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Post by m240 on Feb 14, 2020 11:27:55 GMT -6
I still believe that we need to make some moves and get some of the lite off us. Not saying a complete rebuild just saying enough to get the players to shut the F up. Yuli, Correa and Reddick first then deadline Springer, Brantley and a couple relivers. Wait till the offseason Grienke then deadline Verlander. Get all the young and up comming top flight Prospects we can. And stay out of the lite. Js this will never go away until we get clear and we would get ahead of this crap that might still be comming down. You do realize that nothing short of relinquishing our trophy and banners will get the heat off this team. No that is the fallacy of current events/society. When you apologize and completely become a floor mat then they say well you deserve it. No I think the best place to be right now is to say, Look the cheaters are all gone, no one here had anything to do with starting or perpetuating the cheating. The crap you morons are spilling about the buzzers is the tripe that buffoons consume. We have a get out of jail card printed up by the commissioner that says if we disclose all of our records and admit to all transgressions then the punishment that we receive has already been dealt. It would take people who are monumentally stupid to hold something back that could hurt us so when we were clearing the decks why would we hide the buzzers. Quit being stupid and move on. |
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Post by bearbryant on Feb 14, 2020 11:32:55 GMT -6
You do realize that nothing short of relinquishing our trophy and banners will get the heat off this team. No that is the fallacy of current events/society. When you apologize and completely become a floor mat then they say well you deserve it. No I think the best place to be right now is to say, Look the cheaters are all gone, no one here had anything to do with starting or perpetuating the cheating. The crap you morons are spilling about the buzzers is the tripe that buffoons consume. We have a get out of jail card printed up by the commissioner that says if we disclose all of our records and admit to all transgressions then the punishment that we receive has already been dealt. It would take people who are monumentally stupid to hold something back that could hurt us so when we were clearing the decks why would we hide the buzzers. Quit being stupid and move on. |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Feb 14, 2020 11:44:54 GMT -6
Why are you guys still talking about giving up the title, despite the fact that it has already been explicitly ruled out by the commissioner and our punishment has already been handed down?
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Post by thomasj13 on Feb 14, 2020 12:02:07 GMT -6
Why are you guys still talking about giving up the title, despite the fact that it has already been explicitly ruled out by the commissioner and our punishment has already been handed down? I think most, myself included, are hating the * being placed around the title.....Like most here, we have no doubt that other teams were cheating....and we knew the Astros were going to be made the example... But we all waited a longtime for the Astros to win a WS....especially what it meant for the City of Houston, coming off Harvey.....It was just too perfect, book/movie worthy Plainly spoken: It sucks, feels like everyday you're being kicked in the nuts..... |
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Post by unionstation82 on Feb 14, 2020 12:04:53 GMT -6
Here is an off-the-wall question...Say MLB actually took the title away from the Astros, and gave it to the Dodgers....what would that mean for gambling bets on the game? Manfred would literally be killed. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Feb 14, 2020 12:06:20 GMT -6
Why are you guys still talking about giving up the title, despite the fact that it has already been explicitly ruled out by the commissioner and our punishment has already been handed down? Because the pundits on ESPN and YES Network keep demanding it. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Feb 14, 2020 12:15:41 GMT -6
Why are you guys still talking about giving up the title, despite the fact that it has already been explicitly ruled out by the commissioner and our punishment has already been handed down? Because the pundits on ESPN and YES Network keep demanding it. You can't get away from it... |
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Post by blcoach8 on Feb 14, 2020 12:17:31 GMT -6
Because the pundits on ESPN and YES Network keep demanding it. You can't get away from it... Screw the media.....especially ESPN and MLB network. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Feb 14, 2020 12:18:25 GMT -6
Why are you guys still talking about giving up the title, despite the fact that it has already been explicitly ruled out by the commissioner and our punishment has already been handed down? Because the pundits on ESPN and YES Network keep demanding it. It is too bad MLB will not do thorough investigations into other teams....We can only hope other teams will have their own Mike Fiers situation.... |
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Post by Saint on Feb 14, 2020 12:49:51 GMT -6
