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Post by blcoach8 on Sept 12, 2019 22:07:07 GMT -6
Altuve has had a great game with one too aggressive mistake. At least he is battling. Most are not. The f'ing idiot kills two innings and you call it a good game.....Hitting that home run doesn't mean he is forgiven for all the other bullshit stunts he has pulled to hurt the team. He was NOT too aggressive....he was just plain stupid and needed to be told just that by Hinch, who I'm sure said nothing to his little dumbass MVP. That shit got old a long time ago.   " src="//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/superangry.png"> |
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Post by blcoach8 on Sept 12, 2019 22:09:37 GMT -6
More bullshit of not using speed. We should have attempted the double steal with Springer at bat. We are wasting the speed we have by waiting for hits that don't come. Brantley needs at least two days off I have never seen him look as bad as he has in this series,.especially tonight. Yup, and what happens right after Springer’s strikeout? Altuve hits a would-be sacrifice fly. There are days when an offense has it and days where they don’t. You’ve got to adjust for those days with the smallball you have available. Refusing to steal with the speed we had on base was asinine. Waiting for a home run often bites us and it did tonight. We have some contact hitters and some speed but we don't take advantage of it. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Sept 12, 2019 22:14:53 GMT -6
Yup, and what happens right after Springer’s strikeout? Altuve hits a would-be sacrifice fly. There are days when an offense has it and days where they don’t. You’ve got to adjust for those days with the smallball you have available. Refusing to steal with the speed we had on base was asinine. Waiting for a home run often bites us and it did tonight. We have some contact hitters and some speed but we don't take advantage of it. The team is running out of excuses. The past two games they maybe had one hit with RISP which resulted in an out at home. I don’t want to hear about a World Series until they fix this long ignored shortcoming. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Sept 12, 2019 22:18:22 GMT -6
Refusing to steal with the speed we had on base was asinine. Waiting for a home run often bites us and it did tonight. We have some contact hitters and some speed but we don't take advantage of it. The team is running out of excuses. The past two games they maybe had one hit with RISP which resulted in an out at home. I don’t want to hear about a World Series until they fix this long ignored shortcoming. We are doing a great job of handing home field advantage to the Yankees which means they will be favored to go to the WS. |
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Post by Saint on Sept 13, 2019 7:27:38 GMT -6
I'm really surprised at people being so negative. It was a tough series. We played without two of our main starters and two of our best relievers. We had chances to win but just didn't execute. We still have a 7.5 game lead with only 14 games to go against all losing teams. This has been a streaky team all season long, so a cold streak now probably isn't a bad thing given the timing.
We've seen this team do this type of thing for multiple years now so it really shouldn't be a surprise. They become a different team in the postseason. We've all seen it. Even last year they played better than they ended up if it wasn't for some fluke plays not going their way in the ALCS. Win the division and be healthy. Get our starting pitchers lined up (no Valdez, no Urquidy, no bullpen garbage) with Verlander, Cole, and Greinke, and have our bullpen set with Pressly and Peacock back. Correa is rehabbing and Yuli is back. We should have our full lineup ready right in time for the ALDS.
As for the amount of hatred being spewed at Altuve, I really don't get that. I'm as hard on him as anybody when he isn't hitting because he has set the bar so high, but the guy has been arguably our best hitter in the 2nd half after getting healthy (and one of the best hitters in the league period since the AS break). He's getting on base, scoring a ton of runs, and being the typical uber pesky type of hitter that opposing teams hate. Yes, he has had some baserunning mistakes this year, but it's because he is trying to force some things to happen when we're struggling. We can't complain about them not doing anything different and just hitting into GIDPs, and then get mad when they try to be aggressive and make something happen.
Altuve is on pace to be, at minimum, a top-3 player for our franchise all-time...and probably even better. He's making a ton of money, but he hustles better than anybody and nobody plays harder except maybe Springer. He doesn't make up excuses, he's always accountable, and you can see that the guy just wants to win. For all the whining we do about players like Carlos Gomez, Altuve is the complete opposite. I'm not saying people shouldn't vent when he f*cks up (we all do that with everybody), but saying he is the one losing games, or needs to be benched (benched, not a day off), or needs to change his whole approach from what has made him a top player, etc. seems off base to me.
Do what you want to do though. I'm sure bortaz will say I'm being a hypocrite somehow.
