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Post by Saint on Feb 28, 2020 12:59:03 GMT -6
So McHugh is cleared to start throwing. Do you take a gamble on him for say.... $2.5 million guaranteed and then some incentives?
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Feb 28, 2020 14:36:49 GMT -6
Probably...but would he take it? He seems like he's been mad at us since he was removed from the starting roster.
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Post by Saint on Feb 28, 2020 14:41:41 GMT -6
I guess it depends on whatever offer he gets.
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Post by blcoach8 on Feb 28, 2020 15:08:04 GMT -6
I guess it depends on whatever offer he gets. If he has had other offers, I haven't seen it anywhere. I don't understand why we didn't invite him to ST. |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Feb 28, 2020 15:09:29 GMT -6
I guess it depends on whatever offer he gets. If he has had other offers, I haven't seen it anywhere. I don't understand why we didn't invite him to ST.Because he's a free agent... |
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Post by blcoach8 on Feb 28, 2020 16:08:32 GMT -6
If he has had other offers, I haven't seen it anywhere. I don't understand why we didn't invite him to ST.Because he's a free agent... I knew he was a free agent but I don't think any team has tried to sign him. We should have at least invited him to ST. |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Feb 28, 2020 20:15:09 GMT -6
Because he's a free agent... I knew he was a free agent but I don't think any team has tried to sign him. We should have at least invited him to ST. They would have to sign him to a contract for him to come to ST. Minor league contract, at the least. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Feb 28, 2020 23:32:17 GMT -6
Every year they seem to do this thing where they jerk guys like McHugh and Peacock around with the relief and starter roles. They’re both better as relievers. I wish they’d have stuck to that.
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Post by blcoach8 on Feb 28, 2020 23:56:06 GMT -6
Every year they seem to do this thing where they jerk guys like McHugh and Peacock around with the relief and starter roles. They’re both better as relievers. I wish they’d have stuck to that. I agree.....both are better at relief. We should have made an effort to keep McHugh. |
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Post by Hunter McCormick on Feb 29, 2020 19:26:32 GMT -6
I knew he was a free agent but I don't think any team has tried to sign him. We should have at least invited him to ST. They would have to sign him to a contract for him to come to ST. Minor league contract, at the least. This ^ I'm almost certain it's a MLB requirement due to liability and insurance concerns but even if it wasn't mandated by MLB, it would be a horrible mistake for any team to allow a player to participate on their team in ST without a contract. In addition to the player not being covered by MLB insurance and the liability the team might face due to litigation if the player was injured, the team would have absolutely no say in whether other teams could be negotiating with the player for a contract during the time when the player was working out with team. Oh, and if anyone is interested in the article on McHugh: www.mlbtraderumors.com/2020/02/collin-mchugh-rumors-free-agent-throwing-elbow.html |
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Post by blcoach8 on Feb 29, 2020 22:02:52 GMT -6
They would have to sign him to a contract for him to come to ST. Minor league contract, at the least. This ^ I'm almost certain it's a MLB requirement due to liability and insurance concerns but even if it wasn't mandated by MLB, it would be a horrible mistake for any team to allow a player to participate on their team in ST without a contract. In addition to the player not being covered by MLB insurance and the liability the team might face due to litigation if the player was injured, the team would have absolutely no say in whether other teams could be negotiating with the player for a contract during the time when the player was working out with team. Oh, and if anyone is interested in the article on McHugh: www.mlbtraderumors.com/2020/02/collin-mchugh-rumors-free-agent-throwing-elbow.htmlGood article. I didn't realize he was that far behind in being ready to pitch. I remember the good job he did for us out of the pen.Plus he won 19 games for us in 2015. I would like to see us sign him as strictly a reliever. |
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Post by Hunter McCormick on Mar 1, 2020 9:52:40 GMT -6
Good article. I didn't realize he was that far behind in being ready to pitch. I remember the good job he did for us out of the pen.Plus he won 19 games for us in 2015. I would like to see us sign him as strictly a reliever. I think he wouldn't have the opportunity to compete for a slot in the rotation on the Astros and that might be deal-breaker. I don't know what his aspirations are but the reality is: there's a much higher salary ceiling for a starter than a reliever. A just-average starter can command a higher salary than a good (but not elite) reliever. During his tenure as a player under team control, he pretty much had to accept whatever role he was assigned and play for the team who owned his contract. Now that he's FA, he can go to any team who is willing to offer him the opportunity he wants. He might be willing to settle for a one-year deal at a low price if that includes a shot at a starting role. If he establishes his worth during this year, he could position himself to negotiate for a decent salary on reasonably long contract. If he's looking for a chance at starting, maybe the Red Sox? idk. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Mar 1, 2020 10:03:06 GMT -6
