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Post by unionstation82 on Aug 16, 2018 10:02:48 GMT -6
The poll they had on the game last night about the best strike out duo in Stros history where JR and Joe only got 3% of the vote in the twitter poll was ridiculous. When comparing third base man from different era's is a good talking subject. Chapman and Arenardo are not even in their prime yet. Chapman’s always had a great glove and power. I didn’t know he was up to .280 on the season. That’s superstar territory for such a defensive whiz. |
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Post by astrosdoug on Aug 16, 2018 10:08:56 GMT -6
Were is Astrosdoug to carry White's banner. He was touting him from the get-go. New semester just started at work so baseball time has been hard to come by. Just watched a replay of the game. Sure wish all the Astros games could get off to that kind of start. |
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Post by astrosdoug on Aug 16, 2018 10:23:09 GMT -6
Gurriel, Gattis, White, they all hit very impressively this game. To put what White has done in some perspective:  Hinch hasn't given White the same number of PAs has Betts or Trout have received, but White has hit nearly as well as those guys in the time he's been given. Many have continued to doubt he could keep it up, but he just keeps on... keeping it up. When he was demoted earlier this year, he had an OPS of .813. A press report said he spoke with both Hinch and Luhnow about it before heading to Fresno. White asked 'What do I have to do? (to stay on the team).' Hinch said, 'Keep on hitting'. Well this is part of what he got up to during that brief stint with Fresno: Since returning to the team, he has taken his MLB OPS from .813 to over 1.000. His career OPS+ now stands at 109 -- that is including his pretty dismal rookie season. When Springer and Altuve return to the team, it's going to be hard to decide who to send down. But if they send down the team OPS leader, well, I dunno what to say. |
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Post by paastrosfan on Aug 16, 2018 10:54:13 GMT -6
The poll they had on the game last night about the best strike out duo in Stros history where JR and Joe only got 3% of the vote in the twitter poll was ridiculous. When comparing third base man from different era's is a good talking subject. Chapman and Arenardo are not even in their prime yet. Older fans have a tendency to favor older players, and younger fans have a tendency to favor newer players. It's impossible really compared such different time periods. That is true, when you see the players play to only stories or videos, a big difference. Like the say out of sight, out of mind. |
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Post by paastrosfan on Aug 16, 2018 10:55:57 GMT -6
The poll they had on the game last night about the best strike out duo in Stros history where JR and Joe only got 3% of the vote in the twitter poll was ridiculous. When comparing third base man from different era's is a good talking subject. Chapman and Arenardo are not even in their prime yet. Chapman’s always had a great glove and power. I didn’t know he was up to .280 on the season. That’s superstar territory for such a defensive whiz. Another great third sacker Mike Schmidt didn't start out having a stellar career. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Aug 16, 2018 11:06:47 GMT -6
Glad to see Gattis hit the home runs. Did your refer to your stat sheets before the game and predict that he and White would each hit two home runs? No, based on what Gattis had done over the last several games, I did not want him to play,but, since you knew beforehand that he would hit the home runs, I am glad he was in the lineup. Just a reminder......I am NOT your "bro". I didn't predict he would hit 2 HRs, but I knew he would be a better option than guys hitting under .200 with no power. Doesn't take a stat genius to figure out that common sense, bro. Tucker has plenty of power, but, is yet to show it at this level. When a guy is 0-20 and either has consistently struck out or hit into DP's during the streak, it would have made sense to keep him out of the lineup. As it turned out, it was great thae he was in the lineup. Well, BRO.......it is obvious that you are incapable of absorbing anything other than what you see on a stat sheet. But, what can we expect from a guy who declares a player to be a star after one good year in the majors. |
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Post by Saint on Aug 16, 2018 11:34:28 GMT -6
