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Post by nathangarza29 on Oct 26, 2018 14:00:15 GMT -6
Its Realmuto hands down. But both deals could get done.
I mentioned on another site.
Yuli Gurriel and a pitching prospect out of the top 20 to the Blue Jay's for Marcus Stroman....
It would put the brothers togather.
And it would give Strom a good little project guy.
I wouldnt mind a shot at Sonny Gray... set what Strom can do there.
I wouldnt be surprised either way
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Oct 26, 2018 14:19:18 GMT -6
Yuli Gurriel, the new Tanner Bushue.
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Post by sempersmom on Oct 26, 2018 14:32:19 GMT -6
Why do some people think the Gurriel brothers want to be on the same team? I know I wouldn't want that.
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Post by blcoach8 on Oct 26, 2018 15:20:15 GMT -6
Its Realmuto hands down. But both deals could get done. I mentioned on another site. Yuli Gurriel and a pitching prospect out of the top 20 to the Blue Jay's for Marcus Stroman.... It would put the brothers togather. And it would give Strom a good little project guy. I wouldnt mind a shot at Sonny Gray... set what Strom can do there. I wouldnt be surprised either way How many hours a day do you spend dreaming up this bullshit?? Why the hell would we trade Yuli for Stroman? Sonny Gray!!!!  |
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Post by olpapa on Oct 26, 2018 15:42:52 GMT -6
Guys, let’s break it down into simpler terms. Would you rather Luhnow trade for Goldschmidt or Realmuto? Realmuto. Then sign Goldschmidt as a FA next offseason. Realmuto and Stubbs would be a good duo at catcher. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Oct 26, 2018 19:28:08 GMT -6
I agree with the consensus. Therefore, we all reject Nathan’s proposal to get a declining ace and one year of control of a non-hometown discount 1B?
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Post by talshill on Oct 26, 2018 22:11:00 GMT -6
I say we trade Devenski straight-up for Judge. Then we sign McCann to a 1-year deal and do a straight-up swap for Realmuto. Then trade Reed to the DBacks for Goldschmidt. Sign Cruz as DH. Finally, we give Rondon to the Mets for deGrom. What do you think boys??? Is this GM stuff easy, or what?
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Post by talshill on Oct 26, 2018 22:11:50 GMT -6
Oh, and each of those teams will have to pay half their contracts for the next 7 years. Egad, I'm a genius.
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Post by unionstation82 on Oct 26, 2018 22:39:45 GMT -6
Oh, and each of those teams will have to pay half their contracts for the next 7 years. Egad, I'm a genius. Devenski for Judge seems fair. Rondón for deGrom favors the Mets too much. You better press reset on that one. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Oct 26, 2018 22:56:48 GMT -6
I say we trade Devenski straight-up for Judge. Then we sign McCann to a 1-year deal and do a straight-up swap for Realmuto. Then trade Reed to the DBacks for Goldschmidt. Sign Cruz as DH. Finally, we give Rondon to the Mets for deGrom. What do you think boys??? Is this GM stuff easy, or what? If they get Devenski, they have to throw in Stanton before I'd do it....If they are willing to add Chapman, I'll give them AJ Reed, too. Judge, Stanton, and Chapman for Devenski and Reed seems more than fair to me. |
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Post by m240 on Oct 29, 2018 7:01:40 GMT -6
I say we trade Devenski straight-up for Judge. Then we sign McCann to a 1-year deal and do a straight-up swap for Realmuto. Then trade Reed to the DBacks for Goldschmidt. Sign Cruz as DH. Finally, we give Rondon to the Mets for deGrom. What do you think boys??? Is this GM stuff easy, or what? If they get Devenski, they have to throw in Stanton before I'd do it....If they are willing to add Chapman, I'll give them AJ Reed, too. Judge, Stanton, and Chapman for Devenski and Reed seems more than fair to me. I do not think that I would do that deal. It would hamstring our budget flexibility. Devenski for Judge was a better impossible deal. |
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Post by Saint on Oct 30, 2018 15:33:35 GMT -6
The Rockies got decent production from Carlos Gonzalez for only $5 million last year. Obviously he is on the decline, but he still hit righties very well last year. If you picked up a good hitting catcher (like Ramos) who is excellent against lefties, what do you think of this:
Gonzalez DHs against righties while Ramos catches (this would be the bulk of the starts).
