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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Nov 9, 2021 13:39:36 GMT -6
Dusty is finalist for Manager of the Year, competing with Cash and Servais.
Luis Garcia is finalist for Rookie of the Year, competing with Wander Franco and Randy Arozarena.
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Post by Hunter McCormick on Nov 9, 2021 14:13:20 GMT -6
Dusty is finalist for Manager of the Year, competing with Cash and Servais. Luis Garcia is finalist for Rookie of the Year, competing with Wander Franco and Randy Arozarena. I'd like to see Dusty get it for no reason other than to piss off Corch. lol Good luck to Cha-Cha! On the NL side, I hope Mike Shildt wins. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Nov 9, 2021 17:16:04 GMT -6
Dusty is finalist for Manager of the Year, competing with Cash and Servais. Luis Garcia is finalist for Rookie of the Year, competing with Wander Franco and Randy Arozarena. I'd like to see Dusty get it for no reason other than to piss off Corch. lol Good luck to Cha-Cha! On the NL side, I hope Mike Shildt wins. I’m with you there about Dusty. |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Nov 12, 2021 17:58:00 GMT -6
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Post by thomasj13 on Nov 12, 2021 18:17:32 GMT -6
It will be Photoshopped with a new jersey before long. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Nov 12, 2021 19:15:51 GMT -6
Pay the man.
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Post by thomasj13 on Nov 12, 2021 19:56:40 GMT -6
40 million rupee a year, for 10 years. Make it happen Click! |
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Post by unionstation82 on Nov 12, 2021 20:51:16 GMT -6
40 million rupee a year, for 10 years. Make it happen Click! Too many years! |
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Post by thomasj13 on Nov 12, 2021 21:07:42 GMT -6
40 million rupee a year, for 10 years. Make it happen Click! Too many years! You just don't want him to re-sign |
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Post by unionstation82 on Nov 12, 2021 21:09:23 GMT -6
You just don't want him to re-sign I saw a report say that Crane wants Verlander back on possibly a multi-year deal. So, he’s okay with risk now? |
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Post by kyledriver1980 on Nov 13, 2021 9:26:57 GMT -6
You just don't want him to re-sign I saw a report say that Crane wants Verlander back on possibly a multi-year deal. So, he’s okay with risk now? I believe Crane thinks the offense will still be good without Correa. If Verlander is back to vintage JV, then that will really put our rotation in a great place. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Nov 13, 2021 10:15:29 GMT -6
I saw a report say that Crane wants Verlander back on possibly a multi-year deal. So, he’s okay with risk now? I believe Crane thinks the offense will still be good without Correa. If Verlander is back to vintage JV, then that will really put our rotation in a great place. Doubtful because they’ll rely more on aging stars like Brantley and Gurriel, a rehabbing Bregman, and an inconsistent Yordan. They made it to the World Series without JV, Lance, and mostly Framber. |
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Post by kyledriver1980 on Nov 13, 2021 12:07:11 GMT -6
I believe Crane thinks the offense will still be good without Correa. If Verlander is back to vintage JV, then that will really put our rotation in a great place. Doubtful because they’ll rely more on aging stars like Brantley and Gurriel, a rehabbing Bregman, and an inconsistent Yordan. They made it to the World Series without JV, Lance, and mostly Framber. Yeah but while the offense was kind of a no show in the WS, including Correa, I think we might have had a different WS outcome with JV and LMJ as our 1 & 2. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Nov 13, 2021 13:12:13 GMT -6
Doubtful because they’ll rely more on aging stars like Brantley and Gurriel, a rehabbing Bregman, and an inconsistent Yordan. They made it to the World Series without JV, Lance, and mostly Framber. Yeah but while the offense was kind of a no show in the WS, including Correa, I think we might have had a different WS outcome with JV and LMJ as our 1 & 2. You can’t win games 0-0 so JV and Lance pitching would’ve been irrelevant. Outside of Framber and Javier, the pitching did its job in the World Series. |
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Post by Hunter McCormick on Nov 13, 2021 13:52:47 GMT -6
You can’t win games 0-0 so JV and Lance pitching would’ve been irrelevant. You're correct that you can't win 0-0 but if scoreless after nine, you go to extras. And somebody eventually wins. There were two games where the Astros were shutout. If the Astros had better pitching, could they have taken one of those games to extras and won one of them? Impossible to say. There were two losses that were NOT shutouts. Would better pitching have resulted in a win in one or both of them? Impossible to say. The Astros lost four games. Flipping two of those to wins (regardless of whether those wins came in nine innings) would have resulted in winning the WS. Flipping even just ONE loss to a win would have the series tied at 3-3 and who knows what might have happened in game seven. So better pitching could have been relevant. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Nov 13, 2021 15:04:53 GMT -6
You can’t win games 0-0 so JV and Lance pitching would’ve been irrelevant. You're correct that you can't win 0-0 but if scoreless after nine, you go to extras. And somebody eventually wins. There were two games where the Astros were shutout. If the Astros had better pitching, could they have taken one of those games to extras and won one of them? Impossible to say. There were two losses that were NOT shutouts. Would better pitching have resulted in a win in one or both of them? Impossible to say. The Astros lost four games. Flipping two of those to wins (regardless of whether those wins came in nine innings) would have resulted in winning the WS. Flipping even just ONE loss to a win would have the series tied at 3-3 and who knows what might have happened in game seven. So better pitching could have been relevant. My point was that the offense struggled most so there’s no point in taking away from that part of the team. I wasn’t saying that pitching is insignificant. |
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Post by Hunter McCormick on Nov 13, 2021 16:31:20 GMT -6
My point was that the offense struggled most so there’s no point in taking away from that part of the team. I wasn’t saying that pitching is insignificant. The only thing on offense being 'taken away' from the 2021 WS roster is Carlos Correa. He went 2 for 16 (.125) in the four WS losses. So while you're pointing fingers at the rest of the WS offense, you might want to consider that.  I know it doesn't fit nicely into the pay Carlos, whatever it takes, narrative. But it is what it is. |
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Post by kyledriver1980 on Nov 13, 2021 17:35:51 GMT -6
That's wrong on many levels.You're correct that you can't win 0-0 but if scoreless after nine, you go to extras. And somebody eventually wins. There were two games where the Astros were shutout. If the Astros had better pitching, could they have taken one of those games to extras and won one of them? Impossible to say. There were two losses that were NOT shutouts. Would better pitching have resulted in a win in one or both of them? Impossible to say. The Astros lost four games. Flipping two of those to wins (regardless of whether those wins came in nine innings) would have resulted in winning the WS. Flipping even just ONE loss to a win would have the series tied at 3-3 and who knows what might have happened in game seven. So better pitching could have been relevant. My point was that the offense struggled most so there’s no point in taking away from that part of the team. I wasn’t saying that pitching is insignificant. I want Carlos to stay but there is no point mortgaging the future just for him. I believe without him the offense will be fine and still get the job done. However I do think the pitching staff needs help. LMJ is injury prone, Garcia is still young and has only one successful season under his belt, Framber is up and down, Odorizzi is well Odorizzi, ZG is gone, and Javier is also unproven. So yeah, if we can get 2017-2019 JV I would overpay for that. |
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Post by abregmanfan on Nov 13, 2021 21:03:35 GMT -6
Sign Story/Baez, sign Ray, extend Verlander then call it a day.
