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Post by Saint on Oct 15, 2019 19:18:05 GMT -6
Greinke vs. Tanaka
If I was betting money I'd say this game goes to the Yankees. But, we have some good momentum right now so who knows!
Stay hot, Jose!
P.S. If not rained out...
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Post by thomasj13 on Oct 15, 2019 19:33:07 GMT -6
Bullpen vs. Bullpen If I was betting money I'd say this game goes to the Yankees. But, we have some good momentum right now so who knows! Stay hot, Jose! P.S. If not rained out... Need to send Crash Davis to Yankee stadium tonight |
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Post by Saint on Oct 16, 2019 7:51:48 GMT -6
Bullpen vs. Bullpen If I was betting money I'd say this game goes to the Yankees. But, we have some good momentum right now so who knows! Stay hot, Jose! P.S. If not rained out... Need to send Crash Davis to Yankee stadium tonight I really think we need to win one more in NYC to have a chance. This isn't 2017 and I don't think we can count on both JV and Cole to shut them down completely in MMP again. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Oct 16, 2019 8:02:37 GMT -6
Need to send Crash Davis to Yankee stadium tonight I really think we need to win one more in NYC to have a chance. This isn't 2017 and I don't think we can count on both JV and Cole to shut them down completely in MMP again. They need to do what they couldn’t in 2017 and that’s take a 3-1 lead at Yankee Stadium. |
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Post by Saint on Oct 16, 2019 8:06:27 GMT -6
What's also amazing:
The Astros are only 1-19 with RISP in the series but still up 2-1. At some point that will balance out (hopefully soon), and they'll look dominant again.
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Post by Saint on Oct 16, 2019 8:14:45 GMT -6
Despite the .091 AVG, Yuli is actually leading our team in average exit velocity. He's hitting the ball harder than anybody. That with the low average goes to reflect the bad luck he has had.
That being said, we have nobody in the top-10 in the postseason in average exit velocity. The Yankees have three.
Second best on our team is little Jose Altuve. Springer and Bregman need to get it going. (Although at least Bregman is getting on base well. He has a ridiculous .538 OBP this series.)
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Post by olpapa on Oct 16, 2019 8:35:23 GMT -6
I just found this online:
Thursday (Game 4 or Game 5) - Scheduled start time 7:08 PM Central
“Rain moves out of the area Thursday but it is replaced by strong winds and temperatures in the mid 50s on the back side of the storm system. On Thursday the wind could gust up to 40 MPH at times, however by game time that should hopefully die down a bit. By early evening winds should be coming out of the west at about 20 MPH with occasional gusts up to 30 MPH. Winds like this would be impactful no matter what, but what makes this situation particularly interesting is the orientation of Yankee Stadium. The field is in a west to east orientation, meaning that the wind will be blowing straight out to center field. Obviously this favors home run potential which can cut both ways with both teams being more than capable of bashing the long ball. All those balls that died on the warning track yesterday would be several rows deep on Thursday. Pitching will be critically important on this day.”
Looks like we could see a lot of balls leaving the yard on Thursday. The weather conditions will likely impact AJ’s choices of pitchers to use in the game, be it game 4 or game 5. Wouldn’t seem like a day where you would want a flyball pitcher on the mound. I could see Harris closing, rather than Osuna.
If Thursday is game 4, would you want to start Greinke or go with the bullpen day? Yankee Stadium has not been kind to him in his career. His career ERA in old Yankee Stadium was 8.82 in 4 games pitched. His ERA at the current Yankee Stadium is 11.57 in 2 games....9 earned runs in 7 innings pitched. Doesn’t seem like the ideal time for Greinke to make a start there, if the wind is going to be blowing out to CF at 20+ mph.
Thursday might be the best day for a bullpen day for us. Would you start Urquidy? He (0.64), James (0.56), Peacock (0.92) and Osuna (0.75) had GO/AO ratios of less than one GO for every AO induced during the regular season. Abreu (2.00), Pressly (1.70), Harris (1.58), Rondon (1.19) and Smith (1.17) all had GO to AO ratios of over 1.00.
