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Post by olpapa on Sept 29, 2018 12:03:38 GMT -6
I’m thinking the Astros go with 11 pitchers. With all the talk I’ve seen at various sources concerning the possibility that they could be on a post-season roster, I am going to go with the assumption that James, Straw and Valdez are all eligible for the post-season rosters Here is my best guess:
Cole
Verlander
Keuchel
Morton (if healthy)
McCullers (if healthy)
McHugh
Smith
Pressley
Osuna
Sipp
James
McCann
Maldanado
Gattis
Gurriel
Altuve
Correa
Bregman
Springer
Reddick
Gonzalez
White
Marisnick
Kemp
Straw (filling the role that Fisher filled in 2017)
If Morton and/or McCullers is not healthy, I’m thinking they are replaced by Harris and Peacock, in that order.
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Post by thomasj13 on Sept 29, 2018 12:20:45 GMT -6
I’m thinking the Astros go with 11 pitchers. With all the talk I’ve seen at various sources concerning the possibility that they could be on a post-season roster, I am going to go with the assumption that James, Straw and Valdez are all eligible for the post-season rosters Here is my best guess: Cole Verlander Keuchel Morton (if healthy) McCullers (if healthy) McHugh Smith Pressley Osuna Sipp James McCann Maldanado Gattis Gurriel Altuve Correa Bregman Springer Reddick Gonzalez White Marisnick Kemp Straw (filling the role that Fisher filled in 2017) If Morton and/or McCullers is not healthy, I’m thinking they are replaced by Harris and Peacock, in that order. I think they go with 12 pitchers....and Kemp gets the nod over Straw, because already have Marisnick. |
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Post by olpapa on Sept 29, 2018 12:36:56 GMT -6
I think they go with 12 pitchers....and Kemp gets the nod over Straw, because already have Marisnick. You’re probably right,especially considering that Morton’s and McCullers’ health is iffy. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Sept 29, 2018 13:03:38 GMT -6
I think they go with 12 pitchers....and Kemp gets the nod over Straw, because already have Marisnick. You’re probably right,especially considering that Morton’s and McCullers’ health is iffy. |
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Post by olpapa on Sept 29, 2018 13:45:49 GMT -6
You’re probably right,especially considering that Morton’s and McCullers’ health is iffy. Of course, on the other hand, the Astros could always name a injury replacement if one of those guys goes down so I’m thinking maybe they don’t go with a 12 man pitching staff. |
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Post by abregmanfan on Sept 29, 2018 14:17:01 GMT -6
I think they will go with 11 pitchers if Carlos is not 100%.
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Post by olpapa on Sept 29, 2018 14:31:38 GMT -6
I think they will go with 11 pitchers if Carlos is not 100%. My nightmare is that Marwin ends up at SS in the playoffs. |
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Post by abregmanfan on Sept 29, 2018 14:59:37 GMT -6
I think they will go with 11 pitchers if Carlos is not 100%. My nightmare is that Marwin ends up at SS in the playoffs. Ugh. |
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Post by cajunstros on Sept 29, 2018 15:11:21 GMT -6
I think they will go with 11 pitchers if Carlos is not 100%. My nightmare is that Marwin ends up at SS in the playoffs. Bregman would most likely play SS in that scenario. They have plenty of 3B options Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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Post by Saint on Sept 29, 2018 15:17:29 GMT -6
I don't think they take all three of Kemp, Marisnick, and Straw.
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Post by olpapa on Sept 29, 2018 15:40:20 GMT -6
I don't think they take all three of Kemp, Marisnick, and Straw. True. I gotta tell you though..., Straw with his speed, base running skills and excellent outfield D would be a better option than Fisher in that role. |
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Post by Saint on Sept 29, 2018 15:44:57 GMT -6
I don't think they take all three of Kemp, Marisnick, and Straw. True. I gotta tell you though..., Straw with his speed, base running skills and excellent outfield D would be a better option than Fisher in that role. I don't disagree, but you have the same in Marisnick. |
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Post by olpapa on Sept 29, 2018 15:47:42 GMT -6
True. I gotta tell you though..., Straw with his speed, base running skills and excellent outfield D would be a better option than Fisher in that role. I don't disagree, but you have the same in Marisnick. True. I just hope Kemp can break lose in the playoffs. He has really been struggling. |
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Post by Saint on Sept 29, 2018 16:07:16 GMT -6
I don't disagree, but you have the same in Marisnick. True. I just hope Kemp can break lose in the playoffs. He has really been struggling. Fortunately for him we don't have anybody else hitting well enough to supplant him, and Hinch seems to appreciate as plate discipline as a pinch hitter. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2018 17:38:28 GMT -6
How do you NOT have Rondon on that list. You know Hinch will have him on there 100% (over James)
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Post by olpapa on Sept 30, 2018 16:41:57 GMT -6
This from Astros.com:
“The Astros will carry 14 position players and 11 pitchers (four starters, seven relievers) against the Indians.”
