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Post by Saint on Dec 3, 2020 11:10:57 GMT -6
Who do you think is worth a shot? Rosario is the most consistent offensively , Dahl is likely the most balanced all-around player, Schwarber has the most explosive potential.
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Post by unionstation82 on Dec 3, 2020 12:11:47 GMT -6
Dahl. Go for the balance.
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Post by Saint on Dec 3, 2020 13:42:27 GMT -6
Rosario packs the most consistent offensive performance and is the healthiest. I'd go with him.
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Post by bearbryant on Dec 3, 2020 14:55:16 GMT -6
it wasn't too long ago nathan wanted to trade Bukauskas, JD Davis and Tyler White for Rosario
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Post by unionstation82 on Dec 3, 2020 15:28:38 GMT -6
Rosario packs the most consistent offensive performance and is the healthiest. I'd go with him. I’ll give you the health part. I wish we could swap him with Díaz. |
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Post by Saint on Dec 3, 2020 15:53:04 GMT -6
it wasn't too long ago nathan wanted to trade Bukauskas, JD Davis and Tyler White for Rosario It's too bad Davis can't seem to find a place to play defensively, because it appears his offense (even when slumping some last year) is legitimately pretty good. Not to mention that 3.38 ERA as a pitcher! |
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Post by Saint on Dec 3, 2020 15:54:25 GMT -6
Rosario packs the most consistent offensive performance and is the healthiest. I'd go with him. I’ll give you the health part. I wish we could swap him with Díaz. Why swap? Both have value. Diaz has an .807 OPS with us while playing 5 different positions. I like Diaz a lot. |
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Post by abregmanfan on Dec 3, 2020 16:16:04 GMT -6
I voted for Schwarber because I like saying his name.
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Post by thomasj13 on Dec 3, 2020 17:30:08 GMT -6
I voted for Schwarber because I like saying his name. As good as reason as any. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Dec 3, 2020 17:32:09 GMT -6
I voted for Schwarber because I like saying his name. I went with Rosario....and I wouldn't mind Adam Eaton as a bench player.... |
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Post by m240 on Dec 4, 2020 8:09:33 GMT -6
I voted for Schwarber because I like saying his name. I went with Rosario....and I wouldn't mind Adam Eaton as a bench player.... I wonder if Eaton has anything left in the tank. If so yea he would be another interesting player to add to the team. Should be pretty inexpensive well. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Dec 4, 2020 8:31:12 GMT -6
I went with Rosario....and I wouldn't mind Adam Eaton as a bench player.... I wonder if Eaton has anything left in the tank. If so yea he would be another interesting player to add to the team. Should be pretty inexpensive well. He shouldn't cost that much....low risk/medium return.... Classic bench guy profile... I think like most here, we believe the Astros have a great chance of winning the ALW... But I don't think they're true contenders in the in the AL.. I'm still for trading Correa and Greinke.... If they can get good value in McCullers or Pressly, I would not be opposed to trading them either... Trade preference (in order) 1. Correa - pending free agent they don't have the money to re-sign 2. Greinke - a pending free agent who is older 3. McCullers - an injury-prone pending free agent... But might have to wait till mid-season to get good value. 4. Pressly - expensive bullpen arm... But might have to wait till mid-season to get good value. All these players mention above could be re-signed, once they're free agents. Maybe only Correa would be extended a QO What I would hope the Astros would be looking for in return... High ceiling prospects : OF, SS and SP. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Dec 4, 2020 8:51:30 GMT -6
I wonder if Eaton has anything left in the tank. If so yea he would be another interesting player to add to the team. Should be pretty inexpensive well. He shouldn't cost that much....low risk/medium return.... Classic bench guy profile... I think like most here, we believe the Astros have a great chance of winning the ALW... But I don't think they're true contenders in the in the AL.. I'm still for trading Correa and Greinke.... If they can get good value in McCullers or Pressly, I would not be opposed to trading them either... Trade preference (in order) 1. Correa - pending free agent they don't have the money to re-sign 2. Greinke - a pending free agent who is older 3. McCullers - an injury-prone pending free agent... But might have to wait till mid-season to get good value. 