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Post by thomasj13 on Jan 16, 2019 13:26:02 GMT -6
Umm, like if I didn't shoot you down and tell you I wasn't gay, but respected you as a poster, you and Yessi might never have happened... You say you aren't but we know the truth. And there's nothing wrong with that. Still hurt? I just have that affect on people. |
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Post by Saint on Jan 16, 2019 13:26:59 GMT -6
You say you aren't but we know the truth. And there's nothing wrong with that. Still hurt? I just have that affect on people. You're childish behavior is going to get us reprimanded again. We can't offend all the geezers! |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Jan 16, 2019 13:32:19 GMT -6
Get out.
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Post by thomasj13 on Jan 16, 2019 13:43:46 GMT -6
Still hurt? I just have that affect on people. You're childish behavior is going to get us reprimanded again. We can't offend all the geezers! We need to post after 6:30 pm when they are asleep. |
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Post by Saint on Jan 16, 2019 13:46:55 GMT -6
You're childish behavior is going to get us reprimanded again. We can't offend all the geezers! We need to post after 6:30 pm when they are asleep. But when they wake up for breakfast at 0300 they'll still see all of the posts and get cranky. |
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Post by kj50tx on Jan 16, 2019 13:50:28 GMT -6
By the way, kj50tx , how did you happen to find our forum? Did it come up in Google search results? I've been meaning to take steps to advertise the site but haven't gotten to it yet. I for years went to the old site and looked at offseason and trade speculation stuff on the boards. When I went looking, didn't find it and started searching for it. Think I found the link on reddit. By the way...very easy to operate in the system...even for an old codger like me.  Keep up the good work!!! |
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Post by unionstation82 on Jan 16, 2019 14:02:39 GMT -6
We need to post after 6:30 pm when they are asleep. But when they wake up for breakfast at 0300 they'll still see all of the posts and get cranky. LOL |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Jan 16, 2019 14:33:58 GMT -6
By the way, kj50tx , how did you happen to find our forum? Did it come up in Google search results? I've been meaning to take steps to advertise the site but haven't gotten to it yet. I for years went to the old site and looked at offseason and trade speculation stuff on the boards. When I went looking, didn't find it and started searching for it. Think I found the link on reddit. By the way...very easy to operate in the system...even for an old codger like me. Keep up the good work!!! Thank ya kindly. |
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Post by olpapa on Jan 16, 2019 21:51:19 GMT -6
K's are nice and can certainly get a pitcher out of a jam when needed, but Greg Maddux never had a high K/9 rate and he was one of the best to ever step on the bump. His weak contact rate was stellar though. Just had a knack for missing barrels. When Keuchel is rolling, he doesn't get hit hard and throws a lot of double play balls. Difference between CY Keuchel and 2017/2018 Keuchel was late movement and control. Everything Maddux threw, came out of the same arm slot and there wasn't any mechanical differences...he also could hit suspended dimes with everything he threw. When you factor in the movement, location and mechanical similarities of each pitch, his results weren't all that alarming. If Keuchel can get back to (and i think he can) moving it and spotting it, he can be a solid #2 or #3 for just about anyone. Just needs to make sure he isn't tipping...which I think he has a tendency to do on occasion. What I like about the K is that it doesn't advance runners nor allow for fielding errors, execept if the catcher fails to catch the pitch. Greg Maddux was the premier control pitcher and at missing barrels. He, along with Tom Glavine, managed to get umpires to call pitches that were often several inches off the plate as strikes. We still hear of umpires who have the "Maddux strike zone". Keuchel had an excellent season in 2015 and won the CY Young, but, has not been that effective consistently since that time. I agree with you that he could be tipping pitches. For some reason, his soft contract rate isn't nearly as low as it used to be. He is allowing more baserunners and isn't enticing the DP ball as often as he once did. He can be an effective #3 on the Astros staff behind Verlander and Cole, but, I don't think he gets the money he