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Post by Saint on Sept 4, 2018 11:20:23 GMT -6
85-53
.616 winning percentage (On pace for 100 Wins.)
2.5 games ahead of Oakland in the division.
9.5 games behind Boston for overall lead (1 game behind NYY for 2nd best overall.)
1st in run differential at +224
Team OPS+: 110
Team ERA+: 129
Verlander vs. May
Verlander is currently sitting at 13-9 2.78 ERA and 240 Strikeouts. It would be nice to see a good full 6-7 innings of dominance against a weak-hitting Twins team from JV. He's got good numbers against most of them, and destroyed them back in April. 4 Strikeouts puts him back in the league lead. JV/Cole are only 17 strikeouts away from 500 as a duo for the season.
Hopefully the offense gives him some support. We need Altuve to get going again, and the other veterans outside of Bregman to start hitting consistently. Springer is hitting .300 with an .800+ OPS over the last two weeks.
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Post by Saint on Sept 4, 2018 11:26:08 GMT -6
Also, Verlander is 30 Strikeouts away from a new career best. 4-6 starts lefts he has a very good chance at breaking that.
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Post by unionstation82 on Sept 4, 2018 12:19:17 GMT -6
Also, Verlander is 30 Strikeouts away from a new career best. 4-6 starts lefts he has a very good chance at breaking that. Let’s make it 60 more. |
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Post by marshall on Sept 4, 2018 12:43:44 GMT -6
Assuming Marwin will get the day off after his injury yesterday, is there any chance we could see something like this with Kemp playing 2B? Yuli sitting after his HR yesterday would be typical. First Last Pos OPS+/ERA+1 George Springer LF 112 2 Tony Kemp 2B 117 3 Alex Bregman 3B 157 4 Carlos Correa SS 112 5 Tyler White 1B 182 6 Jake Marisnick CF 89 7 Martin Maldonado C 103 8 Evan Gattis DH 109 9 Josh Reddick RF 99 P Justin Verlander SP 143
What was I thinking. Verlander is starting, so it has to be McCann catching...
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Post by Saint on Sept 4, 2018 12:47:32 GMT -6
I don't think Altuve is sitting out today based on what they've said.
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Post by blcoach8 on Sept 4, 2018 13:11:32 GMT -6
I don't think Altuve is sitting out today based on what they've said. I agree. Atluve will be back at 2B batting second or third in the lineup. I think Hinch indicated that Marwin would be held out of the rest of the Twins series. If so I hope we see this since we know Hinch won't move Correa. Springer RF Altuve 2B Bregman 3B Correa SS White DH Gurriel 1B Maldonado C Marisnick CF Kemp LF But, I expect Reddick in RF, Springer in CF and Kemp in LF. I DON'T want to see Gattis or Davis. |
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Post by Saint on Sept 4, 2018 13:23:29 GMT -6
I don't think Altuve is sitting out today based on what they've said. I agree. Atluve will be back at 2B batting second or third in the lineup. I think Hinch indicated that Marwin would be held out of the rest of the Twins series. If so I hope we see this since we know Hinch won't move Correa. Springer RF Altuve 2B Bregman 3B Correa SS White DH Gurriel 1B Maldonado C Marisnick CF Kemp LF But, I expect Reddick in RF, Springer in CF and Kemp in LF. I DON'T want to see Gattis or Davis.Correa has shown signs of life lately (not yesterday), but I think he is about to break loose. I also expect to see McCann catch Verlander. |
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Post by Saint on Sept 4, 2018 13:26:08 GMT -6
Verlander hasn't won more than 16 games since 2012 despite his great seasons (outside of 2014). He'll likely get at least 5 more starts. If he can 4 wins out of those he'll hit 17. Slim chance, but possible.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2018 13:27:18 GMT -6
Verlander hasn't won more than 16 games since 2012 despite his great seasons (outside of 2014). He'll likely get at least 5 more starts. If he can 4 wins out of those he'll hit 17. Slim chance, but possible. I hope he gets it. He deserves it. There has been plenty of games this year he pitched great or good and the offense did not back up his performance. |
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Post by Saint on Sept 4, 2018 13:28:31 GMT -6
