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Post by Ashitaka on Oct 31, 2024 13:53:59 GMT -6
White Sox decline Yoan Moncada's $25 million option. Go get him, Dana!
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Post by thomasj13 on Oct 31, 2024 14:26:16 GMT -6
What type of contract Would you offer him?
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Post by Ashitaka on Oct 31, 2024 15:06:28 GMT -6
What type of contract Would you offer him? Two years, $10 million base each season + up to $10 more in incentives. Third year mutual option for $15 million base + the incentives that vests to a player option with 500 PA in 2026 and if he's not on the IL at the end of the season. |
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Post by abregmanfan on Oct 31, 2024 21:22:16 GMT -6
3/30 would be fair.
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Post by Ashitaka on Oct 31, 2024 21:23:13 GMT -6
Angels just picked up Soler from the Braves. Two years of a solid-hitting corner OF with serious power who is making just $12 million AAV. To get him they gave up just Canning, who has one year left, and a career ERA of nearly 5.00. Man, that would have been a great time for Dana Brown to call up his boys in Atlanta and work something out.
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Post by Ashitaka on Nov 1, 2024 21:02:26 GMT -6
As expected, the D-Backs picked up Eugenio Suarez's option. There is now a huge gap between Bregman and the next best available third baseman on the market, Moncada.
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Post by Ashitaka on Nov 2, 2024 16:45:11 GMT -6
David Robertson declined his option with the Rangers. He posted a 3.00 ERA and a strikeout rate over 12 per nine. His last five full seasons he has a 2.71 ERA. At his age, he will likely only get a two year deal and could he had for maybe $10 million each. If they ended up trading Pressly he would be a great candidate for a setup man with experience (or even just adding him to the mix and keeping Pressly, too).
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Post by thomasj13 on Nov 2, 2024 17:45:28 GMT -6
David Robertson declined his option with the Rangers. He posted a 3.00 ERA and a strikeout rate over 12 per nine. His last five full seasons he has a 2.71 ERA. At his age, he will likely only get a two year deal and could he had for maybe $10 million each. If they ended up trading Pressly he would be a great candidate for a setup man with experience (or even just adding him to the mix and keeping Pressly, too). I hope these are traded Tucker, Valdez, Pressly and Chaz, and we get great haul in return. I’m torn on Bregman 5 years/$150M or Moncada 2 years/$28M. I know Ash will say Moncada, but it’s so hard to say goodbye to Bregman. |
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Post by Ashitaka on Nov 2, 2024 19:59:06 GMT -6
David Robertson declined his option with the Rangers. He posted a 3.00 ERA and a strikeout rate over 12 per nine. His last five full seasons he has a 2.71 ERA. At his age, he will likely only get a two year deal and could he had for maybe $10 million each. If they ended up trading Pressly he would be a great candidate for a setup man with experience (or even just adding him to the mix and keeping Pressly, too). I hope these are traded Tucker, Valdez, Pressly and Chaz, and we get great haul in return. I’m torn on Bregman 5 years/$150M or Moncada 2 years/$28M. I know Ash will say Moncada, but it’s so hard to say goodbye to Bregman. I don't think I'd trade Chas. We'd be selling low on a guy who will be worth a lot if he rebounds. Not to mention, Chas and Tucker? What's the outfield then? |
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Post by thomasj13 on Nov 2, 2024 20:07:36 GMT -6
I hope these are traded Tucker, Valdez, Pressly and Chaz, and we get great haul in return. I’m torn on Bregman 5 years/$150M or Moncada 2 years/$28M. I know Ash will say Moncada, but it’s so hard to say goodbye to Bregman. I don't think I'd trade Chas. We'd be selling low on a guy who will be worth a lot if he rebounds. Not to mention, Chas and Tucker? What's the outfield then? Ash, Todd and Sherwin - 2025 Astros OF |
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Post by talshill on Nov 2, 2024 20:37:55 GMT -6
White Sox decline Yoan Moncada's $25 million option. Go get him, Dana! Why? He’s a massive downgrade. Not much power but he strikes out a ton. He’s constantly injured. He’s had one really good season, another pretty good season, and meh otherwise. He’s about to be 30. If he’s their replacement strategy I’d rather see them stick a minor leaguer there and save the $. |
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Post by Ashitaka on Nov 3, 2024 9:23:23 GMT -6