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Post by Saint on Sept 13, 2019 7:29:16 GMT -6
Guys guys guys, win the division and get/stay healthy. That's the goal. You sound like a guy who would be satisfied just making the playoffs.......Home field advantage is crucial and we are throwing it away with shit like we have seen the last three games of this series. Well, considering we watched them be horrible for years and years, yes, making the playoffs repeatedly is a good thing. But no, I want more than that. I just know that they're good enough to win anywhere if they're healthy. |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Sept 13, 2019 8:14:57 GMT -6
Anyone who seriously complains about Jose Altuve's play (as a whole...benched? Are you serious?) is a mental retard. Period.
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Post by Saint on Sept 13, 2019 8:21:41 GMT -6
Refusing to steal with the speed we had on base was asinine. Waiting for a home run often bites us and it did tonight. We have some contact hitters and some speed but we don't take advantage of it. The team is running out of excuses. The past two games they maybe had one hit with RISP which resulted in an out at home. I don’t want to hear about a World Series until they fix this long ignored shortcoming. What makes you think it's being "ignored"? You think they're going up there not trying to drive runners in? |
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Post by unionstation82 on Sept 13, 2019 8:58:22 GMT -6
The team is running out of excuses. The past two games they maybe had one hit with RISP which resulted in an out at home. I don’t want to hear about a World Series until they fix this long ignored shortcoming. What makes you think it's being "ignored"? You think they're going up there not trying to drive runners in? Of course they’re not avoiding driving in runners, but it’s an issue you rarely hear discussed by the media. If losing 6 of 8 to a probable postseason contender isn’t something to worry about, then I don’t know what is. As far as the injuries, every team deals with them. They don’t need Correa to win games. Gurriel was out, but they had Springer, Altuve, Bregman, and Brantley. That’s good enough to decimate most pitching. They’re flat out underperforming against the A’s. Maybe they got too cocky in that first game. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Sept 13, 2019 8:59:20 GMT -6
Anyone who seriously complains about Jose Altuve's play (as a whole...benched? Are you serious?) is a mental retard. Period. Who wants him benched? |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2019 9:02:40 GMT -6
Anyone who seriously complains about Jose Altuve's play (as a whole...benched? Are you serious?) is a mental retard. Period. Who wants him benched? I really think there is only one person here riding Altuve's ass. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Sept 13, 2019 9:03:07 GMT -6
Yeah, I’m surprised that people want Altuve benched. Who would they rather have in his place, Aledmys Díaz?
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Post by unionstation82 on Sept 13, 2019 9:04:31 GMT -6
I really think there is only one person here riding Altuve's ass. A tough love approach with him wouldn’t nearly have the same effect as a brief one on one between himself and Hinch. |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Sept 13, 2019 9:12:53 GMT -6
Anyone who seriously complains about Jose Altuve's play (as a whole...benched? Are you serious?) is a mental retard. Period. Who wants him benched? Ask Todd...he's the one who said it. Probably you though, Corch Jr. |
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Post by bearbryant on Sept 13, 2019 9:18:27 GMT -6
The team is running out of excuses. The past two games they maybe had one hit with RISP which resulted in an out at home. I don’t want to hear about a World Series until they fix this long ignored shortcoming. We are doing a great job of handing home field advantage to the Yankees which means they will be favored to go to the WS. You're taking this home-field advantage stuff way too far. My experience with major league baseball is once you get to the final four teams in October, the team who wants it the most wins. Regardless of the city where the diamond is located Sparkly, home win-percentages don't necessarily get replicated in the postseason. Just like an elite staff's regular-season ERA doesn't always get replicated in the postseason
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Post by unionstation82 on Sept 13, 2019 9:21:06 GMT -6
Ask Todd...he's the one who said it. Probably you though, Corch Jr. Not me, that’s like saying Díaz is better. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Sept 13, 2019 9:22:53 GMT -6
I get why Altuve does what he does on the basepaths, but it doesn’t take away from the fact that it’s dumb baseball.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2019 9:26:26 GMT -6
I get why Altuve does what he does on the basepaths, but it doesn’t take away from the fact that it’s dumb baseball. No argument, but this was not the norm until this year. So it really doesn't make any sense. I'm wondering if AJ has given him some kind of marching orders to be more agressive on the basepaths, no matter what the consequences. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Sept 13, 2019 9:30:43 GMT -6
