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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Sept 5, 2019 11:04:04 GMT -6
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Post by Saint on Sept 5, 2019 11:10:35 GMT -6
Maybe this will help fix him for next year. Next year is when we need him.
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Post by olpapa on Sept 5, 2019 13:46:50 GMT -6
This could help explain why we got 3 guys for Fisher.
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Post by Saint on Sept 5, 2019 14:07:52 GMT -6
This could help explain why we got 3 guys for Fisher. I still think it was a good deal. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Sept 5, 2019 14:09:33 GMT -6
This could help explain why we got 3 guys for Fisher. I still think it was a good deal. I do too...Aaron Sanchez was one of 1,000 names VD mentioned as possible trade target earlier this year...and he was one I thought would make sense for this team, but I thought we would go after him in the OS, because he is more of a project player. |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Sept 5, 2019 14:16:07 GMT -6
Even getting Corch in trade for Fisher would have been a good return on value.
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Post by Saint on Sept 5, 2019 14:23:35 GMT -6
I still think it was a good deal. I do too...Aaron Sanchez was one of 1,000 names VD mentioned as possible trade target earlier this year...and he was one I thought would make sense for this team, but I thought we would go after him in the OS, because he is more of a project player. I always considered Biagini as the centerpiece for the deal since we needed bullpen help, with Sanchez being a semi- throw-in that would be a project. Biagini hasn't been great, but I still think he has plenty of potential once he gets used to things with the analytics department. Hopefully he can channel some of that 2016 postseason magic for us this postseason... |
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Post by olpapa on Sept 5, 2019 14:44:13 GMT -6
This could help explain why we got 3 guys for Fisher. I still think it was a good deal. I think so too. I think a lot of Toronto fans thought it was crazy giving up Biagini, Sanchez and a prospect for Fisher. If the FO of both teams were aware of this potential issue with Sanchez, the 3 for 1 makes a little more sense. |
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Post by Saint on Sept 5, 2019 14:48:34 GMT -6
I still think it was a good deal. I think so too. I think a lot of Toronto fans thought it was crazy giving up Biagini, Sanchez and a prospect for Fisher. If the FO of both teams were aware of this potential issue with Sanchez, the 3 for 1 makes a little more sense. I haven't even looked to see how the prospect was doing. Have you paid any attention to him? |
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Post by blcoach8 on Sept 5, 2019 14:51:04 GMT -6
Even getting Corch in trade for Fisher would have been a good return on value.  as long as you stop trying to dump the best defensive OF on the team, I'm happy. Getting three guys fpr Fisher, who was never going to be in our plans, was a steal for Luhnow. Biagini is an adequate middle reliever amd Sanchez can be a part of our rotation once healthy and spends time working with Strom. If the minor leaguer outfielder has any promise that is another plus for us. We stole three guys for Fisher just like we stole Osuna for Giles last year. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Sept 5, 2019 14:53:10 GMT -6
I do too...Aaron Sanchez was one of 1,000 names VD mentioned as possible trade target earlier this year...and he was one I thought would make sense for this team, but I thought we would go after him in the OS, because he is more of a project player. I always considered Biagini as the centerpiece for the deal since we needed bullpen help, with Sanchez being a semi- throw-in that would be a project. Biagini hasn't been great, but I still think he has plenty of potential once he gets used to things with the analytics department. Hopefully he can channel some of that 2016 postseason magic for us this postseason... Sanchez will end up being a steal for us. They saw something in him they can fix and I want to see how it works out. |
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Post by olpapa on Sept 5, 2019 14:53:12 GMT -6
I think so too. I think a lot of Toronto fans thought it was crazy giving up Biagini, Sanchez and a prospect for Fisher. If the FO of both teams were aware of this potential issue with Sanchez, the 3 for 1 makes a little more sense. I haven't even looked to see how the prospect was doing. Have you paid any attention to him? Last time I checked he was at Advanced A and batting .220ish Just checked again. He ended up batting .247 at Fayetteville, but in his last 10 games batted .303. |
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Post by Saint on Sept 5, 2019 14:54:38 GMT -6
