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Post by paastrosfan on Oct 21, 2022 15:06:27 GMT -6
Dubón'll probly get one start in CF this trip. His arm is better than Meyers' hence the roster move. Which is embarrassing cause Dubón is an IF
Surely we wouldn't bench Chas in favor of Dubon... [br Chas is my man, Millersville University. But it is not what we think, it is the man in the dugout.
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Post by olpapa on Oct 21, 2022 15:06:29 GMT -6
All these sports shows up here are crying how could the game end on Carpenters check swing. If you go back to last season's NLCS the final game between the Giants-Dodgers the game ended on a Giant player's check swing. I can't remember the player but to end your whole year like that has to be a killer for the fan base. They should go back and watch a replay. Carpenter clearly swung at the pitch. There is no doubt. If he didn’t swing, then they have a legitimate complaint, but he did swing. Those New Yorkers are so accustomed to being treated favorably to the detriment of other teams that they feel entitled to favorable treatment. I am sure it came as a shock to them when the umpire made the correct call and it went against them. Piss on them.
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Post by paastrosfan on Oct 21, 2022 15:08:58 GMT -6
All these sports shows up here are crying how could the game end on Carpenters check swing. If you go back to last season's NLCS the final game between the Giants-Dodgers the game ended on a Giant player's check swing. I can't remember the player but to end your whole year like that has to be a killer for the fan base. They should go back and watch a replay. Carpenter clearly swung at the pitch. There is no doubt. If he didn’t swing, then they have a legitimate complaint, but he did swing. Those New Yorkers are so accustomed to being treated favorably to the detriment of other teams that they feel entitled to favorable treatment. I am sure it came as a shock to them when the umpire made the correct call and it went against them. Piss on them. His knees even buckled on the swing. Also it was a whole follow through. Why Boone is putting him on the spot since he hasn't played regular since August 8th.
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Post by Saint on Oct 21, 2022 15:09:02 GMT -6
I can't even fathom doing that. Put Mancini in LF and let Yordan DH. Leave Chas in CF. Who knows, maybe Mancini will start hitting. At least there's a chance. Mancini has a respectable .740 OPS at Yankee Stadium with 7 HRs. Or let Hensley play LF. He can't be any worse than Mancini or Yordan out there. I said earlier today I'd start Mancini in Game 3. That's a hope. I'm talking about them and why they put Dubón on the roster for this series. That's a prediction I figured Dubon was filling the Derek Fisher role as defensive replacement and/or pinch runner.
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Post by Saint on Oct 21, 2022 15:11:09 GMT -6
So apparently Lance's elbow got hit by a champagne bottle somehow during the celebration so they're just giving him an extra day to rest. He says he feels fine and he's good to go. I guess if it tingles on Sunday we got cha-chaI don't think there's anyway that Lance doesn't pitch in this series against the Yankees. I would bet he is highly motivated to kick their *ss.
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Post by paastrosfan on Oct 21, 2022 15:12:26 GMT -6
You are most likely right with Dubon getting a start. If Dusty is going with Dubon in CF and Chas in lF any game this series, it may as well be in game 3. Only Astros with a hit off Cole this year are Maldonado and Mancini. I am probably thinking last season where Yordan had a 2 homer game off Cole.
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Post by Saint on Oct 21, 2022 15:12:48 GMT -6
Yeah it was obviously a swing. I just don't get their whiny excuses when they have legitimate excuses. Rain outs really hurt them for the beginning of this series and they're down two starting players.
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Post by bearbryant on Oct 21, 2022 15:14:13 GMT -6
Surely we wouldn't bench Chas in favor of Dubon... [br Chas is my man, Millersville University. But it is not what we think, it is the man in the dugout. I don't think the man's gonna bench Chas. He's been tough on him, but I think he's earned his stripes with Dusty by now
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Post by Saint on Oct 21, 2022 15:20:29 GMT -6
If the series ended today, I'd have Pena and Chas as first and second in series MVP. You can't bench Chas at this point. Not to mention again, he was technically our 5th best hitter this year.