I didn't predict he would hit 2 HRs, but I knew he would be a better option than guys hitting under .200 with no power. Doesn't take a stat genius to figure out that common sense, bro. Tucker has plenty of power, but, is yet to show it at this level. When a guy is 0-20 and either has consistently struck out or hit into DP's during the streak, it would have made sense to keep him out of the lineup. As it turned out, it was great thae he was in the lineup. Well, BRO.......it is obvious that you are incapable of absorbing anything other than what you see on a stat sheet. But, what can we expect from a guy who declares a player to be a star after one good year in the majors. So wait a minute.... You want Tucker to play when he's done absolutely nothing, but you were down on White when he had 3 HRs but only 4 RBI.... This is why I argue with you. You have zero consistency with your whims. |
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Post by abregmanfan on Aug 16, 2018 12:49:29 GMT -6
I just looked up Chapman’s offensive stats. He may be the best 3B in baseball. Jose Ramirez is the best 3B in baseball right now. I saw the other day David Wright is nearing baseball activity again. That is good to see. |
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Post by Saint on Aug 16, 2018 12:50:43 GMT -6
Jose Ramirez is the best 3B in baseball right now. I saw the other day David Wright is nearing baseball activity again. That is good to see. Yup. That guy was on pace to be a HoFer before the injuries. I'd love to see a successful comeback for him. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Aug 16, 2018 13:07:29 GMT -6
Tucker has plenty of power, but, is yet to show it at this level. When a guy is 0-20 and either has consistently struck out or hit into DP's during the streak, it would have made sense to keep him out of the lineup. As it turned out, it was great thae he was in the lineup. Well, BRO.......it is obvious that you are incapable of absorbing anything other than what you see on a stat sheet. But, what can we expect from a guy who declares a player to be a star after one good year in the majors. So wait a minute.... You want Tucker to play when he's done absolutely nothing, but you were down on White when he had 3 HRs but only 4 RBI.... This is why I argue with you. You have zero consistency with your whims. Sort of an ironic comment coming from a guy who has to consult a stat sheet before thinking. Let me try to get through one more time........Gattis was in an 0-20 slump prior to last night's game and most of those at bats had produced strikeouts and hitting into DP's. Tucker had hit the ball well since coming back with no results, plus he has good speed, Gattis does not. When I was down on White, his lack of production was evident and I pointed it out. You would not hear of it........all you wanted to see was his WAR, OBP, OPS,etc. at that time, White had 43 at bats with 4 extra base hits and 4 runs batted in......not good production. He is now driving in runs and being productive and I have also pointed that out more than once. I have no problem with you arguing with me.........we agree on some things, and there are things on which we don't agree.....the total reliance on stats is one of them. |
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Post by Saint on Aug 16, 2018 13:10:28 GMT -6
So wait a minute.... You want Tucker to play when he's done absolutely nothing, but you were down on White when he had 3 HRs but only 4 RBI.... This is why I argue with you. You have zero consistency with your whims. Sort of an ironic comment coming from a guy who has to consult a stat sheet before thinking. Let me try to get through one more time........Gattis was in an 0-20 slump prior to last night's game and most of those at bats had produced strikeouts and hitting into DP's. Tucker had hit the ball well since coming back with no results, plus he has good speed, Gattis does not. When I was down on White, his lack of production was evident and I pointed it out. You would not hear of it........all you wanted to see was his WAR, OBP, OPS,etc. at that time, White had 43 at bats with 4 extra base hits and 4 runs batted in......not good production. He is now driving in runs and being productive and I have also pointed that out more than once. I have no problem with you arguing with me.........we agree on some things, and there are things on which we don't agree.....the total reliance on stats is one of them. It's because your biased with your assessments if stats aren't used. "Tucker has hit the ball well" but with no evidence that it's accurate. No results. Nothing. He hit a deep flyball to CF so that means something? I would take your non-stat outlook more seriously if there was any consistency at all. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Aug 16, 2018 13:34:02 GMT -6
