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Post by Saint on Sept 17, 2019 11:38:58 GMT -6
I don't care about Correa either way, but there's no doubt that having him back makes our team better. You're talking about arguably our best defensive player playing a premium position that also is a career .277/.356/.487 .843 OPS 129 OPS+ hitter. Even with all the missed time, he has averaged 20 HR 74 RBI a season while playing SS. That's impressive alone, and he has done it for a very fair cost. Hinch has announced he will hit 7th in his return. A guy with a .914 OPS will hit 7th in our lineup. That's amazing. If he can get back to even fairly healthy and play 130-140 games, he's of extreme value to the team. And he hasn't done anything to make any of us, logically, think he's a bad guy. He plays hard and appears to be well-liked by the team. He's obviously fragile, but that doesn't mean he doesn't benefit us when he's on the field. And he does very well in the spotlight too. All that being said, I think we should trade him after the season when hopefully he has regained some trade value.  |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Sept 17, 2019 11:42:01 GMT -6
Eventually, the missed time negates the value when he's (rarely, lately) on the field. Being the best defensive player sitting on his sofa doesn't mean much to me.
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Post by Saint on Sept 17, 2019 12:13:58 GMT -6
Eventually, the missed time negates the value when he's (rarely, lately) on the field. Being the best defensive player sitting on his sofa doesn't mean much to me. I agree, but the point is that when he IS on the field, he's overall very very good. Besides, even counting his partial rookie season and nothing else this year, he has averaged 109 games a season. It's not like he's Jed Lowrie or Byron Buxton. (Yet...) Heck, even Bagwell missed about 100 games (or would have if not for the strike) in his 4th and 5th seasons. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Sept 17, 2019 12:22:17 GMT -6
I’m with Tim. I don’t really care whether or not Correa plays. I was done with him when he broke his rib during a massage.
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Post by Saint on Sept 17, 2019 12:25:02 GMT -6
I’m with Tim. I don’t really care whether or not Correa plays. I was done with him when he broke his rib during a massage. So you're saying you're fine with a September call-up playing instead of an all-star shortstop who has been good in the postseason? |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2019 12:25:42 GMT -6
I'll be honest. I'm over Carlos, and don't care if he ever comes back. His production is not consistent enough for the money or the wasted spot in the lineup. I'd rather he stay at home and let Toro remain on the field. He is truly the anti-Springer |
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Post by unionstation82 on Sept 17, 2019 12:28:30 GMT -6
I’m with Tim. I don’t really care whether or not Correa plays. I was done with him when he broke his rib during a massage. So you're saying you're fine with a September call-up playing instead of an all-star shortstop who has been good in the postseason? I’m just saying I don’t care if he plays. If he contributes, I’ll take it. Do I care if he’s in the lineup? Not really. The moral of the story is to temper your expectations with him. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2019 12:31:09 GMT -6
All that being said, I think we should trade him after the season when hopefully he has regained some trade value. Exactly. 3 years ago he was touted the next Arod. Now his value would net a #3 or 4 starter at best. |
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Post by Saint on Sept 17, 2019 12:32:23 GMT -6
So you're saying you're fine with a September call-up playing instead of an all-star shortstop who has been good in the postseason? I’m just saying I don’t care if he plays. If he contributes, I’ll take it. Do I care if he’s in the lineup? Not really. The moral of the story is to temper your expectations with him. No reason to believe he won't contribute at the same level he mostly always has. And we should want that in the postseason. |
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Post by Saint on Sept 17, 2019 12:32:55 GMT -6
All that being said, I think we should trade him after the season when hopefully he has regained some trade value. Exactly. 3 years ago he was touted the next Arod. Now his value would net a #3 or 4 starter at best. I think it would be better than that, but a good postseason showing would improve it. |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Sept 17, 2019 12:37:00 GMT -6
I’m just saying I don’t care if he plays. If he contributes, I’ll take it. Do I care if he’s in the lineup? Not really. The moral of the story is to temper your expectations with him. No reason to believe he won't contribute at the same level he mostly always has. And we should want that in the postseason. Coming back this late in the season, it's liable to take him 4-6 weeks to get his timing etc. back. If it does, and he's worthless in the postseason...then what? He didn't get to play in AAA or AA to get ready this time. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Sept 17, 2019 12:40:52 GMT -6
No reason to believe he won't contribute at the same level he mostly always has. And we should want that in the postseason. Coming back this late in the season, it's liable to take him 4-6 weeks to get his timing etc. back. If it does, and he's worthless in the postseason...then what? He didn't get to play in AAA or AA to get ready this time. And what if he took two Advils instead of one? How long would that sideline him? |
