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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Oct 28, 2021 18:48:24 GMT -6
AMERICAN LEAGUE
PITCHER
José Berríos, Blue Jays
Zack Greinke, Astros
Dallas Keuchel, White Sox
Keuchel, already a four-time Gold Glove Award winner, easily led all pitchers with 12 defensive runs saved this season. Greinke and Berríos tied for second in the AL, along with Chris Flexen, with five DRS apiece. Greinke is a six-time Gold Glove winner, having earned the honor six straight seasons from 2014-19. Berríos, meanwhile, is seeking his first career Gold Glove Award.
CATCHER
Martín Maldonado, Astros
Sean Murphy, A's
Salvador Perez, Royals
Two of the three finalists at AL catcher are previous winners -- Perez is a five-time Gold Glover, most recently winning in 2018, and Maldonado won the award in '17. Maldonado led AL catchers with 19 caught stealings this season, and Perez was one behind him with 18 (and a league-leading 44% caught stealing percentage). Murphy, who could win a Gold Glove for the first time, finished second among AL catchers with 10 Defensive Runs Saved and was tied for the best in the AL with +8 runs saved from pitch framing, per Statcast.
FIRST BASE
Yuli Gurriel, Astros
Matt Olson, A's
Jared Walsh, Angels
The AL’s Gold Glove first baseman in 2018 and 2019, Olson is eyeing his third win after ceding the crown to Seattle’s Evan White a year ago. The A’s slugger led all AL first basemen with 6 DRS, followed closely by Gurriel with 5 DRS. Gurriel could add his first Gold Glove Award to the batting title he already won, while Walsh is seeking his first win as well.
SECOND BASE
David Fletcher, Angels
Whit Merrifield, Royals
Marcus Semien, Blue Jays
There is guaranteed to be a first-time winner at second base, as none of the three finalists has previously won a Gold Glove Award. Merrifield paced all AL second basemen with 14 DRS, while Fletcher (12) finished second and Semien (11) rounded out the top three. The order shuffles a bit when it comes to Outs Above Average, as Fletcher finished first among AL second basemen with +9 OAA, while Semien racked up +7 and Merrifield posted +6.
THIRD BASE
Matt Chapman, A's
José Ramírez, Indians
Joey Wendle, Rays
Chapman is a two-time Gold Glover at third base -- and a two-time Platinum Glove winner, for that matter -- and the A's star led all third basemen with +17 Outs Above Average this season. Ramírez, who's a three-time Silver Slugger but has never won a Gold Glove, was next among AL third basemen with +7 OAA. Wendle, a first-time All-Star for the Rays this year, could add first-time Gold Glove Award winner to his resume, too.
SHORTSTOP
Carlos Correa, Astros
J.P. Crawford, Mariners
Andrelton Simmons, Twins
Correa is eyeing his first career Gold Glove Award after pacing all AL shortstops with 21 DRS. Simmons, a four-time Gold Glove winner, finished second in that category with 14 DRS, while Crawford (eight DRS) is attempting to earn his second consecutive Gold Glove at this position.
LEFT FIELD
Randy Arozarena, Rays
Andrew Benintendi, Royals
Lourdes Gurriel Jr., Blue Jays
Eight-time Gold Glove Award winner Alex Gordon retired after the 2020 season, so the door is open for another player to assert himself as the league’s best defensive left fielder. With Arozarena, Benintendi and Gurriel announced as the finalists, we’re guaranteed to see a first-time winner at this position. The trio tied for the position lead with 7 DRS apiece, while Gurriel led all MLB left fielders with 12 assists -- five more than the next closest left fielder.
CENTER FIELD
Kevin Kiermaier, Rays
Myles Straw, Indians
Michael A. Taylor, Royals
Kiermaier has a chance to win his fourth Gold Glove Award -- the Rays center fielder also won in 2015, '16 and '19. Straw and Taylor, on the other hand, would both be first-time winners. Taylor ranked second among MLB outfielders with +15 Outs Above Average this season, and he racked up 11 outfield assists with his strong arm. The speedy Straw ranked third among AL outfielders with +13 Outs Above Average.
