Playoffs

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Oct 10, 2018 11:07:18 GMT -6 blcoach8 said:

Oct 10, 2018 10:47:53 GMT -6 Saint said:

I don't see how you afford Goldy and keep our core together. Somebody would likely have to go.

bye bye Carlos.

Wow...talk about throw the dice.

Two years ago, there was much talk about him being a once in a generation player. Now he has had an injury plagued year.

So we trade a 24 y.o star for a 31 y.o star (if you believe Marshall he might be in decline).

Then add the fact, CC may bounce back even stronger after this injury next year?

I'd hate to be the GM who makes that call at either end.

[Saint]

Giving up on a top young shortstop for an older 1B because he had a bad half season is a horrible idea...

[blcoach8]

Oct 8, 2018 15:28:35 GMT -6 Saint said:

Hey, guys...remember the rules about the politics and such on the board. Let's keep it in check.

When were you appointed moderator?

[blcoach8]

Oct 10, 2018 11:17:39 GMT -6 Saint said:

Giving up on a top young shortstop for an older 1B because he had a bad half season is a horrible idea...

So  you  had rather invest millions in a SS who can't seem to stay healthy and who probably wants to be in NY instead of trading for a proven star like Goldschmidt who grew up in Houston?

[Saint]

Getting production at 1B is easier than production at SS. Correa may not be our long term future, but we shouldn't jump to get rid of him for a player on the wrong side of 30.

And I like Goldy. But other options should be explored, imo.

[ɮօʀȶǟʐ]

The entire world knows that the Houston Astros are not going to trade Carlos Correa for Goldy. That post was just another torch thrown into the trash pile by Corch

[Saint]

But there will be some that agree.

[unionstation82]

Choosing Goldschmidt by casting off Correa is lunacy.

[blcoach8]

Oct 10, 2018 11:29:59 GMT -6 Saint said:

Getting production at 1B is easier than production at SS. Correa may not be our long term future, but we shouldn't jump to get rid of him for a player on the wrong side of 30.

And I like Goldy. But other options should be explored, imo.

What is wrong with trading Correa, moving Bregman to SS, Gurriel to 3B and putting Goldschmidt at 1B?  We have White to be the primary DH.  I would not have thought about dealing Correa before this season. But, Correa continuing to have health issues and having a bad offensive season, I'd consider dealing him if we knew we had Goldschmidt's bat in return.

[blcoach8]

Oct 10, 2018 12:23:05 GMT -6 unionstation82 said:

Choosing Goldschmidt by casting off Correa is lunacy.

Why?? Carlos can't stay on the field and we will have to overpay to keep him when the time comes.  We have a very capable SS in Bregman.  The main thing I look at is I can't get out of my mind seeing Correa walk and sign with the Yankees at some point and we end up getting nothing for him.

[marshall]

Oct 10, 2018 11:14:51 GMT -6 @txheat10k said:

Oct 10, 2018 11:07:18 GMT -6 blcoach8 said:

bye bye Carlos.

Wow...talk about throw the dice.

Two years ago, there was much talk about him being a once in a generation player. Now he has had an injury plagued year.

So we trade a 24 y.o star for a 31 y.o star (if you believe Marshall he might be in decline).

Then add the fact, CC may bounce back even stronger after this injury next year?

I'd hate to be the GM who makes that call at either end.

Goldie is not a pitcher so you have 2 or 3 extra seasons of typical production before the typical decline sets in.

[bearbryant]

Oct 10, 2018 13:09:27 GMT -6 blcoach8 said:

Oct 10, 2018 11:29:59 GMT -6 Saint said:

Getting production at 1B is easier than production at SS. Correa may not be our long term future, but we shouldn't jump to get rid of him for a player on the wrong side of 30.

And I like Goldy. But other options should be explored, imo.

