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Post by Saint on Sept 9, 2021 14:14:19 GMT -6
No it didn't. We had other chances to stop them or to score more runs ourselves. Sometimes things just don't go your way no matter what approach you use. Using the shift has probably cost us at least as many runs as it has prevented. The two run single that Pressly gave up in the 9th went right through the hole where Correa would be playing under normal circumstances. Relying solely on analytics has proven to not always be reliable. A hit earlier in the game that drove in at least one run was due to the shift. You are right that we failed to take advantage of scoring opportunities,but, that doesn't change the fact that the shift gave up runs that should have been ground ball outs. If the shift didn't empirically be shown to be a gain on runs saved, they wouldn't do it. I do think there are times when it is less effective and risky, but overall I'm sure it's beneficial. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Sept 9, 2021 14:46:28 GMT -6
Using the shift has probably cost us at least as many runs as it has prevented. The two run single that Pressly gave up in the 9th went right through the hole where Correa would be playing under normal circumstances. Relying solely on analytics has proven to not always be reliable. A hit earlier in the game that drove in at least one run was due to the shift. You are right that we failed to take advantage of scoring opportunities,but, that doesn't change the fact that the shift gave up runs that should have been ground ball outs. If the shift didn't empirically be shown to be a gain on runs saved, they wouldn't do it. I do think there are times when it is less effective and risky, but overall I'm sure it's beneficial. If we want to rely so much on analytics to tell us when to shift, they should look at in depth numbers on which players on each team have tendencies to take advantage of the shift and not use it. I think it is normally a mistake to use the shift against a team like the Royals any time. |
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Post by Saint on Sept 9, 2021 14:58:23 GMT -6
If the shift didn't empirically be shown to be a gain on runs saved, they wouldn't do it. I do think there are times when it is less effective and risky, but overall I'm sure it's beneficial. If we want to rely so much on analytics to tell us when to shift, they should look at in depth numbers on which players on each team have tendencies to take advantage of the shift and not use it. I think it is normally a mistake to use the shift against a team like the Royals any time. You play the odds and give yourself the best chance to succeed. |
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Post by Hunter McCormick on Sept 9, 2021 14:59:11 GMT -6
You belong to the club that wants to blame Strom GFY, asshole. I never blamed Strom for anything. Sherwin and I are just pointing out how some dickheads are quick to blame any and all coaches not named Strom. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Sept 9, 2021 15:13:21 GMT -6
You belong to the club that wants to blame Strom GFY, asshole. I never blamed Strom for anything. Sherwin and I are just pointing out how some dickheads are quick to blame any and all coaches not named Strom. Struck a nerve didn't I, shithead? LOL You don't like being reminded of your asinine comments. You are the "dickhead" that kept praising Dusty for using McCullers as a pinch hitter and ignored every post that proved it to be asinine. LOL Maybe the reason "all coaches not named Strom" keep getting blamed is because they have shown not to be doing their jobs. Are coaches doing a good job teaching baserunning......NO. Are they doing a good job of teaching hitters to move ruuners.......NO. Do our players know how to take advantage of the shift........NO. Have any of our players shown they can bunt......NO. Strom is not responsible for any of that........the others are and they have yet to show they know what they are doing. Strom has proven that he is a quality pitching coach. Pitchers he has worked with verify it both verbally and in their performances. But, feel free to keep making yourself look stupid by bashing Strom and praising Dusty. LMAO |
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Post by Hunter McCormick on Sept 9, 2021 15:22:41 GMT -6
You flat out LIED. That's par for the course for you. |
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Post by Hunter McCormick on Sept 9, 2021 15:35:46 GMT -6
If the shift didn't empirically be shown to be a gain on runs saved, they wouldn't do it. Exactly. I do think there are times when it is less effective and risky, but overall I'm sure it's beneficial. It depends on the batter, the specific situation (runner or runners on which bases), and how you pitch to that batter. If you're gonna use analytics, use the full set, not just part. If a batter has a history of batting to the opposite side when you shift on him, you know your chances for success are not that good. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Sept 9, 2021 16:22:20 GMT -6
You flat out LIED. That's par for the course for you. This is what you said, and, it implies without saying verbatum that Strom is to blame when pitchers screw up: "Pitching sucks? Blame the pitchers or how Dusty used them, even if every one of them sucked that day. You simply can't blame Strom for anything." That implies that Strom should be blamed even though some of us decline to blame him. Nice try at wiggling out of it. You don't mind trying to dig up BS and twist comments to try and make me always look wrong, but, when the shoe is on the other foot, you scream and cry "foul"......typical response from you. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Sept 9, 2021 16:26:35 GMT -6
If we want to rely so much on analytics to tell us when to shift, they should look at in depth numbers on which players on each team have tendencies to take advantage of the shift and not use it. I think it is normally a mistake to use the shift against a team like the Royals any time. You play the odds and give yourself the best chance to succeed. One of Hinch's weaknesses was keeping his head buried in analytics he had on his clipboard. It got to the point that he often managed like a robot. Instead of using common sense and what he could see right in front of him, he referred to his damn analytics and often screwed up because of it. Refer to game 7 of the 2019 WS when he removed Greinke and brought Will Harris into the game because the numbers told him to. He had either forgotten or ignored all the times Harris had choked games away in post season games. Sometimes you should ignore the odds and go with history. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Sept 9, 2021 16:33:37 GMT -6