RIGHT FIELD
Hunter Renfroe, Red Sox
Kyle Tucker, Astros
Joey Gallo, Yankees
Last year’s AL Gold Glover in right field, Gallo is trying to make it two in a row, while Tucker and Renfroe are both seeking their first win. Renfroe tied Rangers rookie Adolis García for the MLB lead with 16 outfield assists, with Gallo (14 assists) close behind. Gallo and Tucker also produced 11 DRS apiece in right field, tied with Aaron Judge for second at the position behind García
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Post by abregmanfan on Oct 28, 2021 20:48:54 GMT -6
Read today that Semien has hired Boras to represent him. Ugh
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Post by Saint on Oct 28, 2021 21:01:27 GMT -6
Correa should be our only GG winner although Tucker is darn close.
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Post by Saint on Oct 28, 2021 21:02:09 GMT -6
Read today that Semien has hired Boras to represent him. Ugh That doesn't matter to our new FO. It's not Drayton up there anymore! |
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Post by blcoach8 on Oct 28, 2021 22:38:58 GMT -6
Read today that Semien has hired Boras to represent him. Ugh He is planning on cashing on his big offensive year. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Oct 28, 2021 22:39:53 GMT -6
Read today that Semien has hired Boras to represent him. Ugh That doesn't matter to our new FO. It's not Drayton up there anymore! If we are going to overpay for a SS, I'd rather his name be Correa than Semien. |
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Post by Saint on Oct 29, 2021 7:02:09 GMT -6
That doesn't matter to our new FO. It's not Drayton up there anymore! If we are going to overpay for a SS, I'd rather his name be Correa than Semien. Depends on how long we're overpaying them. |
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Post by dafish on Oct 29, 2021 7:23:27 GMT -6
That doesn't matter to our new FO. It's not Drayton up there anymore! If we are going to overpay for a SS, I'd rather his name be Correa than Semien. As far as I am concerned, every MLB player is overpaid. But, more power to them, because when the supply/demand bubble bursts....... They'll be crashing down back to earth like 17th Century Dutch Tulips. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Oct 29, 2021 9:32:44 GMT -6
If we are going to overpay for a SS, I'd rather his name be Correa than Semien. Depends on how long we're overpaying them. We need to consider that Correa is not only a better SS than Semien, but, he is 4 years younger. Semien had a career year with the bat, but, can he be counted on to keep producing at that level? I doubt it. Semien also spent this season playing second base. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Oct 29, 2021 9:41:08 GMT -6
All I know is if Correa doesn’t get his GG this year, they should just do away with them.
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Post by thomasj13 on Oct 29, 2021 10:28:48 GMT -6
Depends on how long we're overpaying them. We need to consider that Correa is not only a better SS than Semien, but, he is 4 years younger. Semien had a career year with the bat, but, can he be counted on to keep producing at that level? I doubt it. Semien also spent this season playing second base. Yes he is 4 years old, but it's just a matter of how long you have to be married to that contract... that's the issue. Correa 8 year deal <<<< Seimen 3 year deal. Now, I will say a Correa 3 year/110M >>>>>> Seimen 3 year/80M deal. I think a 3 year deal compliments the Astros window of opportunity. Altuve and Bregman are both free agents after the 2024 season. Astros have Leon, Pena and Lee looking to make the starting roster either next season or the following. The Astros should be offering Alvarez and Tucker 5 year extensions if not next season, then the following. I know the Astros have been fortunate with turning in lower marquee pitching prospects into starters, but eventually their luck might run out, especially with Strom considering retirement. Therefore, The Astros need to have a good amount of money budgeted in for free agent starting pitchers |
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Post by blcoach8 on Oct 29, 2021 11:09:58 GMT -6
All I know is if Correa doesn’t get his GG this year, they should just do away with them. If he doesn't get it, it will be because he plays for the Astros, the villains of baseball. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Oct 29, 2021 11:15:30 GMT -6
We need to consider that Correa is not only a better SS than Semien, but, he is 4 years younger. Semien had a career year with the bat, but, can he be counted on to keep producing at that level? I doubt it. Semien also spent this season playing second base. Yes he is 4 years old, but it's just a matter of how long you have to be married to that contract... that's the issue. Correa 8 year deal <<<< Seimen 3 year deal. Now, I will say a Correa 3 year/110M >>>>>> Seimen 3 year/80M deal. I think a 3 year deal compliments the Astros window of opportunity. Altuve and Bregman are both free agents after the 2024 season. Astros have Leon, Pena and Lee looking to make the starting roster either next season or the following. The Astros should be offering Alvarez and Tucker 5 year extensions if not next season, then the following. I know the Astros have been fortunate with turning in lower marquee pitching prospects into starters, but eventually their luck might run out, especially with Strom considering retirement. Therefore, The Astros need to have a good amount of money budgeted in for free agent starting pitchers If we can get Correa to accept and 8 year deal, that would be great. If he won't, I think it's time to move. If he really wants to stay here...as he claims......and, he is offered at least $30 million per year, he will take it. As you said, we have Leon, Pena, and Lee who should be ready, maybe a couple by next year. We also have Meyers, McCormick, and Siri, who I would trade. Extending Tucker and Alvarez need to be a priority as does re-signing Graveman. With the Greinke contract, and, most likely Verlander's, off the books, we have money to sign Correa to an 8yr/$240 million dollar deal and go after at least one top FA starting pitcher. Robbie Ray would be high on my list of FA's to target. |