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Post by unionstation82 on Nov 13, 2021 23:58:51 GMT -6
Sign Story/Baez, sign Ray, extend Verlander then call it a day. That’s fine but I’m not sold on Story like everyone else. I don’t trust Rockies hitters. If he comes at a worthwhile discount, that’s different. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Nov 14, 2021 0:03:10 GMT -6
My point was that the offense struggled most so there’s no point in taking away from that part of the team. I wasn’t saying that pitching is insignificant. The only thing on offense being 'taken away' from the 2021 WS roster is Carlos Correa. He went 2 for 16 (.125) in the four WS losses. So while you're pointing fingers at the rest of the WS offense, you might want to consider that. I know it doesn't fit nicely into the pay Carlos, whatever it takes, narrative. But it is what it is. I don’t think Correa is perfect, but I think he may be close to that for this team. If they go for a really cheap Story or for Semien, I wouldn’t complain too much about that. They’re already in talks with Marte for Meyers’s unsettled spot in CF so that’s promising. I just want a net overall gain for the offense. |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Nov 14, 2021 5:02:46 GMT -6
The only thing on offense being 'taken away' from the 2021 WS roster is Carlos Correa. He went 2 for 16 (.125) in the four WS losses. So while you're pointing fingers at the rest of the WS offense, you might want to consider that. I know it doesn't fit nicely into the pay Carlos, whatever it takes, narrative. But it is what it is. I don’t think Correa is perfect, but I think he may be close to that for this team. Mein Gott, you really ARE Corch Jr. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Nov 14, 2021 7:55:32 GMT -6
I don’t think Correa is perfect, but I think he may be close to that for this team. Mein Gott, you really ARE Corch Jr. Eh. |
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Post by olpapa on Nov 14, 2021 8:38:27 GMT -6
If a $11 million a year Correa couldn’t bring the WS championship to Houston in 2021, I don’t think a $35 million a year Correa could have either.
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Post by koolade2 on Nov 14, 2021 8:40:52 GMT -6
Agree with olpapa above. Though I see Correa just won the Platinum Award for the Best Defensive Player with 21 Runs Scored.
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Post by unionstation82 on Nov 14, 2021 10:05:07 GMT -6
If a $11 million a year Correa couldn’t bring the WS championship to Houston in 2021, I don’t think a $35 million a year Correa could have either. Neither did $33 million a year Verlander. |
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Post by abregmanfan on Nov 14, 2021 10:23:48 GMT -6
Correa and Seager will get huge contracts. That leaves Story and Baez as possibly the 3rd and 4th ranked SS on the market. Then you have Semien. Any competitive team should be excited to land any of those players. I will be happy with either of the 3-5 ranked ss on the market, they should be 10 mil a season less than Correa and Seager. Use the 10 mil towards the pen.
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Post by thomasj13 on Nov 14, 2021 11:12:27 GMT -6
Correa and Seager will get huge contracts. That leaves Story and Baez as possibly the 3rd and 4th ranked SS on the market. Then you have Semien. Any competitive team should be excited to land any of those players. I will be happy with either of the 3-5 ranked ss on the market, they should be 10 mil a season less than Correa and Seager. Use the 10 mil towards the pen. If Pena is the future, why not let him be the SS? |
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Post by olpapa on Nov 14, 2021 12:42:32 GMT -6
If a $11 million a year Correa couldn’t bring the WS championship to Houston in 2021, I don’t think a $35 million a year Correa could have either. Neither did $33 million a year Verlander. Precisely. |
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Post by abregmanfan on Nov 14, 2021 13:52:53 GMT -6
Correa and Seager will get huge contracts. That leaves Story and Baez as possibly the 3rd and 4th ranked SS on the market. Then you have Semien. Any competitive team should be excited to land any of those players. I will be happy with either of the 3-5 ranked ss on the market, they should be 10 mil a season less than Correa and Seager. Use the 10 mil towards the pen. If Pena is the future, why not let him be the SS? I am good with Pena starting at SS. I was just pointing out that there are quality SS on the market outside of Correa and Seager. Some don't like the idea of Pena at SS. |
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