Whoever is supposed to be the baserunning coach is totally incompetent. The main weakness in our hitters is their inability to move runners along and situational hitting. The Mariners burned us by taking advantage of the shift. We don't seem to be able to do that. But they didn't "burn us". We won the series. I think too much is spent on small sample sizes rather than the big picture. We've had some rough stretches and bad losses all year, but, overall, we're one of the best teams in baseball even when we played most of the season without our full normal lineup. And that's even after losing one of the best CFers in the game. Overall, their approaches and performance are working. Bro, they’ve been a mediocre team since their elite win streak earlier. They can’t string together enough wins to be taken seriously right now going into the postseason. |
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Post by Hunter McCormick on Sept 9, 2021 16:37:52 GMT -6
This is what you said, and, it implies without saying verbatum that Strom is to blame when pitchers screw up:That's just another typical corch LIE. You're connecting dots that don't exist. The 'implication' is that you have a double standard when it come to assessing blame to coaches. Nothing more, nothing less. |
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Post by Hunter McCormick on Sept 9, 2021 16:46:35 GMT -6
Bro, they’ve been a mediocre team since their elite win streak earlier. They can’t string together enough wins to be taken seriously right now going into the postseason. You have to take any team that makes it to the postseason seriously. That said, the Rays and Giants are truly serious. Maybe even world serious. |
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Post by Hunter McCormick on Sept 9, 2021 17:07:46 GMT -6
Ummm how did Pressly blow a save in a tie game? Good point. In a tie game the pitcher can't blow a save. However, he can blow chunks. |
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Post by Saint on Sept 9, 2021 18:49:52 GMT -6
But they didn't "burn us". We won the series. I think too much is spent on small sample sizes rather than the big picture. We've had some rough stretches and bad losses all year, but, overall, we're one of the best teams in baseball even when we played most of the season without our full normal lineup. And that's even after losing one of the best CFers in the game. Overall, their approaches and performance are working. Bro, they’ve been a mediocre team since their elite win streak earlier. They can’t string together enough wins to be taken seriously right now going into the postseason. Trust me. The only people not taking the Astros seriously are Astros fans that are stressing out over every little thing despite a 5.5 game lead. Every team in the AL is hoping they don't have to face them in the postseason. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Sept 9, 2021 19:36:02 GMT -6
But they didn't "burn us". We won the series. I think too much is spent on small sample sizes rather than the big picture. We've had some rough stretches and bad losses all year, but, overall, we're one of the best teams in baseball even when we played most of the season without our full normal lineup. And that's even after losing one of the best CFers in the game. Overall, their approaches and performance are working. Bro, they’ve been a mediocre team since their elite win streak earlier. They can’t string together enough wins to be taken seriously right now going into the postseason. And, this should be a concern. We should not be concerned with simply maintaining our lead in the division. We should be putting teams away. There is no reason for this team not to have a 10 game lead in this division. Playing down to the level of bad teams has prevented that from happening. For some reason, we seem to be satisfied with just winning a series when we should be sweeping some of them like we should have swept this Mariners series. Dusty needs to stop this crap of resting players who are hitting. Taking Meyers out of the lineup is just plain dumb. So was not having Bregman's bat in the lineup. There are some guys who play every day and stay in the same position in the lineup no matter how bad they suck. As hot as Tucker has been, I'm surprised the moron hasn't decided he needs a day off. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Sept 9, 2021 19:36:51 GMT -6
Bro, they’ve been a mediocre team since their elite win streak earlier. They can’t string together enough wins to be taken seriously right now going into the postseason. Trust me. The only people not taking the Astros seriously are Astros fans that are stressing out over every little thing despite a 5.5 game lead. Every team in the AL is hoping they don't have to face them in the postseason. I doubt if we are striking fear into the Rays right now. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Sept 9, 2021 19:42:57 GMT -6
Bro, they’ve been a mediocre team since their elite win streak earlier. They can’t string together enough wins to be taken seriously right now going into the postseason. Trust me. The only people not taking the Astros seriously are Astros fans that are stressing out over every little thing despite a 5.5 game lead. Every team in the AL is hoping they don't have to face them in the postseason. On paper, the Astros are fantastic, but the game isn’t played on paper. Otherwise, they’d have swept the Nats. |
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Post by bearbryant on Sept 10, 2021 1:28:14 GMT -6
Strom fix García's windup We fully agree on that. That is probably something that should be addressed in ST next year. Changing it at this point of the season would not be wise. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Sept 10, 2021 6:52:44 GMT -6
We fully agree on that. That is probably something that should be addressed in ST next year. Changing it at this point of the season would not be wise. If Strommy shot someone to death, Corch would blame the bullets. |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Sept 10, 2021 8:13:40 GMT -6
