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Post by olpapa on May 12, 2018 21:51:09 GMT -6
Whoever we traded for Moran and Marisnick. Wasn’t Jared Cosart involved in that deal? I can’t remeber who else we traded. Maybe Kiki Hernandez? Yes. Kiki Hernandez was included in that deal. |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on May 12, 2018 22:18:06 GMT -6
It’s because I have a flawless eye for (lack of) talent, son. And you're good at ignoring statistical proof sometimes too. Only a fool would believe any stat that says Jake Marisnick is a good baseball player. |
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Post by unionstation82 on May 12, 2018 22:22:20 GMT -6
If the Astros value no bat/all defense type players like Marisnick, they should trade for Byron Buxton.
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Post by Saint on May 12, 2018 22:46:22 GMT -6
And you're good at ignoring statistical proof sometimes too. Only a fool would believe any stat that says Jake Marisnick is a good baseball player. He's had value for some use. |
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Post by Saint on Jun 8, 2018 14:27:27 GMT -6
As bad as Marisnick has been offensively, at least he isn't Chris Davis and we aren't the Orioles. Yikes. Look at all that remaining money...
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Post by blcoach8 on Jun 8, 2018 14:48:59 GMT -6
I like Jake, but, not enough to think he belongs in the lineup with all of those K's
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Post by bearbryant on Jun 8, 2018 15:09:00 GMT -6
I'd probly find Marisnick irritating if he was making Carlos Lee money. But he's not so I don't
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Post by Saint on Jun 8, 2018 15:20:11 GMT -6
I like Jake, but, not enough to think he belongs in the lineup with all of those K's He's not, and never should have been, a starter. But he certainly has value in a late innings defensive role. |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Jun 8, 2018 16:09:18 GMT -6
I'd probly find Marisnick irritating if he was making Carlos Lee money. But he's not so I don't It doesn't irritate you that he is harming the team's chances to win when he strikes out 50% of the time, often with men on base that we need to score? |
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Post by bearbryant on Jun 8, 2018 16:32:57 GMT -6
That's nothing new as far as he's concerned. Y'all act like he was a perennial All-Star before this season
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Jun 8, 2018 16:34:54 GMT -6
You'll have to search long and hard to find a single post by me acting like Joke Marisnick was a perennial All Star.
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Post by unionstation82 on Jun 8, 2018 16:49:18 GMT -6
That's nothing new as far as he's concerned. Y'all act like he was a perennial All-Star before this season By “y’all”, are you referring to the front office? |
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Post by bearbryant on Jun 8, 2018 18:06:37 GMT -6
No I'm pretty sure the front office doesn't complain non-stop about Marisnick like they're shocked he can't hit a baseball all of a sudden
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Post by unionstation82 on Jun 8, 2018 18:07:35 GMT -6
No I'm pretty sure the front office doesn't complain non-stop about Marisnick like they're shocked he can't hit a baseball all of a sudden They play him like they don’t know. |
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Post by Saint on Jun 8, 2018 18:15:49 GMT -6
Bear's form of "throwing shade" is very amusing.
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Post by Saint on Jul 19, 2018 15:20:42 GMT -6
Carlos Lee was exactly what they paid for until he hurt himself. At least it was just money. Speaking of just money. The Eric Hosmer contract is looking brutal so far for San Diego. 8 years $144 million for so far a negative WAR and a 96 OPS+. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Jul 19, 2018 17:55:58 GMT -6
At least it was just money. Speaking of just money. The Eric Hosmer contract is looking brutal so far for San Diego. 8 years $144 million for so far a negative WAR and a 96 OPS+. Hosmer was possibly the most overrated player in baseball before San Diego signed him. |
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Post by Saint on Jul 19, 2018 21:13:15 GMT -6
Speaking of just money. The Eric Hosmer contract is looking brutal so far for San Diego. 8 years $144 million for so far a negative WAR and a 96 OPS+. Hosmer was possibly the most overrated player in baseball before San Diego signed him. I thought he would at least be a productive hitter. |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Jul 20, 2018 8:12:26 GMT -6
I'd have to say Miguel Tejada. He was good for a little bit and then not. Of course, that's more than I expected/. A lot of y'all didn't like him because of your love affair with Noodle Arm Everett |
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Post by Saint on Jul 20, 2018 8:18:11 GMT -6
Our two years of Tejada got us 3.8 WAR where in that same time Everett produced .9 WAR.
I think there's no doubt that he was an overall improvement over what we would have gotten from Everett. It was a lot of prospects to get him, but in the end none of them did much anyways.
