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Post by thomasj13 on Oct 21, 2020 11:35:24 GMT -6
What scares me is VD has some of the same FA targets as I do: Minor, Yates, Ray...I didn't list McCain, but he would be intriguing. On top of those, I don't see Archer's team option being picked up, so he should be a FA. And I like Shane Greene, but he might be expensive. I would really like to see what's Strom could do with both Ray, Minor and Archer.... Always looking for the next Morton. Both Verlander and Osuna might not pitch at all next season, and then they are pending FAs. To me conforto for McCullers and James would be a fair deal. McCullers is not a SP in my mind and he just wants SP money. Send him to NY and see if he turns his career around. Ray would be a Bullpen guy or spot start ie James replacement. Minor has elite spin rate and with our coaches he could regain some life especially with Grienke and Strom around. Would also help with out youngsters. McCann would mean Stubbs lost his spot and we do need a 50\50 catching option meaning pure def and good average Catcher so Machete and McCann would do wonders till our catchers are actually ready. Archer would be intriguing but I still don't think his head is on track. But worth a flyer. A.Sanchez would be aswell same boat. But Profar to CF and try for Conforto would be the Key to this. I'm not for bringing back Springer or Brantley. Kinda think there money will be to much for us. Would rather take care of Correa and see where his heads at. If he cost to much then ship him out move Bregman to SS and find a trade partner for Correa and get an couple top end Prospects either 3B OF or SP. This would be a success in keeping a Grienke and Verlander if we need to. But if your intentions are to go younger Grienke to the Braves would be Ideal since there farm is loaded. Waters and a couple pitching prospects would be ideal. Just good for thought There are 5 top SS available after next season....Why not trade him this OS, and possibly sign him after 2021 season, or another top SS. |
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Post by nathangarza29 on Oct 21, 2020 11:58:18 GMT -6
To me conforto for McCullers and James would be a fair deal. McCullers is not a SP in my mind and he just wants SP money. Send him to NY and see if he turns his career around. Ray would be a Bullpen guy or spot start ie James replacement. Minor has elite spin rate and with our coaches he could regain some life especially with Grienke and Strom around. Would also help with out youngsters. McCann would mean Stubbs lost his spot and we do need a 50\50 catching option meaning pure def and good average Catcher so Machete and McCann would do wonders till our catchers are actually ready. Archer would be intriguing but I still don't think his head is on track. But worth a flyer. A.Sanchez would be aswell same boat. But Profar to CF and try for Conforto would be the Key to this. I'm not for bringing back Springer or Brantley. Kinda think there money will be to much for us. Would rather take care of Correa and see where his heads at. If he cost to much then ship him out move Bregman to SS and find a trade partner for Correa and get an couple top end Prospects either 3B OF or SP. This would be a success in keeping a Grienke and Verlander if we need to. But if your intentions are to go younger Grienke to the Braves would be Ideal since there farm is loaded. Waters and a couple pitching prospects would be ideal. Just good for thought There are 5 top SS available after next season....Why not trade him this OS, and possibly sign him after 2021 season, or another top SS. You can trade him but what are the chances of one of those top SS signing here? Idk and no one else does either. Try and resign him give him a time period if he doesn't then move forward with a trade and move bregman to ss |
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Post by thomasj13 on Oct 21, 2020 12:34:25 GMT -6
There are 5 top SS available after next season....Why not trade him this OS, and possibly sign him after 2021 season, or another top SS. You can trade him but what are the chances of one of those top SS signing here? Idk and no one else does either. Try and resign him give him a time period if he doesn't then move forward with a trade and move bregman to ss There are no guarantees that is why you trade him..He is prone to injury..sell high on him now...and if he gets through the season w/o injury, he is a FA, then try to bring him back. If you miss on him, there are four other top SS to go after The Astros overachieved this year. Springer is more than likely not re-signing. Astros would be fortunate enough to re-sign Brantley. Their farm system is near the bottom right now...Verlander and Osuna look like they won't pitch this next season. So it is what it is, Astros need to retool. Luckily there are in a weak division, they won't be dreadful to watch. They should be still in contention for winning their division; but for the time being, the main thing should be focusing on the future. Hopefully in two or three years, they are true contenders for the ALCS. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Oct 21, 2020 12:37:42 GMT -6
