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Post by unionstation82 on Apr 20, 2018 13:49:13 GMT -6
I’ll have faith in Stassi when it’s shown in more than just a couple homers. I wouldn’t mind one more year of McCannonballs.
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Apr 20, 2018 14:05:14 GMT -6
Regarding Jake and my Astros friends:  Sokath! His eyes uncovered! |
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Post by Saint on Apr 20, 2018 14:11:20 GMT -6
Despite the mostly flukey injuries, he has shown so far during his career that he appears to be able to hit. Every stint he has had at the major league level with at least 15 ABs he has been an above-average hitter. A decent catcher that can maintain around a .800 OPS and is controllable for 5 more years is pretty valuable. It's still too early to say he can do that, but it's a promising start.
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Post by astrosdoug on Apr 20, 2018 14:17:12 GMT -6
The way Stassi has made contact with the ball suggests to me that there is real bite to his bark. Even though he hasn't had a lot of major league plate appearances, he hits the ball harder and farther than 80% of the guys on the team. His strikeouts are kind of a problem, but he seems capable of limiting them to 25% or about 1 K per game started, which isn't so bad so long as he is productive in the other 3 ABs he might get on a particular evening. The Astros have a lot of good options for catcher next season: Maybe it makes sense to pick up the option on McCann's contract, or they can trade for someone like Realmuto, Grandal, or Flowers. Or maybe, one of the farm hands like Stubbs or Federowicz looks ready. I think OlPapa mentioned another promising catcher in the minor league system who hasn't seen time at Fresno yet.
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Post by paastrosfan on Apr 20, 2018 14:37:15 GMT -6
General Question...... Why do we have our AAA affiliate all the way over in CA? Seems we should have made a deal for a closer location to foster local interest in the big club. I forgot the details of the OKC move to Fresno, but I know it also sure hurts our chances of being in the vicinity to catch a game. The movement of minor league franchises especially on the AAA level are complicated. I received a lesson when the Phillies pulled out of Scranton to move to a new ball park in Allentown. That left Scranton without a team and a empty park, and they had to search for a team to fill it. The Yankees contract was over in Columbus and they wanted their team closer to NY. The movement usually depends on how long the parent club has a contract with the city. The SWB franchise is now mostly owned by the Yankees with minor owners, and they have a contract for about 50 years. The Mets a couple years ago had their franchise in Norfolk, the city officials made a deal with the O's when the Mets contract ran out and got stuck in the merry go round and ended up in Reno. Next season the Syracuse Chiefs contract with the Nationals is done and the Mets are going to slide into that city, leaving the Nats to go shopping. |
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Post by olpapa on Apr 20, 2018 15:02:22 GMT -6
No way to tell what kind of range JD has in LF by just looking at his stats, but so far he has played 63 innings in LF in 2017-2018 without committing an error. On another front....we were discussing whether or not Jake can be optioned to AAA without clearing waivers and without him giving his consent. Well I emailed Jason Martinez at MLBTR/Roster Resource and forwarded to him the info I have been able to round up on the issue. He is in agreement that Jake doesn’t have the 5 full seasons of ML service, so he could not reject being optioned to the minors. As to the info I found on Baseball Reference that seems to indicate that, since it has been over two years since Jake made his debut in MLB, he would have to be placed on waivers for 48 hours before he could be sent down..., he said he would do further research to see if that is the case. Haven’t heard back from him. What in the world are you talking about? Gattis was optioned in 2016 after he debuted in 2013 and we just optioned Buddy Boshers who also debuted in 2013. Every player has three option years, and Marisnick's still got two left. And anyways no one will claim Marisnick and his 1.9M guaranteed anyways if he was on waivers This, from Baseball Reference, in the world is what I’m talking about: “Option waivers are the rarest method to have a player switch teams. When a team wishes to send a player who has options to the minor leagues, there is a catch if the player's debut date is over two years ago. In those cases, the team needs to place his name on the waiver list and wait 48 hours for a claim. As with a player's first time on trade waivers, the team which claims the player can either work out a trade, or assume the player's contract for the option waiver price, or the submitting team may withdraw his name from the waivers. Since not irrevocable, placing a player on option waivers does not clear space for another player on their team's 25-man and 40-man rosters. Only when the player is claimed and sold or passes through and sent to minors does roster space appear. Teams are reluctant to make option claims since waiving team can pull the player back--this means claiming team not only doesn't get the player but has antagonized the waiving team. In the future, their roles will be reversed.” Notice the part that says, “When a team wishes to send a player who has options to the minors, there is a catch if the player’s debut is over two years ago. In those cases, the team needs to place his name on the waiver list and wait 48 hours for a claim.” That in the world is what I’m talking about. Marisnick has options. Marisnick’s debut date is over two years ago. You’re probably right though. What does Baseball Reference know about baseball, right? |
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Post by fanastro on Apr 20, 2018 16:26:11 GMT -6
Well the key point is "that teams are reluctant to make option claims" which basically means...it never happens.