I get why Altuve does what he does on the basepaths, but it doesn’t take away from the fact that it’s dumb baseball. No argument, but this was not the norm until this year. So it really doesn't make any sense. I'm wondering if AJ has given him some kind of marching orders to be more agressive on the basepaths, no matter what the consequences. If he wants aggression, why did Stubbs and Straw respectively stay at first and second with no one out in the 9th? Wouldn’t that have been the best time to up the ante? |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2019 9:33:19 GMT -6
No argument, but this was not the norm until this year. So it really doesn't make any sense. I'm wondering if AJ has given him some kind of marching orders to be more agressive on the basepaths, no matter what the consequences. If he wants aggression, why did Stubbs and Straw respectively stay at first and second with no one out in the 9th? Wouldn’t that have been the best time to up the ante? Like I said, maybe these instructions were exclusive for Altuve. Being a savvy vet and such.  |
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Post by Saint on Sept 13, 2019 9:41:38 GMT -6
What makes you think it's being "ignored"? You think they're going up there not trying to drive runners in? Of course they’re not avoiding driving in runners, but it’s an issue you rarely hear discussed by the media. If losing 6 of 8 to a probable postseason contender isn’t something to worry about, then I don’t know what is. As far as the injuries, every team deals with them. They don’t need Correa to win games. Gurriel was out, but they had Springer, Altuve, Bregman, and Brantley. That’s good enough to decimate most pitching. They’re flat out underperforming against the A’s. Maybe they got too cocky in that first game. But the media is dumb. Who cares what the media says or doesn't say. They know they're struggling in those situations. I know we're all down on Correa, but our team is not playing at 100% with him and Yuli (until late last night) not playing. Not even mentioning our weakened bullpen. We're not as good as we would be if we were healthy, so ragging on the team every time they lose, despite missing key players, gets old. Especially when they're still on pace for the most wins in franchise history. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Sept 13, 2019 9:47:17 GMT -6
I'm really surprised at people being so negative. It was a tough series. We played without two of our main starters and two of our best relievers. We had chances to win but just didn't execute. We still have a 7.5 game lead with only 14 games to go against all losing teams. This has been a streaky team all season long, so a cold streak now probably isn't a bad thing given the timing. We've seen this team do this type of thing for multiple years now so it really shouldn't be a surprise. They become a different team in the postseason. We've all seen it. Even last year they played better than they ended up if it wasn't for some fluke plays not going their way in the ALCS. Win the division and be healthy. Get our starting pitchers lined up (no Valdez, no Urquidy, no bullpen garbage) with Verlander, Cole, and Greinke, and have our bullpen set with Pressly and Peacock back. Correa is rehabbing and Yuli is back. We should have our full lineup ready right in time for the ALDS. As for the amount of hatred being spewed at Altuve, I really don't get that. I'm as hard on him as anybody when he isn't hitting because he has set the bar so high, but the guy has been arguably our best hitter in the 2nd half after getting healthy (and one of the best hitters in the league period since the AS break). He's getting on base, scoring a ton of runs, and being the typical uber pesky type of hitter that opposing teams hate. Yes, he has had some baserunning mistakes this year, but it's because he is trying to force some things to happen when we're struggling. We can't complain about them not doing anything different and just hitting into GIDPs, and then get mad when they try to be aggressive and make something happen. Altuve is on pace to be, at minimum, a top-3 player for our franchise all-time...and probably even better. He's making a ton of money, but he hustles better than anybody and nobody plays harder except maybe Springer. He doesn't make up excuses, he's always accountable, and you can see that the guy just wants to win. For all the whining we do about players like Carlos Gomez, Altuve is the complete opposite. I'm not saying people shouldn't vent when he f*cks up (we all do that with everybody), but saying he is the one losing games, or needs to be benched (benched, not a day off), or needs to change his whole approach from what has made him a top player, etc. seems off base to me. Do what you want to do though. I'm sure bortaz will say I'm being a hypocrite somehow. I would not say hypocrite, but,you deinitely have a stragne definition of hatred. Pointing out the stupid things that Altuve does that makes hin a dumbass isn't hatred. It's pointing out the obvious. All the stats you can name won't raise his IQ. The guys is DUMB....plain and simple. I don't hate him......I like him....but, he is stupid. Hinch needs to have a one-on-one with him and explain why these stunts he pulls needs to stop. It should not be advertised through the media, but, it is long overdue. Altuve consistently has bat at bats in crucial situations by lunging at pitches way out of the zone, and, his bonehead decisions on the bases happen with regularity. Last night's asinine stunt may be the dumbest yet.......Wake up and realize that Altuve is dumb in spite of his stats.. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Sept 13, 2019 9:48:50 GMT -6