White Sox decline Yoan Moncada's $25 million option. Go get him, Dana! Why? He’s a massive downgrade. Not much power but he strikes out a ton. He’s constantly injured. He’s had one really good season, another pretty good season, and meh otherwise. He’s about to be 30. If he’s their replacement strategy I’d rather see them stick a minor leaguer there and save the $. I don't want to give Bregman a six or seven year contract. If he's willing to come back for five years and maybe $25 million each, I can live with that. But I'm skeptical of that being possible. Given that and Dezenzo falling on his face, Moncada at least has experience and something of a track record, and if he stays healthy he's actually pretty good. There are no great options no matter where I look. I think that's the least-bad one. 1-2 years of Moncada vs. 6-7 years of Bregman, who already appears to be in decline. |
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Post by Ashitaka on Nov 3, 2024 9:23:57 GMT -6
Yesterday Jim Bowden predicted that Houston would resign Bregman and sign Bellinger. Bellinger just exercised his option with the Cubs LOL.
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Post by thomasj13 on Nov 3, 2024 11:26:11 GMT -6
Yesterday Jim Bowden predicted that Houston would resign Bregman and sign Bellinger. Bellinger just exercised his option with the Cubs LOL. Astros sign Goldschmidt? Not asking if you like it to happen, but is it likely to happen, yes or no? |
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Post by m240 on Nov 3, 2024 15:23:10 GMT -6
What type of contract Would you offer him? Two years, $10 million base each season + up to $10 more in incentives. Third year mutual option for $15 million base + the incentives that vests to a player option with 500 PA in 2026 and if he's not on the IL at the end of the season. It would be a pretty solid move to sign him for two years if that can be made to happen. We can replace the offensive difference between him and Bregman with a couple of different options at first base. Some people think that Brice Matthews may be a possible answer but he does not seem quite ready as yet and has a marginal arm for third. |
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Post by talshill on Nov 3, 2024 15:26:54 GMT -6
Yesterday Jim Bowden predicted that Houston would resign Bregman and sign Bellinger. Bellinger just exercised his option with the Cubs LOL. Astros sign Goldschmidt? Not asking if you like it to happen, but is it likely to happen, yes or no? Doubtful IMO. He’s like 37-38 and coming off the worst season of his career. They’ve already got $19M sunk into an elderly 1b who’s off playing golf somewhere. I will say that his production last year, while bad vs. his career norms, was still better than anything we could throw out there. And who’s to say that he could match even that next year? Personally I think the Astros will try to get younger. Whether I’d sign him or not (and we could say this about any FA they may sign this off-season) depends on Crane’s willingness to go over the cap. They have a substantial amount of $ (including 2 dead contracts) falling off the books after next year. If Crane is willing to pay the tax for a year or two then they can do a lot of things. For Goldschmidt if I did offer him a contract it’d be something like 1 yr/$6-8M with a team option for a second. If he wants more than that then sayonara. |
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Post by Ashitaka on Nov 3, 2024 15:55:22 GMT -6
Yesterday Jim Bowden predicted that Houston would resign Bregman and sign Bellinger. Bellinger just exercised his option with the Cubs LOL. Astros sign Goldschmidt? Not asking if you like it to happen, but is it likely to happen, yes or no? I think there's a reasonable chance. I have to imagine that from Goldy's perspective it would be an ideal fit; coming off the down year and at his age, he's probably looking to hang on, and he won't get more than a one year deal anywhere most likely. If it comes from his hometown team, who hasn't missed the playoffs nine years, then as an older guy who has never won a pennant, it makes a lot of sense on his side. I think it will come down to Crane. I don't see how they can head into next season doing nothing at 1B. If Goldschmidt comes cheap and for just one year, then he and Abreu would both come off the books after next season (right when Vlad jr. hits the market, too). If he's willing to spend, maybe Walker then. Maybe you get a young, MLB ready guy in a Framber or Tucker package, but I'm just really cynical that he would ever allow that. So we'll see. I just can't imagine that they'll stand pat though. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Nov 3, 2024 16:41:11 GMT -6
At this point in his career, Goldschmidt looks like Singleton’s platoon partner.
