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Post by abregmanfan on Jun 22, 2018 21:20:27 GMT -6
All I can say is Giles sucks. Goodnight.
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Post by bannedfan on Jun 22, 2018 21:20:31 GMT -6
Pathetic Astros. They have scored 11 runs in 4 games.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2018 21:20:34 GMT -6
Welp, that sucked.
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Post by Saint on Jun 22, 2018 21:21:59 GMT -6
With our GIDP prone-nss, it would be nice to see us get more aggressive on the basepaths. Not stealing too much against Perez necessarily, but some bunts and hit and runs, etc.
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Post by unionstation82 on Jun 22, 2018 21:22:07 GMT -6
Off day cooled off the offense too. Hopefully they can get going tomorrow. Should’ve rested Altuve. (Rimshot.) |
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Post by koolade2 on Jun 22, 2018 21:22:38 GMT -6
Once again they lose a 1 run game and score less than 4 runs which is an automatic loss for this team. They better figure out how to win these kinds of games because come playoffs will probably have a few of these as the Pitchers will be better.
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Post by Saint on Jun 22, 2018 21:23:00 GMT -6
We're 13-2 the last 15 games and we've built up a 3.5 game lead. They'll turn it around tomorrow.
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Jun 22, 2018 21:24:14 GMT -6
LMAO @ Squatty. He can't pitch with 5 run leads, and apparently can't pitch in tie games (or is it scoreless games that he can't do?) I think he can only pitch in a game that has a 3 run lead. Everything else he shits himself. I think he's accidentally been good enough to save the game 10 times (flukes, and coincidence that it was 3 run lead games), and agree with Sherwin that I want him to GOMT |
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Post by bearbryant on Jun 22, 2018 21:25:12 GMT -6
I'm not mad at Giles. Anymore than I was mad at Lidge in Game 4 of the 2005 WS. The bats lost this one. I don't think it's debatable really
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Post by Saint on Jun 22, 2018 21:26:53 GMT -6
Giles has situations that he does well, but if they aren't going to use him in those situations, cut him loose and bring in someone else.
Rondon has been doing a very good job in the closer role anyways.
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Post by Saint on Jun 22, 2018 21:27:48 GMT -6
I'm not mad at Giles. Anymore than I was mad at Lidge in Game 4 of the 2005 WS. The bats lost this one. I don't think it's debatable really Can't go 0-9 with RISP and two hits and expect to win much. |
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Post by koolade2 on Jun 22, 2018 21:28:07 GMT -6
It has always been the Bats that have let the Astros down. 2005 WS was lost mostly because the Bats didn't show up at all. I have always said you need to score to win and had many arguments with other posters that always wanted to blame pitching.
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Post by bearbryant on Jun 22, 2018 21:29:26 GMT -6
Giles has situations that he does well, but if they aren't going to use him in those situations, cut him loose and bring in someone else. Rondon has been doing a very good job in the closer role anyways. |
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Post by koolade2 on Jun 22, 2018 21:31:42 GMT -6
Giles has situations that he does well, but if they aren't going to use him in those situations, cut him loose and bring in someone else. Rondon has been doing a very good job in the closer role anyways. I think Hinch outsmarts himself with the Clipboard at times. There was no reason to bring Giles into a situation like that know he has failed way more often than he hasn't. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Jun 22, 2018 21:35:11 GMT -6
Giles has situations that he does well, but if they aren't going to use him in those situations, cut him loose and bring in someone else. Rondon has been doing a very good job in the closer role anyways. I think Hinch outsmarts himself with the Clipboard at times. There was no reason to bring Giles into a situation like that know he has failed way more often than he hasn't. He tries to be the “beloved rah rah I believe in you” players’ manager too often, and it’s not any more apparent than with Giles. |
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Post by Saint on Jun 22, 2018 21:35:48 GMT -6
Giles has situations that he does well, but if they aren't going to use him in those situations, cut him loose and bring in someone else. Rondon has been doing a very good job in the closer role anyways. I didn't see the bullpen during the 8th, but I would imagine Hinch expected to scratch out a run in the 8th and go with Giles with a small lead. And it almost happened. In a tie game going into the 9yh or extra, I think I would go with McHugh if he's rested. |
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Post by Saint on Jun 22, 2018 21:38:15 GMT -6
I trust in Hinch for the long term just as I do in Luhnow. He's made mistakes but the players seem to love him and we've had fantastic success with him.
How much of that success is because of him is arguable, but I whole heartedly believe his juggling of the pitching staff in the postseason last year helped bring us our championship.
As long as we're winning, he's the guy.
