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Correa
Sept 13, 2018 15:04:39 GMT -6
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Correa
Sept 13, 2018 15:13:25 GMT -6
Post by koolade2 on Sept 13, 2018 15:13:25 GMT -6
Considering I was never a Huge Correa fan. All the Hype and I don't think he came close to fulfilling those shoes. Maybe that is part of the Problem. I know he has had a couple big moments but overall he was never really in the top 10 offense. Too many strikeouts and leaving men on base. He sunk himself when he came out and said he wanted to be MVP. From the first month of this year, he never came close to even being considered. He has only gone downhill from there especially since coming off of the DL.
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Correa
Sept 13, 2018 15:55:46 GMT -6
Post by blcoach8 on Sept 13, 2018 15:55:46 GMT -6
I'd bench his ass now and see if that would wake him up. He is obviously too stupid or too stubborn to realize why he continues to struggle at the plate. He has shown no signs of trying to correct his problems becaue he does the same crap time and time again........Takes center cut fasstballs (even with RISP) until he is behind in the count, often 0-2. Then, he strikes out at pitches out of the zone. If he doesn't strike out, he hits weak ground balls or popups. Right now he is the most useless, non-productive player on our roster. Opposing pitchers should intentionally walk good hitters to get to this dumbass.
If he continues as he is going now, he would be an automatic out in the playoffs.
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Correa
Sept 13, 2018 15:56:47 GMT -6
Post by sempersmom on Sept 13, 2018 15:56:47 GMT -6
I couldn't listen to the entire thing. Josh Innes annoys the hell out of me, and no, Correa should not be benched. I remember people wanting Springer benched or moved down the lineup. I trust AJ to make the right call. |
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Sept 13, 2018 15:59:23 GMT -6
Post by sempersmom on Sept 13, 2018 15:59:23 GMT -6
I'd bench his ass now and see if that would wake him up. He is obviously too stupid or too stubborn to realize why he continues to struggle at the plate. He has shown no signs of trying to correct his problems becaue he does the same crap time and time again........Takes center cut fasstballs (even with RISP) until he is behind in the count, often 0-2. Then, he strikes out at pitches out of the zone. If he doesn't strike out, he hits weak ground balls or popups. Right now he is the most useless, non-productive player on our roster. Opposing pitchers should intentionally walk good hitters to get to this dumbass. If he continues as he is going now, he would be an automatic out in the playoffs. Oh please, there you go again calling one of our players stupid. I remember you saying Altuve was stupid. You have no idea what is going on in their heads. Like I've said before, he wants to succeed more than you know. This is his livelihood. |
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Correa
Sept 13, 2018 16:00:37 GMT -6
Post by blcoach8 on Sept 13, 2018 16:00:37 GMT -6
I couldn't listen to the entire thing. Josh Innes annoys the hell out of me, and no, Correa should not be benched. I remember people wanting Springer benched or moved down the lineup. I trust AJ to make the right call. He is 17-103 since coming off the DL with only THREE extra base hits, yet, AJ continues to bat him in the middle of the lineup. I can't see how that is making the right call. I see that as being afraid to hurt Correa's feelings while he continues killing the offense with non-productive at bats. |
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Correa
Sept 13, 2018 16:03:18 GMT -6
Post by blcoach8 on Sept 13, 2018 16:03:18 GMT -6
I'd bench his ass now and see if that would wake him up. He is obviously too stupid or too stubborn to realize why he continues to struggle at the plate. He has shown no signs of trying to correct his problems becaue he does the same crap time and time again........Takes center cut fasstballs (even with RISP) until he is behind in the count, often 0-2. Then, he strikes out at pitches out of the zone. If he doesn't strike out, he hits weak ground balls or popups. Right now he is the most useless, non-productive player on our roster. Opposing pitchers should intentionally walk good hitters to get to this dumbass. If he continues as he is going now, he would be an automatic out in the playoffs. Oh please, there you go again calling one of our players stupid. I remember you saying Altuve was stupid. You have no idea what is going on in their heads. Like I've said before, he wants to succeed more than you know. This is his livelihood. Well, refusing to see or adjust at the plate while going 17-103 doesn't make him appear to be very bright. Good, intelligent players make adjustments. Carlos keeps doing the same thing over and over and over with the same results. If that doen't make him look like dumb, I don't know what does. |
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Correa
Sept 13, 2018 16:39:33 GMT -6
Post by blcoach8 on Sept 13, 2018 16:39:33 GMT -6
I was one who was anxiously awaiting Correa's return from the DL so our offense would get going. Having both him and Altuve out, and sometimes Springer at the same time, was really hurting our ability to score. If not for the emergence of Tyler White and continued production from Bregman, the Astros would be looking up at the A's in the standings. Altuve didn't hit well when he first returned, but, he made adjustments and seems to be getting back to normal. Springer has come around and is producing. However, Carlos Correa has been terrible since his return. He will have a couple of good at bats and then revert back to getting himself out by making bad decisions at the plate. It is hard to understand why he continues to make the same mistakes over and over when he continues getting negative results. We are currently winning in spite of Correa, not because of anything he has done to help.
