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Post by astrosdoug on Jun 29, 2018 2:58:34 GMT -6
An actual sports journalist is saying that the Astros will call up Cionel Perez in light of Correa having to go on the DL.
A couple things not yet clear --
* is this true?
* if true, is AJ Reed still coming to Houston?
* would Perez pitch out of the bullpen (as I'd expect) or be given a spot start (as has been his role on the Hooks)?
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Post by astrosdoug on Jun 29, 2018 3:04:00 GMT -6
My understanding is that Reed has joined the team as a replacement for Gurriel, and Perez will join the team in Correa's roster spot.
I have been wanting to see Perez with the big club this year, especially as the 2016-17 seasons give us reason to doubt the wisdom of placing Sipp on a postseason roster. In the playoffs, Perez would be a multi-inning option whereas Sipp is really only reliable for 3 outs or 20 pitches, whichever comes first.
I was impressed by Perez in spring training. let's see what he can do.
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Post by astrosdoug on Jun 29, 2018 3:06:09 GMT -6
If Keuchel or another starter is feeling sore and wants to have his spot in the rotation skipped, Perez could be given a game. He's already stretched out. The worst than can happen is the Astros lose a game, which happens 1/3 of the time anyway.
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Post by astrosdoug on Jun 29, 2018 3:15:23 GMT -6
Perez has a 2.20 ERA over 10 starts and 4 relief appearances for the Hooks this year. That is the same ERA he maintained over 2 seasons in the Cuban baseball system. he has struck out over 11 batters every 9 innings, which would give Cole a run for his money if he can maintain that into the majors.  Overall, Perez must be one of the hottest pitchers in the Astros farm system. |
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Post by Saint on Jun 29, 2018 5:16:56 GMT -6
I think it's time we saw Tucker up here. White and Kemp are okay, but it's time to get a real OFer up here and see what he is capable of as we start getting into the prime trade season. We're a championship-caliber team and should be preparing for another championship.
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Post by bearbryant on Jun 29, 2018 11:03:26 GMT -6
Given the front office's track record, my hunch is they're gonna keep riding Marisnick under the delusion he's a major league ballplayer. They've been overvaluing him
forever and I don't expect that to change anytime soon
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Post by paastrosfan on Jun 29, 2018 11:13:31 GMT -6
Given the front office's track record, my hunch is they're gonna keep riding Marisnick under the delusion he's a major league ballplayer. They've been overvaluing him
forever and I don't expect that to change anytime soon There is no denying about what Jake's arm and glove bring to his game. Then there is no denying when his bat runs into a baseball, we see some of the most majestic homers seen. Then there is no denying he is having a good week, the beat goes on. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Jun 29, 2018 11:18:37 GMT -6
Given the front office's track record, my hunch is they're gonna keep riding Marisnick under the delusion he's a major league ballplayer. They've been overvaluing him
forever and I don't expect that to change anytime soon The fact that Marisnick is probably the best CF in the game and has prevented the opposition from scoring numerous runs and costing us games seems to be lost on some folks. Oh, his home run was also the only run in last night's game. He has produced lately while the big stars, Springer and Correa, have been in the tank. I also have to wonder WHY we need Perez and are not calling up Tucker unless there is a problem with one of the pitchers that we have not heard about. |
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Post by Saint on Jun 29, 2018 11:20:43 GMT -6
Given the front office's track record, my hunch is they're gonna keep riding Marisnick under the delusion he's a major league ballplayer. They've been overvaluing him
forever and I don't expect that to change anytime soon The fact that Marisnick is probably the best CF in the game and has prevented the opposition from scoring numerous runs and costing us games seems to be lost on some folks. Oh, his home run was also the only run in last night's game. He has produced lately while the big stars, Springer and Correa, have been in the tank. I also have to wonder WHY we need Perez and are not calling up Tucker unless there is a problem with one of the pitchers that we have not heard about. Weren't you calling for his head two weeks ago, and Gattis before that, and somebody else before that? |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Jun 29, 2018 11:36:32 GMT -6
The fact that Marisnick is probably the best CF in the game and has prevented the opposition from scoring numerous runs and costing us games seems to be lost on some folks. Oh, his home run was also the only run in last night's game. He has produced lately while the big stars, Springer and Correa, have been in the tank. I also have to wonder WHY we need Perez and are not calling up Tucker unless there is a problem with one of the pitchers that we have not heard about. Weren't you calling for his head two weeks ago, and Gattis before that, and somebody else before that? Yes he was. Corch be fickle. |
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Post by paastrosfan on Jun 29, 2018 11:42:40 GMT -6
The fact that Marisnick is probably the best CF in the game and has prevented the opposition from scoring numerous runs and costing us games seems to be lost on some folks. Oh, his home run was also the only run in last night's game. He has produced lately while the big stars, Springer and Correa, have been in the tank. I also have to wonder WHY we need Perez and are not calling up Tucker unless there is a problem with one of the pitchers that we have not heard about. Weren't you calling for his head two weeks ago, and Gattis before that, and somebody else before that? Crotch folds quicker than a cheap suit. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Jun 29, 2018 12:01:02 GMT -6