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Post by fanastro on Apr 20, 2018 16:26:59 GMT -6
Quad City gave up 28 runs today. It was a road loss so only over 8 innings.
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Post by olpapa on Apr 20, 2018 18:38:39 GMT -6
Well the key point is "that teams are reluctant to make option claims" which basically means...it never happens. No. The key point is that, while Jake does have options left, he would, apparently, have to be placed on waivers for 48 hours and clear waivers before he could be sent down...., which is the issue that was being discussed before you entered the conversation. Nobody said he could not be optioned. Those of us who were discussing the issue had determined/agreed that Jake didn’t have the necessary 5 full years of ML service time required to give him the right to reject being optioned to the minors. The only question that remained was, “Would the team have to put Jake on waivers and have him clear waivers before he could be optioned to the minors?” Apparently they would. So it isn’t as simple as, “Jake has options left, so we can just send him to the minors.” |
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Post by abregmanfan on Apr 20, 2018 19:41:38 GMT -6
With the way Jake is playing would you put him on waivers? Who would claim him?
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Post by olpapa on Apr 20, 2018 20:26:00 GMT -6
With the way Jake is playing would you put him on waivers? Who would claim him? Yes. I absolutely would put Jake on waivers....and pray somebody is desperate enough to claim him. Who would claim him? Good question. |
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Post by olpapa on Apr 20, 2018 20:31:12 GMT -6
Jake is making $1.9 million this year. Singleton was due to make $2 million, but he got suspended. We could pay Jake to play minor league ball with the money we are saving by not having to pay Smokin’ John.
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Post by bearbryant on Apr 20, 2018 20:31:18 GMT -6
It's possible Jake's getting playing time it's his last chance to keep Kemp from taking his job. That's something I hadn't considered til just now
I say this realizing they hit from oppo sides of the plate
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Post by m240 on Apr 20, 2018 20:39:16 GMT -6
I wonder why Altuve was pulled to give Marisnick pt
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Post by Saint on Apr 20, 2018 20:48:42 GMT -6
I wonder why Altuve was pulled to give Marisnick pt This is the role Jake should be used for. |
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Post by m240 on Apr 20, 2018 21:17:37 GMT -6
something is wrong with Jake. He definitely has the yipes right now.
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Post by astrosdoug on Apr 20, 2018 22:53:35 GMT -6
Quad City gave up 28 runs today. It was a road loss so only over 8 innings. Would that be a record for the Astros farm system? I'm guessing there has been some game that was worse. |
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Post by astrosdoug on Apr 20, 2018 22:54:00 GMT -6
something is wrong with Jake. He definitely has the yipes right now. An idea came to mind today for Jake -- hypnosis therapy??? |
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Post by astrosdoug on Apr 20, 2018 22:58:21 GMT -6
I’ll have faith in Stassi when it’s shown in more than just a couple homers. I wouldn’t mind one more year of McCannonballs. Stassi did have 2 homers in only 31 big league plate appearances last season (PAs, not ABs). That's not a big sample size but that makes 4 HRs in 65 big league PAs from 2017 to early 2018. And I think he hit the first homer of spring training in Florida too. The boy has power. |
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Post by astrosdoug on Apr 20, 2018 23:11:55 GMT -6
Somehow Matt Den Dekker, *left fielder* for the Las Vegas 51s, comes in and pitches a scoreless 8th inning against Fresno.