Looking back it was a mediocre trade that didn't really serve a purpose either way. That 2008 team was solid but lacked the pitching it really needed.
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Post by unionstation82 on Jul 20, 2018 13:04:02 GMT -6
I'd have to say Miguel Tejada. He was good for a little bit and then not. Of course, that's more than I expected/. A lot of y'all didn't like him because of your love affair with Noodle Arm Everett That was waastro somehow thinking that people saying Everett being a better shortstop somehow also meant them saying he was also a better hitter. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Jul 20, 2018 13:59:59 GMT -6
Our two years of Tejada got us 3.8 WAR where in that same time Everett produced .9 WAR. I think there's no doubt that he was an overall improvement over what we would have gotten from Everett. It was a lot of prospects to get him, but in the end none of them did much anyways. Looking back it was a mediocre trade that didn't really serve a purpose either way. That 2008 team was solid but lacked the pitching it really needed. My main complaint of the Ed Wade era was he focused on the bullpen way too much while providing the team with mediocre starters like Runelvys and Chacon. He got lucky with Brett Myers but didn’t trade him at the deadline when his value was highest. |
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Post by Saint on Jul 20, 2018 15:04:23 GMT -6
Our two years of Tejada got us 3.8 WAR where in that same time Everett produced .9 WAR. I think there's no doubt that he was an overall improvement over what we would have gotten from Everett. It was a lot of prospects to get him, but in the end none of them did much anyways. Looking back it was a mediocre trade that didn't really serve a purpose either way. That 2008 team was solid but lacked the pitching it really needed. My main complaint of the Ed Wade era was he focused on the bullpen way too much while providing the team with mediocre starters like Runelvys and Chacon. He got lucky with Brett Myers but didn’t trade him at the deadline when his value was highest. I see no reason to open up the whole Ed Wade debate again, but I remember thinking he was probably a mediocre GM being hamstringed by a weird owner. And people seemed ready to jump all over him before even giving him a chance. That whole debate got crazy. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2018 16:55:23 GMT -6
Our two years of Tejada got us 3.8 WAR where in that same time Everett produced .9 WAR. I think there's no doubt that he was an overall improvement over what we would have gotten from Everett. It was a lot of prospects to get him, but in the end none of them did much anyways. Looking back it was a mediocre trade that didn't really serve a purpose either way. That 2008 team was solid but lacked the pitching it really needed. I appreciate your input, however bringing up WAR to compare players should not be the only factor.
That would be like saying: Well the College poll said this team is #1 so they must be better. You are essentially taking someone else's view of stats and accepting that as your own without making your own conclusion.
This is not just you, just hate WAR when it is solely used to determine a players effectiveness. Other stats need to be added in the comparison.
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Jul 20, 2018 17:25:57 GMT -6
While WAR is mostly a shit stat, Miggy was 1000% better player than Noodlearm Everett
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Post by thomasj13 on Jul 20, 2018 17:47:10 GMT -6
While WAR is mostly a shit stat, Miggy was 1000% better player than Noodlearm Everett PED, fake aged Miggy put up some nice stats. |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Jul 20, 2018 17:54:50 GMT -6
All this talk of Noodle makes me miss Possy Member Waastro. He's the best...deal with it.
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Post by Saint on Jul 20, 2018 18:06:10 GMT -6
Our two years of Tejada got us 3.8 WAR where in that same time Everett produced .9 WAR. I think there's no doubt that he was an overall improvement over what we would have gotten from Everett. It was a lot of prospects to get him, but in the end none of them did much anyways. Looking back it was a mediocre trade that didn't really serve a purpose either way. That 2008 team was solid but lacked the pitching it really needed. I appreciate your input, however bringing up WAR to compare players should not be the only factor.
That would be like saying: Well the College poll said this team is #1 so they must be better. You are essentially taking someone else's view of stats and accepting that as your own without making your own conclusion.
This is not just you, just hate WAR when it is solely used to determine a players effectiveness. Other stats need to be added in the comparison.
With that said, I agree with you It's just a quick and easy comparison rather than posting all the numbers that say the same thing. If the WARs were close it wouldn't be worth mentioning at all, but that's a significant difference. And you can the same thing about almost any stat since we can't watch everybody play. Have to trust the numbers at some point if you want to try and be unbiased. |
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Post by Saint on Jul 20, 2018 18:08:04 GMT -6
All this talk of Noodle makes me miss Possy Member Waastro. He's the best...deal with it. Was he the lumberjack? |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Jul 20, 2018 18:36:55 GMT -6
uh...what?
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