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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Jan 13, 2020 21:06:42 GMT -6
Almost time!
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Post by Saint on Jan 14, 2020 9:35:54 GMT -6
I think all of this drama will make it easier to trade some of our guys if we're obviously not on pace to go to the postseason. Maybe trading Springer, Correa, and Osuna would bring in some fresh young talent while we're dealing with missing out on some draft picks. Not a total rebuild by any means, but a chance to get some younger MLB-ready guys to restock. Springer will be gone anyways, and Correa probably the year after. And who cares about Osuna.
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Post by unionstation82 on Jan 14, 2020 10:16:01 GMT -6
I think all of this drama will make it easier to trade some of our guys if we're obviously not on pace to go to the postseason. Maybe trading Springer, Correa, and Osuna would bring in some fresh young talent while we're dealing with missing out on some draft picks. Not a total rebuild by any means, but a chance to get some younger MLB-ready guys to restock. Springer will be gone anyways, and Correa probably the year after. And who cares about Osuna. If it’s just Altuve and Bregman left, you might as well rebuild.
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Post by Saint on Jan 14, 2020 10:34:36 GMT -6
I think all of this drama will make it easier to trade some of our guys if we're obviously not on pace to go to the postseason. Maybe trading Springer, Correa, and Osuna would bring in some fresh young talent while we're dealing with missing out on some draft picks. Not a total rebuild by any means, but a chance to get some younger MLB-ready guys to restock. Springer will be gone anyways, and Correa probably the year after. And who cares about Osuna. If it’s just Altuve and Bregman left, you might as well rebuild. It's not just them. You'd still have Tucker, Yordan, and Straw to build with too. All of those guys have tremendous upside. Plus Diaz and Toro are good fill-ins.
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Jan 14, 2020 10:34:57 GMT -6
I think all of this drama will make it easier to trade some of our guys if we're obviously not on pace to go to the postseason. Maybe trading Springer, Correa, and Osuna would bring in some fresh young talent while we're dealing with missing out on some draft picks. Not a total rebuild by any means, but a chance to get some younger MLB-ready guys to restock. Springer will be gone anyways, and Correa probably the year after. And who cares about Osuna. If it’s just Altuve and Bregman left, you might as well rebuild. Do you trade those 2 also, then, and do a ground-up rebuild?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2020 11:26:53 GMT -6
If it’s just Altuve and Bregman left, you might as well rebuild. Do you trade those 2 also, then, and do a ground-up rebuild? Yeah, like a new owner.
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Jan 14, 2020 11:39:37 GMT -6
Do you trade those 2 also, then, and do a ground-up rebuild? Yeah, like a new owner. Be careful what you wish for. When we lose Crane and the payroll drops back down the league-worst and we can't win 60 games a season, you may rue the day you called for a new owner.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2020 11:44:45 GMT -6
Be careful what you wish for. When we lose Crane and the payroll drops back down the league-worst and we can't win 60 games a season, you may rue the day you called for a new owner. After this fiasco, who is to say he might not milk it, McLane style?
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Post by Saint on Jan 14, 2020 11:50:54 GMT -6
I have no beef with Crane, so far, based on what we factually know.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2020 12:00:23 GMT -6
I have no beef with Crane, so far, based on what we factually know. You are okay with him firing the best GM in baseaball, based on no evidence he was involved?
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Post by Saint on Jan 14, 2020 12:06:02 GMT -6
I have no beef with Crane, so far, based on what we factually know. You are okay with him firing the best GM in baseaball, based on no evidence he was involved? I'm okay with him firing the guy he hired to run the team that had rampant cheating and failed to even look into it.
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Jan 14, 2020 12:50:35 GMT -6
I just can't understand why Fish is so adamant about everyone from Hinch to Kim Jong Un knowing about the cheating, but he's 100% by GOD certain that Luhnow "no naaathing" (and coincidentally thinks he's "the best GM in the league"...self-serving moralism, man).
