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Post by unionstation82 on Aug 8, 2020 19:28:26 GMT -6
Where is his laser arm or his consistency? He has neither. Mookie got way more than he is worth. We will have to pay to keep George. He is worth more than Altuve or Bregman. Now, I will be hammered for that but I believe Springer is worth more to the Astros than Altuve or Bregman. Whoa, let’s not get crazy. I love Springer, but he’s not more valuable than those two. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Aug 8, 2020 19:42:19 GMT -6
Mookie got way more than he is worth. We will have to pay to keep George. He is worth more than Altuve or Bregman. Now, I will be hammered for that but I believe Springer is worth more to the Astros than Altuve or Bregman. Whoa, let’s not get crazy. I love Springer, but he’s not more valuable than those two. Our offense suffers more when he is out than when we are without any other player. check the stats. We increased our lead last year when Altuve was out.....We did much worse without George. Our offense sputters like it is now without Springer in the lineup. That is why I say George is more valuable to the team. Altuve and Bregman are very important,but, not more important to our offense than George. He MUST be re-signed if at all possible. I had rather have Springer than an asshole like Betts. He can take a knee during the anthem in LA. I also wish Crane would tell Dusty to stop wearing that damn BLM shirt when he is interviewed. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Aug 8, 2020 20:02:23 GMT -6
Whoa, let’s not get crazy. I love Springer, but he’s not more valuable than those two. Our offense suffers more when he is out than when we are without any other player. check the stats. We increased our lead last year when Altuve was out.....We did much worse without George. Our offense sputters like it is now without Springer in the lineup. That is why I say George is more valuable to the team. Altuve and Bregman are very important,but, not more important to our offense than George. He MUST be re-signed if at all possible. I had rather have Springer than an asshole like Betts. He can take a knee during the anthem in LA. I also wish Crane would tell Dusty to stop wearing that damn BLM shirt when he is interviewed. The problem is the team doesn’t have a prototypical leadoff man so they stick an imposing force like George at the spot because pitchers fear his power. We can afford this because of the many stars we have in the lineup at full strength. I can’t say that winning more without Altuve is an indictment against him or more the offense finally doing what they’re paid to do. I don’t much care for Betts, but he’s simply a better player than Springer. He’s faster, can steal bases, can hit as many homers, can hit more consistently and for average, and has a rocket arm in the outfield. Someone will pay George a lot of money, but if he wants Betts money, he can keep dreaming. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Aug 8, 2020 21:52:15 GMT -6
Our offense suffers more when he is out than when we are without any other player. check the stats. We increased our lead last year when Altuve was out.....We did much worse without George. Our offense sputters like it is now without Springer in the lineup. That is why I say George is more valuable to the team. Altuve and Bregman are very important,but, not more important to our offense than George. He MUST be re-signed if at all possible. I had rather have Springer than an asshole like Betts. He can take a knee during the anthem in LA. I also wish Crane would tell Dusty to stop wearing that damn BLM shirt when he is interviewed. The problem is the team doesn’t have a prototypical leadoff man so they stick an imposing force like George at the spot because pitchers fear his power. We can afford this because of the many stars we have in the lineup at full strength. I can’t say that winning more without Altuve is an indictment against him or more the offense finally doing what they’re paid to do. I don’t much care for Betts, but he’s simply a better player than Springer. He’s faster, can steal bases, can hit as many homers, can hit more consistently and for average, and has a rocket arm in the outfield. Someone will pay George a lot of money, but if he wants Betts money, he can keep dreaming. When I judge a player I admit to being swayed by my opinion of him as a person and I think Betts is a piece of shit and that is one reason I had rather have Springer. Springer is a good guy.....Betts is an asshole. I agree with your take on why George is our leadoff hitter. Altuve is too impatient and undisciplined to lead off. If Straw could hit something besides popups, he would be a good leadoff guy. I don't like Tucker leading off. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Aug 9, 2020 10:50:54 GMT -6
