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Post by Saint on Dec 11, 2019 10:43:56 GMT -6
I think Luhnow is more interested in shedding payroll than taking on payroll He probably is. That said, it’s hard to see how the team can shed payroll this offseason, not take on any payroll and compete for a championship in 2020. Lots of payroll coming off the books at the end of 2020 though. If Crane was, as it was reported, willing to pay the luxury tax in 2020 in order to re-sign Cole, I would think he would do the same to sign Rendon. Just my opinion though. I think Cole is likely the only person he would have been really willing to go that far past the luxury tax line for. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Dec 11, 2019 10:45:47 GMT -6
Cincinnati needs a SS. Miami is supposedly looking for a LH hitting OFer, but is not interested in giving up a top prospect to get one. Astros need arms. Astros need to unload Reddick. I would like to see us move Gimpy Correa in a deal to the Reds that would get us Amir Garrett. Then trade Reddick to the Marlins for a sack of marbles, with the Marlins picking up the entire $13 million tab on Reddick for 2020. Then sign Rendon to play 3B and move Bregman to SS. There is your assignment Luhnow. Make it so. Glad to see I'm not the only one in on going after Rendon...We can't sign a top name pitcher so go get another run-producer to play third base with Bregman moving to SS ...I want Correa's candy ass out of Houston...../get rid of Reddick's salary. Why Amir Garrett and not Castillo??? |
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Post by blcoach8 on Dec 11, 2019 10:47:36 GMT -6
I think Luhnow is more interested in shedding payroll than taking on payroll If all he does is dump salary, we won't win the division.......I don't want Crane turning into Drayton McLane. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Dec 11, 2019 10:48:49 GMT -6
He probably is. That said, it’s hard to see how the team can shed payroll this offseason, not take on any payroll and compete for a championship in 2020. Lots of payroll coming off the books at the end of 2020 though. If Crane was, as it was reported, willing to pay the luxury tax in 2020 in order to re-sign Cole, I would think he would do the same to sign Rendon. Just my opinion though. I think Cole is likely the only person he would have been really willing to go that far past the luxury tax line for. Signing Rendon is the shot in the arm we need. |
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Post by bearbryant on Dec 11, 2019 10:50:48 GMT -6
I think Luhnow is more interested in shedding payroll than taking on payroll He probably is. That said, it’s hard to see how the team can shed payroll this offseason, not take on any payroll and compete for a championship in 2020. Lots of payroll coming off the books at the end of 2020 though. If Crane was, as it was reported, willing to pay the luxury tax in 2020 in order to re-sign Cole, I would think he would do the same to sign Rendon. Just my opinion though. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Dec 11, 2019 10:53:11 GMT -6
He probably is. That said, it’s hard to see how the team can shed payroll this offseason, not take on any payroll and compete for a championship in 2020. Lots of payroll coming off the books at the end of 2020 though. If Crane was, as it was reported, willing to pay the luxury tax in 2020 in order to re-sign Cole, I would think he would do the same to sign Rendon. Just my opinion though. We don't need to be dealing more prospects so I would not trade for Bryant....It makes more sense to sign Rendon..He is a home-grown product who could help our offense flourish for many years. |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Dec 11, 2019 10:59:45 GMT -6
Cincinnati needs a SS. Miami is supposedly looking for a LH hitting OFer, but is not interested in giving up a top prospect to get one. Astros need arms. Astros need to unload Reddick. I would like to see us move Gimpy Correa in a deal to the Reds that would get us Amir Garrett. Then trade Reddick to the Marlins for a sack of marbles, with the Marlins picking up the entire $13 million tab on Reddick for 2020. Then sign Rendon to play 3B and move Bregman to SS. There is your assignment Luhnow. Make it so. Garrett, didn't get in some type of baseball fight last season. I'm helping out hope that we trade Korea to the Dodgers or the mats. They both have pitching and catching depth It is too damned early to be this drunk, son. Do better. |
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Post by Saint on Dec 11, 2019 11:00:02 GMT -6
I think Cole is likely the only person he would have been really willing to go that far past the luxury tax line for. Signing Rendon is the shot in the arm we need. You don't win in the postseason without pitching. We can't keep adding high priced position players and not doing something about the rotation. |
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Post by bearbryant on Dec 11, 2019 11:01:38 GMT -6
Rendon's deal is expected to look like Strasburg's. 7 years with an AAV that tops Arenado
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Post by thomasj13 on Dec 11, 2019 11:02:08 GMT -6