Good article. I didn't realize he was that far behind in being ready to pitch. I remember the good job he did for us out of the pen.Plus he won 19 games for us in 2015. I would like to see us sign him as strictly a reliever. I think he wouldn't have the opportunity to compete for a slot in the rotation on the Astros and that might be deal-breaker. I don't know what his aspirations are but the reality is: there's a much higher salary ceiling for a starter than a reliever. A just-average starter can command a higher salary than a good (but not elite) reliever. During his tenure as a player under team control, he pretty much had to accept whatever role he was assigned and play for the team who owned his contract. Now that he's FA, he can go to any team who is willing to offer him the opportunity he wants. He might be willing to settle for a one-year deal at a low price if that includes a shot at a starting role. If he establishes his worth during this year, he could position himself to negotiate for a decent salary on reasonably long contract. If he's looking for a chance at starting, maybe the Red Sox? idk. He’s got to know what he is right now. He had a career year in 2015, almost winning 20, but his stuff plays up as a reliever even though he relies on a curveball. There’s a big difference in throwing 91-92 mph vs. 95-96 mph. He isn’t young anymore either so he’s got to make up his mind. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Mar 1, 2020 13:07:27 GMT -6
I think he wouldn't have the opportunity to compete for a slot in the rotation on the Astros and that might be deal-breaker. I don't know what his aspirations are but the reality is: there's a much higher salary ceiling for a starter than a reliever. A just-average starter can command a higher salary than a good (but not elite) reliever. During his tenure as a player under team control, he pretty much had to accept whatever role he was assigned and play for the team who owned his contract. Now that he's FA, he can go to any team who is willing to offer him the opportunity he wants. He might be willing to settle for a one-year deal at a low price if that includes a shot at a starting role. If he establishes his worth during this year, he could position himself to negotiate for a decent salary on reasonably long contract. If he's looking for a chance at starting, maybe the Red Sox? idk. He’s got to know what he is right now. He had a career year in 2015, almost winning 20, but his stuff plays up as a reliever even though he relies on a curveball. There’s a big difference in throwing 91-92 mph vs. 95-96 mph. He isn’t young anymore either so he’s got to make up his mind. I can see him getting a chance to start for a team that really needs one.....Boston could be one team. I still think the bullpen is the place for him and he could help us if things worked out so that he returned. |
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Post by Hunter McCormick on Mar 2, 2020 15:18:59 GMT -6
I can see him getting a chance to start for a team that really needs one.....Boston could be one team. I still think the bullpen is the place for him and he could help us if things worked out so that he returned. I haven't read any news indicating whether or not he's trying for a situation where he'd be used as a starter. If he is, and gets a rotation spot somewhere, who knows how that will work out? Maybe fizzle or maybe he'll be another Rich Hill. If he's be satisfied with a relief role, I agree. I think he'd be a great addition to the Astros' pen.
In other news, ST is still in the early stages and sample sizes are tiny. But Brantley and Straw are crushing it so yay for that! |
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Post by blcoach8 on Mar 2, 2020 15:38:24 GMT -6
I can see him getting a chance to start for a team that really needs one.....Boston could be one team. I still think the bullpen is the place for him and he could help us if things worked out so that he returned. I haven't read any news indicating whether or not he's trying for a situation where he'd be used as a starter. If he is, and gets a rotation spot somewhere, who knows how that will work out? Maybe fizzle or maybe he'll be another Rich Hill. If he's be satisfied with a relief role, I agree. I think he'd be a great addition to the Astros' pen.
In other news, ST is still in the early stages and sample sizes are tiny. But Brantley and Straw are crushing it so yay for that! I doubt if Straw gets sent back to AAA this time. |
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Post by Saint on Mar 2, 2020 17:06:17 GMT -6
There was an article that Straw was in a battle for the 26th spot. I find that hard to believe given that we got rid of Joke, thankfully. Straw seems like the easy candidate to take over that role (or more so).