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Post by Ashitaka on Nov 3, 2024 19:56:49 GMT -6
Bregman has won the Gold Glove. He won't come cheap (unless he decides to, I guess).
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Post by abregmanfan on Nov 3, 2024 20:59:21 GMT -6
I don't think I'd trade Chas. We'd be selling low on a guy who will be worth a lot if he rebounds. Not to mention, Chas and Tucker? What's the outfield then? Ash, Todd and Sherwin - 2025 Astros OF I feel so left out right now! |
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Post by thomasj13 on Nov 4, 2024 1:26:50 GMT -6
Ash, Todd and Sherwin - 2025 Astros OF I feel so left out right now! you wanna be right in there? Ok Ash, Sherwin and Mikey (RF) Todd likes to catch |
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Post by Ashitaka on Nov 4, 2024 10:14:25 GMT -6
Fangraphs has released their Top 50 free agents list.
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Bregman is #3 after Soto and Adames. Author projects five years, $28 million per ($140 million total)
"Bregman’s MVP-contender days are probably over, but he still looks like a perennial All-Star to me, and he’s somehow only 30 despite playing in the ALCS seven times already. But while his résumé is spectacular – the Hall of Fame isn’t out of the question, depending on how voters feel about the banging scheme – a ton of red flags in his 2024 season have me lower on him than Adames on a going-forward basis. His walk rate dropped by nearly half this year, and his contact quality also dipped slightly. He’s never had sterling raw batted ball data, and without all the walks juicing his OBP, he’s one-dimensional at the plate; his lift-and-pull approach is great for tucking homers into the Crawford Boxes, but it produces plenty of weak fly outs too. This was his worst offensive season other than two flukes: an injury-shortened 2021 and his abbreviated 2016 debut. He played his normal excellent defense at third, which acts as a nice value buffer, but he looks more like a complementary bat than the guy you build your offense around these days."
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Kikuchi is #16. Author projects three years, $17 million each ($51 million total)
"Kikuchi has always had a ton of promise. Lefties with fastballs this explosive don’t grow on trees, and most of the ones who do exist are relievers. He’s been a pitch modeling darling for years, and the shape of his four-seamer just keeps improving. His bullet slider is a worthy running mate, and both of those pitches looked as good as ever in 2024. The only difference? The results showed up.
If you’ve always been a believer, the story makes too much sense. This guy has always looked the part. Now he’s getting the results he deserves. But realistically, you have to look at Kikuchi’s 2024 similar to how you view Manaea’s. The results were awesome – to be fair, he still had an ERA above 4.00, but the peripherals were uniformly great and he was dominant after being traded to Houston — but the future is still in question. Do three months of spectacular results change the calculus for a guy with a career 4.57 ERA?
They do for me, and I think they will for a lot of teams. Kikuchi isn’t going to sign a long-term deal, and he doesn’t have the results to merit one of those high-AAV deals that I think Snell will receive. But I’ve thought Kikuchi was better than his results for a while now, and I think he’ll command a deal that reflects his recent form rather than his career numbers."
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I could live with that Bregman deal, and I would be livid if Kikuchi could be had for that deal and we're not the ones to give it to him. BTW, Walker is projected for the same deal as Kikuchi. Alonso is projected for $20 million per year for seven(!) years. Goldschmidt is estimated at just $13 million on a one year deal. So you could get a Goldy/Singleton platoon for under $15 million.
