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Post by thomasj13 on Nov 1, 2019 16:29:54 GMT -6
So who do you think the Astros will non-tender? I think they non-tender Sanchez and Biagini. I don’t think the team will exercise its $2.825 million option on Devenski. He may be non-tendered as well. Add Marisnick.... |
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Post by bearbryant on Nov 1, 2019 16:35:19 GMT -6
I'm more inclined to believe there's a shirtless-Marisnick painting hanging in the front office than their plan being to non-tender him That's just a prediction though
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Post by abregmanfan on Nov 1, 2019 17:31:05 GMT -6
So who do you think the Astros will non-tender? I think they non-tender Sanchez and Biagini. I don’t think the team will exercise its $2.825 million option on Devenski. He may be non-tendered as well. I think we will keep Biagini. Health is they key with Sanchez. See you later, Devo. |
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Post by olpapa on Nov 1, 2019 18:01:08 GMT -6
So who do you think the Astros will non-tender? I think they non-tender Sanchez and Biagini. I don’t think the team will exercise its $2.825 million option on Devenski. He may be non-tendered as well. I think we will keep Biagini. Health is they key with Sanchez. See you later, Devo. They may tender Biagini because he is projected to get just $1.5 million in arbitration. Sanchez is projected to get $5.6 million in arbitration. No way can I see him getting tendered. I could see him non-tendered and then re-signed to a much lower deal with incentives that permit him to make more money if he is healthy, on the ML roster and effective. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2019 18:32:08 GMT -6
I completely forgot about Biagini until y’all just brought him up.
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Nov 1, 2019 18:46:16 GMT -6
So who do you think the Astros will non-tender? I think they non-tender Sanchez and Biagini. I don’t think the team will exercise its $2.825 million option on Devenski. He may be non-tendered as well. Hopefully Marisnick and Devenski |
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Post by m240 on Nov 1, 2019 18:55:40 GMT -6
The money for 2020: Verlander 33 mil- He ain't going nowhereAltuve 29 mil- He ain't going nowhereGreinke 24.667 mil- He ain't going nowhereSpringer 21.4 mil (estimated-last arb year)- He ain't going nowhereBrantley 16 mil he ain't going nowhereReddick 13 mil bye bye- saves 13 millionBregman 12.667 mil- he ain't going nowhereOsuna 10.2 mil (estimated- 3rd arb year) bye bye - saves 10.2 million-cumulative total 23 millionPresley 8.75 mil he ain't going nowhereGurriel 8.4 mil he ain't going nowhereCorrea 7.4 mil (estimated- 2nd arb year)- bye bye saves 7 million total 30 millionSanchez 5.6 mil (estimated- 3rd arb year)- Peacock 4.6 mil (estimated- last arb year) McCullers 4.1 mil (set in stone. Injured players don't get arb raises or cuts) Diaz 2.4 mil (estimated- 1st arb year) Biagini 1.5 mil (estimated- 1st arb year) bye bye saves 1 million - total 31 millionSingleton 250K Benefits 15 mil That's 16 players plus benefits locked up for next year for a total of 217.93 mil, which is about 10 mil over the cap. Probably won't be back: Cole Not happening Smith 8 mil McHugh 5.8 mil Chirinos 5.575 mil Miley 5.5 mil Rondon 4.5 mil Harris 4.225 Maldonado 2.5 mil Devenski 2.825 mil Marisnick 3 mil (estimated- last arb year) Luhnow has some horse trading to do if he wants to stay under the cap, plus he has to come up with 9 players to round out the roster. You'll see a lot of call-ups next year, I'd wager. Now that is 13 guys and we are 20 million under, so add the guys making the minimum Alvarez Tucker Urquidy James Toro Straw Abreu Then add two catchers Chirinos and Maldonado preferably for 9 million total and we are up to 22 guys and only 7 million left under the cap. No veteran starters added and No veteran relievers added. this is not looking too spiffy |
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Post by talshill on Nov 1, 2019 19:13:12 GMT -6