Ramos DHs against lefties, and Stassi/Stubbs catches with Gonzalez on the bench for righty relievers.
You're upgrading both positions while maximizing their value, and Gonzalez would likely be a steal at $5 million or less. This also gives Ramos plenty of rest from catching but we still get to use his bat. It also works as a left field back-up plan if Tucker doesn't pan out two months into the season.
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Post by blcoach8 on Oct 30, 2018 16:38:30 GMT -6
Buying your players from Goodwill is not a good idea. Just because they come cheap doesn't mean they are worth having. We could get Jose Bautista for practically nothing, but, it would be stupid to sign him at any price. You get what you pay for and it's usually best to stick with what you know........If I want a Gonzalez, I won't it to be Marwin.
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Post by nathangarza29 on Oct 30, 2018 22:14:17 GMT -6
Why not go get Gerarado Parra . Trade for Realmuto And sign Daniel Murphy?  That way all the focus could be on Pitchers from there on out? Keuchal Priced his way out of Houston. (New York) MARWIN has done the same. (Red Sox) Morton is iffy. Everyone else walks. So there is money to be spent. Also have to look at Gerrit Cole being signed long term wright now. And maybe talking to Verlander for a extension. Springer aswell |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2018 3:13:37 GMT -6
So there is money to be spent. Also have to look at Gerrit Cole being signed long term wright now. And maybe talking to Verlander for a extension. Springer aswell VooDoo.... Any of your Magic 8 Ball Combinations have Goldschmidt coming to Houston? |
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Post by Saint on Oct 31, 2018 7:25:03 GMT -6
Buying your players from Goodwill is not a good idea. Just because they come cheap doesn't mean they are worth having. We could get Jose Bautista for practically nothing, but, it would be stupid to sign him at any price. You get what you pay for and it's usually best to stick with what you know........If I want a Gonzalez, I won't it to be Marwin. Not everybody you sign is going to be an all-star. If you spent a good deal of money on a new catcher, you're going to have to look at value from other areas. Picking a guy that destroyed righties and working him into a DH tandem isn't about "Goodwill shopping". You need roleplayers. Carlos against righties: .284 .344 .485 Marwin against righties: .235 .327 .395 |
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Post by unionstation82 on Oct 31, 2018 9:04:56 GMT -6
Buying your players from Goodwill is not a good idea. Just because they come cheap doesn't mean they are worth having. We could get Jose Bautista for practically nothing, but, it would be stupid to sign him at any price. You get what you pay for and it's usually best to stick with what you know........If I want a Gonzalez, I won't it to be Marwin. Not everybody you sign is going to be an all-star. If you spent a good deal of money on a new catcher, you're going to have to look at value from other areas. Picking a guy that destroyed righties and working him into a DH tandem isn't about "Goodwill shopping". You need roleplayers. Carlos against righties: .284 .344 .485 Marwin against righties: .235 .327 .395 Whether or not we’d like CarGo here, I’d be shocked if Luhnow weren’t kicking those tires. |
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Post by Saint on Oct 31, 2018 9:47:22 GMT -6
Not everybody you sign is going to be an all-star. If you spent a good deal of money on a new catcher, you're going to have to look at value from other areas. Picking a guy that destroyed righties and working him into a DH tandem isn't about "Goodwill shopping". You need roleplayers. Carlos against righties: .284 .344 .485 Marwin against righties: .235 .327 .395 Whether or not we’d like CarGo here, I’d be shocked if Luhnow weren’t kicking those tires. I'm all about legitimate upgrades in areas where we really need them (don't half-ass it), but you're going to have to get a little creative in some areas because we don't have the payroll to do whatever we want. Regardless of what we do with Marwin, DH and LF are areas we need a ton more production from. CarGo has the potential to do that if used properly. That being said, there are plenty of other options out there. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Oct 31, 2018 11:10:45 GMT -6