There are 5 top SS available after next season....Why not trade him this OS, and possibly sign him after 2021 season, or another top SS. You can trade him but what are the chances of one of those top SS signing here? Idk and no one else does either. Try and resign him give him a time period if he doesn't then move forward with a trade and move bregman to ss And trade Greinke as well |
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Post by unionstation82 on Oct 21, 2020 14:09:53 GMT -6
You can trade him but what are the chances of one of those top SS signing here? Idk and no one else does either. Try and resign him give him a time period if he doesn't then move forward with a trade and move bregman to ss And trade Greinke as well I’d trade Greinke and McCullers if it meant keeping Springer and Correa. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Oct 21, 2020 14:58:43 GMT -6
And trade Greinke as well I’d trade Greinke and McCullers if it meant keeping Springer and Correa. I'm not quitting on the team, but I'm all about let's just shuffle this thing up... We've had a good run.... had fun .. went to the ALCS four years in a row ...and won a ring* (I had to do the * for a little bit of s*** and giggles).... Now time to focus on 2023 and beyond... |
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Post by unionstation82 on Oct 21, 2020 15:06:26 GMT -6
I’d trade Greinke and McCullers if it meant keeping Springer and Correa. I'm not quitting on the team, but I'm all about let's just shuffle this thing up... We've had a good run.... had fun .. went to the ALCS four years in a row ...and won a ring* (I had to do the * for a little bit of s*** and giggles).... Now time to focus on 2023 and beyond... Which is fine if they have a good farm and high draft picks, which they possess neither. They need to retain a player or two to remain competitive. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Oct 21, 2020 15:27:02 GMT -6
I'm not quitting on the team, but I'm all about let's just shuffle this thing up... We've had a good run.... had fun .. went to the ALCS four years in a row ...and won a ring* (I had to do the * for a little bit of s*** and giggles).... Now time to focus on 2023 and beyond... Which is fine if they have a good farm and high draft picks, which they possess neither. They need to retain a player or two to remain competitive. That better players to build around this time... So it will be easier.... But they do need to make trades, to build up the farm system... Thus trading away Correa and Greinke. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Oct 21, 2020 15:34:20 GMT -6
Which is fine if they have a good farm and high draft picks, which they possess neither. They need to retain a player or two to remain competitive. That better players to build around this time... So it will be easier.... But they do need to make trades, to build up the farm system... Thus trading away Correa and Greinke. Correa will still be relatively young after the 2021 season, and my faith in Bregman has been a little shaken since the ALCS. Now, Greinke I couldn’t care less about trading. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Oct 21, 2020 15:39:41 GMT -6
That better players to build around this time... So it will be easier.... But they do need to make trades, to build up the farm system... Thus trading away Correa and Greinke. Correa will still be relatively young after the 2021 season, and my faith in Bregman has been a little shaken since the ALCS. Now, Greinke I couldn’t care less about trading. Remember all the injuries Correa goes through. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Oct 21, 2020 15:47:17 GMT -6
Correa will still be relatively young after the 2021 season, and my faith in Bregman has been a little shaken since the ALCS. Now, Greinke I couldn’t care less about trading. Remember all the injuries Correa goes through. Bregman and Springer aren’t exactly Cal Ripken, Jr. either. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Oct 21, 2020 15:50:29 GMT -6
Remember all the injuries Correa goes through. Bregman and Springer aren’t exactly Cal Ripken, Jr. either. Well Springer is going to be gone,.On Bregman, two wrongs don't make a right.... However, three lefts do make one... |
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Post by thomasj13 on Oct 21, 2020 15:54:17 GMT -6
Remember all the injuries Correa goes through. Bregman and Springer aren’t exactly Cal Ripken, Jr. either. The ironic thing is you would want to trade Alvarez, a cheap player with multiple years of team control..... As opposed to Correa, who is way more expensive, and in his last year of team control..... Trade away the more expensive player, under less team control.... Especially one that you can sell high on: Correa... as opposed to Alvarez, you be trading low on l, given he's injured. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Oct 21, 2020 15:58:15 GMT -6
