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Post by Hunter McCormick on Nov 27, 2019 15:22:03 GMT -6
Oh, so this is your fault, Catfish.
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Nov 27, 2019 15:33:52 GMT -6
Oh, so this is your fault, Catfish.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2019 15:34:57 GMT -6
Shhhhhhh... Still waiting for my letter from the patent office for Buzzin' Tampons.
Already got my Ad slogan ready for delivery. "No Reason you shouldn't be smiling those 3 Days a month"
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2019 8:14:57 GMT -6
Orioles waive Villar? WTF?
Bring him back as a low cost replacement for Karla, and spend elsewhere?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2019 8:17:32 GMT -6
Shhhhhhh... Still waiting for my letter from the patent office for Buzzin' Tampons. Already got my Ad slogan ready for delivery. "No Reason you shouldn't be smiling those 3 Days a month" Too early in the off season for feminine hygiene jokes?  |
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Post by thomasj13 on Nov 28, 2019 8:40:02 GMT -6
Shhhhhhh... Still waiting for my letter from the patent office for Buzzin' Tampons. Already got my Ad slogan ready for delivery. "No Reason you shouldn't be smiling those 3 Days a month" Too early in the off season for feminine hygiene jokes? [img alt=" " class="smile" src="//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png"] No, but wondering how you got so lucky that your wife's duration only is for 3 days... |
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Post by unionstation82 on Nov 28, 2019 9:17:29 GMT -6
Orioles waive Villar? WTF? Bring him back as a low cost replacement for Karla, and spend elsewhere? Never. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2019 9:27:33 GMT -6
Orioles waive Villar? WTF? Bring him back as a low cost replacement for Karla, and spend elsewhere? Never. You remember something I don't? Not ever player we have can be an AS. His '19 stats were pretty impressive for a team as bad as the O's ... .274, 111 Runs, 24 HR, 73 RBI's, 40 steals. Maybe get him and pay him about $5-6M That's more than we got out of our highly touted so called once in a generation SS. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Nov 28, 2019 9:29:20 GMT -6
You remember something I don't? Not ever player we have can be an AS. His '19 stats were pretty impressive for a team as bad as the O's ... .274, 111 Runs, 24 HR, 73 RBI's, 40 steals. Maybe get him and pay him about $5-6M That's more than we got out of our highly touted so called once in a generation SS. I just remember being so happy Correa replaced him in the lineup. He wasn’t a good hitter, made bad decisions, and wasn’t a great player. I think it would be going backwards unless he’s an upper echelon defender. |
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Post by Saint on Nov 28, 2019 12:27:10 GMT -6
Orioles waive Villar? WTF? Bring him back as a low cost replacement for Karla, and spend elsewhere? That's a ridiculous move by the Orioles. Almost every team should be interested in him. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Nov 28, 2019 13:00:23 GMT -6
Orioles waive Villar? WTF? Bring him back as a low cost replacement for Karla, and spend elsewhere? That's a ridiculous move by the Orioles. Almost every team should be interested in him. Keep in mind that ridiculous moves define the Orioles. |
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Post by Hunter McCormick on Nov 28, 2019 13:04:26 GMT -6
That's a ridiculous move by the Orioles. Almost every team should be interested in him. Apparently not. The Orioles reportedly were active in trying to trade him but the estimated $10M he's likely to get through arb was a turn-off to prospective trade partners. As it is right now, every team in baseball will have their turn at claiming him and run through arb, so we'll have to wait and see if anyone bites on that. I predict none will. He will definitely find work in 2020, but he'll probably have to sign on the FA market for less than $10M. JMO |
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Post by Saint on Nov 28, 2019 13:38:01 GMT -6
That's a ridiculous move by the Orioles. Almost every team should be interested in him. Apparently not. The Orioles reportedly were active in trying to trade him but the estimated $10M he's likely to get through arb was a turn-off to prospective trade partners. As it is right now, every team in baseball will have their turn at claiming him and run through arb, so we'll have to wait and see if anyone bites on that. I predict none will. He will definitely find work in 2020, but he'll probably have to sign on the FA market for less than $10M. JMO I don't think any would want to pay $10 million AND give up prospects. But he is worth that salary to any decent team with a need at SS or 2B. |
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Post by Hunter McCormick on Nov 28, 2019 13:52:51 GMT -6
Apparently not. The Orioles reportedly were active in trying to trade him but the estimated $10M he's likely to get through arb was a turn-off to prospective trade partners. As it is right now, every team in baseball will have their turn at claiming him and run through arb, so we'll have to wait and see if anyone bites on that. I predict none will. He will definitely find work in 2020, but he'll probably have to sign on the FA market for less than $10M. JMO I don't think any would want to pay $10 million AND give up prospects. But he is worth that salary to any decent team with a need at SS or 2B. The Orioles still would have benefited from a trade for 'cash considerations' or any run-of-the-mill scrub (not a valuable prospect). Yet apparently no such offer was made.