Also:
“The Astros won't unveil their ALDS roster until Friday morning, but some decisions have already been made. Hinch said pitchers Dean Deetz and Reymin Guduan and outfielder Kyle Tucker were told they could go home following Sunday's game. Meanwhile, pitchers Framber Valdez and Cionel Perez will be sent to the team's Spring Training facility in West Palm Beach, Fla., to work out and stay fresh in case there's an injury”
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“In addition to determining which relief pitchers to carry, Hinch said the club is still weighing the idea of carrying a third catcher (Max Stassi along with Martin Maldonado and Brian McCann) or speedy pinch-runner Myles Straw.
"It's a tough one," Hinch said. "Whatever we do, the other situation's going to come up, right? We want the extra runner. You want the extra catcher. There are two different strategies -- one being, would you hit or run for your catcher earlier in the game if you have three? Martin's defense stands out as something that I always want to keep in the game if he's the starting catcher.
"On the flipside of it, a guy like Myles Straw is an upgrade as a pinch-runner to virtually everybody on the field. I wouldn't run for everybody on the field, but there's not a situation where he's not faster than the guy who's on base. … If you could tell me that extra step or that extra two or three steps would come into play, it'd be an easier decision. But we'll debate that back and forth the next couple of days."
I’ve gotta believe, if it comes down to a choice between Stassi or Straw, I would take Straw. Gattis is available if an emergency third catcher is needed.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2018 16:48:58 GMT -6
This from Astros.com: “The Astros will carry 14 position players and 11 pitchers (four starters, seven relievers) against the Indians.” Also: “The Astros won't unveil their ALDS roster until Friday morning, but some decisions have already been made. Hinch said pitchers Dean Deetz and Reymin Guduan and outfielder Kyle Tucker were told they could go home following Sunday's game. Meanwhile, pitchers Framber Valdez and Cionel Perez will be sent to the team's Spring Training facility in West Palm Beach, Fla., to work out and stay fresh in case there's an injury” and: “In addition to determining which relief pitchers to carry, Hinch said the club is still weighing the idea of carrying a third catcher (Max Stassi along with Martin Maldonado and Brian McCann) or speedy pinch-runner Myles Straw. "It's a tough one," Hinch said. "Whatever we do, the other situation's going to come up, right? We want the extra runner. You want the extra catcher. There are two different strategies -- one being, would you hit or run for your catcher earlier in the game if you have three? Martin's defense stands out as something that I always want to keep in the game if he's the starting catcher. "On the flipside of it, a guy like Myles Straw is an upgrade as a pinch-runner to virtually everybody on the field. I wouldn't run for everybody on the field, but there's not a situation where he's not faster than the guy who's on base. … If you could tell me that extra step or that extra two or three steps would come into play, it'd be an easier decision. But we'll debate that back and forth the next couple of days." Okay then
Cole
Verlander
Keuchel
Morton
McCullers
McHugh
Rondon
Pressley
Osuna
Sipp
James
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2018 16:53:56 GMT -6
This from Astros.com: "On the flipside of it, a guy like Myles Straw is an upgrade as a pinch-runner to virtually everybody on the field. I wouldn't run for everybody on the field, but there's not a situation where he's not faster than the guy who's on base. … If you could tell me that extra step or that extra two or three steps would come into play, it'd be an easier decision. But we'll debate that back and forth the next couple of days." I’ve gotta believe, if it comes down to a choice between Stassi or Straw, I would take Straw. Gattis is available if an emergency third catcher is needed. I like Straw as well, however the danger of that would be taking out a bat for the pinch runner, and then the game prolonging when you don't get that big hit to score him.
If it's for Gattis or McCann then 100%.