Of course they’re not avoiding driving in runners, but it’s an issue you rarely hear discussed by the media. If losing 6 of 8 to a probable postseason contender isn’t something to worry about, then I don’t know what is. As far as the injuries, every team deals with them. They don’t need Correa to win games. Gurriel was out, but they had Springer, Altuve, Bregman, and Brantley. That’s good enough to decimate most pitching. They’re flat out underperforming against the A’s. Maybe they got too cocky in that first game. But the media is dumb. Who cares what the media says or doesn't say. They know they're struggling in those situations. I know we're all down on Correa, but our team is not playing at 100% with him and Yuli (until late last night) not playing. Not even mentioning our weakened bullpen. We're not as good as we would be if we were healthy, so ragging on the team every time they lose, despite missing key players, gets old. Especially when they're still on pace for the most wins in franchise history. I just care about 100 wins. The Yankees can have the home field. As far as injuries, yes I miss Pressly. Call me crazy but I think Abreu can be that guy to pair with James to be a great duo in middle relief. They should give Cristian Javier a shot to see what he can do. I think it’s best to just have the top three SP’s go as far as they can and just have the others thrown out there until it’s Pressly time. Osuna has gotten his act together recently so we’re good. I’ve written off McHugh and Peacock - too many injuries in one season. |
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Post by Saint on Sept 13, 2019 9:49:10 GMT -6
I get why Altuve does what he does on the basepaths, but it doesn’t take away from the fact that it’s dumb baseball. They've all been pretty close plays. It they had worked (or most of them, anyways) we'd be praising his baseball IQ instead. I think last night was supposed to be a double steal attempt. As the lead runner trying to take the harder bag, he was trying to get a jump start. He just gambled a little too early. And even with that, if the throw had been offline at all, he probably would have made it. The only baserunning blunder he had that I really hate was him trying to take 3rd with 2 outs already a month or so ago. He's had a couple boneheaded defensive miscues this year as well, but, overall, the guy has still had a very good year despite playing the first couple months at far below 100%. I think his early struggles has really made him press since he came back and he's trying to do too much to compensate and catch up to where he thinks he should be. I can respect that though. He's trying to everything he can to try and help the team. It just hasn't worked out recently. |
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Post by Saint on Sept 13, 2019 9:50:47 GMT -6
I'm really surprised at people being so negative. It was a tough series. We played without two of our main starters and two of our best relievers. We had chances to win but just didn't execute. We still have a 7.5 game lead with only 14 games to go against all losing teams. This has been a streaky team all season long, so a cold streak now probably isn't a bad thing given the timing. We've seen this team do this type of thing for multiple years now so it really shouldn't be a surprise. They become a different team in the postseason. We've all seen it. Even last year they played better than they ended up if it wasn't for some fluke plays not going their way in the ALCS. Win the division and be healthy. Get our starting pitchers lined up (no Valdez, no Urquidy, no bullpen garbage) with Verlander, Cole, and Greinke, and have our bullpen set with Pressly and Peacock back. Correa is rehabbing and Yuli is back. We should have our full lineup ready right in time for the ALDS. As for the amount of hatred being spewed at Altuve, I really don't get that. I'm as hard on him as anybody when he isn't hitting because he has set the bar so high, but the guy has been arguably our best hitter in the 2nd half after getting healthy (and one of the best hitters in the league period since the AS break). He's getting on base, scoring a ton of runs, and being the typical uber pesky type of hitter that opposing teams hate. Yes, he has had some baserunning mistakes this year, but it's because he is trying to force some things to happen when we're struggling. We can't complain about them not doing anything different and just hitting into GIDPs, and then get mad when they try to be aggressive and make something