talshill
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Post by talshill on Nov 7, 2023 20:04:28 GMT -6
BTW, it’s the off-season. It’s his time to shine. Where is he?
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Post by thomasj13 on Nov 8, 2023 10:44:18 GMT -6
BTW, it’s the off-season. It’s his time to shine. Where is he? Rumor/sources: Nathan/VD is in a Turkish Prison.
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Post by unionstation82 on Nov 8, 2023 10:45:52 GMT -6
BTW, it’s the off-season. It’s his time to shine. Where is he? Rumor/sources: Nathan/VD is in a Turkish Prison. Midnight Express?
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Post by thomasj13 on Nov 8, 2023 11:14:26 GMT -6
Rumor/sources: Nathan/VD is in a Turkish Prison. Midnight Express? Yes, and Airplane
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Nov 8, 2023 13:50:25 GMT -6
Rumor/sources: Nathan/VD is in a Turkish Prison. Midnight Express? Great movie
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Post by unionstation82 on Nov 8, 2023 13:53:30 GMT -6
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Nov 8, 2023 15:39:43 GMT -6
Cocaine Washington hired by the Angels
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Post by bearbryant on Nov 8, 2023 23:57:18 GMT -6
The wait for them to announce adds to the palace intrigue going on between Brown and Bagwell
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Post by unionstation82 on Nov 9, 2023 9:00:30 GMT -6
The wait for them to announce adds to the palace intrigue going on between Brown and Bagwell That doesn’t seem questionable at all, am I right?
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Post by abregmanfan on Nov 9, 2023 11:12:34 GMT -6
Maybe Nathan is being interviewed for the job. Thus, why he is not on here...
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Post by unionstation82 on Nov 9, 2023 12:24:31 GMT -6
Maybe Nathan is being interviewed for the job. Thus, why he is not on here... I would expect him to name Bushue as the President of Baseball Operations.
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talshill
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Post by talshill on Nov 9, 2023 14:12:42 GMT -6
Maybe Nathan is being interviewed for the job. Thus, why he is not on here... I would expect him to name Bushue as the President of Baseball Operations. Explain to me how he's going to do that when he's already traded Bushue for the aforementioned boatload of 6 war players? Think man.
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Post by unionstation82 on Nov 9, 2023 16:46:52 GMT -6
I would expect him to name Bushue as the President of Baseball Operations. Explain to me how he's going to do that when he's already traded Bushue for the aforementioned boatload of 6 war players? Think man. If they can clone a sheep, they can clone Tanner Bushue.
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Post by talshill on Nov 9, 2023 17:21:35 GMT -6
Explain to me how he's going to do that when he's already traded Bushue for the aforementioned boatload of 6 war players? Think man. If they can clone a sheep, they can clone Tanner Bushue. Dolly Bushue
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Post by bearbryant on Nov 11, 2023 20:16:22 GMT -6
The wait for them to announce adds to the palace intrigue going on between Brown and Bagwell That doesn’t seem questionable at all, am I right? Like I said, I'm not picking on Baggy. I'm equally curious what former-Astro and HSE-broadcaster Enos Cabell does in the front office, and why he doesn't get a nifty job title
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Post by inaltuvewetrust on Nov 12, 2023 9:34:00 GMT -6
We will see if this holds true. According to Bob Nightengale, the Astros are set to name their new manager tomorrow. Sources say it expects to be Joe Espada.
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Post by Saint on Nov 12, 2023 11:27:51 GMT -6
That's a good sign for Dana Brown lovers.
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Post by unionstation82 on Nov 12, 2023 13:12:02 GMT -6
That's a good sign for Dana Brown lovers. I’m sorry Bagwell didn’t hire his boy.
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Post by Saint on Nov 12, 2023 20:57:37 GMT -6
That's a good sign for Dana Brown lovers. I’m sorry Bagwell didn’t hire his boy. I don't think it matters either way. Both are improvements over Dusty, I believe.
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Post by unionstation82 on Nov 12, 2023 21:59:55 GMT -6
I’m sorry Bagwell didn’t hire his boy. I don't think it matters either way. Both are improvements over Dusty, I believe. Oh, for sure.
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Nov 13, 2023 7:58:21 GMT -6
People on Facebook probably think Sherwin and I hate Espada. But I don't. I just have never seen such a fangirl reaction to a coach who had never demonstrated any particular elite skill set. Not one person could ever state his tangible value outside of "he deserves it".
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talshill
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Post by talshill on Nov 13, 2023 9:46:29 GMT -6
People on Facebook probably think Sherwin and I hate Espada. But I don't. I just have never seen such a fangirl reaction to a coach who had never demonstrated any particular elite skill set. Not one person could ever state his tangible value outside of "he deserves it". I don’t know enough about the guy to say anything yea or nay about him. I do know he’s been around MLB in various capacities for different teams. So I have no clue if he’s a good hire or not. We’ll see. In my book a good manager has the ability to work well with lots of different personalities, has the respect of the team, and makes decisions that put his team in the best position to win (defensive positioning, lineup construction, etc.). I suspect he will do fine.
