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Post by blcoach8 on Sept 8, 2021 22:17:08 GMT -6
I don't think anyone doubts that this team will make the playoffs. With 23 games left, they could easily go 13-10 and finish with 94 wins. That's not great, but to tie that Oakland would have to go 20-4 and Seattle would need 18-4. So yes, barring something incredible from both the Astros and one of those teams, we're in. But you can't help watching this team and feeling like it won't matter. Click brought in four relievers. One is elite, one has been injured, and the other two very inconsistent. They haven't been able to call up a single reliver who has been consistent. The rotation is full of guys who have question marks (LMJ prone to command problems, Greinke not the same as he once was, Garcia young and way past his previous total pitch count, Urquidy coming off injury, Odorizzi...yeah). And then the offense seems to go cold frequently, even against mediocre competition. Anything can happen in October, but it would be hard to bet on this team right now. This team cannot win a 7-game series against the Rays. No way. Not without a miracle being performed. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Sept 8, 2021 22:22:10 GMT -6
Some would say playing that damn Gonzalez today and taking playing time away from "more deserving players" like Robel Garcia or Jacob Wilson was pure bullshit. But, that damn Gonzalez hit a two run homer. I'm sure the awesome Robel or Jacob, whose playing time Marwin is stealing, would have done that or better. LOL LOL That loser hitting that HR is just a trap for the mongos of the world. now you'll be gargling his nuts and thinking he some kind of HR hitter. Until he proves he's not and you have to spit him out. No, I leave the nut gargling to those who had rather have a couple of guys who have been released by half the teams in the majors instead of a former Astro the players wanted back due to his experience and versatility. One thing I never did.......I never told the team MVP and best player who is also an elite SS to GTFO because of an article written by some clown desperate for a story. |
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Post by Hunter McCormick on Sept 9, 2021 7:56:36 GMT -6
WTF is wrong with Astros Relief pitching. Everyone seems to suck worse than the other one. Don't worry. Strom will fix them. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Sept 9, 2021 9:22:42 GMT -6
WTF is wrong with Astros Relief pitching. Everyone seems to suck worse than the other one. Don't worry. Strom will fix them. Welcome to The Resistance. |
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Post by Hunter McCormick on Sept 9, 2021 9:26:47 GMT -6
Resistance is Fertile.
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Post by unionstation82 on Sept 9, 2021 9:29:54 GMT -6
Remember, nothing is Strom’s fault but everything is Dusty’s. |
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Post by Hunter McCormick on Sept 9, 2021 9:36:59 GMT -6
Remember, nothing is Strom’s fault but everything is Dusty’s. Or the hitting coach, etc... |
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Post by unionstation82 on Sept 9, 2021 9:45:42 GMT -6
Remember, nothing is Strom’s fault but everything is Dusty’s. Or the hitting coach, etc... Whenever a scared fan is even thinking about blaming Strom. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Sept 9, 2021 9:50:56 GMT -6
Remember, nothing is Strom’s fault but everything is Dusty’s. Also remember most of what Strom has in relief, he has not had long timr to instruct/coach with....I am not a fan of Maton, but he should be better next season. |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Sept 9, 2021 9:53:49 GMT -6
Remember, nothing is Strom’s fault but everything is Dusty’s. And the hitting coaches. But Strom didn't throw a pitch. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Sept 9, 2021 9:53:51 GMT -6
Remember, nothing is Strom’s fault but everything is Dusty’s. Also remember most of what Strom has in relief, he has not had long timr to instruct/coach with....I am not a fan of Maton, but he should be better next season. He’s also got Pressly, who he’s had years to work on, and an elite reliever in Graveman. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Sept 9, 2021 9:55:16 GMT -6
Remember, nothing is Strom’s fault but everything is Dusty’s. And the hitting coaches. But Strom didn't throw a pitch. And if a reliever shits the bad, he was always bad to begin with. |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Sept 9, 2021 9:55:22 GMT -6
Remember, nothing is Strom’s fault but everything is Dusty’s. Also remember most of what Strom has in relief, he has not had long timr to instruct/coach with....I am not a fan of Maton, but he should be better next season. Translation: Also remember most of what Strom has in relief hasn't come to the team already on a HOF trajectory, unlike the SP he has helped. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Sept 9, 2021 10:13:03 GMT -6
Also remember most of what Strom has in relief, he has not had long timr to instruct/coach with....I am not a fan of Maton, but he should be better next season. Translation: Also remember most of what Strom has in relief hasn't come to the team already on a HOF trajectory, unlike the SP he has helped. Morton, Valdez, Urquidy, McCullers, Garcia? |
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Post by thomasj13 on Sept 9, 2021 10:13:58 GMT -6
Also remember most of what Strom has in relief, he has not had long timr to instruct/coach with....I am not a fan of Maton, but he should be better next season. He’s also got Pressly, who he’s had years to work on, and an elite reliever in Graveman. Pressly has done well under Strom. |