The problem is the team doesn’t have a prototypical leadoff man so they stick an imposing force like George at the spot because pitchers fear his power. We can afford this because of the many stars we have in the lineup at full strength. I can’t say that winning more without Altuve is an indictment against him or more the offense finally doing what they’re paid to do. I don’t much care for Betts, but he’s simply a better player than Springer. He’s faster, can steal bases, can hit as many homers, can hit more consistently and for average, and has a rocket arm in the outfield. Someone will pay George a lot of money, but if he wants Betts money, he can keep dreaming. When I judge a player I admit to being swayed by my opinion of him as a person and I think Betts is a piece of shit and that is one reason I had rather have Springer. Springer is a good guy.....Betts is an asshole. I agree with your take on why George is our leadoff hitter. Altuve is too impatient and undisciplined to lead off. If Straw could hit something besides popups, he would be a good leadoff guy. I don't like Tucker leading off. I don’t like Tucker leading off either, but I think he’s one of the best options of the hitters to lead off because of the speed he possesses. He’s also calm at the plate despite the lack of George-like results. He’s also one of the faster players, maybe even as fast as Altuve, because of the bigger wheels (Altuve has little legs). He can also steal bases. They’re all just making do for the time being until they wake up. Betts May be an asshole to you, but it is fact that he’s a better player than Springer. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Aug 9, 2020 11:26:24 GMT -6
When I judge a player I admit to being swayed by my opinion of him as a person and I think Betts is a piece of shit and that is one reason I had rather have Springer. Springer is a good guy.....Betts is an asshole. I agree with your take on why George is our leadoff hitter. Altuve is too impatient and undisciplined to lead off. If Straw could hit something besides popups, he would be a good leadoff guy. I don't like Tucker leading off. I don’t like Tucker leading off either, but I think he’s one of the best options of the hitters to lead off because of the speed he possesses. He’s also calm at the plate despite the lack of George-like results. He’s also one of the faster players, maybe even as fast as Altuve, because of the bigger wheels (Altuve has little legs). He can also steal bases. They’re all just making do for the time being until they wake up. Betts May be an asshole to you, but it is fact that he’s a better player than Springer. We each have our opinion. I'd take Springer over Betts any day due to the difference in attitude and character. Those two traits are important to me. I was thrilled when we didn't get Bryce Harper for the same reasons I don 't like Betts. I never liked having Carlos Gomez because I knew he was a piece of crap and a loose cannon who could go off at any time. In the Osuna deal, we traded a nut job for a guy with questionable character due to the accusations against Osuna for beating a woman.......allegations which were never proven and charges were never pursued. Greinke is sort of recluse but I don't classify him as an asshole. The closest thing we have to an asshole on the roster is Bregman, but, I can look over that because he busts his ass on every play. |
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Post by Saint on Aug 9, 2020 13:25:24 GMT -6
Betts is in the top-5 players in all of baseball.
Springer is in the top-50. When he manages to stay on the field...
Big difference.
(I like Springer though and he is a postseason badass. He just ain't worth close to Betts at this point.)
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Post by blcoach8 on Aug 9, 2020 13:43:44 GMT -6
Betts is in the top-5 players in all of baseball. Springer is in the top-50. When he manages to stay on the field... Big difference. (I like Springer though and he is a postseason badass. He just ain't worth close to Betts at this point.) You can have the low-class, overpaid, disrespectul piece of shit who kneels during the anthem and proudly supports BLM. l wouldn't have the sorry son of a bitch on my roster. Screw Mookie Betts. Betts has spent quite a bit of time on the IL,too. |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Aug 9, 2020 14:07:25 GMT -6
In case you’ve never seen “utterly retarded” before...there it is.
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Post by unionstation82 on Aug 9, 2020 14:41:16 GMT -6
Betts is in the top-5 players in all of baseball. Springer is in the top-50. When he manages to stay on the field... Big difference. (I like Springer though and he is a postseason badass. He just ain't worth close to Betts at this point.) You can have the low-class, overpaid, disrespectul piece of shit who kneels during the anthem and proudly supports BLM. l wouldn't have the sorry son of a bitch on my roster. Screw Mookie Betts. Betts has spent quite a bit of time on the IL,too. The bottom line is winning, and Betts gives you a greater chance for that than Springer. |
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Post by Saint on Aug 9, 2020 14:56:10 GMT -6
Betts is in the top-5 players in all of baseball. Springer is in the top-50. When he manages to stay on the field... Big difference. (I like Springer though and he is a postseason badass. He just ain't worth close to Betts at this point.) Not counting their rookie seasons, Betts has averaged a 148 games a season and George 124... I'm not talking about their beliefs. I'm talking about their talent and production. Betts is just better. It's not knock on George; just the facts. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Aug 9, 2020 15:14:06 GMT -6
In case you’ve never seen “utterly retarded” before...there it is. So. it is "retarded" to prefer a guy with class and character over a disrespectful piece of shit who disrespects the flag and the country? |
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Post by blcoach8 on Aug 9, 2020 15:17:05 GMT -6