With an off-day at home today, it will be interesting to see how the team plays against the D-backs tomorrow. I hope I'm wrong, but, I predict we get the same thing from Correa that we have gotten for most of the season.......nothing.
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Correa
Sept 13, 2018 18:15:53 GMT -6
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Post by unionstation82 on Sept 13, 2018 18:15:53 GMT -6
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Correa
Sept 13, 2018 18:42:33 GMT -6
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Post by thomasj13 on Sept 13, 2018 18:42:33 GMT -6
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Correa
Sept 13, 2018 18:49:07 GMT -6
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Post by unionstation82 on Sept 13, 2018 18:49:07 GMT -6
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Correa
Sept 13, 2018 18:54:34 GMT -6
Post by olpapa on Sept 13, 2018 18:54:34 GMT -6
Something is not right with Correa. Either the guy is hurting physically to the point that he is hesitant to swing the bat or it is a mental thing. Either way, if he is going to be benched, the time to do it is now.... not wait until the playoffs roll around. If he sat out a few games now, maybe he could get healthy and/or get his mental game together before the playoffs.
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Correa
Sept 13, 2018 19:07:25 GMT -6
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Post by unionstation82 on Sept 13, 2018 19:07:25 GMT -6
Something is not right with Correa. Either the guy is hurting physically to the point that he is hesitant to swing the bat or it is a mental thing. Either way, if he is going to be benched, the time to do it is now.... not wait until the playoffs roll around. If he sat out a few games now, maybe he could get healthy and/or get his mental game together before the playoffs. Hinch needs to do something soon. Putting a lineup on cruise control doesn’t take much skill. |
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Correa
Sept 13, 2018 19:12:09 GMT -6
Post by blcoach8 on Sept 13, 2018 19:12:09 GMT -6
Something is not right with Correa. Either the guy is hurting physically to the point that he is hesitant to swing the bat or it is a mental thing. Either way, if he is going to be benched, the time to do it is now.... not wait until the playoffs roll around. If he sat out a few games now, maybe he could get healthy and/or get his mental game together before the playoffs. Something is definitely wrong,and, whatever it is needs to be discovered and dealt with. He has appeared hestant to swing since his return so that could mean a continuing back problem. Whatever it is, we need a healthy, focused Carlos Correa for the post-season. What we are seeing from him now will be of no use and could hurt the team. I am hoping things get turned around soon whatever the problems may be. |
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Correa
Sept 13, 2018 19:13:17 GMT -6
Post by blcoach8 on Sept 13, 2018 19:13:17 GMT -6
Something is not right with Correa. Either the guy is hurting physically to the point that he is hesitant to swing the bat or it is a mental thing. Either way, if he is going to be benched, the time to do it is now.... not wait until the playoffs roll around. If he sat out a few games now, maybe he could get healthy and/or get his mental game together before the playoffs. Hinch needs to do something soon. Putting a lineup on cruise control doesn’t take much skill. Hinch appears to not think there is a problem since he says he won't move him out of the middle of the order. If there is something phycially wrong, he should not be playing until it's handled. |
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Correa
Sept 13, 2018 19:23:35 GMT -6
Post by olpapa on Sept 13, 2018 19:23:35 GMT -6
Hinch needs to do something soon. Putting a lineup on cruise control doesn’t take much skill. Hinch appears to not think there is a problem since he says he won't move him out of the middle of the order. If there is something phycially wrong, he should not be playing until it's handled. If AJ thinks Correa has to be in the lineup for his glove, there is no reason he is batting in the middle of the order right now other than to stroke his ego. This is a case where AJ is putting one player’s ego ahead of what is best for the team IMO. |
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Correa
Sept 13, 2018 22:01:33 GMT -6
Post by blcoach8 on Sept 13, 2018 22:01:33 GMT -6
Hinch appears to not think there is a problem since he says he won't move him out of the middle of the order. If there is something phycially wrong, he should not be playing until it's handled. If AJ thinks Correa has to be in the lineup for his glove, there is no reason he is batting in the middle of the order right now other than to stroke his ego. This is a case where AJ is putting one player’s ego ahead of what is best for the team IMO. That is what I can't understand.......keeping a guy who is 17-103 hitting in the middle of the lineup. |
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Correa
Sept 13, 2018 22:07:47 GMT -6
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Post by unionstation82 on Sept 13, 2018 22:07:47 GMT -6
People might hate it, but we need Correa in the lineup because I can’t handle any more halfassed defense from Marwin.