4. Pressly - expensive bullpen arm... But might have to wait till mid-season to get good value. All these players mention above could be re-signed, once they're free agents. Maybe only Correa would be extended a QO What I would hope the Astros would be looking for in return... High ceiling prospects : OF, SS and SP. If the Astros traded away Correa, Greinke, McCullers and maybe Pressly. I would propose that they would sign these relatively low to medium cost players. Andrelton Simmons (SS) May take a one-year deal with 2nd year club option. Rick Porcello - innings eater Chris Archer - coming off surgery, but has top line stuff, needs the right coach. Yates - I just want the Astros to sign him regardless. I might be up for not trading Pressly, I think Pressly & Yates would be a great tandem for finishing games |
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Post by unionstation82 on Dec 4, 2020 11:18:59 GMT -6
I’ll give you the health part. I wish we could swap him with Díaz. Why swap? Both have value. Diaz has an .807 OPS with us while playing 5 different positions. I like Diaz a lot. I like Díaz but his value lies in being a utility player, and these others mentioned to me are better. |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Dec 4, 2020 19:55:24 GMT -6
I wonder if Eaton has anything left in the tank. If so yea he would be another interesting player to add to the team. Should be pretty inexpensive well. He shouldn't cost that much....low risk/medium return.... Classic bench guy profile... I think like most here, we believe the Astros have a great chance of winning the ALW... But I don't think they're true contenders in the in the AL.. I'm still for trading Correa and Greinke.... If they can get good value in McCullers or Pressly, I would not be opposed to trading them either... Trade preference (in order) 1. Correa - pending free agent they don't have the money to re-sign 2. Greinke - a pending free agent who is older 3. McCullers - an injury-prone pending free agent... But might have to wait till mid-season to get good value. 4. Pressly - expensive bullpen arm... But might have to wait till mid-season to get good value. All these players mention above could be re-signed, once they're free agents. Maybe only Correa would be extended a QO What I would hope the Astros would be looking for in return... High ceiling prospects : OF, SS and SP. On 3 out of 4 of your options, you posted a perfect list of why we wouldn't get shit in return for our players |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Dec 4, 2020 19:56:56 GMT -6
Why swap? Both have value. Diaz has an .807 OPS with us while playing 5 different positions. I like Diaz a lot. but his value lies in being a utility player, and these others mentioned to me are better. Yeah, like you "liked" Gattis. |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Dec 4, 2020 19:59:45 GMT -6
He shouldn't cost that much....low risk/medium return.... Classic bench guy profile... I think like most here, we believe the Astros have a great chance of winning the ALW... But I don't think they're true contenders in the in the AL.. I'm still for trading Correa and Greinke.... If they can get good value in McCullers or Pressly, I would not be opposed to trading them either... Trade preference (in order) 1. Correa - pending free agent they don't have the money to re-sign 2. Greinke - a pending free agent who is older 3. McCullers - an injury-prone pending free agent... But might have to wait till mid-season to get good value. 4. Pressly - expensive bullpen arm... But might have to wait till mid-season to get good value. All these players mention above could be re-signed, once they're free agents. Maybe only Correa would be extended a QO What I would hope the Astros would be looking for in return... High ceiling prospects : OF, SS and SP. If the Astros traded away Correa, Greinke, McCullers and maybe Pressly. I would propose that they would sign these relatively low to medium cost players. Andrelton Simmons (SS) May take a one-year deal with 2nd year club option. Rick Porcello - innings eater Chris Archer - coming off surgery, but has top line stuff, needs the right coach. Yates - I just want the Astros to sign him regardless. I might be up for not trading Pressly, I think Pressly & Yates would be a great tandem for finishing games Wow. You just used "Pressly" and "great" in the same sentence. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Dec 4, 2020 20:00:44 GMT -6