Bregman and Springer aren’t exactly Cal Ripken, Jr. either. The ironic thing is you would want to trade Alvarez, a cheap player with multiple years of team control..... As opposed to Correa, who is way more expensive, and in his last year of team control..... Trade away the more expensive player, under less team control.... Especially one that you can sell high on: Correa... as opposed to Alvarez, you be trading low on l, given he's injured. I guess for that one I look for positional value and the fact that we’ve been hearing about Yordan’s knees forever followed by double knee surgery. His value lies completely in the batter’s box, and we’ve already seen that he can slump. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Oct 21, 2020 16:01:58 GMT -6
The ironic thing is you would want to trade Alvarez, a cheap player with multiple years of team control..... As opposed to Correa, who is way more expensive, and in his last year of team control..... Trade away the more expensive player, under less team control.... Especially one that you can sell high on: Correa... as opposed to Alvarez, you be trading low on l, given he's injured. I guess for that one I look for positional value and the fact that we’ve been hearing about Yordan’s knees forever followed by double knee surgery. His value lies completely in the batter’s box, and we’ve already seen that he can slump. Is he married to lady that can beat him up? |
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Post by bearbryant on Oct 21, 2020 16:19:39 GMT -6
What scares me is VD has some of the same FA targets as I do: Minor, Yates, Ray...I didn't list McCain, but he would be intriguing. I'm not for bringing back Springer or Brantley. Kinda think there money will be to much for us. Would rather take care of Correa and see where his heads at. Extending Brantley short-term and extending Correa long-term are fraught with equal risk. Folks forget that Brantley had just as many injury issues before he signed with Houston, and there’s always a chance he could revert to his injury-prone self. That being said, we’d probably have to overpay to keep Correa I have trouble believing the bidding for him would begin at $20M per though if he hasn’t shown the ability to play a full season consistently
Extending Brantley is like the decision to extend Morton that Luhnow had to make a couple years ago. He decided Morton wasn’t worth the risk based on the history, and Click may decide on Brantley in a similar manner |
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Post by blcoach8 on Oct 21, 2020 16:32:26 GMT -6
What scares me is VD has some of the same FA targets as I do: Minor, Yates, Ray...I didn't list McCain, but he would be intriguing. On top of those, I don't see Archer's team option being picked up, so he should be a FA. And I like Shane Greene, but he might be expensive. I would really like to see what's Strom could do with both Ray, Minor and Archer.... Always looking for the next Morton. Both Verlander and Osuna might not pitch at all next season, and then they are pending FAs. To me conforto for McCullers and James would be a fair deal. McCullers is not a SP in my mind and he just wants SP money. Send him to NY and see if he turns his career around. Ray would be a Bullpen guy or spot start ie James replacement. Minor has elite spin rate and with our coaches he could regain some life especially with Grienke and Strom around. Would also help with out youngsters. McCann would mean Stubbs lost his spot and we do need a 50\50 catching option meaning pure def and good average Catcher so Machete and McCann would do wonders till our catchers are actually ready. Archer would be intriguing but I still don't think his head is on track. But worth a flyer. A.Sanchez would be aswell same boat. But Profar to CF and try for Conforto would be the Key to this. I'm not for bringing back Springer or Brantley. Kinda think there money will be to much for us. Would rather take care of Correa and see where his heads at. If he cost to much then ship him out move Bregman to SS and find a trade partner for Correa and get an couple top end Prospects either 3B OF or SP. This would be a success in keeping a Grienke and Verlander if we need to. But if your intentions are to go younger Grienke to the Braves would be Ideal since there farm is loaded. Waters and a couple pitching prospects would be ideal. Just good for thought I see you still want to gut the roster. This crap is so asinine it doesn't deserve a response. |
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Post by nathangarza29 on Oct 21, 2020 16:38:11 GMT -6
I would only trade Grienke if we get some impact Prospects.
Meaning a top ender headliner and some above fringe guys or a roster player of need.
Example; again this is an example only.
Drew Waters and A.J.Minter.
But I think he is bonding well with Baker and his trust. And he could resign cheaply with alittle acomidation behind it. Key word Could.
Correa I would try and Destroy someone's farm if I trade him. Example again
Example; Sixto Sanchez, J.J. Bledley, Max Meyer and Yimi Garcia.
But thats not likely.
With the FA class of 3B
We could trade Correa and move Bregman and look at guys like. D.J. high end or
Androlton Simmons or even I mean just cuz move Yuli to third and trade for Josh Bell to play 1B???
There are avenues we can try.
