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Post by blcoach8 on Jan 9, 2020 10:18:53 GMT -6
I am still of the opinion that Reddick and a prospect goes somewhere for a minor pitching prospect and that we sign another innings eater before the season begins. Outside of maybe convincing Cole to stay (doubtful), that was always really the best case (and realistic) scenario for this offseason. Getting Maldonado and Smith for fairly cheap is almost a bonus to me. You sure have switched gears on Maldonado. When we first acquired him, you bashed him the whole time he was here. Now, you act like we have a young Pudge Rodriguez. Chirinos was a much better option. Smith is nothing special....;not as effective as Harris. Goinch cheap is great as long as money saved is spent to extend Springer. We must have another starting pitcher and I don't see much available. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Jan 9, 2020 10:22:15 GMT -6
If there money crunching Springer is the person who would be gone. Of he infact would want between 25 and 35 million. If this is true, then you have to acompdate a chance you can trade him and try and get something. Im not saying just let him walk, im not saying dont tey and sign him. But there will be a roster crunch eventually. After 2021 there will be like 50million comming off the books in Verlander and Grienke. So with that being said you would need to weather the storm. But let say we are in bad shape at the deadline. You have to consider moving him and some others for some good prospects. Brantley Yuli and Springer possibly even Grienke. My thing is if you love Springer you pay him what ever to keep him. But if you are a GM trying to keep your job and not be in Cap pergatory you have to finagle his deal and not go over board. We dont want another A.J. Polluck contract out there. With that being said a 3yr deal would suffice. I wouldnt push for more years. I wouldnt make him stay in CF either. He risk his body alot on plays. A COF postion would be in his future. Why do you keep mentioning a 3-year deal? No top performer, star player is going to accept a 3-year deal in what is likely their only (or best, at least) chance to cash in on free agency. Offer Springer 5 years/$130 million and we get him to sign. |
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Post by bearbryant on Jan 9, 2020 10:22:57 GMT -6
Friends, I’m thinking we better enjoy this Astros team in 2020 because there is a very real chance that we will see an entirely new outfield and a new first baseman in 2021. We don’t really have any good near-ML-ready outfielders in the minor leagues who aren’t already on the 40-man roster. I’m betting that the team is going to give Alvarez a lot of playing time in LF in ST. I see him playing LF more in the regular season as well. I think Taylor Jones will get a lot of innings at 1B in ST. I think he will get a good bit of playing time in LF in addition to playing 1B at AAA in 2020. If Abraham Toro doesn’t make the OD roster, I think he will play a lot of 1B at AAA this year. I wouldn’t be surprised if they let him catch a few games as well. He played some catcher in college and also in the lower minor leagues. He could add some value by being the emergency catcher for the Astros in a couple years. With the likelihood that we will lose draft picks as part of our punishment for sign stealing, I really can’t see Luhnow weakening the farm any more than he already has by trading prospects for another outfielder. How does an outfield of Alvarez, Straw and Tucker with Taylor Jones playing 1B in 2021 sound to you? |
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Post by blcoach8 on Jan 9, 2020 10:49:34 GMT -6
Friends, I’m thinking we better enjoy this Astros team in 2020 because there is a very real chance that we will see an entirely new outfield and a new first baseman in 2021. We don’t really have any good near-ML-ready outfielders in the minor leagues who aren’t already on the 40-man roster. I’m betting that the team is going to give Alvarez a lot of playing time in LF in ST. I see him playing LF more in the regular season as well. I think Taylor Jones will get a lot of innings at 1B in ST. I think he will get a good bit of playing time in LF in addition to playing 1B at AAA in 2020. If Abraham Toro doesn’t make the OD roster, I think he will play a lot of 1B at AAA this year. I wouldn’t be surprised if they let him catch a few games as well. He played some catcher in college and also in the lower minor leagues. He could add some value by being the emergency catcher for the Astros in a couple years. With the likelihood that we will lose draft picks as part of our punishment for sign stealing, I really can’t see Luhnow weakening the farm any more than he already has by trading prospects for another outfielder. How does an outfield of Alvarez, Straw and Tucker with Taylor Jones playing 1B in 2021 sound to you? That might alleviate his back issues........if we can re-sign him. I still think trading him is the better option. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Jan 9, 2020 10:50:35 GMT -6
With Antonelli announcing that Lindor is staying put, now is the time to trade Correa.
