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Post by thomasj13 on Jun 3, 2022 14:01:56 GMT -6
I would ask about both K. Ruiz C and Josh Bell. Korey Lee would be on the table as well as Jose Urquidy. I'm sure we will have to make room for Mcullers and Jake soon. While trying to finagle a deal there would see if Keuchal would like to come out of the BP as a LH specialist? Then I'm just looking around seeing if I could find a RP some where maybe another OF to eventually take over for Brantley Andrew Benintendi would be a great add for LF. We have some pieces that I think the Royals would entertain. Forrest Whitley would be my starting point. Hoping he intrigues em alittle. And yes I understand our farm is week. But along as it doesn't cost us Hunter Brown ot Whitiker I'm all for it. We don't have to tear it all away. But if we can add and get the ball rolling on extensions then go for it. We could still trade Jake Odorizzi Why is Whitaker untouchable? |
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Post by nathangarza29 on Jun 3, 2022 14:32:46 GMT -6
And yes I understand our farm is week. But along as it doesn't cost us Hunter Brown ot Whitiker I'm all for it. We don't have to tear it all away. But if we can add and get the ball rolling on extensions then go for it. We could still trade Jake Odorizzi Why is Whitaker untouchable? There's something about him . I can't put my finger on it but I think after this year next year he is gonna turn some heada |
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Post by bearbryant on Jun 3, 2022 14:42:11 GMT -6
Why is Whitaker untouchable? There's something about him . I can't put my finger on it but I think after this year next year he is gonna turn some heada |
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Post by unionstation82 on Jun 3, 2022 14:47:03 GMT -6
There's something about him . I can't put my finger on it but I think after this year next year he is gonna turn some heada You giving up on FW? |
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Post by bearbryant on Jun 3, 2022 14:56:19 GMT -6
You're just saying that cause Mark Appel turned his career around You giving up on FW? |
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Post by bearbryant on Jun 3, 2022 15:09:19 GMT -6
And yes I understand our farm is week. But along as it doesn't cost us Hunter Brown ot Whitiker I'm all for it. We don't have to tear it all away. But if we can add and get the ball rolling on extensions then go for it. We could still trade Jake Odorizzi Why is Whitaker untouchable? |
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Post by unionstation82 on Jun 3, 2022 15:25:41 GMT -6
Not really. Just curious where the optimism comes from The final judgment with him is seeing how he rebounds from TJS. This is his last straw. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Jun 3, 2022 15:56:22 GMT -6
Why is Whitaker untouchable? There's something about him . I can't put my finger on it but I think after this year next year he is gonna turn some heada He has shown nothing so far... So it might be a waste to trade him, because you might not get enough for him. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Jun 3, 2022 15:57:13 GMT -6
Not really. Just curious where the optimism comes from The final judgment with him is seeing how he rebounds from TJS. This is his last straw. You just had to bring up Straw! |
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Post by unionstation82 on Jun 3, 2022 17:16:43 GMT -6
The final judgment with him is seeing how he rebounds from TJS. This is his last straw. You just had to bring up Straw! Poor guy, but there was a CF logjam. |
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Post by nathangarza29 on Jun 3, 2022 19:17:17 GMT -6
Whitiker is only 19yrs old. He has a 6-4 frame with power. He needs alittle seasoning but he has a chance to grow into a great power hitter. His swing has room to grow and he does swing and miss. But he is getting better at recognizing the pitch. A couple more years he could be a Joey Gallo power .270 avg hitter if he can cut down on the SO's.
I've givin all the way up on Whitley.