The money for 2020: Verlander 33 mil- He ain't going nowhereAltuve 29 mil- He ain't going nowhereGreinke 24.667 mil- He ain't going nowhereSpringer 21.4 mil (estimated-last arb year)- He ain't going nowhereBrantley 16 mil he ain't going nowhereReddick 13 mil bye bye- saves 13 millionBregman 12.667 mil- he ain't going nowhereOsuna 10.2 mil (estimated- 3rd arb year) bye bye - saves 10.2 million-cumulative total 23 millionPresley 8.75 mil he ain't going nowhereGurriel 8.4 mil he ain't going nowhereCorrea 7.4 mil (estimated- 2nd arb year)- bye bye saves 7 million total 30 millionSanchez 5.6 mil (estimated- 3rd arb year)- Peacock 4.6 mil (estimated- last arb year) McCullers 4.1 mil (set in stone. Injured players don't get arb raises or cuts) Diaz 2.4 mil (estimated- 1st arb year) Biagini 1.5 mil (estimated- 1st arb year) bye bye saves 1 million - total 31 millionSingleton 250K Benefits 15 mil That's 16 players plus benefits locked up for next year for a total of 217.93 mil, which is about 10 mil over the cap. Probably won't be back: Cole Not happening Smith 8 mil McHugh 5.8 mil Chirinos 5.575 mil Miley 5.5 mil Rondon 4.5 mil Harris 4.225 Maldonado 2.5 mil Devenski 2.825 mil Marisnick 3 mil (estimated- last arb year) Luhnow has some horse trading to do if he wants to stay under the cap, plus he has to come up with 9 players to round out the roster. You'll see a lot of call-ups next year, I'd wager. Now that is 13 guys and we are 20 million under, so add the guys making the minimum Alvarez Tucker Urquidy James Toro Straw Abreu Then add two catchers Chirinos and Maldonado preferably for 9 million total and we are up to 22 guys and only 7 million left under the cap. No veteran starters added and No veteran relievers added. this is not looking too spiffy Plus no $ for deadline deals in 2020. I think the minor league catcher (what's his name?) takes over for Chirinos. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Nov 1, 2019 21:35:04 GMT -6
Now that is 13 guys and we are 20 million under, so add the guys making the minimum Alvarez Tucker Urquidy James Toro Straw Abreu Then add two catchers Chirinos and Maldonado preferably for 9 million total and we are up to 22 guys and only 7 million left under the cap. No veteran starters added and No veteran relievers added. this is not looking too spiffy Plus no $ for deadline deals in 2020. I think the minor league catcher (what's his name?) takes over for Chirinos. I think letting Chirinos go would be a mistake.......let Maldonado go and use Stubbs as backup. |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Nov 1, 2019 21:45:27 GMT -6
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Post by blcoach8 on Nov 1, 2019 22:42:36 GMT -6
Since we know Cole is gone, the only two of those I would sign are Harris and Chirinos . I am not sold on Harris even though he was solid most of the time I can't forget the playoff home runs he always gives up so I can do without him. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Nov 1, 2019 22:48:21 GMT -6
I would re-sign Harris. Why not? Let’s see if he can be even better. I also don’t trust Osuna. Pressly needs an offseason to figure out how to get ahead of hitters.
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Nov 1, 2019 23:01:56 GMT -6
I think we all bought a hog on Pressley. He'd never been that great and was mediocre for most of his career, then fooled us for a season leading us to believe that's who he really was...when in reality, he was the mediocre guy all along.
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Nov 2, 2019 1:53:28 GMT -6
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Post by bearbryant on Nov 2, 2019 9:03:15 GMT -6
Now that is 13 guys and we are 20 million under, so add the guys making the minimum Alvarez Tucker Urquidy James Toro Straw Abreu Then add two catchers Chirinos and Maldonado preferably for 9 million total and we are up to 22 guys and only 7 million left under the cap. No veteran starters added and No veteran relievers added. this is not looking too spiffy Plus no $ for deadline deals in 2020. I think the minor league catcher (what's his name?) takes over for Chirinos. |
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Post by olpapa on Nov 2, 2019 9:40:38 GMT -6
Roster Resource (now at Fangraphs) has the Astros 2020 payroll for Luxury Tax purposes estimated at $237,938,810. If Crane and Luhnow want to stay below the $208 million tax threshold for 2020, there will have to be some serious roster modification done.