And with Maldonado I may be inclined to keep him behind the plate for the remainder of the game instead of using Stassi anyhow. You can easily lose a game on poor pitch selection or framing (more so than speed)
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Post by olpapa on Sept 30, 2018 16:56:08 GMT -6
I’m thinking the Astros go with 11 pitchers. With all the talk I’ve seen at various sources concerning the possibility that they could be on a post-season roster, I am going to go with the assumption that James, Straw and Valdez are all eligible for the post-season rosters Here is my best guess: Cole Verlander Keuchel Morton (if healthy) McCullers (if healthy) McHugh Smith Pressley Osuna Sipp James McCann Maldanado Gattis Gurriel Altuve Correa Bregman Springer Reddick Gonzalez White Marisnick Kemp Straw (filling the role that Fisher filled in 2017) If Morton and/or McCullers is not healthy, I’m thinking they are replaced by Harris and Peacock, in that order. I think they go with 12 pitchers....and Kemp gets the nod over Straw, because already have Marisnick. Now that the Astros have announced that they are going with 11 pitchers in the ALDS and are apparently considering carrying either a third catcher, Stassi, or Straw, I am going to stick with my original 25. That said, AJ will probably carry Rondon instead of James because he won’t want to hurt Rondon’s feelings. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2018 17:04:29 GMT -6
I think they go with 12 pitchers....and Kemp gets the nod over Straw, because already have Marisnick. Now that the Astros have announced that they are going with 11 pitchers in the ALDS and are apparently considering carrying either a third catcher, Stassi, or Straw, I am going to stick with my original 25. That said, AJ will probably carry Rondon instead of James because he won’t want to hurt Rondon’s feelings. Here's the interesting part:
Rondon has 15 games post season experience and won a World Series ring with the Cubs.
Smith has 7 games post season experience and has a ZERO ERA, allowing only 1 hit in 5 innings pitched. Nothing past the ALDS however.
Smith also signed a 2 year deal as opposed to 1 year with Rondon. Houston can afford to be choosy with Smith knowing he's coming back. If Houston wants Rondon to be effective at all in the later rounds of the post season and/or come back next season then they may be inclined to keep him happy for the ALDS.
James may very well be the odd man out because he is so new to the club, unproven in the playoffs, and won't cause a rift later on. Plus, if we make it to the ALCS then they can always go back to him then.
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Post by olpapa on Sept 30, 2018 17:05:19 GMT -6
This from Astros.com: "On the flipside of it, a guy like Myles Straw is an upgrade as a pinch-runner to virtually everybody on the field. I wouldn't run for everybody on the field, but there's not a situation where he's not faster than the guy who's on base. … If you could tell me that extra step or that extra two or three steps would come into play, it'd be an easier decision. But we'll debate that back and forth the next couple of days." I’ve gotta believe, if it comes down to a choice between Stassi or Straw, I would take Straw. Gattis is available if an emergency third catcher is needed. I like Straw as well, however the danger of that would be taking out a bat for the pinch runner, and then the game prolonging when you don't get that big hit to score him.
If it's for Gattis or McCann then 100%.
And with Maldonado I may be inclined to keep him behind the plate for the remainder of the game instead of using Stassi anyhow. You can easily lose a game on poor pitch selection or framing (more so than speed)
What they would be doing with Straw is having him fill the same role that Fisher filled in the postseason last year. The good thing in that would be that in Straw you get a much better outfielder, should you want to leave him in the game after he pinch runs, and he is a much better contact hitter than Fisher. Doesn’t strike out nearly as much as Fisher. So.., Straw’s value to the team would not be limited to just serving as a pinch runner. I think carrying Stassi would be a waste of a roster spot. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Sept 30, 2018 17:05:58 GMT -6
If I have to take two from a threesome of Jake, Straw, and Kemp, I leave Kemp at home. He's a below-average outfielder and he hasn't hit his weight in the last month.
I don't think they waste a roster spot on Stassi.
Olpapa and I think basically alike on the roster. He probably would keep Kemp over Straw but I wouldn't. Straw's speed can get us crucial run as a pinch runner. He is much faster than Kemp.
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Post by unionstation82 on Sept 30, 2018 17:23:22 GMT -6
True. I gotta tell you though..., Straw with his speed, base running skills and excellent outfield D would be a better option than Fisher in that role. I don't disagree, but you have the same in Marisnick. Marisnick has more power, but that’s not everything. Kemp or Straw could get you more chance of a base hit. I don’t see Straw making it, though. |
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Post by olpapa on Sept 30, 2018 17:56:00 GMT -6
Now that the Astros have announced that they are going with 11 pitchers in the ALDS and are apparently considering carrying either a third catcher, Stassi, or Straw, I am going to stick with my original 25. That said, AJ will probably carry Rondon instead of James because he won’t want to hurt Rondon’s feelings.