Verlander hasn't won more than 16 games since 2012 despite his great seasons (outside of 2014). He'll likely get at least 5 more starts. If he can 4 wins out of those he'll hit 17. Slim chance, but possible. I hope he gets it. He deserves it. There has been plenty of games this year he pitched great or good and the offense did not back up his performance. Yeah with his amount of innings pitched and dominance in the first half, he should easily already have 15-17 wins if we had given him any kind of run support those first couple months. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Sept 4, 2018 13:35:44 GMT -6
I agree. Atluve will be back at 2B batting second or third in the lineup. I think Hinch indicated that Marwin would be held out of the rest of the Twins series. If so I hope we see this since we know Hinch won't move Correa. Springer RF Altuve 2B Bregman 3B Correa SS White DH Gurriel 1B Maldonado C Marisnick CF Kemp LF But, I expect Reddick in RF, Springer in CF and Kemp in LF. I DON'T want to see Gattis or Davis.Correa has shown signs of life lately (not yesterday), but I think he is about to break loose. I also expect to see McCann catch Verlander. I am OK with either Maldonado or McCann catching. I think Verlander is comfortable with both. I know we won't see Stassi catching him. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Sept 4, 2018 13:37:37 GMT -6
Verlander hasn't won more than 16 games since 2012 despite his great seasons (outside of 2014). He'll likely get at least 5 more starts. If he can 4 wins out of those he'll hit 17. Slim chance, but possible. Wins don't always tell the story of how a pitcher has pitched. Lack of run support probably cost Verlander at least 3 wins before the All-star break. He deserved his home loss to the Tigers for allowing 4 home runs. Lack of run support has not only cost Verlander wins, but, others starters as well. |
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Post by Saint on Sept 4, 2018 13:44:12 GMT -6
Verlander hasn't won more than 16 games since 2012 despite his great seasons (outside of 2014). He'll likely get at least 5 more starts. If he can 4 wins out of those he'll hit 17. Slim chance, but possible. Wins don't always tell the story of how a pitcher has pitched. Lack of run support probably cost Verlander at least 3 wins before the All-star break. He deserved his home loss to the Tigers for allowing 4 home runs. Lack of run support has not only cost Verlander wins, but, others starters as well. For sure wins are overrated as a primary stat for pitchers. But they still mean something to voters and to most starters still. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Sept 4, 2018 14:21:35 GMT -6
Wins don't always tell the story of how a pitcher has pitched. Lack of run support probably cost Verlander at least 3 wins before the All-star break. He deserved his home loss to the Tigers for allowing 4 home runs. Lack of run support has not only cost Verlander wins, but, others starters as well. For sure wins are overrated as a primary stat for pitchers. But they still mean something to voters and to most starters still. Right. Too many people look at the wins and losses. I remember when Nolan Ryan went 8-16 with the Astros and his ERA was 2.76. He did his job.......the offense was terrible. |
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Post by marshall on Sept 4, 2018 14:47:37 GMT -6
For sure wins are overrated as a primary stat for pitchers. But they still mean something to voters and to most starters still. Right. Too many people look at the wins and losses. I remember when Nolan Ryan went 8-16 with the Astros and his ERA was 2.76. He did his job.......the offense was terrible. My memory is playing tricks on me. I thought he had an ERA of 1.69 that year.
I guess that was his second year. I got the detail right, but the context wrong.
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Sept 4, 2018 14:48:20 GMT -6
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Sept 4, 2018 14:51:01 GMT -6
No Marisnick and no Gattis. Good.
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Post by blcoach8 on Sept 4, 2018 14:53:18 GMT -6
Right. Too many people look at the wins and losses. I remember when Nolan Ryan went 8-16 with the Astros and his ERA was 2.76. He did his job.......the offense was terrible. My memory is playing tricks on me. I thought he had an ERA of 1.69 that year.