PROFAR is my top FA target and try to trade for Conforto with McCullers as a headliner
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Post by abregmanfan on Oct 21, 2020 16:39:55 GMT -6
I would only trade Grienke if we get some impact Prospects. Meaning a top ender headliner and some above fringe guys or a roster player of need. Example; again this is an example only. Drew Waters and A.J.Minter. But I think he is bonding well with Baker and his trust. And he could resign cheaply with alittle acomidation behind it. Key word Could. Correa I would try and Destroy someone's farm if I trade him. Example again Example; Sixto Sanchez, J.J. Bledley, Max Meyer and Yimi Garcia. But thats not likely. With the FA class of 3B We could trade Correa and move Bregman and look at guys like. D.J. high end or Androlton Simmons or even I mean just cuz move Yuli to third and trade for Josh Bell to play 1B??? There are avenues we can try. PROFAR is my top FA target and try to trade for Conforto with McCullers as a headliner Profar sucks. |
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Post by nathangarza29 on Oct 21, 2020 16:40:32 GMT -6
To me conforto for McCullers and James would be a fair deal. McCullers is not a SP in my mind and he just wants SP money. Send him to NY and see if he turns his career around. Ray would be a Bullpen guy or spot start ie James replacement. Minor has elite spin rate and with our coaches he could regain some life especially with Grienke and Strom around. Would also help with out youngsters. McCann would mean Stubbs lost his spot and we do need a 50\50 catching option meaning pure def and good average Catcher so Machete and McCann would do wonders till our catchers are actually ready. Archer would be intriguing but I still don't think his head is on track. But worth a flyer. A.Sanchez would be aswell same boat. But Profar to CF and try for Conforto would be the Key to this. I'm not for bringing back Springer or Brantley. Kinda think there money will be to much for us. Would rather take care of Correa and see where his heads at. If he cost to much then ship him out move Bregman to SS and find a trade partner for Correa and get an couple top end Prospects either 3B OF or SP. This would be a success in keeping a Grienke and Verlander if we need to. But if your intentions are to go younger Grienke to the Braves would be Ideal since there farm is loaded. Waters and a couple pitching prospects would be ideal. Just good for thought I see you still want to gut the roster. This crap is so asinine it doesn't deserve a response. Gut the roster? You need two OFers Brantley and Springer are gone. I'm sorry but you gotta get over that. This is Springers last chance to cash in for the money. And Brantleys last ride for a WS ring. McCullers and James is gutting the roster? I said I would resign Correa and try to keep Grienke. Only way I would trade them is if I got top end Prospects. So get your facts straight partner..... |
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Post by nathangarza29 on Oct 21, 2020 16:42:19 GMT -6
I would only trade Grienke if we get some impact Prospects. Meaning a top ender headliner and some above fringe guys or a roster player of need. Example; again this is an example only. Drew Waters and A.J.Minter. But I think he is bonding well with Baker and his trust. And he could resign cheaply with alittle acomidation behind it. Key word Could. Correa I would try and Destroy someone's farm if I trade him. Example again Example; Sixto Sanchez, J.J. Bledley, Max Meyer and Yimi Garcia. But thats not likely. With the FA class of 3B We could trade Correa and move Bregman and look at guys like. D.J. high end or Androlton Simmons or even I mean just cuz move Yuli to third and trade for Josh Bell to play 1B??? There are avenues we can try. PROFAR is my top FA target and try to trade for Conforto with McCullers as a headliner Profar sucks. Not really he has improved with his bat. And can play OF. Apparently he is being looked at as a CF option for the Astros. Js. Might wanna keep that name in mind |
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Post by blcoach8 on Oct 21, 2020 17:07:06 GMT -6
I see you still want to gut the roster. This crap is so asinine it doesn't deserve a response. Gut the roster? You need two OFers Brantley and Springer are gone. I'm sorry but you gotta get over that. This is Springers last chance to cash in for the money. And Brantleys last ride for a WS ring. McCullers and James is gutting the roster? I said I would resign Correa and try to keep Grienke. Only way I would trade them is if I got top end Prospects. So get your facts straight partner..... First, we do not know for certain that Springer and Brantley are gone........did one of your "sources" uncover top secret information? We don't know that Crane won't offer George the money he wants....We also don't know that George doesn't want out of Houston to keep from getting his ass booed next year when fans are back in the seats. Same for Brantley. Where did you get the idea that Jurickson Profar is a CF??? I can see them trading James..I would recommend it. I don't think McCullers will be traded. I think he should be moved to the pen and looked at as the potential closer. We don't know when or if Osuna returns and Pressly is no closer. I am all for signing Correa, but, if we keep Greinke, we may not have the money to pay him. I can't see having both Greinke and Verlander around after 2021. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Oct 21, 2020 19:03:40 GMT -6