happen. Altuve is on pace to be, at minimum, a top-3 player for our franchise all-time...and probably even better. He's making a ton of money, but he hustles better than anybody and nobody plays harder except maybe Springer. He doesn't make up excuses, he's always accountable, and you can see that the guy just wants to win. For all the whining we do about players like Carlos Gomez, Altuve is the complete opposite. I'm not saying people shouldn't vent when he f*cks up (we all do that with everybody), but saying he is the one losing games, or needs to be benched (benched, not a day off), or needs to change his whole approach from what has made him a top player, etc. seems off base to me. Do what you want to do though. I'm sure bortaz will say I'm being a hypocrite somehow. I would not say hypocrite, but,you deinitely have a stragne definition of hatred. Pointing out the stupid things that Altuve does that makes hin a dumbass isn't hatred. It's pointing out the obvious. All the stats you can name won't raise his IQ. The guys is DUMB....plain and simple. I don't hate him......I like him....but, he is stupid. Hinch needs to have a one-on-one with him and explain why these stunts he pulls needs to stop. It should not be advertised through the media, but, it is long overdue. Altuve consistently has bat at bats in crucial situations by lunging at pitches way out of the zone, and, his bonehead decisions on the bases happen with regularity. Last night's asinine stunt may be the dumbest yet.......Wake up and realize that Altuve is dumb in spite of his stats.. Did I mention one damn "stat" in my post? Give me a break. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Sept 13, 2019 9:54:06 GMT -6
Ask Todd...he's the one who said it. Probably you though, Corch Jr. I haven't seen anyone want him benched, but, those of us who have been paying attention see that Altuve continues to pull stupid stunts to hurt the team.......on the bases and at the plate. Nobody has denied that he has good overall stats and we all know he won the MVP in 2017 but that doesn't stop him from being a dumbass in 2019. I know of at least three losses......including last night..that can be traced directly to Jose's stupidity. It's an act that is past being old and has become ridiculous. I realize you don't like the fact that others are seeing what I have been pointing out for quite awhile........Jose Altuve is a good player who happens to be a dumbass. He should NEVER be allowed to hit 3-0 or be on his own on the bases.He is too stupid to handle it. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Sept 13, 2019 9:55:36 GMT -6
I would not say hypocrite, but,you deinitely have a stragne definition of hatred. Pointing out the stupid things that Altuve does that makes hin a dumbass isn't hatred. It's pointing out the obvious. All the stats you can name won't raise his IQ. The guys is DUMB....plain and simple. I don't hate him......I like him....but, he is stupid. Hinch needs to have a one-on-one with him and explain why these stunts he pulls needs to stop. It should not be advertised through the media, but, it is long overdue. Altuve consistently has bat at bats in crucial situations by lunging at pitches way out of the zone, and, his bonehead decisions on the bases happen with regularity. Last night's asinine stunt may be the dumbest yet.......Wake up and realize that Altuve is dumb in spite of his stats.. Did I mention one damn "stat" in my post? Give me a break. No, but it is such a habit with you that I just assumed you used stats to make your case against Altuve being an idiot. |
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Post by bearbryant on Sept 13, 2019 9:55:37 GMT -6
Altuve's MVP season was the only one I remember not being critical of his baserunning. His RC rate was within a hair of Judge that year cause he got picked off so few times compared to what he usually does
Having him and Cameron Maybin on the roster that year was special
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Post by unionstation82 on Sept 13, 2019 9:58:07 GMT -6
This is essentially why the Astros have offensive lulls:
1. They can’t seem to beat shifts.
2. They play station-to-station ball (unless the best arm in baseball fields it).
3. They rely too much on home runs.
4. They don’t send runners particularly when Brantley is at the plate.
5. They take unnecessary risks on bases (Altuve, Marisnick, Chirinos).
6. They occasionally expand the zone too much with two strikes as if they already made up their mind to swing (Bregman yesterday).
7. They’re a different team with RISP, I don’t know if it’s stress or self-pressure.
They’re much better than the A’s, I don’t care how tough that team is really. Let’s just hope Correa finds himself on his vision quest and returns to glory.
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Post by unionstation82 on Sept 13, 2019 10:00:20 GMT -6
Altuve's MVP season was the only one I remember not being critical of his baserunning. His RC rate was within a hair of Judge that year cause he got picked off so few times compared to what he usually does
Having him and Cameron Maybin on the roster that year was special
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