There'll be minor additions, but wrenching a trade for Kris Bryant instead of taking out the checkbook for Rendon seems more Luhnow's M.O. We don't need to be dealing more prospects so I would not trade for Bryant....It makes more sense to sign Rendon..He is a home-grown product who could help our offense flourish for many years. I think you re-sign Springer.... Trade Correa and Osuna to get good young prospects and free up salary. Trade Reddick to free up salary. As far as signings, Astros are pretty much at the luxury tax line. So they need to free up salary, as said above, and go bargain shopping. I think they should get a reliable SP (innings eater) and a two or three good bullpen arms. Maybe go the Tampa Bay Ray's route, by using the bullpen to start games on days needed. |
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Post by olpapa on Dec 11, 2019 11:02:34 GMT -6
Cincinnati needs a SS. Miami is supposedly looking for a LH hitting OFer, but is not interested in giving up a top prospect to get one. Astros need arms. Astros need to unload Reddick. I would like to see us move Gimpy Correa in a deal to the Reds that would get us Amir Garrett. Then trade Reddick to the Marlins for a sack of marbles, with the Marlins picking up the entire $13 million tab on Reddick for 2020. Then sign Rendon to play 3B and move Bregman to SS. There is your assignment Luhnow. Make it so. Glad to see I'm not the only one in on going after Rendon...We can't sign a top name pitcher so go get another run-producer to play third base with Bregman moving to SS ...I want Correa's candy ass out of Houston...../get rid of Reddick's salary. Why Amir Garrett and not Castillo??? I can’t see the Reds trading Castillo. I’ve been keeping an eye on Garrett since he was in the minor leagues. He would be the dominant lefty we need in the bullpen. He has the mentality needed in the role of shutdown relief pitcher. The guy will not be intimidated. He’s got balls. He charged the Pirates dugout by himself last season. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Dec 11, 2019 11:02:53 GMT -6
Garrett, didn't get in some type of baseball fight last season. I'm helping out hope that we trade Korea to the Dodgers or the mats. They both have pitching and catching depth It is too damned early to be this drunk, son. Do better. Never too early.. |
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Post by Saint on Dec 11, 2019 11:04:13 GMT -6
We don't need to be dealing more prospects so I would not trade for Bryant....It makes more sense to sign Rendon..He is a home-grown product who could help our offense flourish for many years. I think you re-sign Springer.... Trade Correa and Osuna to get good young prospects and free up salary. Trade Reddick to free up salary. As far as signings, Astros are pretty much at the luxury tax line. So they need to free up salary, as said above, and go bargain shopping. I think they should get a reliable SP (innings eater) and a two or three good bullpen arms. Maybe go the Tampa Bay Ray's route, by using the bullpen to start games on days needed. That would all be best case scenario, imo. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Dec 11, 2019 11:04:17 GMT -6
It is too damned early to be this drunk, son. Do better. Never too early.. Wow, just saw what I posted: voice texting and not proofreading is a deadly combination |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Dec 11, 2019 11:05:01 GMT -6
I think we all need to remember that we still have a 1-2 punch of a couple of the best pitchers in baseball. Some of the posts on here sound like we don't have Verlander and Grienke pitching for us, and a previously-good McCullers coming back. We won't have 3-5 aces, but neither will anyone else.
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Post by thomasj13 on Dec 11, 2019 11:09:33 GMT -6
I think we all need to remember that we still have a 1-2 punch of a couple of the best pitchers in baseball. Some of the posts on here sound like we don't have Verlander and Grienke pitching for us, and a previously-good McCullers coming back. We won't have 3-5 aces, but neither will anyone else. What do you think of McCullers going to the pen, to lessen the probability of injury, due to his violent delivery? |
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Post by olpapa on Dec 11, 2019 11:10:06 GMT -6
Signing Rendon is the shot in the arm we need. You don't win in the postseason without pitching. We can't keep adding high priced position players and not doing something about the rotation. You don’t win WITH pitching when you don’t score. We had JV, Cole and Greinke last season. If we couldn’t win the WS with that rotation and the position players we had, we aren’t going to win the WS with pitching and the same or lesser position players next season imo. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Dec 11, 2019 11:13:46 GMT -6
And Verlander will be gone after 2020. Well they won the WS in 2017. In 2021 along with Greinke, McCullers, and Correa. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Dec 11, 2019 11:15:40 GMT -6
Cincinnati needs a SS. Miami is supposedly looking for a LH hitting OFer, but is not interested in giving up a top prospect to get one. Astros need arms. Astros need to unload Reddick. I would like to see us move Gimpy Correa in a deal to the Reds that would get us Amir Garrett. Then trade Reddick to the Marlins for a sack of marbles, with the Marlins picking up the entire $13 million tab on Reddick for 2020. Then sign Rendon to play 3B and move Bregman to SS. There is your assignment Luhnow. Make it so. You’d rather have Garrett than Castillo? Everything else sounds great. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Dec 11, 2019 11:15:59 GMT -6