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Post by Saint on Jan 9, 2020 10:59:36 GMT -6
Outside of maybe convincing Cole to stay (doubtful), that was always really the best case (and realistic) scenario for this offseason. Getting Maldonado and Smith for fairly cheap is almost a bonus to me. You sure have switched gears on Maldonado. When we first acquired him, you bashed him the whole time he was here. Now, you act like we have a young Pudge Rodriguez. Chirinos was a much better option. Smith is nothing special....;not as effective as Harris. Goinch cheap is great as long as money saved is spent to extend Springer. We must have another starting pitcher and I don't see much available. Times and needs changed. I didn't think we needed him before and he wasn't doing well defensively at the time. Now we do need cheap depth. He's cheap depth and his defense has bounced back. If we had more money available or if Stubbs had shown better results last year I might have said we didn't need him. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Jan 9, 2020 12:06:46 GMT -6
You sure have switched gears on Maldonado. When we first acquired him, you bashed him the whole time he was here. Now, you act like we have a young Pudge Rodriguez. Chirinos was a much better option. Smith is nothing special....;not as effective as Harris. Goinch cheap is great as long as money saved is spent to extend Springer. We must have another starting pitcher and I don't see much available. Times and needs changed. I didn't think we needed him before and he wasn't doing well defensively at the time. Now we do need cheap depth. He's cheap depth and his defense has bounced back. If we had more money available or if Stubbs had shown better results last year I might have said we didn't need him. My hope is that Stubbs is close to being ready to take over as the starter. Our main concern now should be getting a good starting pitcher. I still think James needs the opportunity to start. |
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Post by nathangarza29 on Jan 9, 2020 13:04:05 GMT -6
With Antonelli announcing that Lindor is staying put, now is the time to trade Correa. Exactly. This is the perfect time to capitalize on Correa. One domino off the board presents another domino waiting to fall. Cheaper younger players that will help facilitate when we lose older vets one high salarys. |
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Post by Saint on Jan 9, 2020 14:45:50 GMT -6
Times and needs changed. I didn't think we needed him before and he wasn't doing well defensively at the time. Now we do need cheap depth. He's cheap depth and his defense has bounced back. If we had more money available or if Stubbs had shown better results last year I might have said we didn't need him. My hope is that Stubbs is close to being ready to take over as the starter. Our main concern now should be getting a good starting pitcher. I still think James needs the opportunity to start. If we can, I'd love another starter. I think from a value standpoint we're probably better off going for another proven reliever (cheaper and less health concerns) while we're limited on money. I think our best option for a starter would be through a trade, and needs to be for somebody with more than 2 years of control, imo. |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Jan 9, 2020 15:42:49 GMT -6
Astros agree to a deal with Tony Sipp. 3/$18m. Disappointed in the response this post got. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Jan 9, 2020 15:48:10 GMT -6
Astros agree to a deal with Tony Sipp. 3/$18m. Disappointed in the response this post got. At least you got my response. Better than being on an island like I was on the other thread...for my parody on Bull Durham, in reference to the Astros win count over the last 3 years.... |
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Post by blcoach8 on Jan 9, 2020 15:55:55 GMT -6
Astros agree to a deal with Tony Sipp. 3/$18m. Disappointed in the response this post got. I tried to ignore it because I had confidence they could not be that stupid. |
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Post by Saint on Jan 9, 2020 16:21:27 GMT -6
Astros agree to a deal with Tony Sipp. 3/$18m. Disappointed in the response this post got. You aimed too high. Something more believable would have been a 1-year $3 million deal with an option year. |
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Post by abregmanfan on Jan 9, 2020 16:32:37 GMT -6
Astros agree to a deal with Tony Sipp. 3/$18m. Disappointed in the response this post got. Lol. I bet Nathan googled it for hours. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Jan 9, 2020 17:00:01 GMT -6
Disappointed in the response this post got. Lol. I bet Nathan googled it for hours. On other teams' forums, he used Bortaz's post as reference post for what is being discussed in Houston. |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Jan 9, 2020 20:15:12 GMT -6
Lol. I bet Nathan googled it for hours. On other teams' forums, he used Bortaz's post as reference post for what is being discussed in Houston. Ha! |
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Post by olpapa on Jan 9, 2020 20:15:25 GMT -6
Lol. I bet Nathan googled it for hours. On other teams' forums, he used Bortaz's post as reference post for what is being discussed in Houston. I have no doubt that is true. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2020 20:45:36 GMT -6
Lol. I bet Nathan googled it for hours. On other teams' forums, he used Bortaz's post as reference post for what is being discussed in Houston. I shudder thinking other team's fans thinks Voodoo is a represenative example of an Astros fan. |
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Post by nathangarza29 on Jan 9, 2020 21:44:28 GMT -6
Cal stevenson just traded to the Rays no word on return
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Post by nathangarza29 on Jan 9, 2020 21:52:04 GMT -6
Cal stevenson just traded to the Rays no word on return Stevenson and Battenfield for Pruitt. Of the rays DEETZ sent down |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Jan 9, 2020 22:05:14 GMT -6
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Post by unionstation82 on Jan 9, 2020 22:12:24 GMT -6
I’d like for Deetz to be traded to the Dodgers. That would make for some good headlines. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2020 6:24:42 GMT -6
Paging OP....
