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Post by Ashitaka on Nov 11, 2024 18:29:10 GMT -6
I'm opening to trading them too, depending on what we would get back and what FA moves we make, but, trying to get one more good year out of them isn't terrible. Two QO prospects to pair with, hopefully, another strong draft from Brown, and a ton of money off the books. 2026 could be a big year to kind of reset things and adjust for the next era whether we're successful in 2025 or not. How are the draft compensation picks doing for the ones the Astros got for Springer, Correa and Cole? For Cole: Alex Santos II - he's had some injuries. Stuff is solid, especially the slider, command is trash. Could tick up in velocity if they move him to the bullpen. Could he a solid middle reliever at some point For Springer: Chayce McDermott - traded for the Mancini rental. Bonkers strikeout rates in AAA last season, made his MLB debut with the Orioles for one game For Correa: Andrew Talylor - good pitching prospect, but injured his arm in his fifth game this year in May and missed the rest of the season. They haven't even said what the injury is, just that he's out indefinitely. Could be a solid mid-rotation arm So yeah. Maybe either extend guys or trade them. The comp pick thing isn't going wonderfully. |
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Post by talshill on Nov 12, 2024 20:19:20 GMT -6
I'm wondering what a reunion with Charlie Morton would cost. He's 41 now and still a competent pitcher. But the Astros may think they have enough options.
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Post by Ashitaka on Nov 13, 2024 9:23:00 GMT -6
I'm wondering what a reunion with Charlie Morton would cost. He's 41 now and still a competent pitcher. But the Astros may think they have enough options. I was thinking about that as well. His last deal paid him $20 million per year and he didn't do anything that would lead me to think a pay cut is in order. He might just get a one year deal for that same amount. |
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Post by Ashitaka on Nov 13, 2024 9:25:35 GMT -6
Astros signed Steven Okert to a MILB deal with a Spring Training invite. He will make a $1.2 million salary + unspecified incentives if he makes the team. There are opt out dates in the deal that will allow him to become a free agent if he's not on the roster.
Good no risk pickup. The results haven't always been there but his slider is a serious weapon. He looks like a guy who could benefit with a change in pitch selection and strategy like many others have, most recently Kikuchi. They might want to get him to start throwing some cutters again, too (hasn't since 2017).
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Post by bearbryant on Nov 13, 2024 16:08:13 GMT -6
Morton signing wouldn't surprise me. Crane overpays for pitching even though he does the opposite with position players
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Post by unionstation82 on Nov 13, 2024 16:11:59 GMT -6
Morton signing wouldn't surprise me. Crane overpays for pitching even though he does the opposite with position players Crane loves pitchers. He has no problem letting hitters walk. |
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Post by Saint on Nov 13, 2024 17:26:04 GMT -6
Morton signing wouldn't surprise me. Crane overpays for pitching even though he does the opposite with position players That's probably for the best though. You can win with a mediocre offense and good pitching. Hard to do much without good pitching. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Nov 13, 2024 17:37:54 GMT -6
Morton signing wouldn't surprise me. Crane overpays for pitching even though he does the opposite with position players That's probably for the best though. You can win with a mediocre offense and good pitching. Hard to do much without good pitching. Pitch please |
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Post by Ashitaka on Nov 13, 2024 22:16:52 GMT -6
Brent Strom to Pittsburgh. Pirates dynasty incoming!!!!
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Post by thomasj13 on Nov 14, 2024 3:04:20 GMT -6
Brent Strom to Pittsburgh. Pirates dynasty incoming!!!! I wish him well. He did great for the Astros. He was a class act to step down/away from the team, so his successors would get promoted/stay. |
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Post by mihdennabios on Nov 14, 2024 11:24:30 GMT -6
Shouldn't Sasaki want to come to the Astros?
He gets to play indoors and seeing how we "fixed" Kikuchi so easily he should want to come here, right?
