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Post by paastrosfan on Apr 27, 2018 20:09:58 GMT -6
It might be a long winter for Dallas. He is not pitching like a top-of-the-rotation starter anymore, but I’m sure that is the kind of money Boras will be demanding for him. You are right, not going to get the Boras discount on anything. |
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Post by paastrosfan on Apr 27, 2018 20:13:18 GMT -6
It’s hard to watch Keuchel’s starts. Over and over with the junk pitches hoping for a bad swing. If his performance doesn’t improve drastically over the course of this season, I think Dallas is going to be disappointed with the offers he gets in free agency this offseason compared to what he is expecting. Today on High Heat they were mentioning how the Cubs might have got spoofed on signing Darvish over resigning Arieta, and paid the price on a bigger contract. This game is a blow out now. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Apr 27, 2018 20:22:59 GMT -6
Jed Lowrie with a triple? Shouldn’t he be injured or something?
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Post by olpapa on Apr 27, 2018 20:23:00 GMT -6
Keuchel is no better than the #4 pitcher in the Astros rotation. No way will he get top-of-the-rotation money from Houston this offseason.
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Post by unionstation82 on Apr 27, 2018 20:28:09 GMT -6
Keuchel is no better than the #4 pitcher in the Astros rotation. No way will he get top-of-the-rotation money from Houston this offseason. Remember after the ‘15 season when Keuchel was exposed as having the most called strikes in baseball outside the zone? He hasn’t been the same since. |
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Post by olpapa on Apr 27, 2018 20:30:37 GMT -6
Keuchel is no better than the #4 pitcher in the Astros rotation. No way will he get top-of-the-rotation money from Houston this offseason. Remember after the ‘15 season when Keuchel was exposed as having the most called strikes in baseball outside the zone? He hasn’t been the same since. Yes. I do remember. |
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Post by astrosdoug on Apr 27, 2018 20:30:54 GMT -6
I've thought all month long that Keuchel would be the first starter to go on the DL... maybe it happens after this game, and McHugh takes the vacant spot in the rotation.
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Post by unionstation82 on Apr 27, 2018 20:38:06 GMT -6
Keuchel is no better than the #4 pitcher in the Astros rotation. No way will he get top-of-the-rotation money from Houston this offseason. I mean...you could argue he’s 5th best... |
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Post by unionstation82 on Apr 27, 2018 20:39:25 GMT -6
Remember after the ‘15 season when Keuchel was exposed as having the most called strikes in baseball outside the zone? He hasn’t been the same since. Yes. I do remember. It’s a shame he hasn’t shown the ability to adjust to this. Therein lies his real value and why the trade for Cole was partly made. |
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Post by astrosdoug on Apr 27, 2018 20:55:39 GMT -6
At least they put us out of our misery early.What was that, a 2.5 hour game?
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Post by olpapa on Apr 27, 2018 21:30:20 GMT -6
At least they put us out of our misery early.What was that, a 2.5 hour game? Speaking of being put out of our misery, we gonna get kaboomed on the March-April prediction thread. |
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Post by olpapa on Apr 27, 2018 21:34:49 GMT -6
Astros have been beating up on weak teams and getting strummed by the good teams so far. Right now I’m thinking my 14-14 prediction for May could be overly optimistic. Our boys don’t appear to be ready for prime time.
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Post by unionstation82 on Apr 27, 2018 21:45:00 GMT -6
Astros have been beating up on weak teams and getting strummed by the good teams so far. Right now I’m thinking my 14-14 prediction for May could be overly optimistic. Our boys don’t appear to be ready for prime time. It revolves around Altuve. When your best player is struggling to get XBH, your offense is highly impaired. Marwin is looking a little fluky, Gattis is Gattis, and they’re relying on Marisnick. That’s just really bad. On a positive note, so many are producing at mediocre levels that the offense can’t really do any worse. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2018 21:54:18 GMT -6
It might be a long winter for Dallas. He is not pitching like a top-of-the-rotation starter anymore, but I’m sure that is the kind of money Boras will be demanding for him. I mentioned a week or two ago that I am guessing that DK doesn't even make the post season rotation. I thinking this is more and more likely now. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Apr 27, 2018 22:26:45 GMT -6
Keuchel is no better than the #4 pitcher in the Astros rotation. No way will he get top-of-the-rotation money from Houston this offseason. I think he's #5 in this rotation and is not pitching like a guy who expects a big contract at the end of the season. No doubt in my mind that Luhnow traded for Gerrit Cole partly because they have no plans to offer Keuchel what Boras will ask. Having McHugh is also a plus since he is capable of stepping into the rotation later or now if necessary. Dallas sailing along and then completely lost it. The A's hitters concentrated on making contact and not over-swinging. If our hitting continues as it is now, we are in trouble if we expect to win the division. |
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Post by paastrosfan on Apr 27, 2018 23:02:03 GMT -6
The Yanks tied it up, and the vaunted Angels pen is Scioscia's candy store. That will end up being their Achilles heel.