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Post by Saint on Nov 4, 2024 11:28:42 GMT -6
I just feel like a 6-year $150 million deal is fair for both sides with Bregman. He's still a good player, but he isn't an MVP candidate anymore. $25 million a year and no state tax, plus he gets to stay in a city that loves him and maybe continue to build a legacy with Altuve.
During that 6-year deal he could potentially reach 300 HR 1000/1000 and 2000 Hits as an Astro and he'd be at least a fringe a HoF candidate. (Especially if we could add another pennant or title in that run.)
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Post by unionstation82 on Nov 4, 2024 11:30:59 GMT -6
A 5-year/$140 million contract for Bregman is more than reasonable for the only reasonably patient guy on the team.
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Post by Saint on Nov 4, 2024 11:49:48 GMT -6
Fangraphs has released their Top 50 free agents list. ========== Bregman is #3 after Soto and Adames. Author projects five years, $28 million per ($140 million total) "Bregman’s MVP-contender days are probably over, but he still looks like a perennial All-Star to me, and he’s somehow only 30 despite playing in the ALCS seven times already. But while his résumé is spectacular – the Hall of Fame isn’t out of the question, depending on how voters feel about the banging scheme – a ton of red flags in his 2024 season have me lower on him than Adames on a going-forward basis. His walk rate dropped by nearly half this year, and his contact quality also dipped slightly. He’s never had sterling raw batted ball data, and without all the walks juicing his OBP, he’s one-dimensional at the plate; his lift-and-pull approach is great for tucking homers into the Crawford Boxes, but it produces plenty of weak fly outs too. This was his worst offensive season other than two flukes: an injury-shortened 2021 and his abbreviated 2016 debut. He played his normal excellent defense at third, which acts as a nice value buffer, but he looks more like a complementary bat than the guy you build your offense around these days." ========== Kikuchi is #16. Author projects three years, $17 million each ($51 million total) "Kikuchi has always had a ton of promise. Lefties with fastballs this explosive don’t grow on trees, and most of the ones who do exist are relievers. He’s been a pitch modeling darling for years, and the shape of his four-seamer just keeps improving. His bullet slider is a worthy running mate, and both of those pitches looked as good as ever in 2024. The only difference? The results showed up. If you’ve always been a believer, the story makes too much sense. This guy has always looked the part. Now he’s getting the results he deserves. But realistically, you have to look at Kikuchi’s 2024 similar to how you view Manaea’s. The results were awesome – to be fair, he still had an ERA above 4.00, but the peripherals were uniformly great and he was dominant after being traded to Houston — but the future is still in question. Do three months of spectacular results change the calculus for a guy with a career 4.57 ERA? They do for me, and I think they will for a lot of teams. Kikuchi isn’t going to sign a long-term deal, and he doesn’t have the results to merit one of those high-AAV deals that I think Snell will receive. But I’ve thought Kikuchi was better than his results for a while now, and I think he’ll command a deal that reflects his recent form rather than his career numbers." ========== I could live with that Bregman deal, and I would be livid if Kikuchi could be had for that deal and we're not the ones to give it to him. BTW, Walker is projected for the same deal as Kikuchi. Alonso is projected for $20 million per year for seven(!) years. Goldschmidt is estimated at just $13 million on a one year deal. So you could get a Goldy/Singleton platoon for under $15 million. If you could get Bregman, Kikuchi, and Walker for those numbers, you should really go for it. Then look at trades for Tucker and Framber. It all depends on the potential returns. I also think it wouldn't hurt to look at trying to trade Caratini while his value is high. Go with Salazar as a cheaper backup. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Nov 4, 2024 13:05:01 GMT -6
