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Post by Saint on Jan 15, 2020 12:22:09 GMT -6
I vote Cora. I think Hinch and Luhnow will work in MLB again. I think Cora is f*cked, and, with his ties to ESPN, he'll get encouraged to write a book.
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Post by sempersmom on Jan 15, 2020 12:35:28 GMT -6
I have a hard time wishing this team well in 2020. They are going to get abused in away games by the fans. They’re cheaters. I don’t think of them as WS champs anymore. Chumps maybe. Cheaters definitely. Then why continue following them? We all have two choices, really: - Be mad, but remain a fan and support the team
- Be mad, unable to get over it, not support the team
Time to make a choice.
I will always support this team. I'm just mad at the players right now. I want an apology but I'm not holding my breath.
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Post by Saint on Jan 15, 2020 12:40:26 GMT -6
Then why continue following them? We all have two choices, really: - Be mad, but remain a fan and support the team
- Be mad, unable to get over it, not support the team
Time to make a choice.
I will always support this team. I'm just mad at the players right now. I want an apology but I'm not holding my breath. A leader on this team (Altuve or JV, maybe) needs to step up and say something.
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Post by abregmanfan on Jan 15, 2020 12:57:51 GMT -6
I will always support this team. I'm just mad at the players right now. I want an apology but I'm not holding my breath. A leader on this team (Altuve or JV, maybe) needs to step up and say something. Crane probably has them on a gag order.
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Post by Saint on Jan 15, 2020 13:01:21 GMT -6
A leader on this team (Altuve or JV, maybe) needs to step up and say something. Crane probably has them on a gag order. Maybe but that's dumb.
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Post by m240 on Jan 15, 2020 13:04:41 GMT -6
Crane probably has them on a gag order. Maybe but that's dumb. Players will do whatever they want. There is no punishment for the big dogs
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Jan 15, 2020 13:51:29 GMT -6
Then why continue following them? We all have two choices, really: - Be mad, but remain a fan and support the team
- Be mad, unable to get over it, not support the team
Time to make a choice.
I will always support this team. I'm just mad at the players right now. I want an apology but I'm not holding my breath. Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much.
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Post by thomasj13 on Jan 15, 2020 14:13:00 GMT -6
I will always support this team. I'm just mad at the players right now. I want an apology but I'm not holding my breath. Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much. I don't hold any grudges against you for all the mean things you have said to me in the past.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2020 14:15:16 GMT -6
Reid Ryan was asked if the Astros sign stealing saga taints the 2017 World Series title. His answer, "That joy that winning in Los Angeles brought will never be taken away."
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Jan 15, 2020 14:18:46 GMT -6
Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much. I don't hold any grudges against you for all the mean things you have said to me in the past. I never said any mean things to you, you ugly lying troglodyte.
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Post by thomasj13 on Jan 15, 2020 14:50:23 GMT -6
I don't hold any grudges against you for all the mean things you have said to me in the past. I never said any mean things to you, you ugly lying troglodyte. I forgive you.
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Post by sempersmom on Jan 15, 2020 15:01:53 GMT -6
I will always support this team. I'm just mad at the players right now. I want an apology but I'm not holding my breath. Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much. They're not my enemies. More like a family member who has let you down.
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Jan 15, 2020 15:10:27 GMT -6
I never said any mean things to you, you ugly lying troglodyte. I forgive you. Am I your enemy?
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Post by abregmanfan on Jan 15, 2020 15:13:23 GMT -6
You don't have an enemy, Kermit.
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Post by bearbryant on Jan 15, 2020 15:31:42 GMT -6
5-10 years from now none of this will matter except to a few salty LAD fans. I don't look at the championship as tainted. They cheated but there is no reason to believe it helped them more than hurt them. We also don't know much it was used or when. It also sounds like other teams were doing similar cheating and just didn't get caught. Also, if teams suspected cheating and didn't do anything to combat it, they were dumb also. I'm disappointed in the players right now, but every team has cheated or has had players that cheated. Do we think every championship team that had a steroid user on it is tainted? No we dont. I The players have lost some of their luster to me, but not the title in 2017 or the pennant in 2019. I don't think the championship is tainted. The crowd was so loud at Game 5 of the World Series who knows if batters thought they heard signals from the tunnel
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Post by marshall on Jan 15, 2020 15:56:08 GMT -6
I have a hard time wishing this team well in 2020. They are going to get abused in away games by the fans. They’re cheaters. I don’t think of them as WS champs anymore. Chumps maybe. Cheaters definitely. Then why continue following them? We all have two choices, really: - Be mad, but remain a fan and support the team
- Be mad, unable to get over it, not support the team
Time to make a choice.
I made my choice. The Astros are the only team in sports that I still follow and I'm not ready to give them up. Following any other team is not a choice for me. It's Astros or nothing.