wants from us. Keuchel got the benefit of the “Maddux strife zone” in 2015. If I remember correctly, I read during the 2015 offseason that it was determined that DK got more called strikes that were outside the zone than any other pitcher in baseball in 2015. Umpires really squeezed him in 2016. My guess is that the umps got chastised by the league office for giving Keuchel so many out-of-the-zone strike calls so they went the other direction and took strikes away from him in 2016. He didn’t get the “Maddux strike zone” in 2017 or 2018 either, though I don’t think he got squeezed in those years nearly like he did in 2016. I’m thinking that if he starts getting the “Maddux strike zone” again, you will see the 2015 Keuchel again. |
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Post by olpapa on Jan 16, 2019 21:55:49 GMT -6
By the way, kj50tx , how did you happen to find our forum? Did it come up in Google search results? I've been meaning to take steps to advertise the site but haven't gotten to it yet. Fortunately our Australian buddy Aclotruveera never found this site. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Jan 16, 2019 23:00:03 GMT -6
By the way, kj50tx , how did you happen to find our forum? Did it come up in Google search results? I've been meaning to take steps to advertise the site but haven't gotten to it yet. Fortunately our Australian buddy Aclotruveera never found this site. better yet, texas colt didn't either. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2019 23:11:55 GMT -6
Were you active on the old mlb.com hosted message boards? Shit got downright brutal at times. Everything is mostly fine on this board, without the need for any real moderation. Boys will be boys, however, and occasionally our 65 years old and up contingency gets a little out of hand. Not in the "65" category yet and yes I am subject to spells of curmudgeonry. Still outside of one particular Angel's Troll, and Ken Giles, I think have been pretty well behaved. Now if Ghump shows up, that will all change. |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Jan 16, 2019 23:16:06 GMT -6
By the way, kj50tx , how did you happen to find our forum? Did it come up in Google search results? I've been meaning to take steps to advertise the site but haven't gotten to it yet. Fortunately our Australian buddy Aclotruveera never found this site. Haaa, I forgot about ol' Wendy Cocksnorfler. |
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Post by abregmanfan on Jan 17, 2019 9:55:07 GMT -6
Tbone doesn't post anymore?
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Jan 17, 2019 10:01:50 GMT -6
Tbone doesn't post anymore? He got married and had a little t-bone. |
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Post by kj50tx on Jan 17, 2019 12:45:05 GMT -6
By the way Olpapa...I was at that game you have as your profile pic. Might even be in the background. We were right at the end of the Stros dugout (2nd Row) Charlie Kerfeld threw beer all over us. If I recall, everyone was throwing beer that day...awesome experience.
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Post by kj50tx on Jan 17, 2019 12:47:22 GMT -6
Still have the ticket stub somewhere...probably in the same spot as my Sept 26, 1981 stub...little trivia...what happened that day? See if the whippersnappers can get that one.
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Post by thomasj13 on Jan 17, 2019 13:16:36 GMT -6
Still have the ticket stub somewhere...probably in the same spot as my Sept 26, 1981 stub...little trivia...what happened that day? See if the whippersnappers can get that one. Last day Bortaz had a non-pharmaceutical erection? I mean: What is the last day Bortaz had a non-pharmaceutical erection. BTW - for the true answer of your question, for Astros' trivia sake, I did google..I was 7 at the time...for many he has to be our favorite Astros player, or at least in the top 3. |
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Post by abregmanfan on Jan 17, 2019 13:31:29 GMT -6
Dang it Yankees got another good relief pitcher.
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Post by Hunter McCormick on Jan 17, 2019 13:38:59 GMT -6
Still have the ticket stub somewhere...probably in the same spot as my Sept 26, 1981 stub...little trivia...what happened that day? See if the whippersnappers can get that one. Last day Bortaz had a non-pharmaceutical erection? I mean: What is the last day Bortaz had a non-pharmaceutical erection.BTW - for the true answer of your question, for Astros' trivia sake, I did google..I was 7 at the time...for many he has to be our favorite Astros player, or at least in the top 3. I reckon this thread has been thoroughly derailed.
