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Post by olpapa on Jan 16, 2020 10:28:03 GMT -6
LA City Council may ask MLB to declare Dodgers 2017, 2018 champs following Astros, Red Sox cheating probes
What a crock. Better declare the Astros champions of the 1998 NLDS over Kevin Brown and the other steroid monkeys playing for the Padres that season. |
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Post by paastrosfan on Jan 16, 2020 10:39:40 GMT -6
LA City Council may ask MLB to declare Dodgers 2017, 2018 champs following Astros, Red Sox cheating probes
Just like where the Socialist Lib's hold control in government, in Virginia where they are shutting down private shooting ranges. Yeah the patriots of the constitution when it serves their purpose. |
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Post by sempersmom on Jan 16, 2020 10:39:41 GMT -6
They're just grasping at straws. Idiots.
Edit: I forgot, straws aren't allowed in Cali.
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Post by Saint on Jan 16, 2020 10:59:57 GMT -6
Pull the title. Just make sure you pull the titles for every team that had PED users, spitballers, etc. Need to remove a whole bunch of titles. Don't forget the 2018 Red Sox too.
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Post by blcoach8 on Jan 16, 2020 11:14:21 GMT -6
LA City Council may ask MLB to declare Dodgers 2017, 2018 champs following Astros, Red Sox cheating probes
What a crock. Better declare the Astros champions of the 1998 NLDS over Kevin Brown and the other steroid monkeys playing for the Padres that season. Dodger have clueless manager who blew 2 WS opportunities and were eliminated last season by the wild card team. So, since they can't win it on the field, these idiots in the council want titles handed to them. Typical California.....the lartest haven for morons and perverts on earth. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Jan 16, 2020 11:16:20 GMT -6
Gibbons is as much of a dud as Banister and Baker........why are these idiots being considered?? |
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Post by abregmanfan on Jan 16, 2020 11:19:07 GMT -6
Gibbons is as much of a dud as Banister and Baker........why are these idiots being considered?? Gibbons is well respected in the baseball community. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2020 11:22:47 GMT -6
Gibbons is as much of a dud as Banister and Baker........why are these idiots being considered?? Gibbons is well respected in the baseball community. A few of these candidates are less than stellar. However, ST starts in less than a month, so I assume Crane is just trying to find a hold over for a season who has some experience and is well respected. |
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Post by sempersmom on Jan 16, 2020 11:24:34 GMT -6
ɮօʀȶǟʐLook at what your favorite softball player is saying about Fiers:
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Jan 16, 2020 11:29:01 GMT -6
ɮօʀȶǟʐ Look at what your favorite softball player is saying about Fiers: Wow, Golic lost a lot of weight. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Jan 16, 2020 12:14:17 GMT -6
Gibbons is as much of a dud as Banister and Baker........why are these idiots being considered?? Gibbons is well respected in the baseball community. Being respected doesn't make him a winner....he looks like he is about to pass out whenever he walks to the mound. We need a guy who doesn't always look like he is about to go to sleep. It is critical that Crane hire the right guy and Gibbons Banister, and Baker wont cut it. Go with Bochy if you cant get Biggio or Ausmus. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Jan 16, 2020 12:17:49 GMT -6
Reports just came out that Carlos Beltrán stepped down as field manager of the New York Metropolitans as per MLB.com.
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Post by paastrosfan on Jan 16, 2020 12:29:52 GMT -6
Reports just came out that Carlos Beltrán stepped down as field manager of the New York Metropolitans as per MLB.com. Well Cora and Beltran can get managing gigs in the PR league. |
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Post by Saint on Jan 16, 2020 12:30:49 GMT -6
An amusing aspect about all of this, is that all of these experienced managers looking to take these open positions likely took part in their own methods of cheating. Yet, there introductions to their respective new teams will include lines like "here to make sure we're maintaining a high level of integrity yada yada yada".
You think Dusty didn't know Bonds was juicing with SFG? Showalter didn't know about A-Rod back in 2003 with Texas?
Not to mention suspicious goo on hats, or corked bats, etc.
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Post by Saint on Jan 16, 2020 12:36:09 GMT -6
And I'll say it right now, this will hurt Beltran's HoF votes. I think he'll probably still get in eventually, but he was probably would have been a 2nd or 3rd try candidate.
It will also hurt fan voting for all-stars for the Astros the next couple years. I doubt any of our position players, deserving or not, get voted in next year. We'll end up with a pitcher and maybe a reserve or two at best. And good luck with anybody getting many MVP votes.