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Post by unionstation82 on Apr 21, 2018 4:40:36 GMT -6
I wonder why Altuve was pulled to give Marisnick pt This is the role Jake should be used for. Even in that role, he struck out in his only AB. |
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Post by olpapa on Apr 21, 2018 6:53:58 GMT -6
From games played April 20:
AAA - Fresno 12 Las Vegas 4
Tony Kemp 2B- 2-6, BA .339
Kyle Tucker LF- 3-6, 1 2B, BA .258
Tyler White 3B- 1-5, BA .317
JD Davis 1B- 2-5, 1 HR(2), BA .429
Tim Federowitz C- 2-4, BA .423
Jack Mayfield SS- 2-4, 1 2B, 1 HR(4), BA .236
Alejandro Garcia RF- 3-4, BA .293
Kent Emanuel LHP- 5.2 IP, 4 H, 1 ER, 0 BB, 7 K, ERA 1.08
Jacob Dorris RHP- 1.1 IP, 3 H, 2 ER, 1 BB, 0 K, ERA 7.84
Buddy Boshers LHP- 1 IP, 1 H, 1 ER, 0 BB, 1 K, ERA 4.70
Matt Ramsey RHP- 1 IP, 0 H, 0 ER, 0 BB, 3 K, ERA 5.40
AA - Corpus Christi 11 Frisco 3
Myles Straw RF- 1-4, 1 BB, BA .356....also drove in a run with a sac fly and threw out a runner at 3B
Stephen Wrenn CF- 3-5, BA .255....stole 2 bases(6)
Yordan Alvarez DH- 2-5, 2 2B, BA .298....stole a base(4)
Taylor Jones 1B- 3-4, 1 2B, BA .359
Nick Tanielu 3B- 2-4, BA .333
Ryne Birk 2B- 5-5, BA .244
Lorenzo Quintana C- 1-4, 1 2B, BA .250
Ryan Hartman LHP- 6 IP, 7 H, 3 ER, 1 BB, 4 K, ERA 2.19
Kevin Hill RHP- 3 IP, 0 H, 0 ER, 1 BB, 3 K, ERA 3.68
A Advanced - Buies Creek 8 Carolina 2
Ronnie Dawson CF- 2-5, BA .250....stole 2 bases(8)
Josh Rojas 1B- 3-4, 1 2B, 1 HR(1), BA .310....stole a base(10)
Chas McCormack RF- 1-5, BA .286
Osvaldo Duarte LF- 2-5, 1 2B, BA .222
Luis Payano DH- 1-2, BA .206
Anibal Sierra SS- 1-4, 1 2B, BA .283
Brett Adcock LHP- 4 IP, 3 H, 1 ER, 2 BB, 4 K, ERA 2.19
Carlos Sierra RHP- 1 IP, 0 H, 0 ER, 1 BB, 0 K, ERA 4.00
Corbin Martin RHP- 4 IP, 0 H, 0 ER, 1 BB, 8 K, ERA 0.00....beginning to look like Luhnow drafted a gem here. So far this season in 3 games, 14 IP, 3 H, 0 ER, 6 BB, 21 K, WHIP 0.64. For his minor league career, 13 games, 46.2 IP, 23 H, 8 ER, 15 BB, 64 K, ERA 1.54, WHIP 0.81
A - Burlington 28 Quad Cities 7
Corey Julks LF- 2-5, 1 3B, BA .200....stole a base(3)
JJ Matijevic DH- 2-5, 1 3B, BA .265
Jonathan Arauz SS- 1-4, BA .294
Jake Adams 1B- 1-4, 1 HR(1), BA .206
Bryan De La Cruz RF- 1-4, 1 2B, BA .259
Marcos Almonte 3B- 1-5, 1 2B, BA .222
Michael Papierski C- 1-3, BA .158
Cody Bohanek 2B- 1-3, BA .115
Cesar Rosado RHP- 0.2 IP, 0 H, 4 ER, 3 BB, 0 K, ERA 4.82
Cole Watts LHP- 1.1 IP, 8 H, 2 ER, 1 BB, 4 K, ERA 4.91
Carlos Hiraldo LHP- 2 IP, 2 H, 0 ER, 2 BB, 4 K, ERA 0.00
Patrick Sandoval LHP- 1.2 IP, 10 H, 10 ER, 1 BB, 0 K, ERA 9.82
Carlos Sanabria RHP- 1.1 IP, 4 H, 5 ER, 1 BB, 4 K, ERA 9.95
Robert Corniel RHP- 1 IP, 0 H, 0 ER, 0 BB, 1 K, ERA 2.25
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2018 7:14:48 GMT -6
Nice to see Tucker with a three hit game since he has been struggling lately. Also, JD Davis keeps raking. He should be back up as soon as he can be called up again.
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Post by olpapa on Apr 21, 2018 7:31:44 GMT -6