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Post by Ashitaka on Nov 14, 2024 11:36:27 GMT -6
Shouldn't Sasaki want to come to the Astros? He gets to play indoors and seeing how we "fixed" Kikuchi so easily he should want to come here, right? Those will be positive points; the team's incredible run of success, the amazing ability to develop pitchers and help them maximize their potential (resign Kikuchi and let him be a part of the recruitment process), indoor stadium, no state sales tax (since he can't sign a goofy money contract due to the rules, this could be a point for us). Hopefully Houston's multi-culturalism is another plus. They might also try to sell him on breaking the mold; he'll never be as big of a star in Ohtani's shadow. Houston is a place that hasn't had many Japanese people in it's history. Try to sell him on being THE guy from his country in a new market. Other than that though, there's not much we can do. L.A. is L.A. |
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Post by Saint on Nov 14, 2024 19:07:37 GMT -6
Shouldn't Sasaki want to come to the Astros? He gets to play indoors and seeing how we "fixed" Kikuchi so easily he should want to come here, right? Those will be positive points; the team's incredible run of success, the amazing ability to develop pitchers and help them maximize their potential (resign Kikuchi and let him be a part of the recruitment process), indoor stadium, no state sales tax (since he can't sign a goofy money contract due to the rules, this could be a point for us). Hopefully Houston's multi-culturalism is another plus. They might also try to sell him on breaking the mold; he'll never be as big of a star in Ohtani's shadow. Houston is a place that hasn't had many Japanese people in it's history. Try to sell him on being THE guy from his country in a new market. Other than that though, there's not much we can do. L.A. is L.A. All great points. Unfortunately, despite being a growing and hugely multicultural city, Houston is mostly viewed as very unsexy. Outside of NASA (which isn't what it used to be) and oil (which is needed for business but boring) there is no international appeal. LA, NYC, Chicago...those are the sexy picks. And then you have places of big baseball history like Boston and St. Louis. And then more attractive cities with weather and nearby geography like Seattle, Denver, and San Diego. We just don't have enough to draw in Japanese free agents. Cuba and Central/South America? Sure, due to proximity. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Nov 14, 2024 19:54:17 GMT -6
Those will be positive points; the team's incredible run of success, the amazing ability to develop pitchers and help them maximize their potential (resign Kikuchi and let him be a part of the recruitment process), indoor stadium, no state sales tax (since he can't sign a goofy money contract due to the rules, this could be a point for us). Hopefully Houston's multi-culturalism is another plus. They might also try to sell him on breaking the mold; he'll never be as big of a star in Ohtani's shadow. Houston is a place that hasn't had many Japanese people in its history. Try to sell him on being THE guy from his country in a new market. Other than that though, there's not much we can do. L.A. is L.A. All great points. Unfortunately, despite being a growing and hugely multicultural city, Houston is mostly viewed as very unsexy. Outside of NASA (which isn't what it used to be) and oil (which is needed for business but boring) there is no international appeal. LA, NYC, Chicago...those are the sexy picks. And then you have places of big baseball history like Boston and St. Louis. And then more attractive cities with weather and nearby geography like Seattle, Denver, and San Diego. We just don't have enough to draw in Japanese free agents. Cuba and Central/South America? Sure, due to proximity. Sasaki is also like 12 years younger than what Crane likes to target in free agency. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Nov 14, 2024 20:07:04 GMT -6
All great points. Unfortunately, despite being a growing and hugely multicultural city, Houston is mostly viewed as very unsexy. Outside of NASA (which isn't what it used to be) and oil (which is needed for business but boring) there is no international appeal. LA, NYC, Chicago...those are the sexy picks. And then you have places of big baseball history like Boston and St. Louis. And then more attractive cities with weather and nearby geography like Seattle, Denver, and San Diego. We just don't have enough to draw in Japanese free agents. Cuba and Central/South America? Sure, due to proximity. Sasaki is also like 12 years younger than what Crane likes to target in free agency. Zing |