So you admit, if next season García's still doin the two-step with the rubber, then Strom isn't doing his job, and is just collecting a paycheck like the others. Correct? If Strommy shot someone to death, Corch would blame the bullets. And Thomas would back him up. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Sept 10, 2021 8:23:26 GMT -6
If Strommy shot someone to death, Corch would blame the bullets. And Thomas would back him up. I would, if the bullets didn't have a good spin rate. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Sept 10, 2021 8:25:51 GMT -6
And Thomas would back him up. I would, if the bullets didn't have a good spin rate. ***** Well played. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Sept 10, 2021 9:20:41 GMT -6
This is what you said, and, it implies without saying verbatum that Strom is to blame when pitchers screw up:That's just another typical corch LIE. You're connecting dots that don't exist. The 'implication' is that you have a double standard when it come to assessing blame to coaches. Nothing more, nothing less. No, you poor pathetic asshole, what it is bringing up you trying to cover up whining because Strom isn't getting blamed when pitcher's screw up and hitting coaches are when hitters fail in certain situations. I told you why Strom has proven to be good at his job, also why hitting coaches are not. The LIE here is your attempt to wiggle out of what you implied without saying it verbatum. That way, you could straddle the fence and defend either side of the issue. LOL I have no double standard. I call it as I see it. There is NO evidence that Strom isn't good at his job. There is a LOT of evidence to show the incompetence of hitting coaches for reasons I have already stated. The fact that you are too dense to comprehend the information doesn't prevent it from being a fact. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Sept 10, 2021 9:23:20 GMT -6
So you admit, if next season García's still doin the two-step with the rubber, then Strom isn't doing his job, and is just collecting a paycheck like the others. Correct? If Strommy shot someone to death, Corch would blame the bullets. Depends on who he shot. LOL LOL If he had shot Ken Giles or Mike Fiers, I may have blamed the bullets. NOTE: I am not suggesting that Giles or Fiers should be shot. |
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Post by Saint on Sept 10, 2021 10:05:09 GMT -6
Trust me. The only people not taking the Astros seriously are Astros fans that are stressing out over every little thing despite a 5.5 game lead. Every team in the AL is hoping they don't have to face them in the postseason. I doubt if we are striking fear into the Rays right now. Fear? Maybe not. But are we the team they least want to face? Absolutely. They know they barely eeked by us last year when our starting pitcher wasn't close to what it is now and we were coming off a horrible season. |
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Post by Hunter McCormick on Sept 10, 2021 10:31:26 GMT -6
I told you why Strom has proven to be good at his job, also why hitting coaches are not. Ya sure did. I don't recall seeing Strom throw any pitches in these games. Strom can't be held accountable |
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Post by Hunter McCormick on Sept 10, 2021 10:33:15 GMT -6
We fully agree on that. That is probably something that should be addressed in ST next year. Changing it at this point of the season would not be wise. Don't expect any confirmation from corch about that.  |
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Post by blcoach8 on Sept 10, 2021 11:10:17 GMT -6
I doubt if we are striking fear into the Rays right now. Fear? Maybe not. But are we the team they least want to face? Absolutely. They know they barely eeked by us last year when our starting pitcher wasn't close to what it is now and we were coming off a horrible season. I don't think they necessarily want to face us, but, with the way we have been so inconsistent, I doubt if they are afraid of us. Right now, I think the team they definitely don't want to face is the Bluejays. I don't want to face them, either. For some reason, I am not that concerned about a series with the White Sox, and, that is who we would get if the season ended today. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Sept 10, 2021 11:17:39 GMT -6
We fully agree on that. That is probably something that should be addressed in ST next year. Changing it at this point of the season would not be wise. Depends on what was done in order to correct it. We have no way of knowing how long Garcia has been doing that two-step or how it would effect him mentally if he had to avoid using it. I think Strom should make every effort to get him to stop using it, although using it with no runners on base should not be a problem. The problem comes when he has to work with runners on, and, that two-step keeps him from holding runners close to the base. He isn't as effective with runners on base because he has to modify his delivery. No, I am not admitting that Strom isn't doing his job if Garcia is still using the two-step for the reasons I mentioned. We don't know how that two-step effects Garcia's effectiveness as a pitcher. Personally, I think it's all between his ears and he should have never been allowed to start using the two-step. I suspect he has been doing that for a long time. So, getting him out of the habit without it hindering his performance could be a problem. If Garcia can't make the adjustment, that is not Strom's fault if he made every effort to get him to correct it. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Sept 10, 2021 11:22:23 GMT -6
I told you why Strom has proven to be good at his job, also why hitting coaches are not. Ya sure did. I don't recall seeing Strom throw any pitches in these games. Strom can't be held accountable You must not have much to do if repeating my posts is important. I stand by both of those posts. I gave specific examples of why Strom has proven to be good at his job. I also gave examples as to why the hitting coaches have not been good at their jobs. Go look at what hitters have done after being under new hitting coaches and compare the numbers to what they had when they were here. |
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