Because the pundits on ESPN and YES Network keep demanding it. It is too bad MLB will not do thorough investigations into other teams....We can only hope other teams will have their own Mike Fiers situation.... I'm REALLY hoping that Beltran opens up after the last article and takes some others down with him. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Feb 14, 2020 13:10:54 GMT -6
You can't get away from it... Screw the media.....especially ESPN and MLB network. Easier said than done... |
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Post by unionstation82 on Feb 14, 2020 13:11:38 GMT -6
It is too bad MLB will not do thorough investigations into other teams....We can only hope other teams will have their own Mike Fiers situation.... I'm REALLY hoping that Beltran opens up after the last article and takes some others down with him. He likely won’t unless he’s that serious about getting a job in the MLB again. |
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Post by paastrosfan on Feb 14, 2020 13:12:04 GMT -6
It is too bad MLB will not do thorough investigations into other teams....We can only hope other teams will have their own Mike Fiers situation.... I'm REALLY hoping that Beltran opens up after the last article and takes some others down with him. Well it looks like the theory of Beltran being a master of finding flaws in a pitchers motion of picking up tips was a smoke screen. |
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Post by Saint on Feb 14, 2020 13:13:03 GMT -6
I'm REALLY hoping that Beltran opens up after the last article and takes some others down with him. He likely won’t unless he’s that serious about getting a job in the MLB again. You're probably right. Although he might feel like he can hide in the mud if he throws it around everywhere. |
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Post by nathangarza29 on Feb 14, 2020 13:17:39 GMT -6
There not taking the title.
Im saying if we move some people off the team maybe this bull shizz will stop. Look at the article on MLB traderymors about Brad Peacock. Jesus no remorse at all its attack attack attack.
Whats the best way yo shut them all up?
Move some guys and do what we originally did with the talent we got and win again.
Im not saying trade Altuve Tucker Whitley McCullers Bregman or Yordan.
Im saying clear the meat off the potato get the lite off us for alittle while and build a team around those names above.
Feel in the blanks.
Its that simple.
There is no reason to try and push for big dreams we are under a micro scope and will always be that way till something else happens. Its the American way. Or shall I say the Democratic way. Hyperfocus on one thing no matter what it is make it the biggest deal and talk about it for years until you do something about it.
What do we do?
Move some contracts and players and rebuild the talent accross the board and go back to the series.
This team is tainted. We dont need that hovering around all year.
Crane needs to step up and show them what he can do. CLICK should be all over this.
If they dont every single game press confrence fart dinner anything will be questioned
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Post by Saint on Feb 14, 2020 13:21:08 GMT -6
There not taking the title. Im saying if we move some people off the team maybe this bull shizz will stop. Look at the article on MLB traderymors about Brad Peacock. Jesus no remorse at all its attack attack attack. Whats the best way yo shut them all up? Move some guys and do what we originally did with the talent we got and win again. Im not saying trade Altuve Tucker Whitley McCullers Bregman or Yordan. Im saying clear the meat off the potato get the lite off us for alittle while and build a team around those names above. Feel in the blanks. Its that simple. There is no reason to try and push for big dreams we are under a micro scope and will always be that way till something else happens. Its the American way. Or shall I say the Democratic way. Hyperfocus on one thing no matter what it is make it the biggest deal and talk about it for years until you do something about it. What do we do? Move some contracts and players and rebuild the talent accross the board and go back to the series. This team is tainted. We dont need that hovering around all year. Crane needs to step up and show them what he can do. CLICK should be all over this. If they dont every single game press confrence fart dinner anything will be questioned Trading a handful of players isn't going to reduce the amount of negative attention right now. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Feb 14, 2020 13:26:05 GMT -6