Of course if a guy is striking out a lot of batters per inning, a low GO/AO ratio might not be as big a deal. That would work in favor of James who struck out 14.67 batters per 9 IP during the regular season. Abreu, in limited duty, struck out batters at a rate of 13.50 per 9 IP AND had a 2.00 GO/AO ratio...., but he is young and inexperienced and didn’t respond so well to the pressure in game #1. Then there’s Pressly who struck out 11.93 batters per 9 IP during the regular season and had a 1.70 GO/AO ratio, but he hasn’t looked good lately and is coming off a surgery.
A lot to think about.
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Post by Saint on Oct 16, 2019 9:32:09 GMT -6
I'd be interested to see them start with James (who has started before, obviously) for a couple innings. Then move to Urquidy and Peacock. What the score is later in the game would depend on use at that point.
To me, if we have a lead late, we should't hesitate to go for the jugular and do whatever it takes to clinch that 3rd win, even if that means hurting our chances for Game 5. Going back to MMP with JV and Cole rested and only needing one win is paramount.
I also hope they stay aggressive with the small ball. They've had great success with it so far. My opinion is that they should be working with some of these pull happy guys on putting some bunts down to against the shift. I doubt they will, but I still think it's a good idea. Even though we haven't been hitting with RISP, is still puts pressure on the defense and their pitchers to have runners on base (just look at our final two runs yesterday).
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Post by blcoach8 on Oct 16, 2019 9:36:21 GMT -6
Need to send Crash Davis to Yankee stadium tonight I really think we need to win one more in NYC to have a chance. This isn't 2017 and I don't think we can count on both JV and Cole to shut them down completely in MMP again. And Pollyanna who was glad all season now becomes a post-season pessimist......It would be nice to win one more in NY but I would be very comfortable going back home for games 6 and 7 with Verlander and Cole ready. There is more pressure on the Yankees right now. I just hope if we get a rain out that Hinch doesn't go with Verlander in a game 5 in NY. Don't take a chance on losing his game in NY and then having to win two in Houston with only Cole ready. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Oct 16, 2019 9:39:17 GMT -6
Despite the .091 AVG, Yuli is actually leading our team in average exit velocity. He's hitting the ball harder than anybody. That with the low average goes to reflect the bad luck he has had. That being said, we have nobody in the top-10 in the postseason in average exit velocity. The Yankees have three. Second best on our team is little Jose Altuve. Springer and Bregman need to get it going. (Although at least Bregman is getting on base well. He has a ridiculous .538 OBP this series.) It is obvious they don't plan to give Bregman anything to pull. They had rather walk him and deal with Yordan and Yuli. |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Oct 16, 2019 9:41:10 GMT -6
So, are we rooting for a rainout so we don't have to do a bullpen day?
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Post by unionstation82 on Oct 16, 2019 9:57:58 GMT -6
So, are we rooting for a rainout so we don't have to do a bullpen day? You've got your wish. The game is postponed. |
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Post by Saint on Oct 16, 2019 9:59:09 GMT -6
I really think we need to win one more in NYC to have a chance. This isn't 2017 and I don't think we can count on both JV and Cole to shut them down completely in MMP again. And Pollyanna who was glad all season now becomes a post-season pessimist......It would be nice to win one more in NY but I would be very comfortable going back home for games 6 and 7 with Verlander and Cole ready. There is more pressure on the Yankees right now. I just hope if we get a rain out that Hinch doesn't go with Verlander in a game 5 in NY. Don't take a chance on losing his game in NY and then having to win two in Houston with only Cole ready. Do you not understand the difference between the regular season and the postseason? THEY'RE. NOT. THE. SAME. THE. BEST. TEAM. DOESN'T. ALWAYS. WIN. IN. THE. POSTSEASON. |
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Post by Saint on Oct 16, 2019 10:00:32 GMT -6
Bah, this is better for them than us. They're using their bullpen a lot more and this gives them extra rest while at home.
