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Post by Saint on Mar 11, 2019 12:03:34 GMT -6
I would not give up on the pimp stepping pitcher either...the team has 3 years of control and he doesn't cost that much money.... The three years of control is only an asset when the guy has proven he is worth keeping for three years.........Devenski has not done that. So who in our bullpen has proven, based on their last three seasons, to be worth keeping for three more years? I'm not sure that we have anybody who has put up better numbers over the last 3 years than Devenski. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2019 12:06:28 GMT -6
I would not give up on the pimp stepping pitcher either...the team has 3 years of control and he doesn't cost that much money.... The three years of control is only an asset when the guy has proven he is worth keeping for three years.........Devenski has not done that. Devenski had an era of 4.18 and a Whip < 1.2 last year. Also look at the 2016 and 2017 where he was quite good. Not exactly top tier last year, but sure not worthy of slow boat jettisoning to Grizzlyland. Just my opinion. |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Mar 11, 2019 12:08:35 GMT -6
Not looking good for Tucker to make the team.  |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2019 12:17:56 GMT -6
Not looking good for Tucker to make the team. Tucker..... Our 2020's version of Bogusevic? Thrash minor league pitching and then be victimized by a big league hook? |
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Post by Saint on Mar 11, 2019 12:25:53 GMT -6
On the plus side, Reddick is looking very strong in ST so far. If he returns closer to his 2017 form (which I think he can), we should have a very impressive all-around OF this year if they stay healthy.
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Mar 11, 2019 12:49:02 GMT -6
Brantley is showing some defense today.
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Mar 11, 2019 13:15:42 GMT -6
Nick Tanielu is tearing it up. Just hit his 4th HR and 11th RBI of the spring. He's 2019 version of 2018 Tucker.
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Post by Saint on Mar 11, 2019 13:17:03 GMT -6
Tanielu is looking like a nice Marwin replacement (at least for the IF) if Diaz doesn't work out.
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Post by Saint on Mar 11, 2019 13:29:30 GMT -6
Peacock with another strong outing. He has to be getting one of the rotation spots by this point.
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Mar 11, 2019 13:33:45 GMT -6
He should definitely get it over Framber. And probably over McHugh too.
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Post by blcoach8 on Mar 11, 2019 14:36:53 GMT -6
I won't be sold on White until he shows he can produce over the course of a full season instead of just having a hot streak. He has enough playing time at the major league level over the parts of his three seasons to be more than a full season's worth. In that time he has hit to a 113 OPS+ (13% above average) with 22 HR 32 Doubles and 75 RBI over a projected 162 games. It's certainly not all-star level performance, but the most recent 2nd half of that performance he has been an even better 140 OPS+ (40% above average) with 28 HR 34 Doubles and 96 RBI over a projected 162 games. If he even just hit somewhere in the middle of that it would be pretty impressive numbers. His career AAA numbers are ridiculous and his major league numbers, even including his rough 2016 stint, are pretty well above-average. He may or may not continue to hit as well as he did in 2018, but he's more ready for our 1B/DH spot than any available free agent. The streak he had last season of delivering in late innings is the only time he consistently produced when called up. I'm willing to give him a good chance to show he can do what your stats show,but, I will have to see it. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Mar 11, 2019 14:38:50 GMT -6
The three years of control is only an asset when the guy has proven he is worth keeping for three years.........Devenski has not done that. So who in our bullpen has proven, based on their last three seasons, to be worth keeping for three more years? I'm not sure that we have anybody who has put up better numbers over the last 3 years than Devenski. Nobody has been a bigger second half of the season flop the last two seasons as both Harris and Devenski and they are picking up right where they left off. Will did have a clean inning today. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Mar 11, 2019 14:40:30 GMT -6
He should definitely get it over Framber. And probably over McHugh too. We need to hope James is ready in the near future. If we have to go with Valdez, we are in trouble. I hope I'm wrong, but, I am afraid we are about to suffer the consequences of Luhnow not adding more pitching. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Mar 11, 2019 14:41:51 GMT -6
Tanielu is looking like a nice Marwin replacement (at least for the IF) if Diaz doesn't work out. He is making it difficult to send him down,but, my guess is he won't open the season with the Astros. |
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Post by marshall on Mar 11, 2019 14:53:15 GMT -6
...and the traditional move to DH may may not be available if solidly occupied by White (if he continues his production of the last half of last season)... I won't be sold on White until he shows he can produce over the course of a full season instead of just having a hot streak. Fair enough. But he does have a history of success doing the same thing in the minors, so it's not an aberration. |
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Post by Saint on Mar 11, 2019 15:12:08 GMT -6
He has enough playing time at the major league level over the parts of his three seasons to be more than a full season's worth. In that time he has hit to a 113 OPS+ (13% above average) with 22 HR 32 Doubles and 75 RBI over a projected 162 games. It's certainly not all-star level performance, but the most recent 2nd half of that performance he has been an even better 140 OPS+ (40% above average) with 28 HR 34 Doubles and 96 RBI over a projected 162 games. If he even just hit somewhere in the middle of that it would be pretty impressive numbers. His career AAA numbers are ridiculous and his major league numbers, even including his rough 2016 stint, are pretty well above-average. He may or may not continue to hit as well as he did in 2018, but he's more ready for our 1B/DH spot than any available free agent. The streak he had last season of delivering in late innings is the only time he consistently produced when called up. I'm willing to give him a good chance to show he can do what your stats show,but, I will have to see it. Well he has only been called up three times. Two out of those three times he performed very well. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Mar 11, 2019 15:14:14 GMT -6