Buying your players from Goodwill is not a good idea. Just because they come cheap doesn't mean they are worth having. We could get Jose Bautista for practically nothing, but, it would be stupid to sign him at any price. You get what you pay for and it's usually best to stick with what you know........If I want a Gonzalez, I won't it to be Marwin. Not everybody you sign is going to be an all-star. If you spent a good deal of money on a new catcher, you're going to have to look at value from other areas. Picking a guy that destroyed righties and working him into a DH tandem isn't about "Goodwill shopping". You need roleplayers. Carlos against righties: .284 .344 .485 Marwin against righties: .235 .327 .395 I totally agree that role players are needed. We just saw how role players helped the Red Sox win the WS. Marwin has been a key role player for us due to being a switch-hitter who can play numerous defensive positions well. Carlos Gonzalez is not in his league as a role player. Carlos can't do half the things for us that Marwin can do. |
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Post by Saint on Oct 31, 2018 11:27:41 GMT -6
Not everybody you sign is going to be an all-star. If you spent a good deal of money on a new catcher, you're going to have to look at value from other areas. Picking a guy that destroyed righties and working him into a DH tandem isn't about "Goodwill shopping". You need roleplayers. Carlos against righties: .284 .344 .485 Marwin against righties: .235 .327 .395 I totally agree that role players are needed. We just saw how role players helped the Red Sox win the WS. Marwin has been a key role player for us due to being a switch-hitter who can play numerous defensive positions well. Carlos Gonzalez is not in his league as a role player. Carlos can't do half the things for us that Marwin can do. He can hit righthanders exceedingly better and for much much cheaper. But that's not the point. Marwin and Carlos are separate issues. Nobody is saying it's one or the other..... |
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Post by nathangarza29 on Oct 31, 2018 12:43:43 GMT -6
Gerardo Parra
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Post by unionstation82 on Oct 31, 2018 13:24:08 GMT -6
All in all, I wouldn’t mind a platoon of White and CarGo at DH. I just don’t think it’s financially a great idea to have a $5 million part-timer.
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Oct 31, 2018 13:50:07 GMT -6
Has everyone moved on from Cutch? He's a FA this year, too.
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Post by Saint on Oct 31, 2018 13:57:37 GMT -6
All in all, I wouldn’t mind a platoon of White and CarGo at DH. I just don’t think it’s financially a great idea to have a $5 million part-timer. Using him against righthanders would be the bulk of the starts though. |
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Post by Saint on Oct 31, 2018 13:58:11 GMT -6
Has everyone moved on from Cutch? He's a FA this year, too. I like the idea of Cutch but it sounds like they've already made up their mind about Tucker for LF. |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Oct 31, 2018 13:58:38 GMT -6
Are the writers at Bleacher Report idiots? They predict, for Keuchel:
Contract Prediction: Four years, $84 million
For Eovaldi:
Contract Prediction: Four years, $60 million
For Corbin:
Contract Prediction: Five years, $110 million
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Post by Saint on Oct 31, 2018 14:03:16 GMT -6
Starting pitchers get vastly overpaid by contending (or close to contending) teams.
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Post by bearbryant on Oct 31, 2018 14:12:27 GMT -6
Darvish got $21M per last winter so those predictions aren't too far off
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Post by blcoach8 on Oct 31, 2018 14:39:24 GMT -6
Has everyone moved on from Cutch? He's a FA this year, too. I like the idea of Cutch but it sounds like they've already made up their mind about Tucker for LF. Could be the veteran bench guy we need. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Oct 31, 2018 14:41:00 GMT -6
Darvish got $21M per last winter so those predictions aren't too far off And this is a prime example of overpaying for a pitcher. I don't think the Cubs would be silly enough to do this again. |
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