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Post by Saint on Nov 15, 2024 10:53:16 GMT -6
All great points. Unfortunately, despite being a growing and hugely multicultural city, Houston is mostly viewed as very unsexy. Outside of NASA (which isn't what it used to be) and oil (which is needed for business but boring) there is no international appeal. LA, NYC, Chicago...those are the sexy picks. And then you have places of big baseball history like Boston and St. Louis. And then more attractive cities with weather and nearby geography like Seattle, Denver, and San Diego. We just don't have enough to draw in Japanese free agents. Cuba and Central/South America? Sure, due to proximity. Sasaki is also like 12 years younger than what Crane likes to target in free agency. Yeah. Crane has been so bad. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Nov 15, 2024 18:34:53 GMT -6
Sasaki is also like 12 years younger than what Crane likes to target in free agency. Yeah. Crane has been so bad. So, what’s the likelihood of Crane signing a 23-year old potential superstar free agent, given his track record as owner? |
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Post by thomasj13 on Nov 15, 2024 21:30:36 GMT -6
Yeah. Crane has been so bad. So, what’s the likelihood of Crane signing a 23-year old potential superstar free agent, given his track record as owner? If he was from Latin America, Venezuela, Cuba, DR, I like our chances. So, yes way Jose. Sayonara Sasaki |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Nov 16, 2024 10:34:18 GMT -6
Sasaki is also like 12 years younger than what Crane likes to target in free agency. Yeah. Crane has been so bad. Sherwin has inexplicably ALWAYS hated Crane, though he will be along in a moment to deny this obvious fact. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Nov 16, 2024 10:40:46 GMT -6
Yeah. Crane has been so bad. Sherwin has inexplicably ALWAYS hated Crane, though he will be along in a moment to deny this obvious fact. I wouldn’t say Sherwin has hated Crane. That would be more Kevjnbass. Sherwin is more like what have you done for me lately guy, always wanting more. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Nov 16, 2024 16:40:41 GMT -6
Yeah. Crane has been so bad. Sherwin has inexplicably ALWAYS hated Crane, though he will be along in a moment to deny this obvious fact. Not a fact. Criticizing things he’s done isn’t the same as saying he’s a horrible owner. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Nov 16, 2024 16:41:23 GMT -6
Sherwin has inexplicably ALWAYS hated Crane, though he will be along in a moment to deny this obvious fact. I wouldn’t say Sherwin has hated Crane. That would be more Kevjnbass. Sherwin is more like what have you done for me lately guy, always wanting more. Thank you, my n-word. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Nov 16, 2024 19:28:14 GMT -6
I wouldn’t say Sherwin has hated Crane. That would be more Kevjnbass. Sherwin is more like what have you done for me lately guy, always wanting more. Thank you, my n-word. You’re welcome my fellow brownian |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Nov 16, 2024 19:29:13 GMT -6
Sherwin has inexplicably ALWAYS hated Crane, though he will be along in a moment to deny this obvious fact. Not a fact. Criticizing things he’s done isn’t the same as saying he’s a horrible owner. Criticizing EVERYTHING he does (which you do) is the same as saying he's a horrible owner. You're aware people can see your posts/texts/messages, right? |
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Post by talshill on Nov 16, 2024 22:50:24 GMT -6
Not a fact. Criticizing things he’s done isn’t the same as saying he’s a horrible owner. Criticizing EVERYTHING he does (which you do) is the same as saying he's a horrible owner. You're aware people can see your posts/texts/messages, right? Fans are fans. We don't know squat about the inner workings of the franchise or what factors may lead to the decisions made. But criticism without the facts seems to be a particular pass time with some fans. "If only he did/said/signed what/who I wanted". I don't know if Crane's a jerk or not; don't know him. I don't know if he's a skin flint or not; doesn't seem to be based on his payroll. I do know that prior to his arrival the Astros were a MLB afterthought and under his ownership they have won two titles and competed for more. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Nov 17, 2024 8:32:32 GMT -6
Ok, here is my updated hopeful off season
Astros re-sign Bregman to a 6 year/$150M deal, after 6 years he gets $5M a year, deferred for 6 years.