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2020 13:06:44 GMT -6
I just can't understand why Fish is so adamant about everyone from Hinch to Kim Jong Un knowing about the cheating, but he's 100% by GOD certain that Luhnow "no naaathing" (and coincidentally thinks he's "the best GM in the league"...self-serving moralism, man). So where did I say 100%? My point is until someone otherwise shows me, I see no proof of Luhnow's guilt. From thrice 110 loss seasons to now, and you discount him as not the best or one of the best GMs? You have gone off the rails man. BTW, you never addressed my point of Crane's proximity to the dugout, and supposedly never heard the bangs?, or now is otherwise shocked? He probably knew more about this shit than Luhnow....
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Jan 14, 2020 13:21:10 GMT -6
A person can rationalize anything, bud. You saw JL as vital to our success, so you'll turn a blind eye to his culpability in this scandal. I get it. We all want to win.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2020 13:30:10 GMT -6
A person can rationalize anything, bud. You saw JL as vital to our success, so you'll turn a blind eye to his culpability in this scandal. I get it. We all want to win. From the report.... "Luhnow adamantly denies knowledge of both the banging scheme and the efforts by the replay review room staff to decode signs and transmit them to the dugout. The investigation revealed no evidence to suggest that Luhnow was aware of the banging scheme. The investigation also revealed that Luhnow neither devised nor actively directed the efforts of the replay review room staff to decode signs in 2017 or 2018. Although Luhnow denies having any awareness that his replay review room staff was decoding and transmitting signs, there is both documentary and testimonial evidence that indicates Luhnow had some knowledge of those efforts, but he did not give it much attention." All teams steal signs. This statement adamantly states he did not have any knowledge of the elaborate system. As far as he knew, the sign stealing may have been consistent with what all other teams do. (Visual & hand signs). Again you are having problems discerning the culpabilty vs. accountibility thing, I get it. Still care to commnet on Crane box behind home plater, and proximity to the dugout? And not being able to notice banging trash cans a little more than a 100 feet away? If you are going to damn this organization, and preach the accountability/ culpability thing ..... Start from the stop.
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Post by paastrosfan on Jan 14, 2020 13:31:23 GMT -6
I think all of this drama will make it easier to trade some of our guys if we're obviously not on pace to go to the postseason. Maybe trading Springer, Correa, and Osuna would bring in some fresh young talent while we're dealing with missing out on some draft picks. Not a total rebuild by any means, but a chance to get some younger MLB-ready guys to restock. Springer will be gone anyways, and Correa probably the year after. And who cares about Osuna. If it’s just Altuve and Bregman left, you might as well rebuild. If you trade away the core the team might end up being what happened to KC after the 2015 season. In their situation the really core player they signed long term was Alex Gordon.
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Post by abregmanfan on Jan 14, 2020 14:12:39 GMT -6
If it’s just Altuve and Bregman left, you might as well rebuild. It's not just them. You'd still have Tucker, Yordan, and Straw to build with too. All of those guys have tremendous upside. Plus Diaz and Toro are good fill-ins. We still have Whitley...
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Post by paastrosfan on Jan 14, 2020 14:45:53 GMT -6
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Post by thomasj13 on Jan 14, 2020 15:12:15 GMT -6
It's not just them. You'd still have Tucker, Yordan, and Straw to build with too. All of those guys have tremendous upside. Plus Diaz and Toro are good fill-ins. We still have Whitley... Stromfather
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Post by unionstation82 on Jan 14, 2020 15:13:06 GMT -6
If it’s just Altuve and Bregman left, you might as well rebuild. It's not just them. You'd still have Tucker, Yordan, and Straw to build with too. All of those guys have tremendous upside. Plus Diaz and Toro are good fill-ins. There are question marks with each. The upside is there, especially with Yordan, but losing two of your Core Four, your closer, and Harris to free agency and for prospects is kind of a rebuild to me.
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Post by unionstation82 on Jan 14, 2020 15:14:56 GMT -6
If it’s just Altuve and Bregman left, you might as well rebuild. Do you trade those 2 also, then, and do a ground-up rebuild? Not sure but I more likely would if they traded the players Todd mentioned.