Fangraphs has released their Top 50 free agents list. ========== Bregman is #3 after Soto and Adames. Author projects five years, $28 million per ($140 million total) "Bregman’s MVP-contender days are probably over, but he still looks like a perennial All-Star to me, and he’s somehow only 30 despite playing in the ALCS seven times already. But while his résumé is spectacular – the Hall of Fame isn’t out of the question, depending on how voters feel about the banging scheme – a ton of red flags in his 2024 season have me lower on him than Adames on a going-forward basis. His walk rate dropped by nearly half this year, and his contact quality also dipped slightly. He’s never had sterling raw batted ball data, and without all the walks juicing his OBP, he’s one-dimensional at the plate; his lift-and-pull approach is great for tucking homers into the Crawford Boxes, but it produces plenty of weak fly outs too. This was his worst offensive season other than two flukes: an injury-shortened 2021 and his abbreviated 2016 debut. He played his normal excellent defense at third, which acts as a nice value buffer, but he looks more like a complementary bat than the guy you build your offense around these days." ========== Kikuchi is #16. Author projects three years, $17 million each ($51 million total) "Kikuchi has always had a ton of promise. Lefties with fastballs this explosive don’t grow on trees, and most of the ones who do exist are relievers. He’s been a pitch modeling darling for years, and the shape of his four-seamer just keeps improving. His bullet slider is a worthy running mate, and both of those pitches looked as good as ever in 2024. The only difference? The results showed up. If you’ve always been a believer, the story makes too much sense. This guy has always looked the part. Now he’s getting the results he deserves. But realistically, you have to look at Kikuchi’s 2024 similar to how you view Manaea’s. The results were awesome – to be fair, he still had an ERA above 4.00, but the peripherals were uniformly great and he was dominant after being traded to Houston — but the future is still in question. Do three months of spectacular results change the calculus for a guy with a career 4.57 ERA? They do for me, and I think they will for a lot of teams. Kikuchi isn’t going to sign a long-term deal, and he doesn’t have the results to merit one of those high-AAV deals that I think Snell will receive. But I’ve thought Kikuchi was better than his results for a while now, and I think he’ll command a deal that reflects his recent form rather than his career numbers." ========== I could live with that Bregman deal, and I would be livid if Kikuchi could be had for that deal and we're not the ones to give it to him. BTW, Walker is projected for the same deal as Kikuchi. Alonso is projected for $20 million per year for seven(!) years. Goldschmidt is estimated at just $13 million on a one year deal. So you could get a Goldy/Singleton platoon for under $15 million. I’m eating crow, bc I would be now for a Kikuchi extension. Especially after seeing how the Astros pitching staff really had a positive affect on his game. I am also for re-signing Bregman and Goldschmidt to their predicted contracts. Then, I am all for trading away Tucker, Valdez and Pressly to get enough young, really good, cheaper talent to address the needs of the team. |
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Post by Saint on Nov 4, 2024 13:16:52 GMT -6
I wonder what a deal for Carlos Santana would look like. You could trade Caratini for maybe some bullpen depth or a couple prospects. Then use the money saved to get Santana on a similar deal to what he had last year. He's not an AS, but he's a pretty consistent solid all-around 1B. Penciling him in for 20 HRs and a respectable OBP in the 7th or 8th slot for no extra salary added would be pretty good. Then you have Salazar and Singleton on the bench behind him and Yainer.
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Post by Ashitaka on Nov 4, 2024 15:29:33 GMT -6
I wonder what a deal for Carlos Santana would look like. You could trade Caratini for maybe some bullpen depth or a couple prospects. Then use the money saved to get Santana on a similar deal to what he had last year. He's not an AS, but he's a pretty consistent solid all-around 1B. Penciling him in for 20 HRs and a respectable OBP in the 7th or 8th slot for no extra salary added would be pretty good. Then you have Salazar and Singleton on the bench behind him and Yainer. I doubt they would trade Caratini, as he's kind of the new Maldonado in the clubhouse and with the pitchers, and helping Yainer improve. It's definitely the cold sabermetrics move, but I don't think that's the philosophy anymore... The Santana idea is a solid one though. He's a switch hitter and has always been, and continues to be, better as a righty against LHP, so he's be a natural fit with Singleton as well. He would probably hang against RHP better than Goldschmidt would at this point, so you wouldn't need to do a straight platoon either. His walk and strikeout rates are very Astros as well. That would not be a bad fit. |
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Post by Ashitaka on Nov 4, 2024 15:31:30 GMT -6
Astros get Taylor Trammell from the Yankees. A LHH outfielder. The return is not known yet but considering he's south of the Mendoza line on his career, probably nothing much of note.