We'll see if any team is willing to roll the dice on what Villar may earn through arb (and the claiming fee which I *think* is a mere $50k) in the next few days. I predict he will not be claimed, then elect free-agency (which is his right, due to his service time).
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Post by unionstation82 on Nov 28, 2019 14:45:22 GMT -6
Unless Villar goes back to stealing bases like crazy, I’d be a bit unwilling to take him on.
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Post by Saint on Nov 28, 2019 15:37:14 GMT -6
Unless Villar goes back to stealing bases like crazy, I’d be a bit unwilling to take him on. 40/49 isn't enough for you? |
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Post by unionstation82 on Nov 28, 2019 16:57:35 GMT -6
Unless Villar goes back to stealing bases like crazy, I’d be a bit unwilling to take him on. 40/49 isn't enough for you? That was recently? How’s his defense? |
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Post by olpapa on Nov 28, 2019 17:18:09 GMT -6
This just popped up on today’s chat at MLBTR:
“6:01 Do you see it being hard for the Astros to lure name brand players from the FA pool viewing their scandal cloud around them?
6:01 It'll definitely be a factor. I don't see any big FAs signing with Houston until there's clarity about what suspensions and punishment is forthcoming”
I totally agree with the answer to the question. Of course if Crane is serious about wanting to avoid the luxury tax, a big FA signing isn’t likely this offseason anyway.
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Post by nathangarza29 on Nov 28, 2019 21:27:44 GMT -6
Yea some of the writers think Hinch is gonna be hit hard. And they doubt any mid to big name guys will sign with us knowing that.
They think trades are the route they will take and Springer should be locked up long term. 5 years+.
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Post by abregmanfan on Nov 28, 2019 21:44:44 GMT -6
Happy Thanksgiving.
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Post by Saint on Nov 29, 2019 7:20:28 GMT -6
40/49 isn't enough for you? That was recently? How’s his defense? That was last year. His defense at SS was a little better than average, and 2B a little below average. His average season since becoming a full-time player after leaving us: 145 Games 17 HR 56 RBI 76 Runs 40 SB 140 Hits .268/.336/.423 101 OPS+ 2.6 WAR And that includes a miserable 2017 season. He's not a star, but he's typically a better than average hitter and good baserunner that can play solid or better defense at a premium position. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Nov 29, 2019 7:32:57 GMT -6
That was recently? How’s his defense? That was last year. His defense at SS was a little better than average, and 2B a little below average. His average season since becoming a full-time player after leaving us: 145 Games 17 HR 56 RBI 76 Runs 40 SB 140 Hits .268/.336/.423 101 OPS+ 2.6 WAR And that includes a miserable 2017 season. He's not a star, but he's typically a better than average hitter and good baserunner that can play solid or better defense at a premium position. I don't see the Orioles line of thinking. If they didn't want to pay the estimated $10M in arbitration, they should have traded him. I am guessing he will land a 2 year/$24M deal. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Nov 29, 2019 8:35:38 GMT -6
If Villar could up the OBP, he’d be excellent. It’s still sad that Correa has been so injury prone that we’re considering this.
