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Post by Ashitaka on Aug 24, 2021 17:18:39 GMT -6
Just noticed that Baltimore is on an 18-game losing streak. Eighteen. Run differential of -233.
Elias going full-ham on this rebuild. This is the third year of his tenure. For reference, Astros went 70-92 during Luhnow's third year (2014).
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Post by unionstation82 on Aug 24, 2021 17:25:35 GMT -6
Is that the same team that swept us at home?
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Post by Ashitaka on Aug 24, 2021 17:49:04 GMT -6
Is that the same team that swept us at home? Yeeeep. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Aug 24, 2021 18:31:03 GMT -6
Is that the same team that swept us at home? Yeeeep. If they were smart, they would be hiring Luhnow soon |
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Post by unionstation82 on Aug 24, 2021 19:35:32 GMT -6
If they were smart, they would be hiring Luhnow soon Imagine that infield if they had a great 3B. Santana, Merrifield, and Lopez are good. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Aug 24, 2021 21:59:40 GMT -6
I have a good friend in Nacogdoches whose son, Grayson Rodriguez, was their first round pick and 11th overall pick in 2018. He is a 6'5" right handed pitcher with mid to upper 90's velocity. Of course, his family is glad he's with them because they are rebuilding and he should get to move up quickly. His dad is concerned that they may rush him. I don't care about the Orioles, but, I know this kid and his family and would love to see him excel, become a FA, and sign with us. He grew up an Astros fan.
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Post by Hunter McCormick on Aug 25, 2021 8:11:41 GMT -6
Just noticed that Baltimore is on an 18-game losing streak. Eighteen. Run differential of -233. They had to do something. Before that streak, the Diamondbacks were ahead of them for the #1 draft pick next year.  |
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Post by abregmanfan on Aug 25, 2021 8:29:33 GMT -6
I have a good friend in Nacogdoches whose son, Grayson Rodriguez, was their first round pick and 11th overall pick in 2018. He is a 6'5" right handed pitcher with mid to upper 90's velocity. Of course, his family is glad he's with them because they are rebuilding and he should get to move up quickly. His dad is concerned that they may rush him. I don't care about the Orioles, but, I know this kid and his family and would love to see him excel, become a FA, and sign with us. He grew up an Astros fan. Grayson is better than every pitcher not named Means on the Orioles MLB team. He might be better than Means... |
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Post by Ashitaka on Aug 26, 2021 18:52:43 GMT -6
LOL Angels lost twice in a row to them.
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Post by abregmanfan on Aug 26, 2021 19:03:22 GMT -6
LOL Angels lost twice in a row to them. If the Angels had any pitching they would be scary. |
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Post by Ashitaka on Aug 26, 2021 19:06:50 GMT -6
LOL Angels lost twice in a row to them. If the Angels had any pitching they would be scary. It feels like it's been that way for like a decade. Who was their last really above-average starter? Jered Weaver like six or seven years ago? |
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Post by blcoach8 on Aug 26, 2021 22:04:05 GMT -6
I have a good friend in Nacogdoches whose son, Grayson Rodriguez, was their first round pick and 11th overall pick in 2018. He is a 6'5" right handed pitcher with mid to upper 90's velocity. Of course, his family is glad he's with them because they are rebuilding and he should get to move up quickly. His dad is concerned that they may rush him. I don't care about the Orioles, but, I know this kid and his family and would love to see him excel, become a FA, and sign with us. He grew up an Astros fan. Grayson is better than every pitcher not named Means on the Orioles MLB team. He might be better than Means... He is a great pitcher and a fine young man. He has two good parents who raised him right. His mom told me that his younger brother, who is starting the 8th grade this year, was as good or better than Grayson at the same age. His brother is going to have the size, too. I think Garner is about 6'2' or 6'3" now. It would be great if he became an Astro some day. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Aug 26, 2021 22:09:33 GMT -6
LOL Angels lost twice in a row to them. If the Angels had any pitching they would be scary. They keep handing out multi-million dollar contracts to sluggers who get hurt and never help them. Trout and Rendon are bleeding them dry and doing nothing to help them. I can't remember Trout ever going through a season without spending a lot of time on the IL. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Aug 27, 2021 7:54:32 GMT -6
If the Angels had any pitching they would be scary. They keep handing out multi-million dollar contracts to sluggers who get hurt and never help them. Trout and Rendon are bleeding them dry and doing nothing to help them. I can't remember Trout ever going through a season without spending a lot of time on the IL. In fairness, you’ve been beating the drum for Correa so it’s weird you imply that Trout isn’t worth the money. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Aug 27, 2021 11:04:21 GMT -6