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Correa
Sept 13, 2018 23:38:19 GMT -6
Post by blcoach8 on Sept 13, 2018 23:38:19 GMT -6
People might hate it, but we need Correa in the lineup because I can’t handle any more halfassed defense from Marwin. We should not keep tolerating an automatic out in the middle of the lineup, either. |
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Correa
Sept 14, 2018 5:49:56 GMT -6
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Post by olpapa on Sept 14, 2018 5:49:56 GMT -6
People might hate it, but we need Correa in the lineup because I can’t handle any more halfassed defense from Marwin. Like I said..., if AJ wants him in the lineup for his defense, he doesn’t have to bat him in the middle of the batting order. The guy is 17-104 with 2 doubles and 1 home run since he returned from the DL in August. His slugging percentage was .225 in August. It is .182 in September. OPS was .460 in August. It is .457 in September. This isn’t a mini-slump here. Until he gets well, Correa should be batting no higher than eighth in the order. |
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Correa
Sept 14, 2018 8:03:19 GMT -6
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Post by unionstation82 on Sept 14, 2018 8:03:19 GMT -6
People might hate it, but we need Correa in the lineup because I can’t handle any more halfassed defense from Marwin. Like I said..., if AJ wants him in the lineup for his defense, he doesn’t have to bat him in the middle of the batting order. The guy is 17-104 with 2 doubles and 1 home run since he returned from the DL in August. His slugging percentage was .225 in August. It is .182 in September. OPS was .460 in August. It is .457 in September. This isn’t a mini-slump here. Until he gets well, Correa should be batting no higher than eighth in the order. Agreed. |
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Correa
Sept 14, 2018 8:37:53 GMT -6
Post by blcoach8 on Sept 14, 2018 8:37:53 GMT -6
People might hate it, but we need Correa in the lineup because I can’t handle any more halfassed defense from Marwin. Like I said..., if AJ wants him in the lineup for his defense, he doesn’t have to bat him in the middle of the batting order. The guy is 17-104 with 2 doubles and 1 home run since he returned from the DL in August. His slugging percentage was .225 in August. It is .182 in September. OPS was .460 in August. It is .457 in September. This isn’t a mini-slump here. Until he gets well, Correa should be batting no higher than eighth in the order. Agreed, but, AJ will keep him in the same spot. |
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Correa
Sept 14, 2018 8:53:47 GMT -6
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Post by olpapa on Sept 14, 2018 8:53:47 GMT -6
I know that it will never happen, but I would like to see AJ sit Correa until the Baltimore series to give him a chance to mend and then bring him back against their pitching staff to build some confidence before the playoffs. While CC is out (once Fresno is finished with their season, NLT 9/19) I would go with this lineup:
Altuve 2B
Kemp LF
Bregman SS
Springer CF
Gurriel 1B/DH
White DH/1B
Gonzalez 3B
Tucker RF
Maldonado/McCann C
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Correa
Sept 14, 2018 10:00:16 GMT -6
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Post by unionstation82 on Sept 14, 2018 10:00:16 GMT -6
I know that it will never happen, but I would like to see AJ sit Correa until the Baltimore series to give him a chance to mend and then bring him back against their pitching staff to build some confidence before the playoffs. While CC is out (once Fresno is finished with their season, NLT 9/19) I would go with this lineup: Altuve 2B Kemp LF Bregman SS Springer CF Gurriel 1B/DH White DH/1B Gonzalez 3B Tucker RF Maldonado/McCann C The question is if sitting out a series would make a difference. |
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Correa
Sept 14, 2018 11:03:08 GMT -6
Post by thomasj13 on Sept 14, 2018 11:03:08 GMT -6
I know that it will never happen, but I would like to see AJ sit Correa until the Baltimore series to give him a chance to mend and then bring him back against their pitching staff to build some confidence before the playoffs. While CC is out (once Fresno is finished with their season, NLT 9/19) I would go with this lineup: Altuve 2B Kemp LF Bregman SS Springer CF Gurriel 1B/DH White DH/1B Gonzalez 3B Tucker RF Maldonado/McCann C The question is if sitting out a series would make a difference. If he is hurting, and not just not soreness, then rest him...But Correa is the heart of the order type of guy...It is very important for the Astros come playoffs that Correa has been given a lot of ABs to get back into the swing of things (pun intended).... Has anyone ever watched Top Gun, after Goose died, they kept sending Maverick up there....This is one of those moments....and the Ice Man even questioned the Admiral to have Maverick as the primary standby pilot....And who won the day, saved his ass and others... Maverick... This also has shades of last year, when Astros were heading into the WS...and Springer was not doing well at all....up to that point I was one of the many here, and elsewhere, favor of taking him off the leadoff position....and Springer rose to the occasion, his talent won through...WS Champs and Springer was the WS! Therefore, keep sending Correa out there in the heart of the order. |