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Post by Hunter McCormick on Nov 29, 2019 8:42:03 GMT -6
That was last year. His defense at SS was a little better than average, and 2B a little below average. His average season since becoming a full-time player after leaving us: 145 Games 17 HR 56 RBI 76 Runs 40 SB 140 Hits .268/.336/.423 101 OPS+ 2.6 WAR And that includes a miserable 2017 season. He's not a star, but he's typically a better than average hitter and good baserunner that can play solid or better defense at a premium position. I don't see the Orioles line of thinking. If they didn't want to pay the estimated $10M in arbitration, they should have traded him. I am guessing he will land a 2 year/$24M deal. I don't think that will happen. If a team would be willing to pay $24M for him for two years, surely they'll claim him when their turn comes up on waivers and pay the $10M or so he'll get in arb, and not have any competition bidding for him on the free market. |
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Post by Saint on Nov 29, 2019 9:14:11 GMT -6
That was last year. His defense at SS was a little better than average, and 2B a little below average. His average season since becoming a full-time player after leaving us: 145 Games 17 HR 56 RBI 76 Runs 40 SB 140 Hits .268/.336/.423 101 OPS+ 2.6 WAR And that includes a miserable 2017 season. He's not a star, but he's typically a better than average hitter and good baserunner that can play solid or better defense at a premium position. I don't see the Orioles line of thinking. If they didn't want to pay the estimated $10M in arbitration, they should have traded him. I am guessing he will land a 2 year/$24M deal. Supposedly they couldn't find a trade partner. I believe they were asking for too much if that's really the case. There are a number of teams that could use a solid SS. |
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Post by Saint on Nov 29, 2019 9:16:32 GMT -6
If Villar could up the OBP, he’d be excellent. It’s still sad that Correa has been so injury prone that we’re considering this. It would only be a consideration if we were able to trade Correa for other areas. If you could go get a Luis Castillo and a prospect (for example) for Correa and then bring in Villar, you'd be hard-pressed not to think long and hard about it. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Nov 29, 2019 9:25:05 GMT -6
I don't see the Orioles line of thinking. If they didn't want to pay the estimated $10M in arbitration, they should have traded him. I am guessing he will land a 2 year/$24M deal. Supposedly they couldn't find a trade partner. I believe they were asking for too much if that's really the case. There are a number of teams that could use a solid SS. It's so unlike the Orioles to be unreasonable in their trade requests. |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Nov 29, 2019 13:41:15 GMT -6
That was recently? How’s his defense? That was last year. His defense at SS was a little better than average, and 2B a little below average. His average season since becoming a full-time player after leaving us: 145 Games 17 HR 56 RBI 76 Runs 40 SB 140 Hits .268/.336/.423 101 OPS+ 2.6 WAR And that includes a miserable 2017 season. He's not a star, but he's typically a better than average hitter and good baserunner that can play solid or better defense at a premium position. I complain about Karla as much as anyone, but I can't believe any of you would really want to replace his production (and potential) with that line. |
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Post by abregmanfan on Nov 29, 2019 14:46:27 GMT -6
That was last year. His defense at SS was a little better than average, and 2B a little below average. His average season since becoming a full-time player after leaving us: 145 Games 17 HR 56 RBI 76 Runs 40 SB 140 Hits .268/.336/.423 101 OPS+ 2.6 WAR And that includes a miserable 2017 season. He's not a star, but he's typically a better than average hitter and good baserunner that can play solid or better defense at a premium position. I complain about Karla as much as anyone, but I can't believe any of you would really want to replace his production (and potential) with that line. I want him traded to restock the farm, Kermit. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Nov 29, 2019 15:00:15 GMT -6
I complain about Karla as much as anyone, but I can't believe any of you would really want to replace his production (and potential) with that line. I want him traded to restock the farm, Kermit. I do as well.... |
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