Astros re-sign Kikuchi to a 3 year/$60M deal
Astros trade Tucker and Pressly to the Phillies for
Andrew Painter (RHP)
Justin Crawford (OF)
Nick Castellanos (OF)
Astros trade Valdez to the Red Sox for
Roman Anthony (OF) or Kristan Campbell (OF, 2B/SS)
David Sandlin (RHP)
After that Astros sign a 1B - I hope it would be Christian Walker 3 year/$75M deal, but more likely it would be Paul Goldschmidt at 1 year/$12M with a 2nd year team option of $13M with some $1M buyout.
And a reliever or two that cost less than $4M and only for a 1 year deal
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Post by thomasj13 on Nov 17, 2024 8:47:22 GMT -6
My above hopeful offseason would bear this 2025 team
OF - Castellanos, Anthony or Campbell and Meyers/McCormick/Dubon
3B - Bregman
SS - Pena
2B - Altuve
1B - Goldschmidt/Singleton or Walker
C - Diaz
DH - Alvarez
Rotation
Brown
Kikuchi
Garcia
Spaghetti
Painter
2026 Team
OF - Castellanos, Anthony or Campbell, Crawford or Mellon (bench)
1B - Walker or ?
Rotation
Brown
Kikuchi
Javier
Painter
Spaghetti or Sandlin
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Post by Ashitaka on Nov 17, 2024 17:18:31 GMT -6
Yeah. Crane has been so bad. So, what’s the likelihood of Crane signing a 23-year old potential superstar free agent, given his track record as owner? I've soured a lot on Crane too, but that's just not a good comparison. If we won't sign Sasaki, it won't be because he's too young. It will be because he chooses another team. He's not going to get a ridiculous deal because he legally can't. |
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Post by Ashitaka on Nov 17, 2024 17:20:53 GMT -6
Ok, here is my updated hopeful off season Astros re-sign Bregman to a 6 year/$150M deal, after 6 years he gets $5M a year, deferred for 6 years. Astros re-sign Kikuchi to a 3 year/$60M deal Astros trade Tucker and Pressly to the Phillies for Andrew Painter (RHP) Justin Crawford (OF) Nick Castellanos (OF) Astros trade Valdez to the Red Sox for Roman Anthony (OF) or Kristan Campbell (OF, 2B/SS) David Sandlin (RHP) After that Astros sign a 1B - I hope it would be Christian Walker 3 year/$75M deal, but more likely it would be Paul Goldschmidt at 1 year/$12M with a 2nd year team option of $13M with some $1M buyout. And a reliever or two that cost less than $4M and only for a 1 year deal I would really like a Goldschmidt bridge signing instead. If we're giving up yet another pick for a free agent signing, I'd rather target Vlad next year than Walker this year. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Nov 17, 2024 17:27:31 GMT -6
Ok, here is my updated hopeful off season Astros re-sign Bregman to a 6 year/$150M deal, after 6 years he gets $5M a year, deferred for 6 years. Astros re-sign Kikuchi to a 3 year/$60M deal Astros trade Tucker and Pressly to the Phillies for Andrew Painter (RHP) Justin Crawford (OF) Nick Castellanos (OF) Astros trade Valdez to the Red Sox for Roman Anthony (OF) or Kristan Campbell (OF, 2B/SS) David Sandlin (RHP) After that Astros sign a 1B - I hope it would be Christian Walker 3 year/$75M deal, but more likely it would be Paul Goldschmidt at 1 year/$12M with a 2nd year team option of $13M with some $1M buyout. And a reliever or two that cost less than $4M and only for a 1 year deal I would really like a Goldschmidt bridge signing instead. If we're giving up yet another pick for a free agent signing, I'd rather target Vlad next year than Walker this year. I would take Vlad over Walker, but how much more $$$$ and years will Vlad get over Walker? |
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