Nice to see Tucker with a three hit game since he has been struggling lately. Also, JD Davis keeps raking. He should be back up as soon as he can be called up again. I agree on both points. Who do you think goes down when JD gets called up, Jake or Fisher? I think Davis will be eligible to be called back up on Monday. I found it interesting that Fisher was in CF yesterday. I don’t know if that means anything or not, but if he is back in CF today and/or tomorrow and Jake is on the bench, it could indicate that the FO is considering sending Jake down. I agree with bear. If they aren’t going to start Fisher and give him the playing time instead of Jake, it makes no sense to keep Derek in Houston. Why not send him to Fresno and let him play? |
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Post by unionstation82 on Apr 21, 2018 8:17:44 GMT -6
The one gift I’d like Jake to give Fisher is to get him to polish his routes. Other than that, I see no harm in having Fisher out there. I prefer him in LF, though.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2018 9:32:19 GMT -6
As much as I hope it is Jake who gets sent down. I think ultimately it will be Fisher. Hinch likes having a veteran outfielder who can pinch run & be a late defense substitution. If that is the case though, I don't want Jake to start pretty much ever. Play an outfield of Marwin/Gattis in left, Springer in center & Reddick in right.
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Post by unionstation82 on Apr 21, 2018 9:42:10 GMT -6
As much as I hope it is Jake who gets sent down. I think ultimately it will be Fisher. Hinch likes having a veteran outfielder who can pinch run & be a late defense substitution. If that is the case though, I don't want Jake to start pretty much ever. Play an outfield of Marwin/Gattis in left, Springer in center & Reddick in right. Jake’s getting paid almost $2 million this season. If Sipp is any indication, that plays a significant factor as to who stays or gets sent down no matter the production. I don’t even think Gomez hit this badly when he was on the team. |
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Post by olpapa on Apr 21, 2018 9:45:11 GMT -6
As much as I hope it is Jake who gets sent down. I think ultimately it will be Fisher. Hinch likes having a veteran outfielder who can pinch run & be a late defense substitution. If that is the case though, I don't want Jake to start pretty much ever. Play an outfield of Marwin/Gattis in left, Springer in center & Reddick in right. When Yuli returned to free up Marwin from having to play first base, that should have been the end of Jakes starts. |
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Post by Saint on Apr 21, 2018 10:32:03 GMT -6
This is the role Jake should be used for. Even in that role, he struck out in his only AB. I meant more the late inning defensive replacement. |
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Post by m240 on Apr 21, 2018 11:36:24 GMT -6
Hey look at that Emanuel with another quality start. era of 1.08. Looking pretty good so far.
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