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Post by blcoach8 on Mar 2, 2020 18:00:41 GMT -6
There was an article that Straw was in a battle for the 26th spot. I find that hard to believe given that we got rid of Joke, thankfully. Straw seems like the easy candidate to take over that role (or more so). I think he has a spot......My guess is Toro is in a battle for the last spot with another player. |
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Post by olpapa on Mar 2, 2020 19:07:07 GMT -6
There was an article that Straw was in a battle for the 26th spot. I find that hard to believe given that we got rid of Joke, thankfully. Straw seems like the easy candidate to take over that role (or more so). If it is the same article I read, Straw and Stubbs are supposedly battling for the final roster spot. That article assumes that Garneau is going to be the backup catcher behind Maldanado. If that is the case, I can’t see them keeping Stubbs instead of Straw on the 26-man roster. Concerning Stubbs, if he is not ready to fill the role of at least a backup catcher at the ML level, he never will be. I didn’t understand the Garneau signing when it occurred and I still don’t. If Garneau still had an option left, it would make more sense. |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Mar 2, 2020 19:52:25 GMT -6
Tucker is 0-13 going into today. Someone remind me why we didn't trade this loser when we had the chance.
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Post by blcoach8 on Mar 2, 2020 20:10:04 GMT -6
Tucker is 0-13 going into today. Someone remind me why we didn't trade this loser when we had the chance. because Luhnow loved him. I thought he would come around but I have my doubts |
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Post by thomasj13 on Mar 2, 2020 20:58:21 GMT -6
Tucker is 0-13 going into today. Someone remind me why we didn't trade this loser when we had the chance. Corch's quick hook is rubbing off on you. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Mar 2, 2020 23:05:22 GMT -6
Tucker is 0-13 going into today. Someone remind me why we didn't trade this loser when we had the chance. Corch's quick hook is rubbing off on you. With Tucker’s long swings, he’s gonna need trashcans. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Mar 2, 2020 23:37:54 GMT -6
Corch's quick hook is rubbing off on you. With Tucker’s long swings, he’s gonna need trashcans. A competent hitting coach would have fixed that swing or been caught trying. |
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Post by olpapa on Mar 3, 2020 7:44:01 GMT -6
With Tucker’s long swings, he’s gonna need trashcans. A competent hitting coach would have fixed that swing or been caught trying. Not to worry. The geek squad in analytics will develop a computer program to fix him. |
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Post by Saint on Mar 3, 2020 8:26:56 GMT -6
I'd be more worried about Tucker if he hadn't performed pretty well last season.
Although I'd still trade him for the right pitcher.
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Post by Saint on Mar 3, 2020 8:27:44 GMT -6
There was an article that Straw was in a battle for the 26th spot. I find that hard to believe given that we got rid of Joke, thankfully. Straw seems like the easy candidate to take over that role (or more so). If it is the same article I read, Straw and Stubbs are supposedly battling for the final roster spot. That article assumes that Garneau is going to be the backup catcher behind Maldanado. If that is the case, I can’t see them keeping Stubbs instead of Straw on the 26-man roster. Concerning Stubbs, if he is not ready to fill the role of at least a backup catcher at the ML level, he never will be. I didn’t understand the Garneau signing when it occurred and I still don’t. If Garneau still had an option left, it would make more sense. When they signed Garneau I think they were concerned they wouldn't be able to get/afford a better option. |
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Post by olpapa on Mar 3, 2020 8:46:18 GMT -6
If it is the same article I read, Straw and Stubbs are supposedly battling for the final roster spot. That article assumes that Garneau is going to be the backup catcher behind Maldanado. If that is the case, I can’t see them keeping Stubbs instead of Straw on the 26-man roster. Concerning Stubbs, if he is not ready to fill the role of at least a backup catcher at the ML level, he never will be. I didn’t understand the Garneau signing when it occurred and I still don’t. If Garneau still had an option left, it would make more sense. When they signed Garneau I think they were concerned they wouldn't be able to get/afford a better option. This from Cots on Garneau’s contract: “Dustin Garneau c 1 year/$650,000 (2020) 1 year/$650,000 (2020) signed by Houston as a free agent 11/27/19 (split contract, $300,000 in minors, $100,000 guarantee)” Does this mean that only $100,000 of Garneau’s contract is guaranteed? |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Mar 3, 2020 9:24:33 GMT -6
Tucker is 0-13 going into today. Someone remind me why we didn't trade this loser when we had the chance. Corch's quick hook is rubbing off on you. 3 or 4 years isn't exactly a quick hook, son. |
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Post by olpapa on Mar 3, 2020 9:45:43 GMT -6
Corch's quick hook is rubbing off on you. 3 or 4 years isn't exactly a quick hook, son. If reports can be believed, we could have had Yelich, but Luhnow refused to give up Tucker or Whitley. I wish we could have that one back. |
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