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Post by Saint on Sept 9, 2021 10:20:05 GMT -6
I don't think anyone doubts that this team will make the playoffs. With 23 games left, they could easily go 13-10 and finish with 94 wins. That's not great, but to tie that Oakland would have to go 20-4 and Seattle would need 18-4. So yes, barring something incredible from both the Astros and one of those teams, we're in. But you can't help watching this team and feeling like it won't matter. Click brought in four relievers. One is elite, one has been injured, and the other two very inconsistent. They haven't been able to call up a single reliver who has been consistent. The rotation is full of guys who have question marks (LMJ prone to command problems, Greinke not the same as he once was, Garcia young and way past his previous total pitch count, Urquidy coming off injury, Odorizzi...yeah). And then the offense seems to go cold frequently, even against mediocre competition. Anything can happen in October, but it would be hard to bet on this team right now. I think you need to give them some extra points for their experience in the postseason though. Look what they did last year as a bad team during the regular season and then turned it on in the postseason. This year they're a good team going into the postseason. |
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Post by bearbryant on Sept 9, 2021 10:27:04 GMT -6
Strom fix García's windup
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Post by blcoach8 on Sept 9, 2021 11:09:50 GMT -6
Fertile meaning the Strom bashers are mostly full of crap since some of them openly support an idiot like Dusty. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Sept 9, 2021 11:11:06 GMT -6
Strom fix García's windup We fully agree on that. That is probably something that should be addressed in ST next year. Changing it at this point of the season would not be wise. |
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Post by Saint on Sept 9, 2021 11:12:50 GMT -6
The coaching staff receives way too much credit and/or blame from fans. None of them are a major determining factor in our failure or success right now. This is a team full of veteran players who have had success at the highest levels, and young players/rookies that are playing their asses off. Sometimes you're just going to lose.
We may not like some of their hitting approaches or some of the moves made with the bullpen, but the overall results have been excellent for years now, including this year.
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Post by blcoach8 on Sept 9, 2021 11:14:40 GMT -6
Also remember most of what Strom has in relief, he has not had long timr to instruct/coach with....I am not a fan of Maton, but he should be better next season. Translation: Also remember most of what Strom has in relief hasn't come to the team already on a HOF trajectory, unlike the SP he has helped. So, you think Charlie Morton was headed to the HOF when he came here? Cole progressed way above expectations. Verlander was headed to the HOF....the others not so much. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Sept 9, 2021 11:15:20 GMT -6
The coaching staff receives way too much credit and/or blame from fans. None of them are a major determining factor in our failure or success right now. This is a team full of veteran players who have had success at the highest levels, and young players/rookies that are playing their asses off. Sometimes you're just going to lose. We may not like some of their hitting approaches or some of the moves made with the bullpen, but the overall results have been excellent for years now, including this year. My point has always been that Dusty and Strom get an inverse proportion of blame. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Sept 9, 2021 11:17:25 GMT -6
The coaching staff receives way too much credit and/or blame from fans. None of them are a major determining factor in our failure or success right now. This is a team full of veteran players who have had success at the highest levels, and young players/rookies that are playing their asses off. Sometimes you're just going to lose. We may not like some of their hitting approaches or some of the moves made with the bullpen, but the overall results have been excellent for years now, including this year. Whoever is supposed to be the baserunning coach is totally incompetent. The main weakness in our hitters is their inability to move runners along and situational hitting. The Mariners burned us by taking advantage of the shift. We don't seem to be able to do that. |
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Post by Saint on Sept 9, 2021 11:20:06 GMT -6
The coaching staff receives way too much credit and/or blame from fans. None of them are a major determining factor in our failure or success right now. This is a team full of veteran players who have had success at the highest levels, and young players/rookies that are playing their asses off. Sometimes you're just going to lose. We may not like some of their hitting approaches or some of the moves made with the bullpen, but the overall results have been excellent for years now, including this year. Whoever is supposed to be the baserunning coach is totally incompetent. The main weakness in our hitters is their inability to move runners along and situational hitting. The Mariners burned us by taking advantage of the shift. We don't seem to be able to do that. But they didn't "burn us". We won the series. I think too much is spent on small sample sizes rather than the big picture. We've had some rough stretches and bad losses all year, but, overall, we're one of the best teams in baseball even when we played most of the season without our full normal lineup. And that's even after losing one of the best CFers in the game. Overall, their approaches and performance are working. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Sept 9, 2021 11:21:48 GMT -6
