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Post by Saint on Oct 17, 2020 22:56:52 GMT -6
Have to get this bad taste out of my mouth and move on.
Based on what we know we have, and what holes we need to fill somehow:
Lineup:
1B: Gurriel
2B: Altuve
SS: Correa
3B: Bregman
C: Maldonado
RF: Tucker
LF: OPEN
CF: OPEN
DH: Yordan?
Bench:
Straw
Stubbs?
Diaz
Toro?
Rotation:
Greinke
Framber
Urquidy
McCullers
Javier
Bullpen:
Paredes
Pressly
Garcia
Taylor
Scrubb
Raley
Smith (If he isn't still a p*ssy b*tch.)
Osuna?
1. Hopefully we can manage to keep at least one of Brantley or Springer, but I really doubt it. Springer will take a mega contract with the Mets or somebody, and Brantley won't want to spend his last remaining years being booed on the road as an Astro. But, even if we get one of them, we still need a minimum of one FA veteran OFer (I still say take a gamble on Puig), and that's if you think Straw can be an everyday OFer with Stubbs and/or Diaz as 4th/5th OFers.
2. If they don't think Stubbs has a future as a catcher, we need a backup C....not Garneau.
3. I think we need a veteran starting pitcher for depth and/or long relief.
4. We need at least one proven reliever that can handle some pressure situations.
I think they can bounce back and win the division again if everything goes right and some of our guys return to form, but it'll be rough. I really think we're going to have a hard time attracting reasonably-priced FAs right now. We don't have much to trade either, at the moment, unless you're going to at least partially give up on a re-tool/rebuild.
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Post by unionstation82 on Oct 17, 2020 23:12:08 GMT -6
If Yordan can’t play LF or 1B, trade him.
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Post by unionstation82 on Oct 17, 2020 23:13:40 GMT -6
Osuna is dead weight. He probably needs TJS and isn’t amazing enough to bring back. I would heavily pursue Springer and Brantley and see who signs the dotted line. I don’t care about Joe Smith.
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Post by blcoach8 on Oct 17, 2020 23:29:17 GMT -6
Osuna is dead weight. He probably needs TJS and isn’t amazing enough to bring back. I would heavily pursue Springer and Brantley and see who signs the dotted line. I don’t care about Joe Smith. I'd tell Joe Smith to hit the road.......we don't need his gutless ass. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Oct 17, 2020 23:41:29 GMT -6
The A’s are in the rear view mirror. I think they’ll promote Diekman to closer and lose Hendriks, Semien, and LaStella. Chapman will still be a great defender, but who knows how much after hip surgery.
The threat will be the Angels because the other two teams in the division are rebuilding. All the Angels need is a pitcher or two, and they’re frontrunners. They’ve got Trout, Ohtani, Upton, Rendon, Pujols, and even Fletcher. Adell has a lot of promise too.
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Post by Saint on Oct 17, 2020 23:44:18 GMT -6
The A’s are in the rear view mirror. I think they’ll promote Diekman to closer and lose Hendriks, Semien, and LaStella. Chapman will still be a great defender, but who knows how much after hip surgery. The threat will be the Angels because the other two teams in the division are rebuilding. All the Angels need is a pitcher or two, and they’re frontrunners. They’ve got Trout, Ohtani, Upton, Rendon, Pujols, and even Fletcher. Adell has a lot of promise too. Age and/or health issues with all of those guys except Rendon and Adell. They need more than just a pitcher or two. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Oct 17, 2020 23:47:10 GMT -6
The A’s are in the rear view mirror. I think they’ll promote Diekman to closer and lose Hendriks, Semien, and LaStella. Chapman will still be a great defender, but who knows how much after hip surgery. The threat will be the Angels because the other two teams in the division are rebuilding. All the Angels need is a pitcher or two, and they’re frontrunners. They’ve got Trout, Ohtani, Upton, Rendon, Pujols, and even Fletcher. Adell has a lot of promise too. Age and/or health issues with all of those guys except Rendon and Adell. They need more than just a pitcher or two. Spending is their biggest hurdle. |
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Post by Saint on Oct 17, 2020 23:49:12 GMT -6
Age and/or health issues with all of those guys except Rendon and Adell. They need more than just a pitcher or two. Spending is their biggest hurdle. They'll make a big run at Bauer. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Oct 18, 2020 0:35:22 GMT -6
Spending is their biggest hurdle. They'll make a big run at Bauer. Do they have any money left? They’re spending big money on Pujols, Upton, Trout, Rendon, and Ohtani already. |
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Post by Saint on Oct 18, 2020 0:54:49 GMT -6
They'll make a big run at Bauer. Do they have any money left? They’re spending big money on Pujols, Upton, Trout, Rendon, and Ohtani already. They've invested too much in Trout to not get him to the postseason. |
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Post by nathangarza29 on Oct 18, 2020 7:05:25 GMT -6
Would look into two bullpen arms a SP and OFs.
Just to save money.