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Post by blcoach8 on Sept 17, 2019 12:48:59 GMT -6
LOL LOL Rushing bim. LOL LOL He's already proven to be fragile.... Do you want him coming back and getting hurt again while we're just playing some scrubs to finish out the year? He is not nearly as fragile as he is just plain gutless. He takes more time to heal than people who have major surgery. I guarantee you he isn't being "rushed". Those "scrubs" you are so concerned about have done his job while he sat on his ass. and not only filled in for him, the team never lost a step or games in the standings while Candy Ass was "rehabbing'.  |
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Post by blcoach8 on Sept 17, 2019 12:53:19 GMT -6
I'll be honest. I'm over Carlos, and don't care if he ever comes back. His production is not consistent enough for the money or the wasted spot in the lineup. I'd rather he stay at home and let Toro remain on the field. Amen. To be honest, i wanted to go to the playoffs and be successful without Candy Ass. I hope we will soon see and hear the last of him and the hoochie mama who leads him around with a ring in his nose. If I hear him say how happy he is to be back to "help his team win", I will want to vomit. His team has done just fine while he sat on his ass and followed hoochie coochie girl's orders. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Sept 17, 2019 13:02:59 GMT -6
I am amazed at how few people can't see through this crap with Correa. His "issues' always arise due to something that didn't happen on the field and are never explained. If an explanation is offered, it is a bold faced lie like how he got his cracked rib. Carlos Correa is a self-centered prima donna who takes orders from the "fiance" he shacks up with. This woman is destroying his career and he's too stupid to realize it. She a young hispanic athlete who didn't know much about the real world and one who will make millions. Being a gold-digger, she used his lack of experience to latch on to a meal ticket who would do what she told him to do.
it will be a good day for the Astros if;....and I mean IF.......Correa is traded because I fear they will be concerned with "offending" hispanic fans if they trade him snd decide to keep him, his issues, and his hoochie mama.
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Sept 17, 2019 13:05:49 GMT -6
Seems like I've read this essay before.
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Post by unionstation82 on Sept 17, 2019 13:08:32 GMT -6
I am amazed at how few people can't see through this crap with Correa. His "issues' always arise due to something that didn't happen on the field and are never explained. If an explanation is offered, it is a bold faced lie like how he got his cracked rib. Carlos Correa is a self-centered prima donna who takes orders from the "fiance" he shacks up with. This woman is destroying his career and he's too stupid to realize it. She a young hispanic athlete who didn't know much about the real world and one who will make millions. Being a gold-digger, she used his lack of experience to latch on to a meal ticket who would do what she told him to do. it will be a good day for the Astros if;....and I mean IF.......Correa is traded because I fear they will be concerned with "offending" hispanic fans if they trade him snd decide to keep him, his issues, and his hoochie mama. Coach, did Daniella run over your dog or something? |
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Post by blcoach8 on Sept 17, 2019 13:17:07 GMT -6
I am amazed at how few people can't see through this crap with Correa. His "issues' always arise due to something that didn't happen on the field and are never explained. If an explanation is offered, it is a bold faced lie like how he got his cracked rib. Carlos Correa is a self-centered prima donna who takes orders from the "fiance" he shacks up with. This woman is destroying his career and he's too stupid to realize it. She a young hispanic athlete who didn't know much about the real world and one who will make millions. Being a gold-digger, she used his lack of experience to latch on to a meal ticket who would do what she told him to do. it will be a good day for the Astros if;....and I mean IF.......Correa is traded because I fear they will be concerned with "offending" hispanic fans if they trade him snd decide to keep him, his issues, and his hoochie mama. Coach, did Daniella run over your dog or something? No. She is destroying a young man's career who could be s superstar if she would get out of his way or support him. |
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Post by bearbryant on Sept 17, 2019 13:17:24 GMT -6
I am amazed at how few people can't see through this crap with Correa. |
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Post by Saint on Sept 17, 2019 13:23:03 GMT -6
No reason to believe he won't contribute at the same level he mostly always has. And we should want that in the postseason. Coming back this late in the season, it's liable to take him 4-6 weeks to get his timing etc. back. If it does, and he's worthless in the postseason...then what? He didn't get to play in AAA or AA to get ready this time. He hit .333 in his rehab starts and he has 11 games until the postseason. That's plenty of time. It's not like he missed multiple months at a time; he played in mid-August. |
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Post by Saint on Sept 17, 2019 13:24:46 GMT -6
I don't care for Correa that much either, but we're fooling ourselves to not believe he makes us a better team when he's on the field. We may have won without him, but we're still better when he's playing. That's just a fact. And we need all the good depth we can get for the postseason.