They keep handing out multi-million dollar contracts to sluggers who get hurt and never help them. Trout and Rendon are bleeding them dry and doing nothing to help them. I can't remember Trout ever going through a season without spending a lot of time on the IL. In fairness, you’ve been beating the drum for Correa so it’s weird you imply that Trout isn’t worth the money. Correa has been totally healthy when compared to Trout. He hasn't been around since May, and, he always goes on vacation every year as soon as the Angels are out of the race. Correa shows up in September and the post season. Trout can't spell post season and is NEVER around after the Angels go in the tank. Trout hasn't been worth the money since he hasn't been on the field to earn it. Correa has been there last year and all of this one. Trout is being replaced as the media darling by Ohtani who the media wants to hand the MVP even though the Angels are in 4th place in the division. It 's a damn joke. |
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Post by abregmanfan on Aug 27, 2021 11:45:16 GMT -6
In fairness, you’ve been beating the drum for Correa so it’s weird you imply that Trout isn’t worth the money. Correa has been totally healthy when compared to Trout. He hasn't been around since May, and, he always goes on vacation every year as soon as the Angels are out of the race. Correa shows up in September and the post season. Trout can't spell post season and is NEVER around after the Angels go in the tank. Trout hasn't been worth the money since he hasn't been on the field to earn it. Correa has been there last year and all of this one. Trout is being replaced as the media darling by Ohtani who the media wants to hand the MVP even though the Angels are in 4th place in the division. It 's a damn joke. Ohtani is the mvp. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Aug 27, 2021 12:07:04 GMT -6
Correa has been totally healthy when compared to Trout. He hasn't been around since May, and, he always goes on vacation every year as soon as the Angels are out of the race. Correa shows up in September and the post season. Trout can't spell post season and is NEVER around after the Angels go in the tank. Trout hasn't been worth the money since he hasn't been on the field to earn it. Correa has been there last year and all of this one. Trout is being replaced as the media darling by Ohtani who the media wants to hand the MVP even though the Angels are in 4th place in the division. It 's a damn joke. Ohtani is the mvp. Are we going to rekindle that argument again? My position will not change even though I'm sure I'm in the minority. An MVP leads his team to a title...... not to 4th place. This is the same crap we have seen with Trout. Here we have a big, talented Japanese player who is both a DH and a pitcher playing in a major media market on the West Coast who leads the world in home runs while playing for a horse shit team going nowhere but home for the winter and people want to annoint him MVP......bullshit. |
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Post by abregmanfan on Aug 27, 2021 12:29:03 GMT -6
Are we going to rekindle that argument again? My position will not change even though I'm sure I'm in the minority. An MVP leads his team to a title...... not to 4th place. This is the same crap we have seen with Trout. Here we have a big, talented Japanese player who is both a DH and a pitcher playing in a major media market on the West Coast who leads the world in home runs while playing for a horse shit team going nowhere but home for the winter and people want to annoint him MVP......bullshit. So, someone off the Rays should be the MVP? |
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Post by blcoach8 on Aug 27, 2021 13:34:53 GMT -6
Are we going to rekindle that argument again? My position will not change even though I'm sure I'm in the minority. An MVP leads his team to a title...... not to 4th place. This is the same crap we have seen with Trout. Here we have a big, talented Japanese player who is both a DH and a pitcher playing in a major media market on the West Coast who leads the world in home runs while playing for a horse shit team going nowhere but home for the winter and people want to annoint him MVP......bullshit. So, someone off the Rays should be the MVP? The MVP should come from the team that wins the AL. Same in the NL. Unless it's in pro sports where the media calls the shots, where else is an MVP chosen from a team that didn't win? The Angels could have finished 4th if Ohtani had been on the IL with Trout and Rendon all season. |
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Post by abregmanfan on Aug 27, 2021 13:38:39 GMT -6
So, someone off the Rays should be the MVP? The MVP should come from the team that wins the AL. Same in the NL. Unless it's in pro sports where the media calls the shots, where else is an MVP chosen from a team that didn't win? The Angels could have finished 4th if Ohtani had been on the IL with Trout and Rendon all season. That's why they have Nlcs and Alcs mvps. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Aug 27, 2021 14:07:21 GMT -6
The MVP should come from the team that wins the AL. Same in the NL. Unless it's in pro sports where the media calls the shots, where else is an MVP chosen from a team that didn't win? The Angels could have finished 4th if Ohtani had been on the IL with Trout and Rendon all season. That's why they have Nlcs and Alcs mvps. It still makes no sense to give an MVP award to a player whose team accomplished nothing. |