He shouldn't cost that much....low risk/medium return.... Classic bench guy profile... I think like most here, we believe the Astros have a great chance of winning the ALW... But I don't think they're true contenders in the in the AL.. I'm still for trading Correa and Greinke.... If they can get good value in McCullers or Pressly, I would not be opposed to trading them either... Trade preference (in order) 1. Correa - pending free agent they don't have the money to re-sign 2. Greinke - a pending free agent who is older 3. McCullers - an injury-prone pending free agent... But might have to wait till mid-season to get good value. 4. Pressly - expensive bullpen arm... But might have to wait till mid-season to get good value. All these players mention above could be re-signed, once they're free agents. Maybe only Correa would be extended a QO What I would hope the Astros would be looking for in return... High ceiling prospects : OF, SS and SP. On 3 out of 4 of your options, you posted a perfect list of why we wouldn't get shit in return for our players You should change your green frog to another green thing, the Grinch. |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Dec 4, 2020 20:04:12 GMT -6
On 3 out of 4 of your options, you posted a perfect list of why we wouldn't get shit in return for our players You should change your green frog to another green thing, the Grinch. Quit being a Nathan. You can't list all of the reasons your player sucks and then expect to get anything for them in a trade. Do you think the other teams don't know they suck? |
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Post by thomasj13 on Dec 4, 2020 20:10:22 GMT -6
You should change your green frog to another green thing, the Grinch. Quit being a Nathan. You can't list all of the reasons your player sucks and then expect to get anything for them in a trade. Do you think the other teams don't know they suck? I didn't say that sucked, I see reasons why we should trade them... They're more valuable to other teams that are true contenders, than the Astros.... |
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Post by thomasj13 on Dec 4, 2020 20:11:29 GMT -6
You should change your green frog to another green thing, the Grinch. Quit being a Nathan. You can't list all of the reasons your player sucks and then expect to get anything for them in a trade. Do you think the other teams don't know they suck? Do you think the Astros should just go it for this year or start retooling? |
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Post by talshill on Dec 4, 2020 20:21:25 GMT -6
I'm obviously no GM and never will be, but I think the object of trading and signing players is to improve the team. Cannot see how trading Yordan, et al improves anything. The Astros are still very much a contender and will be for some time. They're obviously not what they were, but Crane has shown that he's willing to open his pocketbook in the past and as long as he's willing to do that they've got a chance. I'm all for judicious trading, but getting rid of proven talent and taking a maybe in return is always a risky business.
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Dec 5, 2020 1:39:09 GMT -6
Quit being a Nathan. You can't list all of the reasons your player sucks and then expect to get anything for them in a trade. Do you think the other teams don't know they suck? Do you think the Astros should just go it for this year or start retooling? Not in support of a retool just yet. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Dec 5, 2020 6:46:37 GMT -6
I like Díaz but his value lies in being a utility player, and these others mentioned to me are better. Yeah, like you "liked" Gattis. I don’t like Gattis. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Dec 5, 2020 7:02:36 GMT -6
Do you think the Astros should just go it for this year or start retooling? Not in support of a retool just yet. Retool, not a rebuild. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Dec 5, 2020 10:42:05 GMT -6
The 2021 Astros remind me of the Texans of the last 2 years. Good enough to win a weak division, but not a true contender in the playoffs. That is why I am for trading certain players I don't see being on our team next year. Not a rebuild, it is a retool. A rebuild would be trading away Jose Altuve and Alex Bregman....
I'm for trading Correa, because he's coming off of a great postseason. And I'm hoping we could sell high on him. I hope that other teams would look past the fact that he's an injury prone player.
Greinke, I like, but he's a pending free agent. I don't see the Astros spending that much money on re-signing an older veteran... But there are teams out there, like the Blue Jays, that could use a solid number one or number two pitcher Not many teams are going to be willing to trade away their number one or number two right now, but I think the Astros should entertain that idea
I don't know if the Astros are going to re-sign McCullers after this year. He too is injury-prone. He has good stuff, but as some have said here, he might be best for the bullpen. Which means if he has a good year, he might be overpriced.... If the right opportunity presents itself, I would hope that the Astros would trade him.