I won't be sold on White until he shows he can produce over the course of a full season instead of just having a hot streak. Fair enough. But he does have a history of success doing the same thing in the minors, so it's not an aberration. I hope he can do it with the Astros but we need to see him do it |
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Post by blcoach8 on Mar 11, 2019 15:15:40 GMT -6
The streak he had last season of delivering in late innings is the only time he consistently produced when called up. I'm willing to give him a good chance to show he can do what your stats show,but, I will have to see it. Well he has only been called up three times. Two out of those three times he performed very well. He performed well ONCE......last season. and that faded awaty in the playoffs |
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Post by unionstation82 on Mar 11, 2019 15:20:29 GMT -6
People are down on Devenski because of his downward trend season to season. However, I agree with you that it’s just Spring Training. Harris is also in Spring Training. He deserves benefit of the doubt too even though I hate him. |
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Post by Saint on Mar 11, 2019 15:23:28 GMT -6
So who in our bullpen has proven, based on their last three seasons, to be worth keeping for three more years? I'm not sure that we have anybody who has put up better numbers over the last 3 years than Devenski. Nobody has been a bigger second half of the season flop the last two seasons as both Harris and Devenski and they are picking up right where they left off. Will did have a clean inning today. Devenski was better in the 2nd half than he was in the first half in 2017, and in 2018 he barely pitched in the 2nd half due to health issues. He had a rough showing in the 2017 postseason in limited work and then he was hurting the end of last year. You're letting two very small slumps over shadow the bulk of his excellent overall work. As for Harris, I think people are letting his poor 2015 ALDS color their opinion of everything else. His regular season performance with us has been excellent, and outside of that one one postseason series 4 years ago, he has only given up two earned runs in 8 appearances in the postseason for a 3.00 ERA. Not amazing, but certainly not as bad as everybody goes on about. Harris is certainly getting to a point where decline should be expected, and Devenski may turn out to now be a headcase (for some unknown reason), but their production with us has been quite good. I'm more concerned with the health of our rotation than I am the production of our bullpen. We don't have a ton of proven depth with the starters. |
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Post by Saint on Mar 11, 2019 15:24:34 GMT -6
Tanielu is looking like a nice Marwin replacement (at least for the IF) if Diaz doesn't work out. He is making it difficult to send him down,but, my guess is he won't open the season with the Astros. I agree. He'll end up in AAA and he'll be a call-up when we have an injury to one of the infielders. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Mar 11, 2019 15:25:21 GMT -6
Harris is also in Spring Training. He deserves benefit of the doubt too even though I hate him. What doubt??? |
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Post by Saint on Mar 11, 2019 15:27:15 GMT -6
Well he has only been called up three times. Two out of those three times he performed very well. He performed well ONCE......last season. and that faded awaty in the playoffs He hit .279 with an .853 OPS in 2017 in 67 plate appearances too (129 OPS+). As far as fading away in the playoffs, he had a great ALDS and a bad ALCS. Unfortunately, most of our guys had a poor ALCS...or else we would have won. |
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Post by bannedfan on Mar 11, 2019 15:32:32 GMT -6
I see AJ Reed is still not hitting. Leaving 5 on base today. I’m not shocked.
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Post by unionstation82 on Mar 11, 2019 15:33:34 GMT -6
He deserves benefit of the doubt too even though I hate him. What doubt??? He’s been effective at times, and there were worse options out of the bullpen (Sipp from 2016-17). I also don’t think roster judgments should not be made on the more senior members of the team based on just Spring Training. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Mar 11, 2019 15:36:30 GMT -6
I see AJ Reed is still not hitting. Leaving 5 on base today. I’m not shocked. I think the hype machine got us expecting more from Reed than he can give. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Mar 11, 2019 15:40:26 GMT -6
Count me as one who isn’t totally sold on White being a consistent offensive threat. I like him more than Gattis, though. Also, I’m not sold on White’s defense at all.
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Post by Saint on Mar 11, 2019 15:41:31 GMT -6
Framber had a rough outing today, but I think he makes a fine spot starter/innings eater out of the bullpen if they decide to keep Whitley down in AAA to start the year.
Verlander
Cole
McHugh
Miley
Peacock
Osuna
Rondon
Pressly
Devenski
Harris
James
Valdez or Whitley
Mix Perez in there at some point. I still think they need to add Keuchel if he's reasonable for a 2 or 3-year deal just to add depth.
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Post by unionstation82 on Mar 11, 2019 15:43:03 GMT -6
Not looking good for Tucker to make the team. I don’t know which direction they’re going with the kid. At first, they say the starting job is his to lose, and they want to trade away Reddick. Then, they say this. It’s hard to get a clear picture of Luhnow’s true plans forthe outfield. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Mar 11, 2019 15:45:05 GMT -6
I see AJ Reed is still not hitting. Leaving 5 on base today. I’m not shocked. same old Reed.......a useless dud. He is even worse than Fisher.........both need to go. |
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