The coaching staff receives way too much credit and/or blame from fans. None of them are a major determining factor in our failure or success right now. This is a team full of veteran players who have had success at the highest levels, and young players/rookies that are playing their asses off. Sometimes you're just going to lose. We may not like some of their hitting approaches or some of the moves made with the bullpen, but the overall results have been excellent for years now, including this year. My point has always been that Dusty and Strom get an inverse proportion of blame. Dusty earns the blame he gets, especially for "resting" players who are hitting and making dumb moves with the pitching. Meyers has a great game on Monday....benched on Tuesday. Bregman has a fantastic game on Tuesday......benched Wednesday. Dusty earns his portion of the blame. I do agree that Storm often gets too much credit, but, some of you want to hammer him each time a pitcher has a bad game. If he was fired or chose to leave, he'd be hired by another team in a heartbeat. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Sept 9, 2021 11:22:34 GMT -6
Whoever is supposed to be the baserunning coach is totally incompetent. The main weakness in our hitters is their inability to move runners along and situational hitting. The Mariners burned us by taking advantage of the shift. We don't seem to be able to do that. But they didn't "burn us". We won the series. I think too much is spent on small sample sizes rather than the big picture. We've had some rough stretches and bad losses all year, but, overall, we're one of the best teams in baseball even when we played most of the season without our full normal lineup. And that's even after losing one of the best CFers in the game. Overall, their approaches and performance are working. Yes, we won the series. But, the shift cost us having a sweep. |
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Post by Hunter McCormick on Sept 9, 2021 12:13:34 GMT -6
My point has always been that Dusty and Strom get an inverse proportion of blame. Ya gotta understand how it works ... Pitching sucks? Blame the pitchers or how Dusty used them, even if every one of them sucked that day. You simply can't blame Strom for anything. Hitting sucks? Blame the hitting coach or the baserunning coach, even if every one of them wimped out that day. You simply can't blame the individual hitters unless it's a bench player or Bregman. And if possible, blame Dusty. |
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Post by Saint on Sept 9, 2021 12:43:59 GMT -6
But they didn't "burn us". We won the series. I think too much is spent on small sample sizes rather than the big picture. We've had some rough stretches and bad losses all year, but, overall, we're one of the best teams in baseball even when we played most of the season without our full normal lineup. And that's even after losing one of the best CFers in the game. Overall, their approaches and performance are working. Yes, we won the series. But, the shift cost us having a sweep. No it didn't. We had other chances to stop them or to score more runs ourselves. Sometimes things just don't go your way no matter what approach you use. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Sept 9, 2021 13:40:28 GMT -6
Yes, we won the series. But, the shift cost us having a sweep. No it didn't. We had other chances to stop them or to score more runs ourselves. Sometimes things just don't go your way no matter what approach you use. Using the shift has probably cost us at least as many runs as it has prevented. The two run single that Pressly gave up in the 9th went right through the hole where Correa would be playing under normal circumstances. Relying solely on analytics has proven to not always be reliable. A hit earlier in the game that drove in at least one run was due to the shift. You are right that we failed to take advantage of scoring opportunities,but, that doesn't change the fact that the shift gave up runs that should have been ground ball outs. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Sept 9, 2021 13:49:04 GMT -6
My point has always been that Dusty and Strom get an inverse proportion of blame. Ya gotta understand how it works ... Pitching sucks? Blame the pitchers or how Dusty used them, even if every one of them sucked that day. You simply can't blame Strom for anything. Hitting sucks? Blame the hitting coach or the baserunning coach, even if every one of them wimped out that day. You simply can't blame the individual hitters unless it's a bench player or Bregman. And if possible, blame Dusty. You belong to the club that wants to blame Strom whenever a pitcher screws up, but, never blame the hitting coaches when they can't advance runners, drive in the runner from third with less than two outs, can't bunt, etc. Maybe you can explain why most pitchers who come here get better, and, why hitters who LEAVE here also get better. I wonder why hitters improve after leaving if our hitting coaches are doing such a good job. Pitchers like Morton, Cole, and others got better when they came here and worked with Strom. What Strom taught Cole is why he got that huge contract with the Yankees. I am sire you would vote for Dusty to be Manager of the Year since you are his primary defender here.LOL |
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