You can have the low-class, overpaid, disrespectul piece of shit who kneels during the anthem and proudly supports BLM. l wouldn't have the sorry son of a bitch on my roster. Screw Mookie Betts. Betts has spent quite a bit of time on the IL,too. The bottom line is winning, and Betts gives you a greater chance for that than Springer. So. since the bottom line is winning, you must be OK with us having it proven that we stole signs to win the 2017 World Series. If character and integrity doesn't mean as much as winning, you must be OK with cheating. I am not OK with cheating nor am I OK with paying millions of dollars to a disrespectful piece of shit who wears BLM shirts and takes a knee during the anthem. This BLM crap has gotten out of hand and needs to be stopped. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Aug 9, 2020 15:18:56 GMT -6
Betts is in the top-5 players in all of baseball. Springer is in the top-50. When he manages to stay on the field... Big difference. (I like Springer though and he is a postseason badass. He just ain't worth close to Betts at this point.) Not counting their rookie seasons, Betts has averaged a 148 games a season and George 124... I'm not talking about their beliefs. I'm talking about their talent and production. Betts is just better. It's not knock on George; just the facts. I see your point about the numbers, but, given the difference in the character of the two players, I would take George without hesitating. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Aug 9, 2020 15:18:58 GMT -6
The bottom line is winning, and Betts gives you a greater chance for that than Springer. So. since the bottom line is winning, you must be OK with us having it proven that we stole signs to win the 2017 World Series. If character and integrity doesn't mean as much as winning, you must be OK with cheating. I am not OK with cheating nor am I OK with paying millions of dollars to a disrespectful piece of shit who wears BLM shirts and takes a knee during the anthem. This BLM crap has gotten out of hand and needs to be stopped. Did you want to have their title stripped? Also, if you’re going to be on a high horse about cheating, you should want Springer gone then unless you’re saying he didn’t benefit from the sign stealing. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Aug 9, 2020 15:30:03 GMT -6
So. since the bottom line is winning, you must be OK with us having it proven that we stole signs to win the 2017 World Series. If character and integrity doesn't mean as much as winning, you must be OK with cheating. I am not OK with cheating nor am I OK with paying millions of dollars to a disrespectful piece of shit who wears BLM shirts and takes a knee during the anthem. This BLM crap has gotten out of hand and needs to be stopped. Did you want to have their title stripped? No. The main reason I don't is the fact that we won more road games than at home and there was supposedly no sign stealing on the road. There have been lots of great players in all sports who are not good people. If you or others don't mind having a guy with no class or character on your team, that is your right. I just don't want people like Betts who disrespect the flag and country. For that reason, I prefer people like Springer. Professional sports is being ruined by this BLM mess and taking a knee during the anthem. The NBA and NFL's ratings are dropping like a lead balloon because of that shit and I don't want baseball destroyed by it, too. There is no way of proving which players used the sign stealing and who didn't .......Altuve is supposed to not have used it, but, we don't know that. If he didn't, he is doing a great job now of making it look like he did. I don't want to get rid of any of our players over that scandal,but, I also wouldn't add somebody with Betts' values to the roster no matter what numbers he put up. If I had an NBA team, the last player I'd want is Lebron James. I am not on a "high horse"......just stating my opinion. The fact that somebody thinks it's "retarded" doesn't bother me in the least. I consider the source. |
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Post by Saint on Aug 9, 2020 15:39:10 GMT -6
Not counting their rookie seasons, Betts has averaged a 148 games a season and George 124... I'm not talking about their beliefs. I'm talking about their talent and production. Betts is just better. It's not knock on George; just the facts. I see your point about the numbers, but, given the difference in the character of the two players, I would take George without hesitating. And that's fine, but it doesn't make Springer better or worth close to the money that Betts is getting. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Aug 9, 2020 15:39:52 GMT -6
Did you want to have their title stripped? No. The main reason I don't is the fact that we won more road games than at home and there was supposedly no sign stealing on the road. There have been lots of great players in all sports who are not good people. If you or others don't mind having a guy with no class or character on your team, that is your right. I just don't want people like Betts who disrespect the flag and country. For that reason, I prefer people like Springer. Professional sports is being ruined by this BLM mess and taking a knee during the anthem. The NBA and NFL's ratings are dropping like a lead balloon because of that shit and I don't want baseball destroyed by it, too. There is no way of proving which players used the sign stealing and who didn't .......Altuve is supposed to not have used it, but, we don't know that. If he didn't, he is doing a great job now of making it look like he did. I don't want to get rid of any of our players over that scandal,but, I also wouldn't add somebody with Betts' values to the roster no matter what numbers he put up. If I had an NBA team, the last player I'd want is Lebron James. I am not on a "high horse"......just stating my opinion. The fact that somebody thinks it's "retarded" doesn't bother me in the least. I consider the source. So, then you’re okay with us being proven cheaters? Springer was part of the team. Are you okay with his integrity? |