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Post by Saint on Oct 29, 2021 11:28:58 GMT -6
Depends on how long we're overpaying them. We need to consider that Correa is not only a better SS than Semien, but, he is 4 years younger. Semien had a career year with the bat, but, can he be counted on to keep producing at that level? I doubt it. Semien also spent this season playing second base. Age only matters when it comes to contract length. Obviously we wouldn't sign Semien to a contract as long as Correa. I don't think he'll produce as well as he did this year, but could he still produce very well? Sure. It probably comes down to do you want a pay guy $30-35 million a year for 10 years, or $25-30 million a year for 4-5 years? |
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Post by thomasj13 on Oct 29, 2021 12:36:47 GMT -6
Yes he is 4 years old, but it's just a matter of how long you have to be married to that contract... that's the issue. Correa 8 year deal <<<< Seimen 3 year deal. Now, I will say a Correa 3 year/110M >>>>>> Seimen 3 year/80M deal. I think a 3 year deal compliments the Astros window of opportunity. Altuve and Bregman are both free agents after the 2024 season. Astros have Leon, Pena and Lee looking to make the starting roster either next season or the following. The Astros should be offering Alvarez and Tucker 5 year extensions if not next season, then the following. I know the Astros have been fortunate with turning in lower marquee pitching prospects into starters, but eventually their luck might run out, especially with Strom considering retirement. Therefore, The Astros need to have a good amount of money budgeted in for free agent starting pitchers If we can get Correa to accept and 8 year deal, that would be great. If he won't, I think it's time to move. If he really wants to stay here...as he claims......and, he is offered at least $30 million per year, he will take it. As you said, we have Leon, Pena, and Lee who should be ready, maybe a couple by next year. We also have Meyers, McCormick, and Siri, who I would trade. Extending Tucker and Alvarez need to be a priority as does re-signing Graveman. With the Greinke contract, and, most likely Verlander's, off the books, we have money to sign Correa to an 8yr/$240 million dollar deal and go after at least one top FA starting pitcher. Robbie Ray would be high on my list of FA's to target. I think if Carlos out prices himself for the Astros, the Astros Will get a good shortstop in a 3 year deal... Money saved will be put towards much needed starting pitching and relievers... Crane has not been shy on spending money. Luhnow and Click have been strategic how many was spent. 5 straight ALCS is proof positive they know what they're doing. |
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Post by dafish on Oct 29, 2021 12:56:26 GMT -6
If we can get Correa to accept and 8 year deal, that would be great. If he won't, I think it's time to move. If he really wants to stay here...as he claims......and, he is offered at least $30 million per year, he will take it. As you said, we have Leon, Pena, and Lee who should be ready, maybe a couple by next year. We also have Meyers, McCormick, and Siri, who I would trade. Extending Tucker and Alvarez need to be a priority as does re-signing Graveman. With the Greinke contract, and, most likely Verlander's, off the books, we have money to sign Correa to an 8yr/$240 million dollar deal and go after at least one top FA starting pitcher. Robbie Ray would be high on my list of FA's to target. I think if Carlos out prices himself for the Astros, the Astros Will get a good shortstop in a 3 year deal... Money saved will be put towards much needed starting pitching and relievers... Crane has not been shy on spending money. Luhnow and Click have been strategic how many was spent. 5 straight ALCS is proof positive they know what they're doing. Correa has been quoted that he wants to go to a team that is serious about being rebuilt. Now, I am not a mind reader, but that tends to make me think he has already made up his mind to leave. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Oct 29, 2021 13:07:57 GMT -6
I think if Carlos out prices himself for the Astros, the Astros Will get a good shortstop in a 3 year deal... Money saved will be put towards much needed starting pitching and relievers... Crane has not been shy on spending money. Luhnow and Click have been strategic how many was spent. 5 straight ALCS is proof positive they know what they're doing. Correa has been quoted that he wants to go to a team that is serious about being rebuilt. Now, I am not a mind reader, but that tends to make me think he has already made up his mind to leave. Detroit, Dallas or Miami? |
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Post by talshill on Oct 29, 2021 13:24:50 GMT -6
I don't think there's any way Correa takes a 3 year deal even at stupid money. He wants to get paid as if he's the premier SS in the game (and he might be). He's probably gone.