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Post by sempersmom on Sept 17, 2019 13:29:47 GMT -6
I am amazed at how few people can't see through this crap with Correa. His "issues' always arise due to something that didn't happen on the field and are never explained. If an explanation is offered, it is a bold faced lie like how he got his cracked rib. Carlos Correa is a self-centered prima donna who takes orders from the "fiance" he shacks up with. This woman is destroying his career and he's too stupid to realize it. She a young hispanic athlete who didn't know much about the real world and one who will make millions. Being a gold-digger, she used his lack of experience to latch on to a meal ticket who would do what she told him to do. it will be a good day for the Astros if;....and I mean IF.......Correa is traded because I fear they will be concerned with "offending" hispanic fans if they trade him snd decide to keep him, his issues, and his hoochie mama. Coach, did Daniella run over your dog or something? He just has the hots for her and knows she would never give him a second look. |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Sept 17, 2019 13:30:31 GMT -6
Coming back this late in the season, it's liable to take him 4-6 weeks to get his timing etc. back. If it does, and he's worthless in the postseason...then what? He didn't get to play in AAA or AA to get ready this time. He hit .333 in his rehab starts and he has 11 games until the postseason. That's plenty of time. It's not like he missed multiple months at a time; he played in mid-August. His rehab starts? Wasn't it just 1 game or something? |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Sept 17, 2019 13:31:15 GMT -6
I am amazed at how few people can't see through this crap with Correa. I remember a couple of versions of him. |
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Post by olpapa on Sept 17, 2019 13:38:51 GMT -6
I'm amazed at how few people remember texascolt. Remember that guy? I remember a couple of versions of him. Whatever happened to quackzar from the old board? He was the guy who watched The Jefferson’s a few times and thought that made him an expert on all things black. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Sept 17, 2019 13:39:51 GMT -6
I am amazed at how few people can't see through this crap with Correa. he would be hard to forget. Is that a shot at me? All I have done is state what I think about how Correa has conducted himself and a lot of people get bent out of shape over it. They have a right to disagree......I don't call them names for doing so. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Sept 17, 2019 13:41:32 GMT -6
I remember a couple of versions of him. Whatever happened to quackzar from the old board? He was the guy who watched The Jefferson’s a few times and thought that made him an expert on all things black. I watched a lot of The Jeffersons, Good Times, Sanford and Son, and I don't pretend to know a lot about blacks even though I have lots of friends who are black and I coached a lot of black kids. |
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Post by bearbryant on Sept 17, 2019 13:43:41 GMT -6
I remember a couple of versions of him. Whatever happened to quackzar from the old board? He was the guy who watched The Jefferson’s a few times and thought that made him an expert on all things black. |
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Post by Saint on Sept 17, 2019 13:48:27 GMT -6
He hit .333 in his rehab starts and he has 11 games until the postseason. That's plenty of time. It's not like he missed multiple months at a time; he played in mid-August. His rehab starts? Wasn't it just 1 game or something? My bad, you're right. But he did go 1-2 with 2 BBs in the game.  |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Sept 17, 2019 13:49:13 GMT -6
I remember a couple of versions of him. Whatever happened to quackzar from the old board? He was the guy who watched The Jefferson’s a few times and thought that made him an expert on all things black. Don't know, but glad he left. Couldn't abide him. |
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