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Post by thomasj13 on Jun 3, 2022 19:21:09 GMT -6
Whitiker is only 19yrs old. He has a 6-4 frame with power. He needs alittle seasoning but he has a chance to grow into a great power hitter. His swing has room to grow and he does swing and miss. But he is getting better at recognizing the pitch. A couple more years he could be a Joey Gallo power .270 avg hitter if he can cut down on the SO's. I've givin all the way up on Whitley. And that's why we call it the long shot. |
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Post by Ashitaka on Jun 3, 2022 23:09:58 GMT -6
Whitley's talent, and therefore potential, is not at all less than it was on the day he was drafted. That said, the very strong consensus among industry professionals I've encountered over the years (including actual scouts, people holding PhDs in sports medicine, and others) is that "injured players tend to keep being injured." The why is not understood, but the history behind the adage can't be ignored. The guys that overcome frequent injury, especially when they're young, especially pitchers, is extremely tiny. I emphasize all those words like I do to try to get the point accross clearly; a young pitcher getting injured once is usually not a big deal. But each subsequent significant injury statistically lowers his chance at success fairly dramatically. Whitley has had a multitude of major injuries, including TJS, and hasn't thrown a professional pitch since September 2019. This is not to say we should give up on Whitley, but it is to say that the likelihood that he ever becomes a consistent MLB pitcher is extremely small at this point.
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Post by Ashitaka on Jun 3, 2022 23:12:06 GMT -6
Some math on Yordan; since cap hits are calculated via AAV, he will be suddenly expensive starting next season, but like Bregman, will count against our cap less than his yearly salary in his final three years. His AAV is $19.17 million, and that's what his cap hit will be, despite making $26 million in each of those final three years.
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Post by Ashitaka on Jun 3, 2022 23:13:06 GMT -6
And LOL, Angels lost 10-0 to the manager-less Phillies for their 9th loss in a row. They are a single game over .500 now.
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Post by thomasj13 on Jun 4, 2022 7:16:16 GMT -6
Whitley's talent, and therefore potential, is not at all less than it was on the day he was drafted. That said, the very strong consensus among industry professionals I've encountered over the years (including actual scouts, people holding PhDs in sports medicine, and others) is that "injured players tend to keep being injured." The why is not understood, but the history behind the adage can't be ignored. The guys that overcome frequent injury, especially when they're young, especially pitchers, is extremely tiny. I emphasize all those words like I do to try to get the point accross clearly; a young pitcher getting injured once is usually not a big deal. But each subsequent significant injury statistically lowers his chance at success fairly dramatically. Whitley has had a multitude of major injuries, including TJS, and hasn't thrown a professional pitch since September 2019. This is not to say we should give up on Whitley, but it is to say that the likelihood that he ever becomes a consistent MLB pitcher is extremely small at this point. So you're telling me there is a chance? Yeah! |
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Post by thomasj13 on Jun 4, 2022 7:16:47 GMT -6
And LOL, Angels lost 10-0 to the manager-less Phillies for their 9th loss in a row. They are a single game over .500 now. Donde esta Churchill? |
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Post by thomasj13 on Jun 4, 2022 8:11:06 GMT -6
Trey Mancini, RF, is a FA after the season. If Baltimore was for a change sensible in their asking price, should the Astros be interested?
Brantley LF, Tucker CF, Mancini RF.