There not taking the title. Im saying if we move some people off the team maybe this bull shizz will stop. Look at the article on MLB traderymors about Brad Peacock. Jesus no remorse at all its attack attack attack. Whats the best way yo shut them all up? Move some guys and do what we originally did with the talent we got and win again. Im not saying trade Altuve Tucker Whitley McCullers Bregman or Yordan. Im saying clear the meat off the potato get the lite off us for alittle while and build a team around those names above. Feel in the blanks. Its that simple. There is no reason to try and push for big dreams we are under a micro scope and will always be that way till something else happens. Its the American way. Or shall I say the Democratic way. Hyperfocus on one thing no matter what it is make it the biggest deal and talk about it for years until you do something about it. What do we do? Move some contracts and players and rebuild the talent accross the board and go back to the series. This team is tainted. We dont need that hovering around all year. Crane needs to step up and show them what he can do. CLICK should be all over this. If they dont every single game press confrence fart dinner anything will be questioned Trading a handful of players isn't going to reduce the amount of negative attention right now. True....the only thing that could possibly help, even more than winning, for other teams to be found guilty....and their fans + media that get a dose of reality....Crossing Fingers it happens to the Yankees, Red Sox, Dodgers, Nationals, Cubs.....and then some lowly team as well, the Orioles....so we all can get a good laugh. |
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Post by nathangarza29 on Feb 14, 2020 13:29:02 GMT -6
There not taking the title. Im saying if we move some people off the team maybe this bull shizz will stop. Look at the article on MLB traderymors about Brad Peacock. Jesus no remorse at all its attack attack attack. Whats the best way yo shut them all up? Move some guys and do what we originally did with the talent we got and win again. Im not saying trade Altuve Tucker Whitley McCullers Bregman or Yordan. Im saying clear the meat off the potato get the lite off us for alittle while and build a team around those names above. Feel in the blanks. Its that simple. There is no reason to try and push for big dreams we are under a micro scope and will always be that way till something else happens. Its the American way. Or shall I say the Democratic way. Hyperfocus on one thing no matter what it is make it the biggest deal and talk about it for years until you do something about it. What do we do? Move some contracts and players and rebuild the talent accross the board and go back to the series. This team is tainted. We dont need that hovering around all year. Crane needs to step up and show them what he can do. CLICK should be all over this. If they dont every single game press confrence fart dinner anything will be questioned Trading a handful of players isn't going to reduce the amount of negative attention right now. No but it could be a start |
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Post by paastrosfan on Feb 14, 2020 13:30:49 GMT -6
Trading a handful of players isn't going to reduce the amount of negative attention right now. True....the only thing that could possibly help, even more than winning, for other teams to be found guilty....and their fans + media that get a dose of reality....Crossing Fingers it happens to the Yankees, Red Sox, Dodgers, Nationals, Cubs.....and then some lowly team as well, the Orioles....so we all can get a good laugh. Just after watching the clip on the MLB Network of the Dodgers, they gave a good trashing the Stros, they better hope no allegations are leveled at them. |
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Post by nathangarza29 on Feb 14, 2020 14:03:52 GMT -6
True....the only thing that could possibly help, even more than winning, for other teams to be found guilty....and their fans + media that get a dose of reality....Crossing Fingers it happens to the Yankees, Red Sox, Dodgers, Nationals, Cubs.....and then some lowly team as well, the Orioles....so we all can get a good laugh. Just after watching the clip on the MLB Network of the Dodgers, they gave a good trashing the Stros, they better hope no allegations are leveled at them. Im still waiting on the Red Sox Fall out. Where the H is that at? What about the Yankees? Im sure there was something going on there how many seasons did they have winning seasons? Beltran we are behimd the times but we are the only ones getting hit. Thats where the BS is. So this is why I believe we trade some guys rebuild some trade some more rebuild more. And win it all again. Nick Senzel and Clint Frazier added to Kyle Tucker would be a great young core that could flurish. Frazier in LF. Js |
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Post by abregmanfan on Feb 14, 2020 14:04:30 GMT -6
True....the only thing that could possibly help, even more than winning, for other teams to be found guilty....and their fans + media that get a dose of reality....Crossing Fingers it happens to the Yankees, Red Sox, Dodgers, Nationals, Cubs.....and then some lowly team as well, the Orioles....so we all can get a good laugh. Just after watching the clip on the MLB Network of the Dodgers, they gave a good trashing the Stros, they better hope no allegations are leveled at them. Piss on the Dodgers. |
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Post by Saint on Feb 14, 2020 14:10:50 GMT -6
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Post by blcoach8 on Feb 14, 2020 14:24:13 GMT -6
At least our players weren't arrested for jerking off in a parking lot in Florida. I had forgotten that,.,.,.,.Who was the guilty party? |
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Post by paastrosfan on Feb 14, 2020 14:34:00 GMT -6