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Correa
Sept 14, 2018 12:19:30 GMT -6
Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Sept 14, 2018 12:19:30 GMT -6
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Correa
Sept 14, 2018 12:39:49 GMT -6
Post by thomasj13 on Sept 14, 2018 12:39:49 GMT -6
No, not in this instance, it is how many ever ABs it takes Correa to get it together before playoff time. Unless he is injured, keep trotting him out there in heart of the order....I believe in Correa...I should have Springer....learned my lesson....I am not abandoning ship this time... |
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Correa
Sept 14, 2018 12:51:14 GMT -6
Post by marshall on Sept 14, 2018 12:51:14 GMT -6
It was the KC series in mid June where something happened. I initially thought he hurt his wrist. but it might have been his back, He stopped reacting to the ball and started guessing. He either takes full swings or leaves the bats on his shoulder.
I am convinced he is trying to work through pain to try to help his team mates and simply can't. His AVG dropped from .285ish to below the Mendoza line. He will very occasionally guess right and make AJ think he's about to go on a run. But he can't sustain it even for one more game.
I'd consider placing him on the 60 day DL and hope whatever it is goes away and he returns to form next season, but I'd demand he wait until he can check his swing without hurting himself before returning.
And if that is too much for AJ, then bat him 8th where non hitting shortstops have traditionally batted since we have a good 9th slot hitter in Kemp. Other than a single 3 hit game on August 21st, he hasn't had three hits over any two consecutive games span since June 18.
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Correa
Sept 14, 2018 13:14:43 GMT -6
Post by olpapa on Sept 14, 2018 13:14:43 GMT -6
No, not in this instance, it is how many ever ABs it takes Correa to get it together before playoff time. Unless he is injured, keep trotting him out there in heart of the order....I believe in Correa...I should have Springer....learned my lesson....I am not abandoning ship this time... There is a huge difference between Springer in the playoffs last fall and Correa since he has returned from the DL. Springer batted .412 (7-17) in the ALDS before going 3-29 in the ALCS followed by 0-4 in game 1 of the WS. Springer had been in a 8-game slump over the course of 11 days when he broke loose in the WS. Prior to those 8 games/11 days, he had been red hot. Correa has been in a slump now for his last 29 games over the course of more than a month and over 100 ABs. Springer was healthy. I’m inclined to believe that Correa is not. IMO the circumstances involved with their slumps is not comparable. Correa is getting worse with more playing time.., not better. His BA, Slg Pct and OPS are all down in September from the already meager numbers he posted in August. I don’t see any reason to think he is going to get better if AJ just keeps running him out there every day and pretending that everything is ok. |
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Correa
Sept 14, 2018 13:33:36 GMT -6
Post by sempersmom on Sept 14, 2018 13:33:36 GMT -6
The question is if sitting out a series would make a difference. If he is hurting, and not just not soreness, then rest him...But Correa is the heart of the order type of guy...It is very important for the Astros come playoffs that Correa has been given a lot of ABs to get back into the swing of things (pun intended).... Has anyone ever watched Top Gun, after Goose died, they kept sending Maverick up there....This is one of those moments....and the Ice Man even questioned the Admiral to have Maverick as the primary standby pilot....And who won the day, saved his ass and others... Maverick... This also has shades of last year, when Astros were heading into the WS...and Springer was not doing well at all....up to that point I was one of the many here, and elsewhere, favor of taking him off the leadoff position....and Springer rose to the occasion, his talent won through...WS Champs and Springer was the WS! Therefore, keep sending Correa out there in the heart of the order. I agree with you my friend. |
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