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Post by bearbryant on Oct 21, 2022 15:32:57 GMT -6
I said earlier today I'd start Mancini in Game 3. That's a hope. I'm talking about them and why they put Dubón on the roster for this series. That's a prediction I figured Dubon was filling the Derek Fisher role as defensive replacement and/or pinch runner. Pretty much. I'm just predicting he'll get a start cause the other guy they overvalue (Díaz) isn't doing so hot
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Post by paastrosfan on Oct 21, 2022 15:39:35 GMT -6
[br Chas is my man, Millersville University. But it is not what we think, it is the man in the dugout. I don't think the man's gonna bench Chas. He's been tough on him, but I think he's earned his stripes with Dusty by nowIt comes down to having Chas bat in the line up over punch and Judy hitter Dubon.
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Post by bearbryant on Oct 21, 2022 15:42:30 GMT -6
I don't think the man's gonna bench Chas. He's been tough on him, but I think he's earned his stripes with Dusty by now It comes down to having Chas bat in the line up over punch and Judy hitter Dubon. I think they'd slide Chas over to LF and have both if
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Post by Hunter McCormick on Oct 21, 2022 16:04:12 GMT -6
Just to keep adding to this thread. Say the Astros re-signed Verlander, would you be opposed to them trading away Urquidy and Meyers to the Royals for Michael Taylor (CF) and Barlow (reliever)? Would the Astros have to sweeten this deal? Okay, lets' break this down. Pitchers:You're trading away three years of team control (3 arb years) of a good, solid starting pitcher for ... Two years of team control (2 arb years) of a very good reliever. I'd hesitate to call that equal if the years of control were the same. It definitely comes up short for the Astros, given the disparity in years of control. CF:You're trading away five years of team control (2 pre-arb years + 3 arb years) of a decent glove who did well at the plate last year and struggled at the plate this year for ... One year of team control (contract for $4.5MM expires at the end of next season) of a great glove who was slightly below average at the plate this year and definitely below average at the plate for his career. I'm not ready to give up on Meyers yet and certainly not for just one year of a defensive upgrade. If KC would give up Taylor and Barlow, for Javier alone, I'd pull the trigger. Then option Jake to the minors next season and see he pans out long-term. JMO
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Post by m240 on Oct 21, 2022 16:24:28 GMT -6
Just to keep adding to this thread. Say the Astros re-signed Verlander, would you be opposed to them trading away Urquidy and Meyers to the Royals for Michael Taylor (CF) and Barlow (reliever)? Would the Astros have to sweeten this deal? Okay, lets' break this down. Pitchers:You're trading away three years of team control (3 arb years) of a good, solid starting pitcher for ... Two years of team control (2 arb years) of a very good reliever. I'd hesitate to call that equal if the years of control were the same. It definitely comes up short for the Astros, given the disparity in years of control. CF:You're trading away five years of team control (2 pre-arb years + 3 arb years) of a decent glove who did well at the plate last year and struggled at the plate this year for ... One year of team control (contract for $4.5MM expires at the end of next season) of a great glove who was slightly below average at the plate this year and definitely below average at the plate for his career. I'm not ready to give up on Meyers yet and certainly not for just one year of a defensive upgrade. If KC would give up Taylor and Barlow, for Javier alone, I'd pull the trigger. Then option Jake to the minors next season and see he pans out long-term. JMO Javier is about as close to untouchable as you can get.
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Post by Ashitaka on Oct 21, 2022 16:29:43 GMT -6
Dusty is having a great postseason so far. I'd still rather move on, personally. I won't be upset if he's still here, but I'd like somebody that handles our younger players better. Same.
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Post by Ashitaka on Oct 21, 2022 16:35:32 GMT -6
Wasn't predicting Javier to start, but I like it. Yankees are pretty RH-heavy and Javier worked them in the past. Plus coming off an off-day with a bunch of long-man options like Luis and Martinez and Urquidy, if he can give you just 3-4 good innings and then need to be pulled, it might not be an issue.
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Post by talshill on Oct 21, 2022 18:21:36 GMT -6
They're not going to sit Altuve. I'd swap out someone for Diaz though.