Just after watching the clip on the MLB Network of the Dodgers, they gave a good trashing the Stros, they better hope no allegations are leveled at them. Im still waiting on the Red Sox Fall out. Where the H is that at? What about the Yankees? Im sure there was something going on there how many seasons did they have winning seasons? Beltran we are behimd the times but we are the only ones getting hit. Thats where the BS is. So this is why I believe we trade some guys rebuild some trade some more rebuild more. And win it all again. Nick Senzel and Clint Frazier added to Kyle Tucker would be a great young core that could flurish. Frazier in LF. Js After Beltran retired he worked a year in the Yankees organization. The Yes Network has total control of their broadcasts with camera's all over the stadium. There can be a lot of questions to draw conclusions against their organization. Just like Smoltz mentioned this most likely happened with other teams, and now they are on notice, with the Stros being the whipping boys. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Feb 14, 2020 14:36:07 GMT -6
It is too bad MLB will not do thorough investigations into other teams....We can only hope other teams will have their own Mike Fiers situation.... I'm REALLY hoping that Beltran opens up after the last article and takes some others down with him. If it would expose the Yankees, I hope he does. My bet is he won't. |
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Post by Saint on Feb 14, 2020 14:44:15 GMT -6
Im still waiting on the Red Sox Fall out. Where the H is that at? What about the Yankees? Im sure there was something going on there how many seasons did they have winning seasons? Beltran we are behimd the times but we are the only ones getting hit. Thats where the BS is. So this is why I believe we trade some guys rebuild some trade some more rebuild more. And win it all again. Nick Senzel and Clint Frazier added to Kyle Tucker would be a great young core that could flurish. Frazier in LF. Js After Beltran retired he worked a year in the Yankees organization. The Yes Network has total control of their broadcasts with camera's all over the stadium. There can be a lot of questions to draw conclusions against their organization. Just like Smoltz mentioned this most likely happened with other teams, and now they are on notice, with the Stros being the whipping boys. That's what Boston accused them of in 2017. MLB investigated and claimed there was "insufficient evidence". They still fined them though, which is strange if there wasn't enough evidence. I guess all these 2019 Yankees forgot about the fact that they cheated enough to warrant a fine of some type even if it wasn't a big one. When Boston and NYC cheat it's okay, because it's just a little cheating. |
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Post by nathangarza29 on Feb 14, 2020 14:45:54 GMT -6
Im still waiting on the Red Sox Fall out. Where the H is that at? What about the Yankees? Im sure there was something going on there how many seasons did they have winning seasons? Beltran we are behimd the times but we are the only ones getting hit. Thats where the BS is. So this is why I believe we trade some guys rebuild some trade some more rebuild more. And win it all again. Nick Senzel and Clint Frazier added to Kyle Tucker would be a great young core that could flurish. Frazier in LF. Js After Beltran retired he worked a year in the Yankees organization. The Yes Network has total control of their broadcasts with camera's all over the stadium. There can be a lot of questions to draw conclusions against their organization. Just like Smoltz mentioned this most likely happened with other teams, and now they are on notice, with the Stros being the whipping boys. Exactley. It will only be us and that sucks. But to put it mildly we have to do something to shake this up alittle |
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Post by nathangarza29 on Feb 14, 2020 14:52:41 GMT -6
Thats why Im sayimg whats the best way to shut them all up?
Its not trying to win with this club. No.
As a hole we have to prove we can do it with some new guys
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Post by blcoach8 on Feb 14, 2020 15:29:08 GMT -6
Trading a handful of players isn't going to reduce the amount of negative attention right now. No but it could be a start You must be on some bad junk. None of this makes sense. We need to win to take attention off the cheating and you want to gut the roster.......Come back when you can make sense. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Thats why Im sayimg whats the best way to shut them all up? Its not trying to win with this club. No. As a hole we have to prove we can do it with some new guys" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ The above statement is evidence that you are way off. |
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Post by bearbryant on Feb 14, 2020 15:38:24 GMT -6
True....the only thing that could possibly help, even more than winning, for other teams to be found guilty....and their fans + media that get a dose of reality....Crossing Fingers it happens to the Yankees, Red Sox, Dodgers, Nationals, Cubs.....and then some lowly team as well, the Orioles....so we all can get a good laugh. Just after watching the clip on the MLB Network of the Dodgers, they gave a good trashing the Stros, they better hope no allegations are leveled at them. |
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