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Post by paastrosfan on Jan 16, 2020 12:38:46 GMT -6
An amusing aspect about all of this, is that all of these experienced managers looking to take these open positions likely took part in their own methods of cheating. Yet, there introductions to their respective new teams will include lines like "here to make sure we're maintaining a high level of integrity yada yada yada". You think Dusty didn't know Bonds was juicing with SFG? Showalter didn't know about A-Rod back in 2003 with Texas? Not to mention suspicious goo on hats, or corked bats, etc. Showalter had the same blunder as Hinch did in a big playoff spot when he had Britton warming up in the pen against the Jays looking on the action. |
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Post by paastrosfan on Jan 16, 2020 12:39:55 GMT -6
And I'll say it right now, this will hurt Beltran's HoF votes. I think he'll probably still get in eventually, but he was probably would have been a 2nd or 3rd try candidate. It will also hurt fan voting for all-stars for the Astros the next couple years. I doubt any of our position players, deserving or not, get voted in next year. We'll end up with a pitcher and maybe a reserve or two at best. And good luck with anybody getting many MVP votes. That is a good point that no one has mentioned. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Jan 16, 2020 12:49:53 GMT -6
An amusing aspect about all of this, is that all of these experienced managers looking to take these open positions likely took part in their own methods of cheating. Yet, there introductions to their respective new teams will include lines like "here to make sure we're maintaining a high level of integrity yada yada yada". You think Dusty didn't know Bonds was juicing with SFG? Showalter didn't know about A-Rod back in 2003 with Texas? Not to mention suspicious goo on hats, or corked bats, etc. Showalter had the same blunder as Hinch did in a big playoff spot when he had Britton warming up in the pen against the Jays looking on the action. You and I are the only ones who’ve mentioned this. |
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Post by Saint on Jan 16, 2020 12:51:50 GMT -6
I remember it, but I wouldn't hold it against him forever. All managers make bad choices now and then.
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Post by paastrosfan on Jan 16, 2020 12:53:41 GMT -6
Showalter had the same blunder as Hinch did in a big playoff spot when he had Britton warming up in the pen against the Jays looking on the action. You and I are the only ones who’ve mentioned this. I missed your post on that. |
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Post by paastrosfan on Jan 16, 2020 12:55:39 GMT -6
I remember it, but I wouldn't hold it against him forever. All managers make bad choices now and then. It is in the big moments when it stands out. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Jan 16, 2020 12:57:41 GMT -6
I remember it, but I wouldn't hold it against him forever. All managers make bad choices now and then. Minus playoff success, the credentials are there for Showalter. Torre did a great job with the Yankees, but Showalter didn’t have a healthy 1B or HOF shortstop to manage. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Jan 16, 2020 13:02:41 GMT -6
My big knock on Hinch was that he was great when the thinking wasn’t highly required. I’ve got my 3-run lead, take out the starter, Harris then Pressly then Osuna, boom boom boom, win. Game 7 was the perfect highlight of his shortcoming. You’ve got the best pitcher in baseball warming up, kill them off, and take the title or lose honorably and understandably. Nope, you lose and lose with a second-best option.
I just want a manager who can successfully blend instinct with analytics i.e. Hinch in the ‘17 postseason.
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Post by Saint on Jan 16, 2020 13:08:37 GMT -6
My big knock on Hinch was that he was great when the thinking wasn’t highly required. I’ve got my 3-run lead, take out the starter, Harris then Pressly then Osuna, boom boom boom, win. Game 7 was the perfect highlight of his shortcoming. You’ve got the best pitcher in baseball warming up, kill them off, and take the title or lose honorably and understandably. Nope, you lose and lose with a second-best option. I just want a manager who can successfully blend instinct with analytics i.e. Hinch in the ‘17 postseason. But you also have to factor in health and other unknown dynamics that they have access to and we don't/won't. (Is a player's head in the game or is he thinking about a fight with his wife, for example?) There could be a lot more to certain moves or non-moves that we don't know about. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Jan 16, 2020 13:54:58 GMT -6
My big knock on Hinch was that he was great when the thinking wasn’t highly required. I’ve got my 3-run lead, take out the starter, Harris then Pressly then Osuna, boom boom boom, win. Game 7 was the perfect highlight of his shortcoming. You’ve got the best pitcher in baseball warming up, kill them off, and take the title or lose honorably and understandably. Nope, you lose and lose with a second-best option. I just want a manager who can successfully blend instinct with analytics i.e. Hinch in the ‘17 postseason. But you also have to factor in health and other unknown dynamics that they have access to and we don't/won't. (Is a player's head in the game or is he thinking about a fight with his wife, for example?) There could be a lot more to certain moves or non-moves that we don't know about. Normally yes, but if your ass is in the bullpen you’d better get ready. All bets are off for a Game 7. No excuses. |
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Post by Saint on Jan 16, 2020 14:29:17 GMT -6
But you also have to factor in health and other unknown dynamics that they have access to and we don't/won't. (Is a player's head in the game or is he thinking about a fight with his wife, for example?) There could be a lot more to certain moves or non-moves that we don't know about. Normally yes, but if your ass is in the bullpen you’d better get ready. All bets are off for a Game 7. No excuses. It's always easy to make decisions from the outside. |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Jan 16, 2020 15:03:21 GMT -6
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Post by abregmanfan on Jan 16, 2020 15:06:37 GMT -6
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Post by abregmanfan on Jan 16, 2020 15:11:03 GMT -6
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Post by thomasj13 on Jan 16, 2020 15:11:44 GMT -6
That right there is funny. |
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