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Post by m240 on Nov 13, 2023 11:05:31 GMT -6
People on Facebook probably think Sherwin and I hate Espada. But I don't. I just have never seen such a fangirl reaction to a coach who had never demonstrated any particular elite skill set. Not one person could ever state his tangible value outside of "he deserves it". I don’t know enough about the guy to say anything yea or nay about him. I do know he’s been around MLB in various capacities for different teams. So I have no clue if he’s a good hire or not. We’ll see. In my book a good manager has the ability to work well with lots of different personalities, has the respect of the team, and makes decisions that put his team in the best position to win (defensive positioning, lineup construction, etc.). I suspect he will do fine. well I guess we can all figure it out along the way next season. Or at least that is how it seems. Kind of hard not to promote him once Brown said what he said
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Post by Saint on Nov 13, 2023 11:48:02 GMT -6
People on Facebook probably think Sherwin and I hate Espada. But I don't. I just have never seen such a fangirl reaction to a coach who had never demonstrated any particular elite skill set. Not one person could ever state his tangible value outside of "he deserves it". I don't know what tangible value any coach has outside of experience, and nobody can completely predict how a coach will do even if they do have experience. But... 1. Espada has all different types of coaching experience at different levels. (13 years) 2. Was a professional player in the minors and a student-athlete in college. 3. Speaks Spanish and English. 4. Knows the players well. 5. Knows the organization. 6. No known negative history or concerns. 7. Some front office experience. 8. Coached two WBC teams to 2nd place. 9. At least somewhat analytics-driven (ex. Helping the Yankees develop their defensive shifts when he was there.) 10. Has been the guy running our STs.
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Post by unionstation82 on Nov 13, 2023 12:35:03 GMT -6
People on Facebook probably think Sherwin and I hate Espada. But I don't. I just have never seen such a fangirl reaction to a coach who had never demonstrated any particular elite skill set. Not one person could ever state his tangible value outside of "he deserves it". I don't know what tangible value any coach has outside of experience, and nobody can completely predict how a coach will do even if they do have experience. But... 1. Espada has all different types of coaching experience at different levels. (13 years) 2. Was a professional player in the minors and a student-athlete in college. 3. Speaks Spanish and English. 4. Knows the players well. 5. Knows the organization. 6. No known negative history or concerns. 7. Some front office experience. 8. Coached two WBC teams to 2nd place. 9. At least somewhat analytics-driven (ex. Helping the Yankees develop their defensive shifts when he was there.) 10. Has been the guy running our STs. My main qualm with him is he’s part of the status quo. Hiring someone else would’ve likely given them new coaches and changed things up and put the whole “players comfortable” thing as less of a priority. Plus, Espada oversaw the defense this season and baserunning, which was nothing impressive.
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Post by Saint on Nov 13, 2023 16:51:47 GMT -6
I don't know what tangible value any coach has outside of experience, and nobody can completely predict how a coach will do even if they do have experience. But... 1. Espada has all different types of coaching experience at different levels. (13 years) 2. Was a professional player in the minors and a student-athlete in college. 3. Speaks Spanish and English. 4. Knows the players well. 5. Knows the organization. 6. No known negative history or concerns. 7. Some front office experience. 8. Coached two WBC teams to 2nd place. 9. At least somewhat analytics-driven (ex. Helping the Yankees develop their defensive shifts when he was there.) 10. Has been the guy running our STs. My main qualm with him is he’s part of the status quo. Hiring someone else would’ve likely given them new coaches and changed things up and put the whole “players comfortable” thing as less of a priority. Plus, Espada oversaw the defense this season and baserunning, which was nothing impressive. But he isn't really. He is more analytically driven than Dusty, and it sounds like he's a fully Brown pick. Not a Crane pick who you hate. This is the first manager picked solely by a GM since Luhnow started the rebuild with Hinch. There's every reason to believe that he'll be a mix of Hinch and Dusty...which could be really really helpful. And the defense overall has been great for years.
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Post by unionstation82 on Nov 13, 2023 17:33:38 GMT -6
My main qualm with him is he’s part of the status quo. Hiring someone else would’ve likely given them new coaches and changed things up and put the whole “players comfortable” thing as less of a priority. Plus, Espada oversaw the defense this season and baserunning, which was nothing impressive. But he isn't really. He is more analytically driven than Dusty, and it sounds like he's a fully Brown pick. Not a Crane pick who you hate. This is the first manager picked solely by a GM since Luhnow started the rebuild with Hinch. There's every reason to believe that he'll be a mix of Hinch and Dusty...which could be really really helpful. And the defense overall has been great for years. If he actually is a mix of the two, that’s an immense plus.
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talshill
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Post by talshill on Nov 13, 2023 19:21:41 GMT -6
I don't know what tangible value any coach has outside of experience, and nobody can completely predict how a coach will do even if they do have experience. But... 1. Espada has all different types of coaching experience at different levels. (13 years) 2. Was a professional player in the minors and a student-athlete in college. 3. Speaks Spanish and English. 4. Knows the players well. 5. Knows the organization. 6. No known negative history or concerns. 7. Some front office experience. 8. Coached two WBC teams to 2nd place. 9. At least somewhat analytics-driven (ex. Helping the Yankees develop their defensive shifts when he was there.) 10. Has been the guy running our STs. My main qualm with him is he’s part of the status quo. The status quo in Houston for the past 7 years is 7 ALCS appearances, 4 World Series appearances and two World championships. Forgive me if I don’t see an issue with the “status quo”.
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Post by talshill on Nov 13, 2023 19:31:44 GMT -6
I’ve listened to a couple of podcasts and YouTube folks talk about Espada being Brown’s guy. The clear insinuation was that Dusty was hard-headed and didn’t like “advice” from the analytics department or Brown. Brown picked the guy he liked who will actually listen when people smarter than him speak. Some may think that makes him Brown’s lackey but I’m not one of those. The Astros have assembled some really sharp baseball people. It’s more intelligent to consider all available input rather than bristle at the suggestion that things could be done better. Which is what we had.
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Post by bearbryant on Nov 13, 2023 20:25:15 GMT -6
My main qualm with him is he’s part of the status quo. The status quo in Houston for the past 7 years is 7 ALCS appearances, 4 World Series appearances and two World championships. Forgive me if I don’t see an issue with the “status quo”. I think Espada is who the players wanted, and they're getting reward for their efforts
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