On the surface this looks like such a great trade. Stevenson has lifetime .315 ba in the minors, Battenfield had 1.60 era in his first stint at "A" Ball. This for a 5-ish era MLB pitcher?
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Post by Saint on Jan 10, 2020 6:36:46 GMT -6
I'm not sure about this deal, but thinking positive....
1. He has improved at the MLB level each year, and he was a pretty solid and consistent starter in AAA. He also wouldn't be a free agent for five more years.
2. So, if they think they can turn him into an adequate rotation piece, he would be cheap for a good long while.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2020 7:06:12 GMT -6
Paging OP.... On the surface this looks like such a great trade. Stevenson has lifetime .315 ba in the minors, Battenfield had 1.60 era in his first stint at "A" Ball. This for a 5-ish era MLB pitcher? Oops, not enough coffee. Meant..... On the surface this " does not look like such a good trade" |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2020 7:07:43 GMT -6
I'm not sure about this deal, but thinking positive.... 1. He has improved at the MLB level each year, and he was a pretty solid and consistent starter in AAA. He also wouldn't be a free agent for five more years. 2. So, if they think they can turn him into an adequate rotation piece, he would be cheap for a good long while. Unless Strom pulls another miracle, this guy sounds like the proverbial "innings eater". |
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Post by Saint on Jan 10, 2020 8:21:35 GMT -6
I'm not sure about this deal, but thinking positive.... 1. He has improved at the MLB level each year, and he was a pretty solid and consistent starter in AAA. He also wouldn't be a free agent for five more years. 2. So, if they think they can turn him into an adequate rotation piece, he would be cheap for a good long while. Unless Strom pulls another miracle, this guy sounds like the proverbial "innings eater". Well he has that really high spin rate that they like to go after. Who knows? |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2020 8:26:31 GMT -6
I'm not sure about this deal, but thinking positive.... 1. He has improved at the MLB level each year, and he was a pretty solid and consistent starter in AAA. He also wouldn't be a free agent for five more years. 2. So, if they think they can turn him into an adequate rotation piece, he would be cheap for a good long while. Unless Strom pulls another miracle, this guy sounds like the proverbial "innings eater". I read somewhere that this will be a Strom project. This is from an article * According to Statcast, Pruitt's average curveball spin rate of 2,999 revolutions per minute ranked ninth out of 358 pitchers (min. 250 pitches thrown) in 2019. That makes him an intriguing project for pitching coach Brent Strom, who helped Morton and Ryan Pressly take their games to new levels in Houston by emphasizing spin rates. * Maybe he can be made in to a serviceable 4-5 starter. Trying to be positive. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Jan 10, 2020 8:28:48 GMT -6
Unless Strom pulls another miracle, this guy sounds like the proverbial "innings eater". I read somewhere that this will be a Strom project. This is from an article * According to Statcast, Pruitt's average curveball spin rate of 2,999 revolutions per minute ranked ninth out of 358 pitchers (min. 250 pitches thrown) in 2019. That makes him an intriguing project for pitching coach Brent Strom, who helped Morton and Ryan Pressly take their games to new levels in Houston by emphasizing spin rates. * Maybe he can be made in to a serviceable 4-5 starter. Trying to be positive. That's the Spirit! |
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Post by churchill on Jan 10, 2020 9:38:29 GMT -6
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