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Post by unionstation82 on Oct 16, 2019 10:03:04 GMT -6
Bah, this is better for them than us. They're using their bullpen a lot more and this gives them extra rest while at home. At least we avoid a bullpen day and likely go to Greinke. |
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Post by Saint on Oct 16, 2019 10:05:30 GMT -6
Bah, this is better for them than us. They're using their bullpen a lot more and this gives them extra rest while at home. At least we avoid a bullpen day and likely go to Greinke. Do we avoid it or postpone it? |
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Post by Saint on Oct 16, 2019 10:06:55 GMT -6
This also gives Stanton an extra day of rest.
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Post by sempersmom on Oct 16, 2019 10:14:26 GMT -6
The game on Friday is scheduled for 6:08 CT. As usual, they put the TV time before the players. This sucks.
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Oct 16, 2019 10:43:16 GMT -6
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Oct 16, 2019 10:45:12 GMT -6
Wonder why they're waiting until Friday instead of playing tomorrow?
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Oct 16, 2019 11:07:29 GMT -6
Hmm, this is conflicting with what the Astros posted on Facebook.  |
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Post by bannedfan on Oct 16, 2019 11:12:20 GMT -6
Game 4 is tomorrow night according to MLB.com
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2019 11:14:55 GMT -6
Bah, this is better for them than us. They're using their bullpen a lot more and this gives them extra rest while at home. At least we avoid a bullpen day and likely go to Greinke. I prefer Greinke vs Uriquidity and the seven dwarves. |
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Post by olpapa on Oct 16, 2019 11:33:12 GMT -6
At least we avoid a bullpen day and likely go to Greinke. Do we avoid it or postpone it? Avoid it if we win games 4 & 5 or if we win one or neither of those and come back with Cole Saturday on short test. Otherwise postpone it, right? |
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Post by marshall on Oct 16, 2019 11:54:47 GMT -6
Unless we win the next two games, we only postpone the bullpen day to Game Six.
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Post by Saint on Oct 16, 2019 12:17:57 GMT -6
ɮօʀȶǟʐCan you update the date and add edit Bullpen vs. Bullpen to Greinke vs. Tanaka, por favor?
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Post by blcoach8 on Oct 16, 2019 12:33:32 GMT -6
And Pollyanna who was glad all season now becomes a post-season pessimist......It would be nice to win one more in NY but I would be very comfortable going back home for games 6 and 7 with Verlander and Cole ready. There is more pressure on the Yankees right now. I just hope if we get a rain out that Hinch doesn't go with Verlander in a game 5 in NY. Don't take a chance on losing his game in NY and then having to win two in Houston with only Cole ready. Do you not understand the difference between the regular season and the postseason? THEY'RE. NOT. THE. SAME. THE. BEST. TEAM. DOESN'T. ALWAYS. WIN. IN. THE. POSTSEASON. ATTENTION: I understand perfectly the difference between the regular season and the post season. I also recall that you didn't seem to think home field advantage was that important. That proves you don't know the value of home field in the post season. I think Hinch is dead wrong to start Verlander in NY in game 5 with the cold weather predicted with wind blowing out. If we lose game 4 and 5,k we have wasted Verlander and have to go home needing two wins with only Cole left to start. He would bave to go in game 6 hoping we get to game 7. Then, what do we do?? Better to go with bullpen in game 4 against Tanaka and then send Greinke out in game 5 against Paxton. Then, if necessary, we go home needing two wins with Verlander nd Cole. The Yankees have blown Tanaka and probably Paxton. That leaves them with Severino and question marks against Verlander and Cole. I like the odds of winning two in Houston better than taking one more in NY. If we go home down 3-2 after losing game 5 with Verlander pitching, we probably lose the series and Hinch looks like an idiot for wasting Verlander. |
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Post by Saint on Oct 16, 2019 12:36:59 GMT -6