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Post by paastrosfan on Apr 27, 2018 23:06:55 GMT -6
Bye Bye Didi!!!
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Post by paastrosfan on Apr 27, 2018 23:13:14 GMT -6
Angels six pitchers tonight, that pen will be folding by the end of June.
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Post by paastrosfan on Apr 27, 2018 23:23:49 GMT -6
Its a wrap, Yanks win!!!
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Post by astrosdoug on Apr 27, 2018 23:35:39 GMT -6
At least they put us out of our misery early.What was that, a 2.5 hour game? Speaking of being put out of our misery, we gonna get kaboomed on the March-April prediction thread. Yep, it looks like we were overly optimistic. |
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Post by astrosdoug on Apr 27, 2018 23:38:07 GMT -6
Angels six pitchers tonight, that pen will be folding by the end of June. I"m 90% sure of that too... my only concern is they will make trades at the deadline that somehow recharge that bullpen. There will probably be some good arms available in July: Santiago Casilla (A's pitcher in today's game), Kelvin Herrera, Corey Gearrin... so hopefully Anaheim doesn't manage to get any solid extra help this summer. |
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Post by paastrosfan on Apr 28, 2018 0:38:33 GMT -6
Angels six pitchers tonight, that pen will be folding by the end of June. I"m 90% sure of that too... my only concern is they will make trades at the deadline that somehow recharge that bullpen. There will probably be some good arms available in July: Santiago Casilla (A's pitcher in today's game), Kelvin Herrera, Corey Gearrin... so hopefully Anaheim doesn't manage to get any solid extra help this summer. They have had one of the worst farm systems in MLB the last few years, the last time I checked they have improved, but if they are rushing players to the bigs, that is not a formula for success. Depends how desperate they get will they trade what value they have. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Apr 28, 2018 5:51:12 GMT -6
I’m happy that the Angels lost, but that doesn’t lessen the worry about the current conditions of the team.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2018 7:05:53 GMT -6
I’m happy that the Angels lost, but that doesn’t lessen the worry about the current conditions of the team. Yep. Our pen vs. May's schedule does not look promising. |
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Post by marshall on Apr 28, 2018 7:16:53 GMT -6
I suspect Dallas won't be signing early in the FA season.
At this point, he might be the seventh best starter after Verlander, Cole, Morton, McCullers, McHugh and Peacock. But everyone struggles at times. I hope this is a brief bump in the road and not the beginning of a steep decline.
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Post by bearbryant on Apr 28, 2018 7:45:16 GMT -6
It’s hard to watch Keuchel’s starts. Over and over with the junk pitches hoping for a bad swing. LMAO, it's hilarious how the forum has turned against Dallas since it started being rumored that this might be his last season with Houston. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Apr 28, 2018 8:33:26 GMT -6
Acknowledging that I didn't watch the game last night, I think there's something else at play here. With Fiers gone naturally there's someone else who'd become the rotation punching bag with some. Keuchel won a CY in 2015 of course, but outside of that season his career hasn't been elite compared to Fiers by any stretch. They're both finesse pitchers that rely on bad swings, and they totally exhaust the defense trying to field behind him I don’t think the hate for Keuchel is THAT strong. Fiers was on a whole other level of suck. |
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Post by paastrosfan on Apr 28, 2018 9:36:03 GMT -6
LMAO, it's hilarious how the forum has turned against Dallas since it started being rumored that this might be his last season with Houston. The league adjusted to Dallas, they are not chasing the pitches on the edges, plus he does not have the pin point control of years past. Which leads the hitter will wait him out and is pounding his mistakes. |
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Post by paastrosfan on Apr 28, 2018 9:37:30 GMT -6
We will see what the Stros are made of after getting their butt put in a sling by the A's.
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Post by bearbryant on Apr 28, 2018 10:35:21 GMT -6
Acknowledging that I didn't watch the game last night, I think there's something else at play here. With Fiers gone naturally there's someone else who'd become the rotation punching bag with some. Keuchel won a CY in 2015 of course, but outside of that season his career hasn't been elite compared to Fiers by any stretch. They're both finesse pitchers that rely on bad swings, and they totally exhaust the defense trying to field behind him I don’t think the hate for Keuchel is THAT strong. Fiers was on a whole other level of suck. |
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