Given the front office's track record, my hunch is they're gonna keep riding Marisnick under the delusion he's a major league ballplayer. They've been overvaluing him
forever and I don't expect that to change anytime soon The fact that Marisnick is probably the best CF in the game and has prevented the opposition from scoring numerous runs and costing us games seems to be lost on some folks. Oh, his home run was also the only run in last night's game. He has produced lately while the big stars, Springer and Correa, have been in the tank. I also have to wonder WHY we need Perez and are not calling up Tucker unless there is a problem with one of the pitchers that we have not heard about. Weren't you not too long ago wanting him to be demoted to the minors, and now you are saying he is the best CF in the game? So you are back to trusting and actually promoting Jake? And now and forever, you will not turn on him? |
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Post by thomasj13 on Jun 29, 2018 12:03:16 GMT -6
The fact that Marisnick is probably the best CF in the game and has prevented the opposition from scoring numerous runs and costing us games seems to be lost on some folks. Oh, his home run was also the only run in last night's game. He has produced lately while the big stars, Springer and Correa, have been in the tank. I also have to wonder WHY we need Perez and are not calling up Tucker unless there is a problem with one of the pitchers that we have not heard about. Weren't you calling for his head two weeks ago, and Gattis before that, and somebody else before that? I just responded to his email, but I shortly see afterwards everyone else did the same.... |
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Post by blcoach8 on Jun 29, 2018 13:09:57 GMT -6
The fact that Marisnick is probably the best CF in the game and has prevented the opposition from scoring numerous runs and costing us games seems to be lost on some folks. Oh, his home run was also the only run in last night's game. He has produced lately while the big stars, Springer and Correa, have been in the tank. I also have to wonder WHY we need Perez and are not calling up Tucker unless there is a problem with one of the pitchers that we have not heard about. Weren't you calling for his head two weeks ago, and Gattis before that, and somebody else before that? Yes, and so were lots of others....what's your point if you have one? The fact that Jake is a gold glove centerfielder doesn't mean he has been a good hitter. Right now, his hitting has improved. He had a long streak where he was a K waiting to happen. Earlier, Gattis was doing nothing. At one point in May, he had one home run and had driven in 8 runs. It was thought that they were considering parting ways with Gattis. Then, he made adjustments and has been hitting homers and producing runs......in short, he has carried this team for about a month with the help of Bregman and Altuve. |
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Post by astrosdoug on Jun 29, 2018 13:11:03 GMT -6
Maybe Hinch will say something about the reasons for calling up Perez. Some possibilities are --
1) Want to gauge which lefties would make the best weapons in the postseason (Sipp, Guduan, Cionel, Boshers, even Keuchel in the mix for postseason bullpen)
2) Build trade value.
3) Wasn't comfortable going with a 7-man bullpen for too long.
4) Decision made in spring training to give Perez a cup of tea at some point this year, so now is as good a time as ever.
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Post by blcoach8 on Jun 29, 2018 13:12:00 GMT -6
The fact that Marisnick is probably the best CF in the game and has prevented the opposition from scoring numerous runs and costing us games seems to be lost on some folks. Oh, his home run was also the only run in last night's game. He has produced lately while the big stars, Springer and Correa, have been in the tank. I also have to wonder WHY we need Perez and are not calling up Tucker unless there is a problem with one of the pitchers that we have not heard about. Weren't you not too long ago wanting him to be demoted to the minors, and now you are saying he is the best CF in the game? So you are back to trusting and actually promoting Jake? And now and forever, you will not turn on him? He is the BEST DEFENSIVE centerfielder........His hitting was killing us but has improved, although we can't be sure how long it will last. He is not likely to be demoted. If I remember correctly, I had plenty of help in wanting him demoted. I still say Tucker deserved a shot before anyone else at the present time. Why is pointing out obvious failures and weaknesses labeled as "turning on him"? Pointing out that Altuve often has brain farts like he did last night when he got picked off two outs and a runner on third doesn't mean I am turning on himl. I just means that I am pointing out that he has made another one of his famous mental mistakes....he is a great player, but, he is not Einstein. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Jun 29, 2018 13:17:20 GMT -6
Given the front office's track record, my hunch is they're gonna keep riding Marisnick under the delusion he's a major league ballplayer. They've been overvaluing him
forever and I don't expect that to change anytime soon The fact that Marisnick is probably the best CF in the game and has prevented the opposition from scoring numerous runs and costing us games seems to be lost on some folks. Oh, his home run was also the only run in last night's game. He has produced lately while the big stars, Springer and Correa, have been in the tank. I also have to wonder WHY we need Perez and are not calling up Tucker unless there is a problem with one of the pitchers that we have not heard about. When I think of best CF in the game, I think of Griffey in his prime. Jake Marisnick is not Ken Griffey, Jr. |
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Post by astrosdoug on Jun 29, 2018 13:18:17 GMT -6
I admit that I was in the "Jake to AAA" crowd in May, but that was based on Jake putting up strikeout numbers which were moving him into the Top 3 most strikeout prone hitters in franchise history. The strikeouts were so bad that he had little hope of putting the ball in play, much less reaching base.