I guess that was his second year. I got the detail right, but the context wrong.
I thought he did, too, I checked before posting that and the source said 2.76 |
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Post by blcoach8 on Sept 4, 2018 14:55:33 GMT -6
No Marisnick and no Gattis. Good. Since Reddick is an automatic out right now, it would make sense to put Jake in CF, Springer in right, and Kemp in LF. Jake was hitting at the time he went to the DL, Since Reddick is awful right now, give Jake a shot. It also gives us a better outfield. |
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Post by marshall on Sept 4, 2018 14:57:02 GMT -6
First Last Pos OPS+/ERA+
1 George Springer CF 112
2 Jose Altuve 2B 135
3 Alex Bregman 3B 157
4 Carlos Correa SS 112
5 Tyler White DH 182
6 Yuli Gurriel 1B 98
7 Josh Reddick RF 99
8 Martin Maldonado C 103
9 Tony Kemp LF 117
P Justin Verlander SP 143
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Post by koolade2 on Sept 4, 2018 15:33:46 GMT -6
No Marisnick and no Gattis. Good. Since Reddick is an automatic out right now, it would make sense to put Jake in CF, Springer in right, and Kemp in LF. Jake was hitting at the time he went to the DL, Since Reddick is awful right now, give Jake a shot. It also gives us a better outfield.You You know how stubborn Hinch is with last year Players. No matter what they gotta play if the clipboard says so! |
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Post by koolade2 on Sept 4, 2018 15:37:31 GMT -6
Here's my problem with what Hinch does. Player A is brought up and was hot down on the farm. What does Hinch do sits him for first 6-8 games and lets Player A lose confidence and his hot streak go boom. We as fans have a freakout blame Player A for being a dunce.
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Post by blcoach8 on Sept 4, 2018 15:38:42 GMT -6
If that clipboard is telling him to keep Reddick in the lineup and not give Jake a shot, he needs a new clipboard.........especially if it's the one that says bring Harris in to pitch.
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Post by olpapa on Sept 4, 2018 15:45:19 GMT -6
If that clipboard is telling him to keep Reddick in the lineup and not give Jake a shot, he needs a new clipboard.........especially if it's the one that says bring Harris in to pitch. AJ’s first commandment: I. Thou shalt not blaspheme the clipboard. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Sept 4, 2018 16:00:05 GMT -6
If that clipboard is telling him to keep Reddick in the lineup and not give Jake a shot, he needs a new clipboard.........especially if it's the one that says bring Harris in to pitch. AJ’s first commandment: I. Thou shalt not blaspheme the clipboard. that is the 2nd AJ commandment as well. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Sept 4, 2018 16:31:32 GMT -6
No Marisnick and no Gattis. Good. And no one suspects we did anything. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Sept 4, 2018 16:58:10 GMT -6
No Marisnick and no Gattis. Good. And no one suspects we did anything. Hinch is always talking about ways to get players at bats, yet, he keeps going with Reddick who is not hitting and not giving at bats to Jake who was hitting when he went on the DL. He is the best outfielder on the team as well as the fastest. Sit Reddick and give him a chance. I agree with Gattis sitting. That home run Gurrile hit yesterday probably means he can go 0-20 and stay in the lineup........the clipboard will say so. |
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Post by Saint on Sept 4, 2018 17:02:26 GMT -6
Y'all seem surprised that they're playing veterans signed to big contracts that had great years last year.
They're not going to waste money, especially when they don't have big improvements for those veterans anyways.
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Post by m240 on Sept 4, 2018 17:31:46 GMT -6
Next year's outfield could get real interesting with Tucker and Alvarez getting added into the mix. Alvarez is a left fielder, Tucker is a right fielder, and Springer is a center fielder, and Reddick is..........................26 million dollars sitting on the bench for the next two years.
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Post by m240 on Sept 4, 2018 17:33:12 GMT -6
Not saying that they will both be starting by April but am pretty sure that they will be by June.
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