Would differently try and nab Grienkes friend and resign Grienke. If he doesn't resign wait till the dealing and try and fix this team up for the future
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Post by thomasj13 on Oct 18, 2020 7:47:54 GMT -6
Would look into two bullpen arms a SP and OFs. Just to save money. Would differently try and nab Grienkes friend and resign Grienke. If he doesn't resign wait till the dealing and try and fix this team up for the future Who is his friend, Robbie Ray? |
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Post by blcoach8 on Oct 18, 2020 10:42:29 GMT -6
If Yordan can’t play LF or 1B, trade him. You don't trade a young guy with a low figure, controllable contract who can put up 35-40 home runs a season and drive in 100 runs. If he can only DH, he is well worth keeping. I think first base is where they should work on him. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Oct 18, 2020 10:45:56 GMT -6
If Yordan can’t play LF or 1B, trade him. You don't trade a young guy with a low figure, controllable contract who can put up 35-40 home runs a season and drive in 100 runs. If he can only DH, he is well worth keeping. I think first base is where they should work on him. I think so too, but signing old Yuli shows you the state of the position right now. If we were trying to trade for more versatile promising prospects, I wouldn’t mind parting with a position-less player, one who has huge peaks and valleys. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Oct 18, 2020 10:49:54 GMT -6
Would look into two bullpen arms a SP and OFs. Just to save money. Would differently try and nab Grienkes friend and resign Grienke. If he doesn't resign wait till the dealing and try and fix this team up for the future HAHAHAHAHAHA....Not too long ago, you wanted to trade Greinke. Now you want to re-sign him and sign Robbie Ray. Ray is worth going after,but, not for a high dollar, long-term deal. We all know you would strip the team, go with unproven prospects, and brag about saving money. You'd have a team with 100 losses and be the second coming of Drayton MacLane. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Oct 18, 2020 10:50:46 GMT -6
Would look into two bullpen arms a SP and OFs. Just to save money. Would differently try and nab Grienkes friend and resign Grienke. If he doesn't resign wait till the dealing and try and fix this team up for the future HAHAHAHAHAHA....Not too long ago, you wanted to trade Greinke. Now you want to re-sign him and sign Robbie Ray. Ray is worth going after,but, not for a high dollar, long-term deal. We all know you would strip the team, go with unproven prospects, and brag about saving money. You'd have a team with 100 losses and be the second coming of Drayton MacLane. I’d rather go big money for Realmuto than Ray. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Oct 18, 2020 10:52:36 GMT -6
The A’s are in the rear view mirror. I think they’ll promote Diekman to closer and lose Hendriks, Semien, and LaStella. Chapman will still be a great defender, but who knows how much after hip surgery. The threat will be the Angels because the other two teams in the division are rebuilding. All the Angels need is a pitcher or two, and they’re frontrunners. They’ve got Trout, Ohtani, Upton, Rendon, Pujols, and even Fletcher. Adell has a lot of promise too. Age and/or health issues with all of those guys except Rendon and Adell. They need more than just a pitcher or two. You have the Angels pegged perfectly. They give big contracts to established position players while sacrificing pitching. It has never worked and never will. They will go after some high-priced free agent....count on it. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Oct 18, 2020 11:36:33 GMT -6
Age and/or health issues with all of those guys except Rendon and Adell. They need more than just a pitcher or two. You have the Angels pegged perfectly. They give big contracts to established position players while sacrificing pitching. It has never worked and never will. They will go after some high-priced free agent....count on it. This is what you're advocating the Astros to do, by re-signing Springer and Correa... |
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Post by koolade2 on Oct 18, 2020 15:49:14 GMT -6
If the Astros are hated by the rest of the League as you guys suggest then who the HELL will sign with them. Ask for a Friend
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Post by blcoach8 on Oct 18, 2020 15:55:29 GMT -6
HAHAHAHAHAHA....Not too long ago, you wanted to trade Greinke. Now you want to re-sign him and sign Robbie Ray. Ray is worth going after,but, not for a high dollar, long-term deal. We all know you would strip the team, go with unproven prospects, and brag about saving money. You'd have a team with 100 losses and be the second coming of Drayton MacLane. I’d rather go big money for Realmuto than Ray. I had, too. I am not impressed with Ray. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Oct 18, 2020 15:57:32 GMT -6
You have the Angels pegged perfectly. They give big contracts to established position players while sacrificing pitching. It has never worked and never will. They will go after some high-priced free agent....count on it. This is what you're advocating the Astros to do, by re-signing Springer and Correa... No, I am advocating for keeping our group of core players together and build around them. The difference in us and the Angels is we don't ignore pitching in order to sign good hitting position players. If we didn't have pitching, it would be the same as what the Angels do. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Oct 18, 2020 15:58:41 GMT -6
If the Astros are hated by the rest of the League as you guys suggest then who the HELL will sign with them. Ask for a Friend Give them the right money and they don't care if they are hated around the league. We used that to motivate us in the post season. |
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Post by abregmanfan on Oct 18, 2020 18:28:35 GMT -6
I think Springer stays.
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Post by abregmanfan on Oct 18, 2020 18:35:51 GMT -6
We should sign Chris Archer on a prove it deal.
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Post by blcoach8 on Oct 18, 2020 19:52:18 GMT -6
I think he does, too.. But, they can't piss him off by trying to get him to take a discount after giving Bregman and Altuve their money. Using the excuse of losing money due to the pandemic won't wash. They better open with a bid that matches Jose and Alex. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Oct 18, 2020 19:52:49 GMT -6
We should sign Chris Archer on a prove it deal. When was the last time this guy could do anything? |
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Post by abregmanfan on Oct 18, 2020 21:13:04 GMT -6
We should sign Chris Archer on a prove it deal. When was the last time this guy could do anything? That's the same thing others asked on here when we signed your man crush Morton. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Oct 18, 2020 21:32:07 GMT -6
We should sign Chris Archer on a prove it deal. Capital idea. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Oct 18, 2020 21:32:19 GMT -6
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Post by unionstation82 on Oct 18, 2020 21:32:44 GMT -6
I think he does, too.. But, they can't piss him off by trying to get him to take a discount after giving Bregman and Altuve their money. Using the excuse of losing money due to the pandemic won't wash. They better open with a bid that matches Jose and Alex. We can agree on this. |
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