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Post by unionstation82 on Nov 2, 2019 9:54:40 GMT -6
I think we all bought a hog on Pressley. He'd never been that great and was mediocre for most of his career, then fooled us for a season leading us to believe that's who he really was...when in reality, he was the mediocre guy all along. With his potential and what he’s proven, it’s frustrating to look up when he pitches and see a 2-0 count to almost every hitter. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Nov 2, 2019 9:56:12 GMT -6
Roster Resource (now at Fangraphs) has the Astros 2020 payroll for Luxury Tax purposes estimated at $237,938,810. If Crane and Luhnow want to stay below the $208 million tax threshold for 2020, there will have to be some serious roster modification done. How on earth did the payroll get so high so quickly? Is this due to Verlander and Greinke? |
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Post by blcoach8 on Nov 2, 2019 10:01:15 GMT -6
So who do you think the Astros will non-tender? I think they non-tender Sanchez and Biagini. I don’t think the team will exercise its $2.825 million option on Devenski. He may be non-tendered as well. I have a feeling we keep Sanchez and drop the other two.......I hope I've seen the last of the strutting and useless Devenski. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Nov 2, 2019 10:06:52 GMT -6
Plus no $ for deadline deals in 2020. I think the minor league catcher (what's his name?) takes over for Chirinos. TIWSS |
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Post by talshill on Nov 2, 2019 10:09:57 GMT -6
Roster Resource (now at Fangraphs) has the Astros 2020 payroll for Luxury Tax purposes estimated at $237,938,810. If Crane and Luhnow want to stay below the $208 million tax threshold for 2020, there will have to be some serious roster modification done. How on earth did the payroll get so high so quickly? Is this due to Verlander and Greinke? Altuve's 29 mil, Verlander's 33 mil, Greinke's 20-something mil all kick in next year. Arbitration raises will add several more million. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Nov 2, 2019 10:17:48 GMT -6
So who do you think the Astros will non-tender? I think they non-tender Sanchez and Biagini. I don’t think the team will exercise its $2.825 million option on Devenski. He may be non-tendered as well. I have a feeling we keep Sanchez and drop the other two.......I hope I've seen the last of the strutting and useless Devenski. Because of total team salary reasons, I think they would let them all walk. Maybe keep Biagini, because less than 2M, but still they have cheaper arms in the minor leagues. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Nov 2, 2019 10:21:02 GMT -6
I am advocating for a bullpen to be mainly comprised of players promoted from our minor league system....yes, still have some experienced vets, but we are talking 2-3 at most.
Also, for hitters, I want to see Toro, Stubbs and Straw all make the team.
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Post by blcoach8 on Nov 2, 2019 10:35:26 GMT -6
I am advocating for a bullpen to be mainly comprised of players promoted from our minor league system....yes, still have some experienced vets, but we are talking 2-3 at most. Also, for hitters, I want to see Toro, Stubbs and Straw all make the team. i want to see all three make the team, but, I want Stubbs to backup Chirinos. Chirinos had the best year that any catcher has had for us in years and needs to be re-signed. I realize we need to cut some salary but we don't need to weaken the team in several areas to do it. |
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Post by Hunter McCormick on Nov 2, 2019 10:58:29 GMT -6
So who do you think the Astros will non-tender? I think they non-tender Sanchez and Biagini. I don’t think the team will exercise its $2.825 million option on Devenski. He may be non-tendered as well. These are the arb guys listed in order according to their 2019 salary: George Springer $12M Roberto Osuna $6.5M Carlos Correa $5M Lance McCullers Jr. $4.1M Aaron Sanchez $3.9M Brad Peacock $3.11M Jake Marisnick $2.21M Aledmys Diaz $2M Chris Devenski $1.52M Joe Biagini $900k
I think Jork will be gone. Not because he isn't worth the money but because they need to open a roster slot for Tucker.
Springer, Brantley, Reddick, and Marisnick are all due to hit FA in 2021. Even if they do sign Springer and Brantley, that would mean two rookies (unless they sign or trade for someone else), unless Tucker and/or someone else sees the bigs in 2021. If they don't sign either Springer or Brantley, the astros could be looking at a complete rookie OF in 2021. *gasp*
Or maybe Jork is tendered a contract and gets traded. idk.
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Post by olpapa on Nov 2, 2019 11:01:14 GMT -6
Roster Resource (now at Fangraphs) has the Astros 2020 payroll for Luxury Tax purposes estimated at $237,938,810. If Crane and Luhnow want to stay below the $208 million tax threshold for 2020, there will have to be some serious roster modification done. How on earth did the payroll get so high so quickly? Is this due to Verlander and Greinke? We traded 4 minor leaguers for Greinke. The pay of the 4 minor leaguers is minimal. Houston’s portion of Greinke’s salary (after receiving $10,300,000 from Arizona each year 2020-2021) is $25,421,428 each year. We traded a minimum salary guy, Derek Fisher, to Toronto and got in return a minor league outfielder plus Sanchez (who is projected to get $5.6 million in arbitration) and Biagini (who is projected to get $1.5 million in arbitration). Those 2 trades added $32,521,428 to the Astros payroll in 2020. That goes a long way toward explaining how the payroll got so high so quickly. |
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Post by bearbryant on Nov 2, 2019 13:03:51 GMT -6
I hope Stubbs is durable. He's small for his position TIWSS |
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Post by thomasj13 on Nov 2, 2019 13:09:44 GMT -6
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Post by bearbryant on Nov 2, 2019 13:35:59 GMT -6
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Post by thomasj13 on Nov 2, 2019 14:10:16 GMT -6
Plus no $ for deadline deals in 2020. I think the minor league catcher (what's his name?) takes over for Chirinos. BTW this was a great pun. |
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