Sort of an ironic comment coming from a guy who has to consult a stat sheet before thinking. Let me try to get through one more time........Gattis was in an 0-20 slump prior to last night's game and most of those at bats had produced strikeouts and hitting into DP's. Tucker had hit the ball well since coming back with no results, plus he has good speed, Gattis does not. When I was down on White, his lack of production was evident and I pointed it out. You would not hear of it........all you wanted to see was his WAR, OBP, OPS,etc. at that time, White had 43 at bats with 4 extra base hits and 4 runs batted in......not good production. He is now driving in runs and being productive and I have also pointed that out more than once. I have no problem with you arguing with me.........we agree on some things, and there are things on which we don't agree.....the total reliance on stats is one of them. It's because your biased with your assessments if stats aren't used. "Tucker has hit the ball well" but with no evidence that it's accurate. No results. Nothing. He hit a deep flyball to CF so that means something? I would take your non-stat outlook more seriously if there was any consistency at all. I have no problem with you not taking my outlook seriously. If don't think Tucker has hit the ball well since his recall, you have not seen the games or have ignored what is in front of you. The broadcasters have mentioned it in any game where he has been involved. I would think that a stat person like you would have a stat that tracked how well he has hit the ball......what has been his "exit velocity", etc. I saw the 'evidence" that he hit the ball well just like I watched Gattis strike out and hit into DP's. You are very consistent.......you consistently base every thought you have on a damn stat sheet.  |
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Post by Saint on Aug 16, 2018 13:45:23 GMT -6
It's because your biased with your assessments if stats aren't used. "Tucker has hit the ball well" but with no evidence that it's accurate. No results. Nothing. He hit a deep flyball to CF so that means something? I would take your non-stat outlook more seriously if there was any consistency at all. I have no problem with you not taking my outlook seriously. If don't think Tucker has hit the ball well since his recall, you have not seen the games or have ignored what is in front of you. The broadcasters have mentioned it in any game where he has been involved. I would think that a stat person like you would have a stat that tracked how well he has hit the ball......what has been his "exit velocity", etc. I saw the 'evidence" that he hit the ball well just like I watched Gattis strike out and hit into DP's. You are very consistent.......you consistently base every thought you have on a damn stat sheet. I'd rather be consistent and have people think I put too much credence in stats, than be inconsistent with nothing to support it... |
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Post by blcoach8 on Aug 16, 2018 14:19:31 GMT -6
I have no problem with you not taking my outlook seriously. If don't think Tucker has hit the ball well since his recall, you have not seen the games or have ignored what is in front of you. The broadcasters have mentioned it in any game where he has been involved. I would think that a stat person like you would have a stat that tracked how well he has hit the ball......what has been his "exit velocity", etc. I saw the 'evidence" that he hit the ball well just like I watched Gattis strike out and hit into DP's. You are very consistent.......you consistently base every thought you have on a damn stat sheet. I'd rather be consistent and have people think I put too much credence in stats, than be inconsistent with nothing to support it... I don't need stats to tell me what I saw and I don't need WAR, OBP, exit velocity, OPS, etc. to verify it. I am perfectly capable of forming opinions based on what I SEE instead of referring to a stat sheet. You consistently ignore any opinion not backed up by a stat sheet. Are you capable of reaching a conclusion based on anything you don't get from a stat sheet? I doubt it as I have seen no EVIDENCE to that effect. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Aug 16, 2018 14:22:03 GMT -6
To Saint and Coach:
Does God exist?
Please discuss.