Do you not understand the difference between the regular season and the postseason? THEY'RE. NOT. THE. SAME. THE. BEST. TEAM. DOESN'T. ALWAYS. WIN. IN. THE. POSTSEASON. ATTENTION: I understand perfectly the difference between the regular season and the post season. I also recall that you didn't seem to think home field advantage was that important. That proves you don't know the value of home field in the post season. I think Hinch is dead wrong to start Verlander in NY in game 5 with the cold weather predicted with wind blowing out. If we lose game 4 and 5,k we have wasted Verlander and have to go home needing two wins with only Cole left to start. He would bave to go in game 6 hoping we get to game 7. Then, what do we do?? Better to go with bullpen in game 4 against Tanaka and then send Greinke out in game 5 against Paxton. Then, if necessary, we go home needing two wins with Verlander nd Cole. The Yankees have blown Tanaka and probably Paxton. That leaves them with Severino and question marks against Verlander and Cole. I like the odds of winning two in Houston better than taking one more in NY. If we go home down 3-2 after losing game 5 with Verlander pitching, we probably lose the series and Hinch looks like an idiot for wasting Verlander. I never said homefield wasn't preferred, I just don't think it's necessary. If this series was the other way around, I still think we would have done about the same thing. But my point is about the way we are currently playing compared to during the regular season. We're not playing as well as we did during the regular season. We're not hitting. If we were hitting the way we were during the regular season, I wouldn't be concerned. Do you see the difference? |
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Post by blcoach8 on Oct 16, 2019 12:39:57 GMT -6
ATTENTION: I understand perfectly the difference between the regular season and the post season. I also recall that you didn't seem to think home field advantage was that important. That proves you don't know the value of home field in the post season. I think Hinch is dead wrong to start Verlander in NY in game 5 with the cold weather predicted with wind blowing out. If we lose game 4 and 5,k we have wasted Verlander and have to go home needing two wins with only Cole left to start. He would bave to go in game 6 hoping we get to game 7. Then, what do we do?? Better to go with bullpen in game 4 against Tanaka and then send Greinke out in game 5 against Paxton. Then, if necessary, we go home needing two wins with Verlander nd Cole. The Yankees have blown Tanaka and probably Paxton. That leaves them with Severino and question marks against Verlander and Cole. I like the odds of winning two in Houston better than taking one more in NY. If we go home down 3-2 after losing game 5 with Verlander pitching, we probably lose the series and Hinch looks like an idiot for wasting Verlander. I never said homefield wasn't preferred, I just don't think it's necessary. If this series was the other way around, I still think we would have done about the same thing. But my point is about the way we are currently playing compared to during the regular season. We're not playing as well as we did during the regular season. We're not hitting. If we were hitting the way we were during the regular season, I wouldn't be concerned. Do you see the difference? I knew the difference before your speal............Do you agree with pitching Verlander in game 5? I think it's a bad move unless we win game 4 |
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Post by thomasj13 on Oct 16, 2019 12:40:48 GMT -6
Do you not understand the difference between the regular season and the postseason? THEY'RE. NOT. THE. SAME. THE. BEST. TEAM. DOESN'T. ALWAYS. WIN. IN. THE. POSTSEASON. ATTENTION: I understand perfectly the difference between the regular season and the post season. I also recall that you didn't seem to think home field advantage was that important. That proves you don't know the value of home field in the post season. I think Hinch is dead wrong to start Verlander in NY in game 5 with the cold weather predicted with wind blowing out. If we lose game 4 and 5,k we have wasted Verlander and have to go home needing two wins with only Cole left to start. He would bave to go in game 6 hoping we get to game 7. Then, what do we do?? Better to go with bullpen in game 4 against Tanaka and then send Greinke out in game 5 against Paxton. Then, if necessary, we go home needing two wins with Verlander nd Cole. The Yankees have blown Tanaka and probably Paxton. That leaves them with Severino and question marks against Verlander and Cole. I like the odds of winning two in Houston better than taking one more in NY. If we go home down 3-2 after losing game 5 with Verlander pitching, we probably lose the series and Hinch looks like an idiot for wasting Verlander. I would think Verlander still pitches Game 6, because the day didn't change for it, still Saturday....so he gets his normal rest.... The only change will be Game 4 and Game 5 starters, they are swapping....which I think favors the Astros....puts our better pitcher moved up one... hopefully Greinke comes through, he is due...and for his sake, I hope Stanton is not playing... |
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