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Post by marshall on Aug 9, 2020 16:13:22 GMT -6
Betts is in the top-5 players in all of baseball. Springer is in the top-50. When he manages to stay on the field... Big difference. (I like Springer though and he is a postseason badass. He just ain't worth close to Betts at this point.) Not counting their rookie seasons, Betts has averaged a 148 games a season and George 124... I'm not talking about their beliefs. I'm talking about their talent and production. Betts is just better. It's not knock on George; just the facts. All the talent in the world won't overcome TRAITOR. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Aug 9, 2020 16:13:23 GMT -6
I see your point about the numbers, but, given the difference in the character of the two players, I would take George without hesitating. And that's fine, but it doesn't make Springer better or worth close to the money that Betts is getting. Betts is not worth the money Betts is getting. Springer may not be worth the contract some team will give him. I just hope it's the Astros that gives it to him. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Aug 9, 2020 16:15:51 GMT -6
No. The main reason I don't is the fact that we won more road games than at home and there was supposedly no sign stealing on the road. There have been lots of great players in all sports who are not good people. If you or others don't mind having a guy with no class or character on your team, that is your right. I just don't want people like Betts who disrespect the flag and country. For that reason, I prefer people like Springer. Professional sports is being ruined by this BLM mess and taking a knee during the anthem. The NBA and NFL's ratings are dropping like a lead balloon because of that shit and I don't want baseball destroyed by it, too. There is no way of proving which players used the sign stealing and who didn't .......Altuve is supposed to not have used it, but, we don't know that. If he didn't, he is doing a great job now of making it look like he did. I don't want to get rid of any of our players over that scandal,but, I also wouldn't add somebody with Betts' values to the roster no matter what numbers he put up. If I had an NBA team, the last player I'd want is Lebron James. I am not on a "high horse"......just stating my opinion. The fact that somebody thinks it's "retarded" doesn't bother me in the least. I consider the source. So, then you’re okay with us being proven cheaters? Springer was part of the team. Are you okay with his integrity? As I said, there is no way to prove which players cheated and which ones didn't. We have some who swear they didn't. I have never heard George be personally accused nor have I heard him deny it. It was proven the TEAM cheated.......NOTHING was proven regarding individual players. Just because the info was available to all of them, doesn't mean they all used it. i have seen with my own eyes the shit Betts has pulled taking a knee during the anthem and wearing that damn BLM shirt. There is no denying that. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Aug 9, 2020 16:18:23 GMT -6
So, then you’re okay with us being proven cheaters? Springer was part of the team. Are you okay with his integrity? As I said, there is no way to prove which players cheated and which ones didn't. We have some who swear they didn't. I have never heard George be personally accused nor have I heard him deny it. It was proven the TEAM cheated.......NOTHING was proven regarding individual players. Just because the info was available to all of them, doesn't mean they all used it. What do you think the odds were that there were lots of players not wanting to benefit from this Holy Grail of cheating information? So far, the only one who seems to be exonerated from the practice was Altuve, whose main fault was in not joining Hinch to derail the cheating. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Aug 9, 2020 16:22:06 GMT -6
As I said, there is no way to prove which players cheated and which ones didn't. We have some who swear they didn't. I have never heard George be personally accused nor have I heard him deny it. It was proven the TEAM cheated.......NOTHING was proven regarding individual players. Just because the info was available to all of them, doesn't mean they all used it. What do you think the odds were that there were lots of players not wanting to benefit from this Holy Grail of cheating information? So far, the only one who seems to be exonerated from the practice was Altuve, whose main fault was in not joining Hinch to derail the cheating. Considering the way he has swung the bat this season, I am not sure we can totally exonerate Altuve. I don't think we can exonerate George or any of them. Neither can we prove any of them totally guilty. If I was betting on it, I'd bet all of them took advantage of the information at some point........some more often than others. |
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Post by Saint on Aug 9, 2020 16:25:04 GMT -6
So players have said Altuve didn't participate and the reviews of the trash can bangs confirms that. Yet, Corch won't say he didn't take part.
But Springer has not been supported by players and the trash can't bang numbers shows he did...but yet that doesn't prove he was a cheater.