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Post by dafish on Oct 29, 2021 13:35:03 GMT -6
I don't think there's any way Correa takes a 3 year deal even at stupid money. He wants to get paid as if he's the premier SS in the game (and he might be). He's probably gone. Wasn't there something written a few years ago about his wife desiring to move to LA or NY? |
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Post by blcoach8 on Oct 29, 2021 13:43:52 GMT -6
I think if Carlos out prices himself for the Astros, the Astros Will get a good shortstop in a 3 year deal... Money saved will be put towards much needed starting pitching and relievers... Crane has not been shy on spending money. Luhnow and Click have been strategic how many was spent. 5 straight ALCS is proof positive they know what they're doing. Correa has been quoted that he wants to go to a team that is serious about being rebuilt. Now, I am not a mind reader, but that tends to make me think he has already made up his mind to leave. Hinch and the Tigers are where he will end up if he leaves. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Oct 29, 2021 13:45:19 GMT -6
Correa has been quoted that he wants to go to a team that is serious about being rebuilt. Now, I am not a mind reader, but that tends to make me think he has already made up his mind to leave. Detroit, Dallas or Miami? Of those three, I'd say Detroit. I can't see him wanting to play for the Rangers, and, probably not the Marlins unless he wants to be on a team owned by Jeter. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Oct 29, 2021 14:00:17 GMT -6
If Carlos leaves, the Astros will be less formidable.... Unless, the Astros are able to still get a good shortstop, and offset that money that could have gone to Carlos, towards starting pitching and relieving. Then maybe, the team could actually be better overall...
I will also say, if Carlos does sign elsewhere, chances are he will be playing for a less formidable team himself.
So, we will find out if Carlos' primary goal is to get paid the most, while team success + camaraderie are distant second and thirds.
He's going to be mega rich regardless, but the Astros are the given place for success and team cohesiveness.
Carlos; Trace Adkins: You're gonna miss this. You're going want this back
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Post by dafish on Oct 29, 2021 14:04:46 GMT -6
Carlos; Trace Adkins: You're gonna miss this. You're going want this back Wonder if CC keeps in contact with Springer? I understand George has had a little free time the past few weeks. |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Oct 29, 2021 15:55:26 GMT -6
I don't think there's any way Correa takes a 3 year deal even at stupid money. He wants to get paid as if he's the premier SS in the game (and he might be). He's probably gone. Wasn't there something written a few years ago about his wife desiring to move to LA or NY? Yes, but it was written by Corch. |
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Post by Saint on Nov 7, 2021 22:57:14 GMT -6
Congrats to CC and Yuli. I am quite surprised that Yuli won but good for him. Unfortunately GGs lost a lot of their meaning in the late 90's and early 2000's, but it's always nice to see some extra Astros hardware.
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Post by unionstation82 on Nov 8, 2021 10:00:54 GMT -6
Congrats to CC and Yuli. I am quite surprised that Yuli won but good for him. Unfortunately GGs lost a lot of their meaning in the late 90's and early 2000's, but it's always nice to see some extra Astros hardware. Why are you surprised? |
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Post by Saint on Nov 8, 2021 23:02:42 GMT -6
Congrats to CC and Yuli. I am quite surprised that Yuli won but good for him. Unfortunately GGs lost a lot of their meaning in the late 90's and early 2000's, but it's always nice to see some extra Astros hardware. Why are you surprised? Olson had the reputation and the better DRS. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Nov 8, 2021 23:03:40 GMT -6
Olson had the reputation and the better DRS. You just don't like Hispanics! |
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Post by Saint on Nov 8, 2021 23:05:35 GMT -6
Olson had the reputation and the better DRS. You just don't like Hispanics! I have to; I'm raising two of them! |
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Post by thomasj13 on Nov 9, 2021 5:51:19 GMT -6
You just don't like Hispanics! I have to; I'm raising two of them! Thank goodness, it's bad time to be white...All kidding aside, it's cool that you met your future wife on an Astros forum. |
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