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Post by m240 on Aug 16, 2018 14:25:19 GMT -6
It's because your biased with your assessments if stats aren't used. "Tucker has hit the ball well" but with no evidence that it's accurate. No results. Nothing. He hit a deep flyball to CF so that means something? I would take your non-stat outlook more seriously if there was any consistency at all. I have no problem with you not taking my outlook seriously. If don't think Tucker has hit the ball well since his recall, you have not seen the games or have ignored what is in front of you. The broadcasters have mentioned it in any game where he has been involved. I would think that a stat person like you would have a stat that tracked how well he has hit the ball......what has been his "exit velocity", etc. I saw the 'evidence" that he hit the ball well just like I watched Gattis strike out and hit into DP's. You are very consistent.......you consistently base every thought you have on a damn stat sheet. Tucker's average exit velocity is 90.8 mph versus a league average of 88.5. His launch angle is 12.1 degrees, more or less league average. His babip is only 200 suggesting that he has suffered from some very bad luck so far. |
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Post by m240 on Aug 16, 2018 14:26:18 GMT -6
To Saint and Coach: Does God exist? Please discuss. please include any statistical validation readily available. |
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Post by Saint on Aug 16, 2018 14:28:21 GMT -6
I'd rather be consistent and have people think I put too much credence in stats, than be inconsistent with nothing to support it... I don't need stats to tell me what I saw and I don't need WAR, OBP, exit velocity, OPS, etc. to verify it. I am perfectly capable of forming opinions based on what I SEE instead of referring to a stat sheet. You consistently ignore any opinion not backed up by a stat sheet. Are you capable of reaching a conclusion based on anything you don't get from a stat sheet? I doubt it as I have seen no EVIDENCE to that effect. So you haven't seen me post multiple times about intangibles and clubhouse chemistry? Or mention repeatedly the negatice effect there has been on the team without Altuve in the lineup even when he isn't having an amazing year by his standards? Just because I use stats to be nonbiased and to try and put actual factual and verifiable information into my arguments doesn't mean I only go by stats. |
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Post by Saint on Aug 16, 2018 14:29:45 GMT -6
To Saint and Coach: Does God exist? Please discuss. I suppose it depends on who you ask. Statistical evidence is slim at best if we're going to be brutally honest. However, I think most people, religious or not, would say that they feel there has to be more to life than what we currently have. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Aug 16, 2018 15:36:47 GMT -6
To Saint and Coach: Does God exist? Please discuss. God definitely exists.........I don't know what His WAR is, but He will win the last war.. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Aug 16, 2018 15:38:34 GMT -6
To Saint and Coach: Does God exist? Please discuss. I suppose it depends on who you ask. Statistical evidence is slim at best if we're going to be brutally honest. However, I think most people, religious or not, would say that they feel there has to be more to life than what we currently have. Leave it to you bring up stats when God's name is mentioned. Those who are foolish enough to not believe in His existence will learn the hard way and the probablity of that happening is 1.000 |
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Post by Saint on Aug 16, 2018 15:44:24 GMT -6
I suppose it depends on who you ask. Statistical evidence is slim at best if we're going to be brutally honest. However, I think most people, religious or not, would say that they feel there has to be more to life than what we currently have. Leave it to you bring up stats when God's name is mentioned. Those who are foolish enough to not believe in His existence will learn the hard way and the probablity of that happening is 1.000 It was a joke based on our argument trends. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Aug 16, 2018 16:19:59 GMT -6
Leave it to you bring up stats when God's name is mentioned. Those who are foolish enough to not believe in His existence will learn the hard way and the probablity of that happening is 1.000 It was a joke based on our argument trends. Ok. I can accept that. |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Aug 16, 2018 18:42:10 GMT -6
Jesus, some of y'all are 'tards.
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Post by Saint on Aug 16, 2018 19:01:13 GMT -6
Jesus, some of y'all are 'tards. Offensive. Where is the moderator!?!?!? |
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Post by blcoach8 on Aug 16, 2018 19:46:51 GMT -6
Jesus, some of y'all are 'tards. I hope Eddie doesn't see it |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Aug 16, 2018 20:15:06 GMT -6
Saint is Ghick 2.0.
Corch is Astrohop 2.0
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Post by blcoach8 on Aug 16, 2018 21:58:12 GMT -6
Saint is Ghick 2.0. Corch is Astrohop 2.0 Who the hell are Ghick and Astrohop?  ?? |
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Post by unionstation82 on Aug 16, 2018 22:04:10 GMT -6
Saint is Ghick 2.0. Corch is Astrohop 2.0 Who the hell are Ghick and Astrohop? ?? We don’t have time for those stories. |
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Post by bearbryant on Aug 17, 2018 1:25:32 GMT -6
Saint is Ghick 2.0. Corch is Astrohop 2.0 |
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