What is wrong with trading Correa, moving Bregman to SS, Gurriel to 3B and putting Goldschmidt at 1B?  We have White to be the primary DH.  I would not have thought about dealing Correa before this season. But, Correa continuing to have health issues and having a bad offensive season, I'd consider dealing him if we knew we had Goldschmidt's bat in return.

Gurriel playing third base every day? Are you serious?

[bearbryant]

Oct 10, 2018 12:23:05 GMT -6 unionstation82 said:

Choosing Goldschmidt by casting off Correa is lunacy.

agreed

[blcoach8]

Oct 10, 2018 17:55:38 GMT -6 bearbryant said:

Oct 10, 2018 13:09:27 GMT -6 blcoach8 said:

What is wrong with trading Correa, moving Bregman to SS, Gurriel to 3B and putting Goldschmidt at 1B?  We have White to be the primary DH.  I would not have thought about dealing Correa before this season. But, Correa continuing to have health issues and having a bad offensive season, I'd consider dealing him if we knew we had Goldschmidt's bat in return.

Gurriel playing third base every day? Are you serious?

Had you rather hand out millions to a shortstop who can't stay off the DL and then not produce when he comes back?  I am dead serious about playing Gurriel at third and moving Bregman to SS. 

[Saint]

Oct 10, 2018 19:09:13 GMT -6 blcoach8 said:

Oct 10, 2018 17:55:38 GMT -6 bearbryant said:

Gurriel playing third base every day? Are you serious?

Had you rather hand out millions to a shortstop who can't stay off the DL and then not produce when he comes back?  I am dead serious about playing Gurriel at third and moving Bregman to SS. 

So ignore 3.5 years of high level success and then give up after half a season?

[thomasj13]

Oct 10, 2018 19:24:58 GMT -6 Saint said:

Oct 10, 2018 19:09:13 GMT -6 blcoach8 said:

Had you rather hand out millions to a shortstop who can't stay off the DL and then not produce when he comes back?  I am dead serious about playing Gurriel at third and moving Bregman to SS. 

So ignore 3.5 years of high level success and then give up after half a season?

Classic what have you done for me lately....I am willing to bet praises from Correa bashers will happen soon....and amnesia for what bad they said about him.

[unionstation82]

Have we forgotten that the man homered in his last at-bat?

[ɮօʀȶǟʐ]

Just saw an article posted to Facebook where Correa is saying his back is still hurting him and making him unable to swing hard, and he's hesitating to swing because if he misses, it hurts. Said some mornings it even affects how he walks.

[thomasj13]

Oct 10, 2018 20:50:35 GMT -6 ɮօʀȶǟʐ said:

Just saw an article posted to Facebook where Correa is saying his back is still hurting him and making him unable to swing hard, and he's hesitating to swing because if he misses, it hurts. Said some mornings it even affects how he walks.

Despite Correa still hurting, he looks great at SS...Even hurting, I trust him way over any bench player, and not just defensively.

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Oct 10, 2018 20:50:35 GMT -6 ɮօʀȶǟʐ said:

Just saw an article posted to Facebook where Correa is saying his back is still hurting him and making him unable to swing hard, and he's hesitating to swing because if he misses, it hurts. Said some mornings it even affects how he walks.

Which begs the question is he risking a worse or career threatening injury by playing.  I understand the implications of HIPPA, but I sure wish the organization would level with us just what is going on here.

From my experience it sounds like a sciatic nerve issue.  In any case, when the body is weakened in one area, the process of the body compensating can create damage elsewhere.

[ɮօʀȶǟʐ]

HIPAA, btw.


EDIT: Funny story. I was tasked with reviewing P&P at my hospital. The department that was responsible for HIPAA compliance had all their Policies misspelled with "HIPPA".

[blcoach8]

Oct 10, 2018 19:57:22 GMT -6 thomasj13 said:

Oct 10, 2018 19:24:58 GMT -6 Saint said:

So ignore 3.5 years of high level success and then give up after half a season?