Smith also signed a 2 year deal as opposed to 1 year with Rondon. Houston can afford to be choosy with Smith knowing he's coming back. If Houston wants Rondon to be effective at all in the later rounds of the post season and/or come back next season then they may be inclined to keep him happy for the ALDS.
According to Cots, Rondon is signed through 2019. |
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Post by olpapa on Sept 30, 2018 18:39:59 GMT -6
You’re probably right,especially considering that Morton’s and McCullers’ health is iffy. |
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Post by m240 on Sept 30, 2018 18:43:35 GMT -6
This from Astros.com: “The Astros will carry 14 position players and 11 pitchers (four starters, seven relievers) against the Indians.” Also: “The Astros won't unveil their ALDS roster until Friday morning, but some decisions have already been made. Hinch said pitchers Dean Deetz and Reymin Guduan and outfielder Kyle Tucker were told they could go home following Sunday's game. Meanwhile, pitchers Framber Valdez and Cionel Perez will be sent to the team's Spring Training facility in West Palm Beach, Fla., to work out and stay fresh in case there's an injury” and: “In addition to determining which relief pitchers to carry, Hinch said the club is still weighing the idea of carrying a third catcher (Max Stassi along with Martin Maldonado and Brian McCann) or speedy pinch-runner Myles Straw. "It's a tough one," Hinch said. "Whatever we do, the other situation's going to come up, right? We want the extra runner. You want the extra catcher. There are two different strategies -- one being, would you hit or run for your catcher earlier in the game if you have three? Martin's defense stands out as something that I always want to keep in the game if he's the starting catcher. "On the flipside of it, a guy like Myles Straw is an upgrade as a pinch-runner to virtually everybody on the field. I wouldn't run for everybody on the field, but there's not a situation where he's not faster than the guy who's on base. … If you could tell me that extra step or that extra two or three steps would come into play, it'd be an easier decision. But we'll debate that back and forth the next couple of days." I’ve gotta believe, if it comes down to a choice between Stassi or Straw, I would take Straw. Gattis is available if an emergency third catcher is needed. I agree and think about all that power you get in Straw, a home run every 10 at bats so far.  |
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Post by olpapa on Sept 30, 2018 18:47:42 GMT -6
This from Astros.com: “The Astros will carry 14 position players and 11 pitchers (four starters, seven relievers) against the Indians.” Also: “The Astros won't unveil their ALDS roster until Friday morning, but some decisions have already been made. Hinch said pitchers Dean Deetz and Reymin Guduan and outfielder Kyle Tucker were told they could go home following Sunday's game. Meanwhile, pitchers Framber Valdez and Cionel Perez will be sent to the team's Spring Training facility in West Palm Beach, Fla., to work out and stay fresh in case there's an injury” and: “In addition to determining which relief pitchers to carry, Hinch said the club is still weighing the idea of carrying a third catcher (Max Stassi along with Martin Maldonado and Brian McCann) or speedy pinch-runner Myles Straw. "It's a tough one," Hinch said. "Whatever we do, the other situation's going to come up, right? We want the extra runner. You want the extra catcher. There are two different strategies -- one being, would you hit or run for your catcher earlier in the game if you have three? Martin's defense stands out as something that I always want to keep in the game if he's the starting catcher. "On the flipside of it, a guy like Myles Straw is an upgrade as a pinch-runner to virtually everybody on the field. I wouldn't run for everybody on the field, but there's not a situation where he's not faster than the guy who's on base. … If you could tell me that extra step or that extra two or three steps would come into play, it'd be an easier decision. But we'll debate that back and forth the next couple of days." I’ve gotta believe, if it comes down to a choice between Stassi or Straw, I would take Straw. Gattis is available if an emergency third catcher is needed. I agree and think about all that power you get in Straw, a home run every 10 at bats so far. Just can’t believe they will carry Stassi. Stassi AND Gattis AND Maldanado AND McCann? Surely they won’t make that choice. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2018 19:41:42 GMT -6
Smith also signed a 2 year deal as opposed to 1 year with Rondon. Houston can afford to be choosy with Smith knowing he's coming back. If Houston wants Rondon to be effective at all in the later rounds of the post season and/or come back next season then they may be inclined to keep him happy for the ALDS.
According to Cots, Rondon is signed through 2019. Apparently I read an article wrong that he signed only a 1 year |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Sept 30, 2018 19:56:14 GMT -6
AJ Hinch makes the ALDS roster.
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Post by olpapa on Oct 1, 2018 6:29:00 GMT -6
AJ Hinch makes the ALDS roster. .... lucky for Jake, huh? |
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