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Post by abregmanfan on Aug 27, 2021 14:08:47 GMT -6
That's why they have Nlcs and Alcs mvps. It still makes no sense to give an MVP award to a player whose team accomplished nothing. Imo, the mvp is the best player in their league. I would have to give that to Ohtani. He will win it hands down, the NL mvp race will be close. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Aug 27, 2021 14:28:50 GMT -6
It still makes no sense to give an MVP award to a player whose team accomplished nothing. Imo, the mvp is the best player in their league. I would have to give that to Ohtani. He will win it hands down, the NL mvp race will be close. Everyone has his own definition of an MVP. I could never vote for an MVP that was on a losing team because I think in order to be that valuable, your team must accomplish something. Yes, I know Ohtani isn't responsible for others being on the IL, but, the Angels would not have won with Trout or Rendon healthy due to their pitching. They always had out millions for offense and ignore their pitching. They never seem to learn that this doesn't work. Ohtani may have been the best player in the league this season, although I have a problem saying a DH is the best player. If I had to choose between Ohtani and Vlad Jr., I take Vlad Jr. any time. |
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Post by abregmanfan on Aug 27, 2021 15:00:33 GMT -6
Imo, the mvp is the best player in their league. I would have to give that to Ohtani. He will win it hands down, the NL mvp race will be close. Everyone has his own definition of an MVP. I could never vote for an MVP that was on a losing team because I think in order to be that valuable, your team must accomplish something. Yes, I know Ohtani isn't responsible for others being on the IL, but, the Angels would not have won with Trout or Rendon healthy due to their pitching. They always had out millions for offense and ignore their pitching. They never seem to learn that this doesn't work. Ohtani may have been the best player in the league this season, although I have a problem saying a DH is the best player. If I had to choose between Ohtani and Vlad Jr., I take Vlad Jr. any time. Ok. Well, you do realize the Bluejays are a 4th place team just like the Angels are? |
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Post by Saint on Aug 27, 2021 15:07:34 GMT -6
By definition, the best player in the league is the most valuable to any team. To me, the only time the team's production has a part is in a tie-breaking type scenario and even then you have to factor in how much support they have on their team around them.
Ohtani is the runaway MVP in all of baseball this year, and I don't even care for him.
As far as Vlad goes, Correa and Semien are more deserving than Vlad at this point if you factor in overall value.
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Post by blcoach8 on Aug 27, 2021 16:08:03 GMT -6
Everyone has his own definition of an MVP. I could never vote for an MVP that was on a losing team because I think in order to be that valuable, your team must accomplish something. Yes, I know Ohtani isn't responsible for others being on the IL, but, the Angels would not have won with Trout or Rendon healthy due to their pitching. They always had out millions for offense and ignore their pitching. They never seem to learn that this doesn't work. Ohtani may have been the best player in the league this season, although I have a problem saying a DH is the best player. If I had to choose between Ohtani and Vlad Jr., I take Vlad Jr. any time. Ok. Well, you do realize the Bluejays are a 4th place team just like the Angels are? Yes, I realize that. I think Vlad jr. is a more complete player than Ohtani. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Aug 27, 2021 16:10:48 GMT -6
By definition, the best player in the league is the most valuable to any team. To me, the only time the team's production has a part is in a tie-breaking type scenario and even then you have to factor in how much support they have on their team around them. Ohtani is the runaway MVP in all of baseball this year, and I don't even care for him. As far as Vlad goes, Correa and Semien are more deserving than Vlad at this point if you factor in overall value. I expected you to say Ohtani is the runaway winner even though his team sucks. Nobody will change my mind about what an MVP should be and I won't change yours......I will never say an MVP should come from any team that isn't the league champion. If we win the AL, one of our guys should be the MVP not some guy whose team sucked like the Angels. |
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Post by Hunter McCormick on Aug 27, 2021 16:16:38 GMT -6
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Post by abregmanfan on Aug 27, 2021 16:42:04 GMT -6
Ok. Well, you do realize the Bluejays are a 4th place team just like the Angels are? Yes, I realize that. I think Vlad jr. is a more complete player than Ohtani. What is Vlad's fastball sitting at? |
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Post by thomasj13 on Aug 27, 2021 17:17:23 GMT -6
Yes, I realize that. I think Vlad jr. is a more complete player than Ohtani. What is Vlad's fastball sitting at? Can you imagine how good Ohtani would be if Strom was his pitching coach? Seriously, coming from a huge Strom fan. |
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