Classic what have you done for me lately....I am willing to bet praises from Correa bashers will happen soon....and amnesia for what bad they said about him.

I think he wants to be a Yankee and that is one reason why I don't  care if we deal him.  I think Goldschmidt would welcome a move to Houston.

I hope Correa returns to what he was last year,but, one home run against Cleveland doesn't mean that he will.  He spent a lot of time on the DL last year and more this year. His bat was basically non-existent.  We won 103 games with very little production from Carlos.

[blcoach8]

Oct 10, 2018 21:02:05 GMT -6 @txheat10k said:

Oct 10, 2018 20:50:35 GMT -6 ɮօʀȶǟʐ said:

Just saw an article posted to Facebook where Correa is saying his back is still hurting him and making him unable to swing hard, and he's hesitating to swing because if he misses, it hurts. Said some mornings it even affects how he walks.

Which begs the question is he risking a worse or career threatening injury by playing.  I understand the implications of HIPPA, but I sure wish the organization would level with us just what is going on here.

From my experience it sounds like a sciatic nerve issue.  In any case, when the body is weakened in one area, the process of the body compensating can create damage elsewhere.

The idea of a sciatic nerve issue has crossed my mind more than once. I have a friend who has dealt with an issue like that for over 20 years.

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Oct 10, 2018 21:03:53 GMT -6 ɮօʀȶǟʐ said:

HIPAA, btw.


EDIT: Funny story. I was tasked with reviewing P&P at my hospital. The department that was responsible for HIPAA compliance had all their Policies misspelled with "HIPPA".

I swear it wasn't me.......

[ɮօʀȶǟʐ]

Oct 10, 2018 20:50:35 GMT -6 ɮօʀȶǟʐ said:

Just saw an article posted to Facebook where Correa is saying his back is still hurting him and making him unable to swing hard, and he's hesitating to swing because if he misses, it hurts. Said some mornings it even affects how he walks.

abc13.com/4458086/?sf199785385=1

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Oct 11, 2018 0:54:23 GMT -6 ɮօʀȶǟʐ said:

Oct 10, 2018 20:50:35 GMT -6 ɮօʀȶǟʐ said:

Just saw an article posted to Facebook where Correa is saying his back is still hurting him and making him unable to swing hard, and he's hesitating to swing because if he misses, it hurts. Said some mornings it even affects how he walks.

abc13.com/4458086/?sf199785385=1

I may be in the minority here, but I say leave him off the ALCS, and WS rosters, and give him a 2 week head start recovery toward ST.

[ɮօʀȶǟʐ]

If he's truly hurting as badly as he claims (and as a back injury victim, I can commiserate), he really does need to stop playing. He's probably just exacerbating the problem every time he swings.

[blcoach8]

Oct 10, 2018 20:24:19 GMT -6 unionstation82 said:

Have we forgotten that the man homered in his last at-bat?

I saw that,but, it still doesn't get rid of all the horrible at bats he piled up before hitting it once the game was no longer in doubt. A few good at bats over two months doesn't mean you deserve a  hugh, long-term contract.

[blcoach8]

Oct 11, 2018 6:28:37 GMT -6 @txheat10k said:

Oct 11, 2018 0:54:23 GMT -6 ɮօʀȶǟʐ said:

abc13.com/4458086/?sf199785385=1

I may be in the minority here, but I say leave him off the ALCS, and WS rosters, and give him a 2 week head start recovery toward ST.

That would probably be best for him in the long run,but, AJ is going to keep him in the lineup every day no matter how horrible he is at the plate. I am happy for the home run he hit and hope it means he's on the road back, but, one at bat doesn't prove a lot.

[marshall]

Two years and two different injuries for Carlos. The first does not concern me. The second one does.

But there is too much up side to make a hasty decision this year and maybe even next. If he can manage the pain, he's gold. If not, we haven't invested too much yet. Replacements are all costly.

However; if the Astros are really concerned and want to go all out for next year, MACHADO is a FA after the Series.