Even getting Corch in trade for Fisher would have been a good return on value. as long as you stop trying to dump the best defensive OF on the team, I'm happy. Getting three guys fpr Fisher, who was never going to be in our plans, was a steal for Luhnow. Biagini is an adequate middle reliever amd Sanchez can be a part of our rotation once healthy and spends time working with Strom. If the minor leaguer outfielder has any promise that is another plus for us. We stole three guys for Fisher just like we stole Osuna for Giles last year. I mostly agree, but I wouldn't rush to saying we won the Giles-Osuna swap. Let's see how Osuna does in the postseason this year first, because, so far, Giles has been better than Osuna in the regular season since that swap. And Osuna was pretty bad in the postseason last year too (limited appearances). |
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Post by blcoach8 on Sept 5, 2019 15:09:16 GMT -6
as long as you stop trying to dump the best defensive OF on the team, I'm happy. Getting three guys fpr Fisher, who was never going to be in our plans, was a steal for Luhnow. Biagini is an adequate middle reliever amd Sanchez can be a part of our rotation once healthy and spends time working with Strom. If the minor leaguer outfielder has any promise that is another plus for us. We stole three guys for Fisher just like we stole Osuna for Giles last year. I mostly agree, but I wouldn't rush to saying we won the Giles-Osuna swap. Let's see how Osuna does in the postseason this year first, because, so far, Giles has been better than Osuna in the regular season since that swap. And Osuna was pretty bad in the postseason last year too (limited appearances). Whatever Osuna does we won the deal because we got rid of a psycho. |
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Post by Saint on Sept 5, 2019 15:27:58 GMT -6
I mostly agree, but I wouldn't rush to saying we won the Giles-Osuna swap. Let's see how Osuna does in the postseason this year first, because, so far, Giles has been better than Osuna in the regular season since that swap. And Osuna was pretty bad in the postseason last year too (limited appearances). Whatever Osuna does we won the deal because we got rid of a psycho. The case could be made that they both have different but not necessarily unrelated issues. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Sept 5, 2019 15:38:01 GMT -6
Whatever Osuna does we won the deal because we got rid of a psycho. The case could be made that they both have different but not necessarily unrelated issues. I will take Osuna's issues over those of Giles and Correa any time. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Sept 5, 2019 15:54:24 GMT -6
The case could be made that they both have different but not necessarily unrelated issues. I will take Osuna's issues over those of Giles and Correa any time. Beating on women? |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Sept 5, 2019 16:21:12 GMT -6
I will take Osuna's issues over those of Giles and Correa any time. Beating on women? Unproven. |
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Post by batman007 on Sept 5, 2019 16:35:25 GMT -6
It's proven that Giles beats on himself.
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Post by unionstation82 on Sept 5, 2019 16:55:38 GMT -6
True but the PR issues are almost the same. |
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Post by olpapa on Sept 5, 2019 17:04:34 GMT -6
First Sanchez. Now this from MLBTR:
“Sept. 5: Guduan has been placed on release waivers, Jake Kaplan of The Athletic tweets. He’ll become a free agent if he goes unclaimed.”
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Post by unionstation82 on Sept 5, 2019 17:09:43 GMT -6
First Sanchez. Now this from MLBTR: “Sept. 5: Guduan has been placed on release waivers, Jake Kaplan of The Athletic tweets. He’ll become a free agent if he goes unclaimed.” I wonder if his goal of stabbing a teammate will come to fruition. |
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Post by olpapa on Sept 5, 2019 17:19:47 GMT -6
First Sanchez. Now this from MLBTR: “Sept. 5: Guduan has been placed on release waivers, Jake Kaplan of The Athletic tweets. He’ll become a free agent if he goes unclaimed.” I wonder if his goal of stabbing a teammate will come to fruition. I hadn’t heard that one. Is that what he was suspended for? |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Sept 5, 2019 17:22:36 GMT -6
I wonder if his goal of stabbing a teammate will come to fruition. I hadn’t heard that one. Is that what he was suspended for? He hit someone in the head with a bat, and got kicked out of the clubhouse. Came back later, and pulled a knife on Dean Deetz. |
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Post by olpapa on Sept 5, 2019 17:44:49 GMT -6
Not so Guduan.
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Sept 5, 2019 17:47:31 GMT -6
Deetz made fun of his not being able to throw a strike. Guduan threw something at Deetz (and missed) so Deetz said "see what I mean?" or something. Guduan hit either Deetz or a coach (heard both from different people) in the head with a bat and got kicked out of the clubhouse. He came back later, with a knife, and stood staring at Deetz while holding the knife in his hand.
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Post by bearbryant on Sept 6, 2019 17:00:34 GMT -6
Maybe this will help fix him for next year. Next year is when we need him. |
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