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Post by Ashitaka on Jun 4, 2022 9:22:59 GMT -6
Trey Mancini, RF, is a FA after the season. If Baltimore was for a change sensible in their asking price, should the Astros be interested? Brantley LF, Tucker CF, Mancini RF. Meyers played his first rehab game last night. Should be ready in a few weeks (certainly by July 1st), and has a chance to match Mancini's production once Mancini's BAbip comes back to earth. |
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Post by Ashitaka on Jun 4, 2022 9:23:23 GMT -6
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Post by thomasj13 on Jun 4, 2022 9:42:01 GMT -6
Trey Mancini, RF, is a FA after the season. If Baltimore was for a change sensible in their asking price, should the Astros be interested? Brantley LF, Tucker CF, Mancini RF. Meyers played his first rehab game last night. Should be ready in a few weeks (certainly by July 1st), and has a chance to match Mancini's production once Mancini's BAbip comes back to earth. Looking for a solid veteran bat that might not cost so much via trade, because they're a pending FA. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Jun 4, 2022 9:46:32 GMT -6
Trey Mancini, RF, is a FA after the season. If Baltimore was for a change sensible in their asking price, should the Astros be interested? Brantley LF, Tucker CF, Mancini RF. Meyers played his first rehab game last night. Should be ready in a few weeks (certainly by July 1st), and has a chance to match Mancini's production once Mancini's BAbip comes back to earth. I would caution fans putting full faith in Meyers given the short history he’s had in the majors. I feel like he’s the best all-around talent they have at CF, though. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Jun 4, 2022 9:47:25 GMT -6
Whitley's talent, and therefore potential, is not at all less than it was on the day he was drafted. That said, the very strong consensus among industry professionals I've encountered over the years (including actual scouts, people holding PhDs in sports medicine, and others) is that "injured players tend to keep being injured." The why is not understood, but the history behind the adage can't be ignored. The guys that overcome frequent injury, especially when they're young, especially pitchers, is extremely tiny. I emphasize all those words like I do to try to get the point accross clearly; a young pitcher getting injured once is usually not a big deal. But each subsequent significant injury statistically lowers his chance at success fairly dramatically. Whitley has had a multitude of major injuries, including TJS, and hasn't thrown a professional pitch since September 2019. This is not to say we should give up on Whitley, but it is to say that the likelihood that he ever becomes a consistent MLB pitcher is extremely small at this point. Besides being busted for adderall and the TJS, what other setbacks did he have? |
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Post by Ashitaka on Jun 4, 2022 10:37:15 GMT -6
Whitley's talent, and therefore potential, is not at all less than it was on the day he was drafted. That said, the very strong consensus among industry professionals I've encountered over the years (including actual scouts, people holding PhDs in sports medicine, and others) is that "injured players tend to keep being injured." The why is not understood, but the history behind the adage can't be ignored. The guys that overcome frequent injury, especially when they're young, especially pitchers, is extremely tiny. I emphasize all those words like I do to try to get the point accross clearly; a young pitcher getting injured once is usually not a big deal. But each subsequent significant injury statistically lowers his chance at success fairly dramatically. Whitley has had a multitude of major injuries, including TJS, and hasn't thrown a professional pitch since September 2019. This is not to say we should give up on Whitley, but it is to say that the likelihood that he ever becomes a consistent MLB pitcher is extremely small at this point. Besides being busted for adderall and the TJS, what other setbacks did he have? Oblique injury cost him a lot of 2018, plus a bunch of other more minor things. Shoulder fatigue landed him on the IL in 2019. And then of course he's on the IL for his elbow again right now, two months and counting. |
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Post by m240 on Jun 4, 2022 11:16:43 GMT -6
I do not know about you guys but I am willing to add two more bats to our line up at the expense of a couple of starting pitchers between now and the trade deadline. We have a surplus of pitching talent right now that is bordering on the absurd.
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Post by unionstation82 on Jun 4, 2022 11:24:19 GMT -6
Besides being busted for adderall and the TJS, what other setbacks did he have? Oblique injury cost him a lot of 2018, plus a bunch of other more minor things. Shoulder fatigue landed him on the IL in 2019. And then of course he's on the IL for his elbow again right now, two months and counting. He’s injured again? Yeah, that’s enough for me. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Jun 4, 2022 11:25:57 GMT -6
I do not know about you guys but I am willing to add two more bats to our line up at the expense of a couple of starting pitchers between now and the trade deadline. We have a surplus of pitching talent right now that is bordering on the absurd. Yeah, with so many starting pitchers clogging things up, it would be silly to not trade any for needs. |
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Post by Saint on Jun 4, 2022 12:22:45 GMT -6
Have Odorizzi come back and make a couple good starts then trade him while his value is high.
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Post by koolade2 on Jun 4, 2022 13:09:27 GMT -6
What would it take to get someone like Benintendi he plays left field and looks like a good offensive player
MLB has him listed as one of the players that would probably be traded
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Post by thomasj13 on Jun 4, 2022 13:25:49 GMT -6
What would it take to get someone like Benintendi he plays left field and looks like a good offensive player MLB has him listed as one of the players that would probably be traded Sure.... depends upon the asking price. |
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