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Post by Saint on Jan 15, 2020 16:22:53 GMT -6
5-10 years from now none of this will matter except to a few salty LAD fans. I don't look at the championship as tainted. They cheated but there is no reason to believe it helped them more than hurt them. We also don't know much it was used or when. It also sounds like other teams were doing similar cheating and just didn't get caught. Also, if teams suspected cheating and didn't do anything to combat it, they were dumb also. I'm disappointed in the players right now, but every team has cheated or has had players that cheated. Do we think every championship team that had a steroid user on it is tainted? No we dont. I The players have lost some of their luster to me, but not the title in 2017 or the pennant in 2019. I don't think the championship is tainted. The crowd was so loud at Game 5 of the World Series who knows if batters thought they heard signals from the tunnelNope. Unless they want to pull championships from any team that ever had a steroid user on it, there is nothing tainted about this for me. Was a rule broken? Yes. We received a fair punishment to counter that. Time to move on. It's not like we were some type of one season wonder either. We barely missed another 2018 WS appearance (when we stopped using any system), and then we made it again in 2019 when there were no claims of cheating at all. We've got a damn good team that played some amazing baseball. They crossed the line and I believe we'll see others did as well if they look into these claims by Morrison.
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Post by blcoach8 on Jan 15, 2020 17:42:07 GMT -6
Everyone has their right to their opinion. I will back my team 100%. So will I. I don't look at our title as being tainted. Unless a ful scale investigation is done on ALL teams,, this crap handed to the Astros is bullshit and was instigated by the damn media and the Yankees.....MOM IS RIGHT. We won the 2017 World Series......good for us. .
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Post by thomasj13 on Jan 15, 2020 17:54:00 GMT -6
Everyone has their right to their opinion. I will back my team 100%. So will I. I don't look at our title as being tainted. Unless a ful scale investigation is done on ALL teams,, this crap handed to the Astros is bullshit and was instigated by the damn media and the Yankees.....MOM IS RIGHT. We won the 2017 World Series......good for us. . I am revising my viewpoint, if baseball is cheating league wide....then the Astros didn't win in 2017... Nor has any other guilty team who's won a world series..... Only the cities/the fans have won... the players haven't, they're cheaters.... I support Houston...
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Post by churchill on Jan 15, 2020 18:38:13 GMT -6
I will always root for and support the Astros. I'm disappointed in the players, but I am looking forward to the fresh start next season with a new manager and GM. Yes, I know the players lead the cheating scandal but we will never know who was and wasn't involved. Every player, coach and manager had to at least know what was happening. And if they weren't actively participating, they turned a blind eye and were complicit by their silence.
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Post by thomasj13 on Jan 15, 2020 19:33:50 GMT -6
No, far from it, I was just being silly. I think of you as my Ed McMahon
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Jan 15, 2020 19:46:08 GMT -6
No, far from it, I was just being silly. I think of you as my Ed McMahon
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Post by paastrosfan on Jan 15, 2020 19:59:22 GMT -6
I will always root for and support the Astros. I'm disappointed in the players, but I am looking forward to the fresh start next season with a new manager and GM. Yes, I know the players lead the cheating scandal but we will never know who was and wasn't involved. Every player, coach and manager had to at least know what was happening. And if they weren't actively participating, they turned a blind eye and were complicit by their silence. Obviously Jake wasn't in on the scheme.
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Jan 16, 2020 0:54:53 GMT -6
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Post by unionstation82 on Jan 16, 2020 6:21:04 GMT -6
I just hope that guys like Bochy, Molitor, or Berkman get a shot.
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Post by churchill on Jan 16, 2020 7:15:54 GMT -6
LA City Council may ask MLB to declare Dodgers 2017, 2018 champs following Astros, Red Sox cheating probes
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Post by marshall on Jan 16, 2020 7:32:22 GMT -6
There is an easy solution to technological sign stealing. Just let the players on a team communicate electronically rather than through signs like the QBs do in the NFL.
ps A closed system which must be manually reprogrammed rather than wyfi or cloud so it can't be hacked. Mike in the catcher's mask, earwig for the players. Even Mikes on the sideline for the managers and coaches. I'm certain the tech has already been developed for our special forces.
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Post by m240 on Jan 16, 2020 7:38:26 GMT -6
LA City Council may ask MLB to declare Dodgers 2017, 2018 champs following Astros, Red Sox cheating probes
What a bunch of buffoons.
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Post by unionstation82 on Jan 16, 2020 8:00:05 GMT -6
Proof that not all East Coasters are anti-Astros. Take this fellow Jon Hein for example.
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Jan 16, 2020 10:12:41 GMT -6
There is an easy solution to technological sign stealing. Just let the players on a team communicate electronically rather than through signs like the QBs do in the NFL.
ps A closed system which must be manually reprogrammed rather than wyfi or cloud so it can't be hacked. Mike in the catcher's mask, earwig for the players. Even Mikes on the sideline for the managers and coaches. I'm certain the tech has already been developed for our special forces.
who in the heck is Mike?
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