Riiight...
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Post by bearbryant on Aug 9, 2020 16:44:24 GMT -6
coach reminds me of a hemorrhoid
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Post by blcoach8 on Aug 9, 2020 17:24:28 GMT -6
So players have said Altuve didn't participate and the reviews of the trash can bangs confirms that. Yet, Corch won't say he didn't take part. But Springer has not been supported by players and the trash can't bang numbers shows he did...but yet that doesn't prove he was a cheater. Riiight... Did you really expect any of his teammates to say Altuve cheated? None of them would say that any of the other players cheated if they knew they did. It has not been proven that any of them cheated or that any of them didn't cheat. All we know is the TEAM was found guilty.....No individual player was convicted or acquitted. The trash can didn't prove or disprove anything. The video they all whined about Altuve holding his shirt to keep it from being ripped off didn't prove anything either,but, the damn Yankees are still bitching about the homer off Chapman that sent us to the WS. The Dodgers will always think we cheated to beat them when there was NO evidence of cheating on any road game and we won two games in Dodger Stadium including game 7. You do as you always do........read what you want to into a comment to make yourself look right. Typical. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Aug 9, 2020 17:25:28 GMT -6
coach reminds me of a hemorrhoid you remind me of a turd......drops in once in awhile but stinks when you show up. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Aug 9, 2020 17:35:10 GMT -6
So players have said Altuve didn't participate and the reviews of the trash can bangs confirms that. Yet, Corch won't say he didn't take part. But Springer has not been supported by players and the trash can't bang numbers shows he did...but yet that doesn't prove he was a cheater. Riiight... Did you really expect any of his teammates to say Altuve cheated? None of them would say that any of the other players cheated if they knew they did. It has not been proven that any of them cheated or that any of them didn't cheat. All we know is the TEAM was found guilty.....No individual player was convicted or acquitted. The trash can didn't prove or disprove anything. The video they all whined about Altuve holding his shirt to keep it from being ripped off didn't prove anything either,but, the damn Yankees are still bitching about the homer off Chapman that sent us to the WS. The Dodgers will always think we cheated to beat them when there was NO evidence of cheating on any road game and we won two games in Dodger Stadium including game 7. You do as you always do........read what you want to into a comment to make yourself look right. Typical. The point stands that you see Springer as more respectable than Betts despite being complicit in the cheating scandal. The data compiled as to who benefitted from the cheating most showed that Springer was a main beneficiary. Betts is a better player than Springer so there’s no angle you can use that says George is better. |
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Post by Saint on Aug 9, 2020 17:57:08 GMT -6
So players have said Altuve didn't participate and the reviews of the trash can bangs confirms that. Yet, Corch won't say he didn't take part. But Springer has not been supported by players and the trash can't bang numbers shows he did...but yet that doesn't prove he was a cheater. Riiight... Did you really expect any of his teammates to say Altuve cheated? None of them would say that any of the other players cheated if they knew they did. It has not been proven that any of them cheated or that any of them didn't cheat. All we know is the TEAM was found guilty.....No individual player was convicted or acquitted. The trash can didn't prove or disprove anything. The video they all whined about Altuve holding his shirt to keep it from being ripped off didn't prove anything either,but, the damn Yankees are still bitching about the homer off Chapman that sent us to the WS. The Dodgers will always think we cheated to beat them when there was NO evidence of cheating on any road game and we won two games in Dodger Stadium including game 7. You do as you always do........read what you want to into a comment to make yourself look right. Typical. Literally multiple teammates defended Altuve and the reviews back up their claims. None of that can be said about Springer. Wake up. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Aug 9, 2020 17:58:21 GMT -6
Did you really expect any of his teammates to say Altuve cheated? None of them would say that any of the other players cheated if they knew they did. It has not been proven that any of them cheated or that any of them didn't cheat. All we know is the TEAM was found guilty.....No individual player was convicted or acquitted. The trash can didn't prove or disprove anything. The video they all whined about Altuve holding his shirt to keep it from being ripped off didn't prove anything either,but, the damn Yankees are still bitching about the homer off Chapman that sent us to the WS. The Dodgers will always think we cheated to beat them when there was NO evidence of cheating on any road game and we won two games in Dodger Stadium including game 7. You do as you always do........read what you want to into a comment to make yourself look right. Typical. Literally multiple teammates defended Altuve and the reviews back up their claims. None of that can be said about Springer. Wake up. He talks up Marisnick but not Altuve so there’s that. |
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