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Post by unionstation82 on Oct 21, 2022 18:24:21 GMT -6
Start it off with a bunt base hit. Lack of bunting doesn't annoy me as much as it does you, but for a team so swing-happy early in the count the first time through the lineup you'd think you'd see that more early on. Especially when runs are at a premium this deep in the pennant chaseI like bunting when a hitter is mired in an 0/23 slump, especially if the player has speed.
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Post by Saint on Oct 21, 2022 18:54:34 GMT -6
Phillies and Padres battling. Lots of traffic but only 1-1.
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Post by paastrosfan on Oct 21, 2022 19:10:50 GMT -6
Phillies and Padres battling. Lots of traffic but only 1-1. Musgrove isn't fooling anyone tonight.
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Post by paastrosfan on Oct 21, 2022 20:17:03 GMT -6
If the Stros are fortunate enough to advance to the WS, either team they face we could erase decades ago sadness of what could have been with a win.
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Post by olpapa on Oct 21, 2022 20:44:00 GMT -6
Just to keep adding to this thread. Say the Astros re-signed Verlander, would you be opposed to them trading away Urquidy and Meyers to the Royals for Michael Taylor (CF) and Barlow (reliever)? Would the Astros have to sweeten this deal? Eew no. No thanks. What would you think of Urquidy and Meyers to the D’backs for Jake McCarthy and Kyle Nelson?
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Post by paastrosfan on Oct 21, 2022 21:00:47 GMT -6
Another ninth inning check swing strike, Profar got screwed on that call.
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Post by Saint on Oct 21, 2022 21:06:03 GMT -6
What would you think of Urquidy and Meyers to the D’backs for Jake McCarthy and Kyle Nelson? I'd be okay with it. McCarthy is likely an improvement over Meyers, but neither have been around long enough for it to be given. I kind of feel like we could get more for Urquidy, but maybe I'm overvaluing him ... Edit: Nelson is better than I thought. Yeah that's a good deal if they need starters more than relievers.
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Post by kyledriver1980 on Oct 21, 2022 21:07:18 GMT -6
Ready for this game! I want to beat Cole and go up 3-0!
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Post by Ashitaka on Oct 21, 2022 22:22:34 GMT -6
What would you think of Urquidy and Meyers to the D’backs for Jake McCarthy and Kyle Nelson? I'd be okay with it. McCarthy is likely an improvement over Meyers, but neither have been around long enough for it to be given. I kind of feel like we could get more for Urquidy, but maybe I'm overvaluing him ... Edit: Nelson is better than I thought. Yeah that's a good deal if they need starters more than relievers. No, everyone else is undervaluing him. McCarthy is probably not better than Meyers, in fact Meyers may end up better than him in the end, and Nelson is a reliever whose ERA was much lower than his xFIP. Meanwhile Urquidy is a good #3 on many teams, but Astros fans undervalue him because we're so deep here that he looks unimpressive in comparison.
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Post by Ashitaka on Oct 22, 2022 5:10:03 GMT -6
LOL I may have missed it if it was already discussed, but did anyone see that LMJ said he's going in GM4 instead of GM3 because someone accidentally smashed a champagne bottle into his pitching elbow during the celebration in Seattle?
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Post by thomasj13 on Oct 22, 2022 5:51:02 GMT -6
LOL I may have missed it if it was already discussed, but did anyone see that LMJ said he's going in GM4 instead of GM3 because someone accidentally smashed a champagne bottle into his pitching elbow during the celebration in Seattle? Of all the Astros players, of course, the one to be injured in a celebration, would be McFragile.
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Post by thomasj13 on Oct 22, 2022 5:55:29 GMT -6
LOL I may have missed it if it was already discussed, but did anyone see that LMJ said he's going in GM4 instead of GM3 because someone accidentally smashed a champagne bottle into his pitching elbow during the celebration in Seattle? Lance, with his propensity to injury, needs to take cues from Cole, onto how to safely celebrate.
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Post by bearbryant on Oct 22, 2022 6:59:03 GMT -6
So…., Mancini at DH vs Cole? Yordan at DH, Hensley in LF. They love rotating IFs into the OF .. next man up right
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