Former top 50 draft prospect, tools are still great but strikeout rate has just killed him. Despite that he's a career 104 wRC+ against RHP so there's maybe a little something there. Maybe they can fix his swing, but don't hold your breath.
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Post by Ashitaka on Nov 4, 2024 15:37:57 GMT -6
Fangraphs has released their Top 50 free agents list. ========== Bregman is #3 after Soto and Adames. Author projects five years, $28 million per ($140 million total) "Bregman’s MVP-contender days are probably over, but he still looks like a perennial All-Star to me, and he’s somehow only 30 despite playing in the ALCS seven times already. But while his résumé is spectacular – the Hall of Fame isn’t out of the question, depending on how voters feel about the banging scheme – a ton of red flags in his 2024 season have me lower on him than Adames on a going-forward basis. His walk rate dropped by nearly half this year, and his contact quality also dipped slightly. He’s never had sterling raw batted ball data, and without all the walks juicing his OBP, he’s one-dimensional at the plate; his lift-and-pull approach is great for tucking homers into the Crawford Boxes, but it produces plenty of weak fly outs too. This was his worst offensive season other than two flukes: an injury-shortened 2021 and his abbreviated 2016 debut. He played his normal excellent defense at third, which acts as a nice value buffer, but he looks more like a complementary bat than the guy you build your offense around these days." ========== Kikuchi is #16. Author projects three years, $17 million each ($51 million total) "Kikuchi has always had a ton of promise. Lefties with fastballs this explosive don’t grow on trees, and most of the ones who do exist are relievers. He’s been a pitch modeling darling for years, and the shape of his four-seamer just keeps improving. His bullet slider is a worthy running mate, and both of those pitches looked as good as ever in 2024. The only difference? The results showed up. If you’ve always been a believer, the story makes too much sense. This guy has always looked the part. Now he’s getting the results he deserves. But realistically, you have to look at Kikuchi’s 2024 similar to how you view Manaea’s. The results were awesome – to be fair, he still had an ERA above 4.00, but the peripherals were uniformly great and he was dominant after being traded to Houston — but the future is still in question. Do three months of spectacular results change the calculus for a guy with a career 4.57 ERA? They do for me, and I think they will for a lot of teams. Kikuchi isn’t going to sign a long-term deal, and he doesn’t have the results to merit one of those high-AAV deals that I think Snell will receive. But I’ve thought Kikuchi was better than his results for a while now, and I think he’ll command a deal that reflects his recent form rather than his career numbers." ========== I could live with that Bregman deal, and I would be livid if Kikuchi could be had for that deal and we're not the ones to give it to him. BTW, Walker is projected for the same deal as Kikuchi. Alonso is projected for $20 million per year for seven(!) years. Goldschmidt is estimated at just $13 million on a one year deal. So you could get a Goldy/Singleton platoon for under $15 million. I’m eating crow, bc I would be now for a Kikuchi extension. Especially after seeing how the Astros pitching staff really had a positive affect on his game. I am also for re-signing Bregman and Goldschmidt to their predicted contracts. Then, I am all for trading away Tucker, Valdez and Pressly to get enough young, really good, cheaper talent to address the needs of the team. After what we gave up for Kikuchi and how he took off here and likes it here, if he only gets a three year deal for a McCullers salary and you let him walk, that's just unacceptable. I would still prefer to extend Tucker, but I just doubt it, so they really should trade the both of them. That, combined with some smart free agent moves, will keep us competitive while building the future. This division was pathetic. Use that to your advantage to retool and in 2026 with more prospect development time having been bought and a lot of deadweight coming off the books, then you can do something bigger. |
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