Then again the topic is strikeouts so ...
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Post by thomasj13 on Jan 17, 2019 13:52:44 GMT -6
Last day Bortaz had a non-pharmaceutical erection? I mean: What is the last day Bortaz had a non-pharmaceutical erection.BTW - for the true answer of your question, for Astros' trivia sake, I did google..I was 7 at the time...for many he has to be our favorite Astros player, or at least in the top 3. I reckon this thread has been thoroughly derailed.
Then again the topic is strikeouts so ...
Silly humor against the posters you like is always welcomed....watch Bortaz, he will sneak a jab or two every so often... |
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Post by bearbryant on Jan 17, 2019 14:48:39 GMT -6
By the way Olpapa...I was at that game you have as your profile pic. Might even be in the background. We were right at the end of the Stros dugout (2nd Row) Charlie Kerfeld threw beer all over us. If I recall, everyone was throwing beer that day...awesome experience. |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Jan 17, 2019 14:50:30 GMT -6
Just for the record...the title of this thread gives me cancer.
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Post by bearbryant on Jan 17, 2019 14:51:39 GMT -6
Still have the ticket stub somewhere...probably in the same spot as my Sept 26, 1981 stub...little trivia...what happened that day? See if the whippersnappers can get that one. |
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Post by Hunter McCormick on Jan 17, 2019 15:06:58 GMT -6
Just for the record...the title of this thread gives me cancer. Pffft! Don't blame it on the thread title. It's your diet. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Jan 17, 2019 16:29:49 GMT -6
What I like about the K is that it doesn't advance runners nor allow for fielding errors, execept if the catcher fails to catch the pitch. Greg Maddux was the premier control pitcher and at missing barrels. He, along with Tom Glavine, managed to get umpires to call pitches that were often several inches off the plate as strikes. We still hear of umpires who have the "Maddux strike zone". Keuchel had an excellent season in 2015 and won the CY Young, but, has not been that effective consistently since that time. I agree with you that he could be tipping pitches. For some reason, his soft contract rate isn't nearly as low as it used to be. He is allowing more baserunners and isn't enticing the DP ball as often as he once did. He can be an effective #3 on the Astros staff behind Verlander and Cole, but, I don't think he gets the money he wants from us. Keuchel got the benefit of the “Maddux strife zone” in 2015. If I remember correctly, I read during the 2015 offseason that it was determined that DK got more called strikes that were outside the zone than any other pitcher in baseball in 2015. Umpires really squeezed him in 2016. My guess is that the umps got chastised by the league office for giving Keuchel so many out-of-the-zone strike calls so they went the other direction and took strikes away from him in 2016. He didn’t get the “Maddux strike zone” in 2017 or 2018 either, though I don’t think he got squeezed in those years nearly like he did in 2016. I’m thinking that if he starts getting the “Maddux strike zone” again, you will see the 2015 Keuchel again. Keuchel hasn't spent much time in the "Maddux strike zone" since 2015. I don't hold out much hope for him to do it in the future. |
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Post by paastrosfan on Jan 19, 2019 16:43:17 GMT -6
I agree that the K is a huge factor in success for a pitcher. I like it for the defense the same way I hate it for the offense. Maddux was certainly an anomaly in that he didn't get a ton of K's and was extremely successful. I think that Glavine is actually a better comparison to Keuchel in that they both need the umpire to give em a little to be elite. They have the same type stuff. Keuchel just doesn't have the same control in the zone that Glavine had. While Glavine may have walked more batters...i think that was more a product of him just not giving in than control. Keuchel, for the last 3 years has lost a little of his command in the zone at times and it has really gotten him in trouble. He doesn't seem to just get shelled...seems like he might give up a soft single, has a walk and then an extra base hit or 2 then settles back in. Lack of focus or breakdown of mechanics might be the cause. He has the stuff to be elite or close to it. A good post, another thing that Dallas doesn't have going for him the last couple of years, he is not getting hitters to chase those balls off the plate. But that goes back to what you mentioned his lost lack of command. |
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