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Post by olpapa on Jun 22, 2018 21:39:01 GMT -6
I'm not mad at Giles. Anymore than I was mad at Lidge in Game 4 of the 2005 WS. The bats lost this one. I don't think it's debatable really Meanwhile as the Astros lose 1-0 on a 2-hitter by the KC pitching staff, Tucker is 2-2 so far tonight at Fresno and 24-46 over his last 11 games including tonight’s game. No threat of him qualifying for Super Two. Time to bring him up. |
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Post by bearbryant on Jun 22, 2018 21:41:03 GMT -6
I trust in Hinch for the long term just as I do in Luhnow. He's made mistakes but the players seem to love him and we've had fantastic success with him. How much of that success is because of him is arguable, but I whole heartedly believe his juggling of the pitching staff in the postseason last year helped bring us our championship. As long as we're winning, he's the guy. |
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Post by Saint on Jun 22, 2018 21:44:28 GMT -6
I trust in Hinch for the long term just as I do in Luhnow. He's made mistakes but the players seem to love him and we've had fantastic success with him. How much of that success is because of him is arguable, but I whole heartedly believe his juggling of the pitching staff in the postseason last year helped bring us our championship. As long as we're winning, he's the guy. I'm surprised people are this frustrated. It was kind of a trap game. We've been playing very well, but guys were a little sluggish after a day off. And if Bregman didn't get robbed, maybe we still manage to eek one out. Can't win all of them. |
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Post by bearbryant on Jun 22, 2018 21:45:20 GMT -6
I'm not mad at Giles. Anymore than I was mad at Lidge in Game 4 of the 2005 WS. The bats lost this one. I don't think it's debatable really Meanwhile as the Astros lose 1-0 on a 2-hitter by the KC pitching staff, Tucker is 2-2 so far tonight at Fresno and 24-46 over his last 11 games including tonight’s game. No threat of him qualifying for Super Two. Time to bring him up. |
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Post by koolade2 on Jun 22, 2018 21:51:05 GMT -6
Baseball's a hard game. I like that Baggy reminded everyone that a few times this evening. It's even harder to do a repeat which hasn't been done in 18 years I'm surprised people are this frustrated. It was kind of a trap game. We've been playing very well, but guys were a little sluggish after a day off. And if Bregman didn't get robbed, maybe we still manage to eek one out. Can't win all of them. I agree you can't win them all but I do not go with after a day off they should have been this sluggish. Should have been rested and raring to go. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2018 22:06:47 GMT -6
I blame Keuchel for this loss. If he would have just given up (-2) runs this game we would have won 0 to (-1)
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Post by olpapa on Jun 22, 2018 22:08:21 GMT -6
Meanwhile as the Astros lose 1-0 on a 2-hitter by the KC pitching staff, Tucker is 2-2 so far tonight at Fresno and 24-46 over his last 11 games including tonight’s game. No threat of him qualifying for Super Two. Time to bring him up. I hope they don’t pull the “must wait until he goes through adversity” nonsense with Tucker before they bring him up like the did with Bregman. Bregman batted almost .400 at AAA with hits in 14 of his first 15 games at Fresno. Then he went hitless (0-11) in games 16-18 and they called him up. That slump continued for his first 10 games in Houston in which he went something like 2-38 before he broke out and started hitting again. I thought that was a chicken shit way to do the kid. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2018 22:14:47 GMT -6
I wouldn't be averse to that. We're 17th in team OPS in CF and 18th in LF I hope they don’t pull the “must wait until he goes through adversity” nonsense with Tucker before they bring him up like the did with Bregman. Bregman batted almost .400 at AAA with hits in 14 of his first 15 games at Fresno. Then he went hitless (0-11) in games 16-18 and they called him up. That slump continued for his first 10 games in Houston in which he went something like 2-38 before he broke out and started hitting again. I thought that was a chicken shit way to do the kid. The only thing I can see is that if the Astros wait until September to call him up and see what he can do (and possibly help out in the post season) then they can still wait until mid-May of next year to bring him up without losing the year of service before arbitration.
However, with him killing it already in AAA right now I can't see how they DON'T start the season with him next year (or at least bring him in mid April). Might as well bring him up in July at that point.
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Post by unionstation82 on Jun 22, 2018 22:19:16 GMT -6
Tonight’s game was so pathetic offensively that it’s not even worth talking about Giles.
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Post by unionstation82 on Jun 22, 2018 22:19:32 GMT -6
Hashtag call up Tucker.
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Post by olpapa on Jun 22, 2018 22:26:47 GMT -6
I predict he will be in Houston no later than next Wednesday. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Jun 22, 2018 22:28:33 GMT -6
I predict he will be in Houston no later than next Wednesday. Why then? |
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Post by blcoach8 on Jun 22, 2018 22:29:14 GMT -6
They shouldn’t even give out an individual loss to Giles. It should be given to the offense. I see where you are coming from. But Giles deserves the loss more imo. Giles is garbage and proves it every time he is used in this type of situation......The team lost the game as soon as this nut job came in from the pen. Hinch blew our best chance to score when he refused to have Kemp but in an obvious bunt situation. Most of the fans in MMP expected the sac bunt as did anyone who believes in percentage baseball. I guess the clipboard told the robot not to bunt. |
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