In fact, Hinch *did* send Jake to AAA and even though it was a brief stint, it seems to have kicked off a period of improvement.
Maybe it helped to remind Jake that his welcome on the big league team is not unconditional.
It also helped that Jake faced some of the league's most marginal pitchers, including one HR off a position player.
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Post by Saint on Jun 29, 2018 13:20:02 GMT -6
Speaking of CFers, I didn't realize how poorly Blackmon was doing after getting that hefty contract. -1.0 WAR so far...
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Post by blcoach8 on Jun 29, 2018 13:23:39 GMT -6
I admit that I was in the "Jake to AAA" crowd in May, but that was based on Jake putting up strikeout numbers which were moving him into the Top 3 most strikeout prone hitters in franchise history. The strikeouts were so bad that he had little hope of putting the ball in play, much less reaching base. In fact, Hinch *did* send Jake to AAA and even though it was a brief stint, it seems to have kicked off a period of improvement. Maybe it helped to remind Jake that his welcome on the big league team is not unconditional. It also helped that Jake faced some of the league's most marginal pitchers, including one HR off a position player. I wanted him sent down for the same reasons. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Jun 29, 2018 13:24:57 GMT -6
The fact that Marisnick is probably the best CF in the game and has prevented the opposition from scoring numerous runs and costing us games seems to be lost on some folks. Oh, his home run was also the only run in last night's game. He has produced lately while the big stars, Springer and Correa, have been in the tank. I also have to wonder WHY we need Perez and are not calling up Tucker unless there is a problem with one of the pitchers that we have not heard about. When I think of best CF in the game, I think of Griffey in his prime. Jake Marisnick is not Ken Griffey, Jr. If Jake had played at the same time as Griffey, he would not have been the best in the game. Griffey, Paul Blair, and Mays are the best three I've seen. |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Jun 29, 2018 13:27:53 GMT -6
I still want him sent down, because I don't suffer from Battered Wife Syndrome.
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Post by thomasj13 on Jun 29, 2018 13:30:22 GMT -6
I still want him sent down, because I don't suffer from Battered Wife Syndrome. But he said he would change.... |
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Post by Saint on Jun 29, 2018 13:30:28 GMT -6
I still want him sent down, because I don't suffer from Battered Wife Syndrome. I have a feeling Kemp would get sent down again before Marisnick at this point. If nothing else but because of experience and to maintain potential trade value for Kemp. Nobody is going to trade for Marisnick, but a young OFer who also plays 2B and can hit .300.....there is decent value there. |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Jun 29, 2018 13:31:32 GMT -6
It's ok. He will be back to blacking your eyes tomorrow.
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Post by thomasj13 on Jun 29, 2018 13:32:21 GMT -6
I still want him sent down, because I don't suffer from Battered Wife Syndrome. Put Sipp on that list, despite what his current stats show...don't trust him....Jake will probably stick around for defensive replacement and PR duties....starting him against a good team is a bad idea.... |
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Post by unionstation82 on Jun 29, 2018 13:34:27 GMT -6
In fairness, Jake had shown more offense yesterday than George in the past week.
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Post by astrosdoug on Jun 29, 2018 13:58:02 GMT -6
Perez allowed 1 ER on 4 hits and a walk through 4.1 innings in spring training this year, which is the last time I've seen him pitch.
Looked solid on the mound then, now it's time to see what he can against big leaguers.
If Perez pitches so well that he can't be sent down, who would you want to see cut from the current bullpen?
The injury bug has a way of making that decision a little easier but let's assume there are no lingering injuries.
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Post by Saint on Jun 29, 2018 13:59:09 GMT -6
Perez allowed 1 ER on 4 hits and a walk through 4.1 innings in spring training this year, which is the last time I've seen him pitch. Looked solid on the mound then, now it's time to see what he can against big leaguers. If Perez pitches so well that he can't be sent down, who would you want to see cut from the current bullpen? The injury bug has a way of making that decision a little easier but let's assume there are no lingering injuries. If you look at all factors, I would say Harris. |
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Post by astrosdoug on Jun 29, 2018 14:02:24 GMT -6
Perez will be well-rested. His last appearance was on June 22, when he pitched 3 innings in relief against the Frisco Roughriders.
His high pitch count for the year is 95, which he threw on June 11.
If the Astros can get ahead by 8 or 10 runs, it would be fun to see what Perez can do over a few innings.
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