Gut the roster? You need two OFers Brantley and Springer are gone. I'm sorry but you gotta get over that. This is Springers last chance to cash in for the money. And Brantleys last ride for a WS ring. McCullers and James is gutting the roster? I said I would resign Correa and try to keep Grienke. Only way I would trade them is if I got top end Prospects. So get your facts straight partner..... First, we do not know for certain that Springer and Brantley are gone........did one of your "sources" uncover top secret information? We don't know that Crane won't offer George the money he wants....We also don't know that George doesn't want out of Houston to keep from getting his ass booed next year when fans are back in the seats. Same for Brantley. Where did you get the idea that Jurickson Profar is a CF??? I can see them trading James..I would recommend it. I don't think McCullers will be traded. I think he should be moved to the pen and looked at as the potential closer. We don't know when or if Osuna returns and Pressly is no closer. I am all for signing Correa, but, if we keep Greinke, we may not have the money to pay him. I can't see having both Greinke and Verlander around after 2021. I think it's more than likely Springer is gone. I think the fan in us wants to believe that he'll stay here, but you can't fault Springer for wanting to max out his money. I don't see him giving the Astros a great hometown discount. I think a lot of people think he'll be wearing a Red Sox jersey next year, but don't count the other Sox out. The White Sox are in good position on making big acquisitions. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Oct 21, 2020 20:31:27 GMT -6
First, we do not know for certain that Springer and Brantley are gone........did one of your "sources" uncover top secret information? We don't know that Crane won't offer George the money he wants....We also don't know that George doesn't want out of Houston to keep from getting his ass booed next year when fans are back in the seats. Same for Brantley. Where did you get the idea that Jurickson Profar is a CF??? I can see them trading James..I would recommend it. I don't think McCullers will be traded. I think he should be moved to the pen and looked at as the potential closer. We don't know when or if Osuna returns and Pressly is no closer. I am all for signing Correa, but, if we keep Greinke, we may not have the money to pay him. I can't see having both Greinke and Verlander around after 2021. I think it's more than likely Springer is gone. I think the fan in us wants to believe that he'll stay here, but you can't fault Springer for wanting to max out his money. I don't see him giving the Astros a great hometown discount. I think a lot of people think he'll be wearing a Red Sox jersey next year, but don't count the other Sox out. The White Sox are in good position on making big acquisitions. How much friggin money do they have left to spend? |
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Post by blcoach8 on Oct 21, 2020 20:34:28 GMT -6
First, we do not know for certain that Springer and Brantley are gone........did one of your "sources" uncover top secret information? We don't know that Crane won't offer George the money he wants....We also don't know that George doesn't want out of Houston to keep from getting his ass booed next year when fans are back in the seats. Same for Brantley. Where did you get the idea that Jurickson Profar is a CF??? I can see them trading James..I would recommend it. I don't think McCullers will be traded. I think he should be moved to the pen and looked at as the potential closer. We don't know when or if Osuna returns and Pressly is no closer. I am all for signing Correa, but, if we keep Greinke, we may not have the money to pay him. I can't see having both Greinke and Verlander around after 2021. I think it's more than likely Springer is gone. I think the fan in us wants to believe that he'll stay here, but you can't fault Springer for wanting to max out his money. I don't see him giving the Astros a great hometown discount. I think a lot of people think he'll be wearing a Red Sox jersey next year, but don't count the other Sox out. The White Sox are in good position on making big acquisitions. I hope he and Brantley both say, but, won't be surprised if one or both are gone. If that happens, Click has two big holes to fill in the outfield. I read on a site yesterday that rumors are going around that Springer has already moved out of his house in Houston......could be true and could be BS. I don't think he gives the Astros a discount? Why should he? He saw Bregman and Altuve get the big contract and he has every right to want the same thing. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Oct 21, 2020 20:57:39 GMT -6
The Astros in no way, shape, or form deserve a discount for the services of George Springer. Clemens and Pettitte did it a long while back, and it was an anomaly.
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Post by blcoach8 on Oct 21, 2020 21:24:55 GMT -6
The Astros in no way, shape, or form deserve a discount for the services of George Springer. Clemens and Pettitte did it a long while back, and it was an anomaly. He deserves to get his big pay day, too. If Altuve and Bregman are worth $30 million a year, George is damn sure worth that much or more. |
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Post by nathangarza29 on Oct 21, 2020 21:36:07 GMT -6
Honestly I think Springer Brantley have already decided.
But again who knows
Just watch Profar
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Post by nathangarza29 on Oct 21, 2020 21:48:26 GMT -6
The Astros in no way, shape, or form deserve a discount for the services of George Springer. Clemens and Pettitte did it a long while back, and it was an anomaly. He deserves to get his big pay day, too. If Altuve and Bregman are worth $30 million a year, George is damn sure worth that much or more. Not saying he's not worth it. But he isnt in the budget when it comes down to it |
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Post by blcoach8 on Oct 21, 2020 22:14:56 GMT -6
Honestly I think Springer Brantley have already decided. But again who knows Just watch Profar I don't care where Profar goes as long as it isn't to the Astros. He is not CF material. |
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