I think we all need to remember that we still have a 1-2 punch of a couple of the best pitchers in baseball. Some of the posts on here sound like we don't have Verlander and Grienke pitching for us, and a previously-good McCullers coming back. We won't have 3-5 aces, but neither will anyone else. Get Rendon. |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Dec 11, 2019 11:16:11 GMT -6
I think we all need to remember that we still have a 1-2 punch of a couple of the best pitchers in baseball. Some of the posts on here sound like we don't have Verlander and Grienke pitching for us, and a previously-good McCullers coming back. We won't have 3-5 aces, but neither will anyone else. What do you think of McCullers going to the pen, to lessen the probability of injury, due to his violent delivery? I think we need him in the rotation. Anyone can be a reliever...McCullers is a starter. Let him start. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Dec 11, 2019 11:16:50 GMT -6
You don't win in the postseason without pitching. We can't keep adding high priced position players and not doing something about the rotation. You don’t win WITH pitching when you don’t score. We had JV, Cole and Greinke last season. If we couldn’t win the WS with that rotation and the position players we had, we aren’t going to win the WS with pitching and the same or lesser position players next season imo. Thank you. Almost no one seems to remember the god-awful hitting when they complain about Cole. |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Dec 11, 2019 11:18:12 GMT -6
I think we all need to remember that we still have a 1-2 punch of a couple of the best pitchers in baseball. Some of the posts on here sound like we don't have Verlander and Grienke pitching for us, and a previously-good McCullers coming back. We won't have 3-5 aces, but neither will anyone else. Get Rendon. We need a real catcher. We need relief pitching. We need a #4 and #5 pitcher in the rotation. We don't need a 3B. If you sign Rendon to what he's surely going to be paid, you don't get to extend Springer. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Dec 11, 2019 11:22:16 GMT -6
What do you think of McCullers going to the pen, to lessen the probability of injury, due to his violent delivery? I think we need him in the rotation. Anyone can be a reliever...McCullers is a starter. Let him start. I know we need him to start, but if he can do 1 to 2 inning stints for the whole year; as opposed to starting, where you pretty much figure he is going on the DL for a significant period of time, which one do you do? |
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Post by thomasj13 on Dec 11, 2019 11:25:14 GMT -6
We need a real catcher. We need relief pitching. We need a #4 and #5 pitcher in the rotation. We don't need a 3B. If you sign Rendon to what he's surely going to be paid, you don't get to extend Springer. Astros need Springer in the OF for next 5 years way more than they would need Rendon at 3B for that same time |
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Post by Saint on Dec 11, 2019 11:26:10 GMT -6
You don't win in the postseason without pitching. We can't keep adding high priced position players and not doing something about the rotation. You don’t win WITH pitching when you don’t score. We had JV, Cole and Greinke last season. If we couldn’t win the WS with that rotation and the position players we had, we aren’t going to win the WS with pitching and the same or lesser position players next season imo. Out of those three only Greinke actually pitched well in the WS though. Even the $300 million man gave up 6 ER in 14 IP in the WS. And surely you agree that our offense pretty well underperformed in the WS. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Dec 11, 2019 11:28:22 GMT -6
We need a real catcher. We need relief pitching. We need a #4 and #5 pitcher in the rotation. We don't need a 3B. If you sign Rendon to what he's surely going to be paid, you don't get to extend Springer. If they trade Correa, they need a replacement to remain a contender because they still need relief and a catcher. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Dec 11, 2019 11:29:55 GMT -6
We need a real catcher. We need relief pitching. We need a #4 and #5 pitcher in the rotation. We don't need a 3B. If you sign Rendon to what he's surely going to be paid, you don't get to extend Springer. Astros need Springer in the OF for next 5 years way more than they would need Rendon at 3B for that same time It’s telling that they hadn’t locked him up after all those years. Bregman beating Springer to the punch was a real shocker. |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Dec 11, 2019 11:31:37 GMT -6
Astros offered Cole 7/$250m
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Post by thomasj13 on Dec 11, 2019 11:31:45 GMT -6
We need a real catcher. We need relief pitching. We need a #4 and #5 pitcher in the rotation. We don't need a 3B. If you sign Rendon to what he's surely going to be paid, you don't get to extend Springer. If they trade Correa, they need a replacement to remain a contender because they still need relief and a catcher. Toro or Tanielu + Bregman could be the answer. Yuli, Diaz and Straw + Bregman could help out until someone earns the role/position. |
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