Pressly's contract makes it pretty difficult for the Astros to trade him. He would have to be his 2017 and 2018 former self, before they would get good value on him. therefore, he might be a player that the Astros just keep. And hopefully build a strong bullpen around him
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Post by unionstation82 on Dec 5, 2020 11:34:47 GMT -6
The 2021 Astros remind me of the Texans of the last 2 years. Good enough to win a weak division, but not a true contender in the playoffs. That is why I am for trading certain players I don't see being on our team next year. Not a rebuild, it is a retool. A rebuild would be trading away Jose Altuve and Alex Bregman.... I'm for trading Correa, because he's coming off of a great postseason. And I'm hoping we could sell high on him. I hope that other teams would look past the fact that he's an injury prone player. Greinke, I like, but he's a pending free agent. I don't see the Astros spending that much money on re-signing an older veteran... But there are teams out there, like the Blue Jays, that could use a solid number one or number two pitcher Not many teams are going to be willing to trade away their number one or number two right now, but I think the Astros should entertain that idea I don't know if the Astros are going to re-sign McCullers after this year. He too is injury-prone. He has good stuff, but as some have said here, he might be best for the bullpen. Which means if he has a good year, he might be overpriced.... If the right opportunity presents itself, I would hope that the Astros would trade him. Pressly's contract makes it pretty difficult for the Astros to trade him. He would have to be his 2017 and 2018 former self, before they would get good value on him. therefore, he might be a player that the Astros just keep. And hopefully build a strong bullpen around him Greinke is a #1 pitcher when the weather is nice, the barometer is favorable, and if he had a good breakfast that day. He can lose it as easily as he finds it. I’d say at this point, he’s a #3 in a solid pitching rotation. If you can trade him, fine, but you’d also have to pay the bulk of his salary. He’s stuck here, buddy. |
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Post by bearbryant on Dec 5, 2020 11:37:46 GMT -6
I'm obviously no GM and never will be, but I think the object of trading and signing players is to improve the team. Cannot see how trading Yordan, et al improves anything. The Astros are still very much a contender and will be for some time. Yordan hasn't had trade value for 15 months, so it doesn't make sense on a couple of fronts The best time to trade Yordan would've been July 2019, but no one would've supported it then
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Post by thomasj13 on Dec 5, 2020 12:42:20 GMT -6
The 2021 Astros remind me of the Texans of the last 2 years. Good enough to win a weak division, but not a true contender in the playoffs. That is why I am for trading certain players I don't see being on our team next year. Not a rebuild, it is a retool. A rebuild would be trading away Jose Altuve and Alex Bregman.... I'm for trading Correa, because he's coming off of a great postseason. And I'm hoping we could sell high on him. I hope that other teams would look past the fact that he's an injury prone player. Greinke, I like, but he's a pending free agent. I don't see the Astros spending that much money on re-signing an older veteran... But there are teams out there, like the Blue Jays, that could use a solid number one or number two pitcher Not many teams are going to be willing to trade away their number one or number two right now, but I think the Astros should entertain that idea I don't know if the Astros are going to re-sign McCullers after this year. He too is injury-prone. He has good stuff, but as some have said here, he might be best for the bullpen. Which means if he has a good year, he might be overpriced.... If the right opportunity presents itself, I would hope that the Astros would trade him. Pressly's contract makes it pretty difficult for the Astros to trade him. He would have to be his 2017 and 2018 former self, before they would get good value on him. therefore, he might be a player that the Astros just keep. And hopefully build a strong bullpen around him Greinke is a #1 pitcher when the weather is nice, the barometer is favorable, and if he had a good breakfast that day. He can lose it as easily as he finds it. I’d say at this point, he’s a #3 in a solid pitching rotation. If you can trade him, fine, but you’d also have to pay the bulk of his salary. He’s stuck here, buddy. Arizona is paying I think about what 10 or 15 million of it... Even if the Astros have to even eat into that a little bit, if you get the right player (s), I think the Astros should do it. |
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Post by abregmanfan on Dec 5, 2020 13:39:03 GMT -6
We need to build the farm. I would trade Lance, Greinke, and anyone else not named Bregman or Altuve.
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