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Post by Saint on Oct 8, 2019 7:31:48 GMT -6
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Post by unionstation82 on Oct 8, 2019 7:46:05 GMT -6
I don’t mind it. He’s just posting it to support Twins pitcher Randy Dobnak, the ex-Uber driver that Yankees fans were stupidly making fun of during Game 2.
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Post by Saint on Oct 8, 2019 7:50:26 GMT -6
Crying to support another player is still crying. I remember as a kid (maybe 8 or 9) I went to a baseball camp that Biggio came and spoke to us at. Even back then he told us there are no guarantees and there isn't much money until you prove yourself in the big leagues. He encouraged all of us to finish school first and get a degree.
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Post by unionstation82 on Oct 8, 2019 8:16:37 GMT -6
I don’t know. I think he was just doing it to support the guy. I can see both sides, but I think it was more about talking about the struggle to make it instead of demanding that the MLB should pay more.
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Post by Saint on Oct 8, 2019 8:45:57 GMT -6
I don’t know. I think he was just doing it to support the guy. I can see both sides, but I think it was more about talking about the struggle to make it instead of demanding that the MLB should pay more. Then why would he show how much money MLB made last year? That seems like a call out to me. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Oct 8, 2019 9:29:37 GMT -6
I don’t know. I think he was just doing it to support the guy. I can see both sides, but I think it was more about talking about the struggle to make it instead of demanding that the MLB should pay more. Then why would he show how much money MLB made last year? That seems like a call out to me. Oh, I didn’t catch that part. Yeah, that’s a bit much. The majors is a privilege that doesn’t really give back to society in a significant way like being in the medical field, police, fireman, etc. No one owes you anything. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2019 9:28:32 GMT -6
We had a 1000 post discussion thread on this matter on the old board.
Here is my take.
I agree that this tactic comes off badly as a "cry baby" However, minor league players are taking a gamble anytime they venture into this business. The risk / reward aspect of this venture is without compare. Let me provide an anecdotal example of the risk.
Back in the late '70's I had classes with a guy (sadly forgot his name) who toiled in the Royals farm system topping out at AAA. So here is this guy age 28, basically starting his life over, broke, and missing out on 10 years of earning, pension, etc. He said it was experience he will never forget, and had no hard feelings or regrets. Also said that the day management told he that he had no future in professional baseball was the worst day of his life. So goes the life and dreams of a prospect.
Minor league players provide a service and purpose that MLB can not live without. Considering most MLB owners and players earn more than they would ever practically spend, as I have said for years, MLB should implement a 1%-3% internal surchage of all owner revenues and player salaries to supplement the MiLB salary base, so they at least have a living wage.
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Post by Hunter McCormick on Oct 10, 2019 6:57:40 GMT -6
Minor league players provide a service and purpose that MLB can not live without. Considering most MLB owners and players earn more than they would ever practically spend, as I have said for years, MLB should implement a 1%-3% internal surchage of all owner revenues and player salaries to supplement the MiLB salary base, so they at least have a living wage. I agree. I don't know what it looks like when you run the numbers but for sure there are a whole lot more mL players than there are ML players. That said, the amount of money in the bigs is astronomical.  No one should ever get rich playing minors ball, but the status quo is an embarrassment. Baseball could easily add a little something to mL salaries. First off, I am extremely grateful for where I am in my career & even more grateful to be part of a first clsss organization such as the Giants. They go out of their way when it comes to the a lot of things ..... That's a 'crybaby'? I think not. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2019 7:15:05 GMT -6
First off, I am extremely grateful for where I am in my career & even more grateful to be part of a first clsss organization such as the Giants. They go out of their way when it comes to the a lot of things ..... That's a 'crybaby'? I think not. I think the issue of crybaby is in the context of his approach. Putting your check stub on social media? Not good. In essence, it's not how he said it, but using a public forum to complain about it singlarly gives that perception. Does MiLB have a union? Are there Arbitration processess available? There are more grownup ways to deal with this issue, and I support their plight by the means i mentioned above. BTW Justin,,,,, Any scuttlebutt on who the Tigers will be drafting next year. Hope they pick well. That's how we rebuilt. |
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Post by Hunter McCormick on Oct 10, 2019 7:47:02 GMT -6
I think the issue of crybaby is in the context of his approach. Putting your check stub on social media? Not good. In essence, it's not how he said it, but using a public forum to complain about it singlarly gives that perception. I reckon we should just agree to disagree on that part. What he posted was reality. An ugly reality many people just don't want to see or hear. Nope. They're considered 'seasonal employees'. The bag boy at your grocery store has greater protection under employment laws than a milb player.  BTW Justin,,,,, Any scuttlebutt on who the Tigers will be drafting next year. Hope they pick well. That's how we rebuilt. I haven't heard anything yet but traditionally the Tigers have tended to focus on pitchers. But I think they'll just go with whoever they think is the best overall talent, this time. Regardless, the first-rounder won't be complaining about salary. (Signing bonuses in the early rounds tend to be generous, even if you average them over several years.) Another way to add to the farm is through reclamation projects and dealing them at the deadline. None of year's group panned out. Tyson Ross, Matt Moore, Jordy Mercer, and Josh Harrison all fizzled. I really thought Matt Moore was a good bet to return something at the deadline. But a torn meniscus in his right knee killed his season before it even got started. Out of five projects like that, you hope for at least one and maybe two if you're very lucky. But it didn't happen. All in all, I expect the Tigers to suck harder than a Hoover plugged into a 200 outlet next year and probably the year after. I think most Astros fans are familiar with the cyclic nature of baseball. |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Oct 10, 2019 8:48:54 GMT -6
Nope. They're considered 'seasonal employees'. The bag boy at your grocery store has greater protection under employment laws than a milb player. The bag boy IS a milb player. Dude's gotta eat, you know. |
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Post by Saint on Oct 10, 2019 9:56:00 GMT -6
Again, they know what they're getting into. If you don't like it, go down a different career path.
Posting crap on social media and complaining sure looks like crying to me. Or whining at best.
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Post by Hunter McCormick on Oct 10, 2019 10:18:35 GMT -6
Nope. They're considered 'seasonal employees'. The bag boy at your grocery store has greater protection under employment laws than a milb player. The bag boy IS a milb player. Dude's gotta eat, you know. Sort of. Not all bag boys are milb players but pretty much all milb players are bag boys (or lawn mowers, or bus boys, or dishwashers, etc).
One lovely side effect of starving our minor leaguers is the way some people step up and create minor-league 'families'. Some of the empty nesters provide room and board for several minor leaguers in their homes at rates that are only meant to just cover the cost (or at least partially cover some of the cost).
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