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Post by abregmanfan on Jan 14, 2020 15:49:18 GMT -6
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Post by Saint on Jan 14, 2020 15:53:28 GMT -6
It's not just them. You'd still have Tucker, Yordan, and Straw to build with too. All of those guys have tremendous upside. Plus Diaz and Toro are good fill-ins. There are question marks with each. The upside is there, especially with Yordan, but losing two of your Core Four, your closer, and Harris to free agency and for prospects is kind of a rebuild to me. Sure. Just not a full. But remember how much money gets freed up by these moves plus Reddick, Brantley, and Gurriel gone after next year. You can sign free agents in the offseason as well. We're looking at a partial rebuild after next season anyways. Besides, this would only be if we were not looking good before the trade deadline.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2020 16:01:30 GMT -6
It's not just them. You'd still have Tucker, Yordan, and Straw to build with too. All of those guys have tremendous upside. Plus Diaz and Toro are good fill-ins. We still have Whitley... Maybe Crane can hire. him for GM.
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Post by olpapa on Jan 24, 2020 14:44:30 GMT -6
I see where the Orioles signed one of our old farm hands. Brady Rodgers. I wish him the best.
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Post by olpapa on Jan 24, 2020 15:30:28 GMT -6
Here are the non-roster spring training invitees listed on the Astros.com website:
Pitchers - Brandon Bielak RH Dean Deetz RH Riley Ferrell RH Ralph Garza RH Ryan Hartman LH Brendan McCurry RH Andre Scrubb RH Forrest Whitley RH
Catchers - Lorenzo Quintana Jamie Ritchie Chuckie Robinson
Infielders - Alex DeGoti Osvaldo Duarte Jeremy Pena Nick Tanielu
Outfielders - Ronnie Dawson Drew Ferguson Chas McCormack Stephen Wrenn
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Post by abregmanfan on Jan 24, 2020 16:14:24 GMT -6
Here are the non-roster spring training invitees listed on the Astros.com website: Pitchers - Brandon Bielak RH Dean Deetz RH Riley Ferrell RH Ralph Garza RH Ryan Hartman LH Brendan McCurry RH Andre Scrubb RH Forrest Whitley RH Catchers - Lorenzo Quintana Jamie Ritchie Chuckie Robinson Infielders - Alex DeGoti Osvaldo Duarte Jeremy Pena Nick Tanielu Outfielders - Ronnie Dawson Drew Ferguson Chas McCormack Stephen Wrenn Glad to see Riley on the list.
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Post by olpapa on Jan 24, 2020 19:25:10 GMT -6
Of the non-roster invitees I think Bielak and Whitley have a chance to contribute at the ML level this season. I’m curious to see how Jamie Ritchie does. You don’t hear much about him, but he has hit well at every level in the minors and put up decent CS %. He finished really strong at AAA last season. I also am interested in seeing how the Scrubb we got from the Dodgers for White does.
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Post by abregmanfan on Jan 24, 2020 21:47:25 GMT -6
Of the non-roster invitees I think Bielak and Whitley have a chance to contribute at the ML level this season. I’m curious to see how Jamie Ritchie does. You don’t hear much about him, but he has hit well at every level in the minors and put up decent CS %. He finished really strong at AAA last season. I also am interested in seeing how the Scrubb we got from the Dodgers for White does. I would love to see Dawson make it.
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Post by olpapa on Mar 29, 2020 18:05:54 GMT -6
Farm Alert!!!
The ground finally dried up enough that I could break up my garden spot and plant a small garden this weekend. I planted five 60’ long rows of purple hull peas; 33 hills of okra; 6 hills of watermelons; 1 hill of cantaloupe; 7 hills of cucumbers; 2 zucchini; 3 yellow squash; 1 broccoli plant; 27 tomato plants and 26 pepper plants.
That’s all Ol Papa has to report from the farm.
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