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Post by blcoach8 on May 16, 2019 22:23:38 GMT -6
obvious that voodoo was in special ed and failed that,too. He rode the short bus. ***** |
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2019 8:16:58 GMT -6
My favorite stat at the season quarter pole? Bryce Harper. .222 ba and 60 K's. I love the smell of a 1/4 of billion dollars burning in the morning  |
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Post by astrosdoug on May 18, 2019 8:19:20 GMT -6
That’s about as stern a statement as you will hear from Hinch. He has put Tyler on notice. What, you mean as a major league first baseman I shouldn't spend the whole winter playing golf and drinking beer??? |
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Post by astrosdoug on May 18, 2019 8:23:05 GMT -6
Was looking threw articles today and seen one on Edwin Encarnacon. As a possible equation for the Astros as a DH/1B. The article says 5million is currently being paid by the Indians for this year and the following. And for it to work for the Astros the Mariners would need to pay atleast another 10m per to get a decent prospect back. The prospect if they pay that, that they suggested??? Abraham Toro. To me I wouldnt do that deal. I would rather aim for Domingo Santana and Omar Navaraez. I wouldnt want Edwin but those other two i would be interested in and be willing to pay for. I don't want to draw a big conclusion from just one game, but the other day, EE looked horrible at first base. I guess if he continues to crank out the homers, that compensates for some boneheaded plays at first, but I would search for a better defensive 1B before acquiring EE. |
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Post by m240 on May 18, 2019 8:40:39 GMT -6
White is just about done here. He had his chance and let it get away. It will take cutting him to get him to wake up and realize that the reason that he has had success for the last two years was his devotion to getting himself in as good shape as he could. He did and he did well, then he threw it away by relaxing his guard and thinking that he made it. Life is tough and if you become content and stop trying to get better you get worse. Nothing is static and you can not just hold the line. You must move forward and get better or you get worse. White had a thin margin and now he has lost it.
The super 2 period is just about over and White will be cut and Alvarez will take his place before the end of the month.
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Post by astrosdoug on May 18, 2019 9:14:25 GMT -6
White is just about done here. He had his chance and let it get away. It will take cutting him to get him to wake up and realize that the reason that he has had success for the last two years was his devotion to getting himself in as good shape as he could. He did and he did well, then he threw it away by relaxing his guard and thinking that he made it. Life is tough and if you become content and stop trying to get better you get worse. Nothing is static and you can not just hold the line. You must move forward and get better or you get worse. White had a thin margin and now he has lost it. The super 2 period is just about over and White will be cut and Alvarez will take his place before the end of the month. White did a few radio interviews over the winter and it's funny, he didn't talk much about baseball in them. Mostly he just talked about his golf techniques and about how much he enjoyed hanging out with the boys back at the country club. Maybe for a young man who didn't grow up near a lot of wealth, to have a few hundred thousand in the bank and to be rubbing shoulders with Houston's rich and famous on the weekends, it seemed like he could kick up his heels and relax. Unfortunately that's not something he should be thinking about for at least 30 more years. |
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Post by nathangarza29 on May 18, 2019 12:03:08 GMT -6
If this Diaz injury puts him on the DL the i could see all of our dreams comming teue with Alvarez. But i would bet they call up Tucker
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Post by unionstation82 on May 18, 2019 12:27:15 GMT -6
My favorite stat at the season quarter pole? Bryce Harper. .222 ba and 60 K's. I love the smell of a 1/4 of billion dollars burning in the morning I’m glad the Astros played it safe and landed Brantley. His contributions have been invaluable. |
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Post by Hunter McCormick on May 18, 2019 14:57:12 GMT -6
White is just about done here. He had his chance and let it get away. It will take cutting him to get him to wake up and realize that the reason that he has had success for the last two years was his devotion to getting himself in as good shape as he could. He did and he did well, then he threw it away by relaxing his guard and thinking that he made it. Life is tough and if you become content and stop trying to get better you get worse. Nothing is static and you can not just hold the line. You must move forward and get better or you get worse. White had a thin margin and now he has lost it. The super 2 period is just about over and White will be cut and Alvarez will take his place before the end of the month. Sounds reasonable but I'm not sure Luhnow will pull the trigger just yet. White is out of options so if he gets DFA'd, he won't pass waivers. Some team that isn't going anywhere this year will grab him and play him. If he gets back on track, they'll have a usable player going forward, acquired for no cost in trade. Luhnow might be on the phone right now looking for a little something in return. Won't be a big something, but a player who the Astros can put in the minors for now and maybe get some use out of later. The Astros are bangin' pretty hard right now, so it's not like there's a HUGE need to replace him. But for sure if he doesn't start hitting, he won't be on the postseason roster. |
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Post by m240 on May 18, 2019 16:35:04 GMT -6
White is just about done here. He had his chance and let it get away. It will take cutting him to get him to wake up and realize that the reason that he has had success for the last two years was his devotion to getting himself in as good shape as he could. He did and he did well, then he threw it away by relaxing his guard and thinking that he made it. Life is tough and if you become content and stop trying to get better you get worse. Nothing is static and you can not just hold the line. You must move forward and get better or you get worse. White had a thin margin and now he has lost it. The super 2 period is just about over and White will be cut and Alvarez will take his place before the end of the month. Sounds reasonable but I'm not sure Luhnow will pull the trigger just yet. White is out of options so if he gets DFA'd, he won't pass waivers. Some team that isn't going anywhere this year will grab him and play him. If he gets back on track, they'll have a usable player going forward, acquired for no cost in trade. Luhnow might be on the phone right now looking for a little something in return. Won't be a big something, but a player who the Astros can put in the minors for now and maybe get some use out of later. The Astros are bangin' pretty hard right now, so it's not like there's a HUGE need to replace him. But for sure if he doesn't start hitting, he won't be on the postseason roster. If a guy like Alvarez does not get called up then it sends a very bad message to everyone in the system. He will be brought up before the end of the month or whenever the super 2 period is safely behind us. If the trigger can be pulled on a trade for White then great if not, oh well. |
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Post by marshall on May 18, 2019 16:50:40 GMT -6
Sounds reasonable but I'm not sure Luhnow will pull the trigger just yet. White is out of options so if he gets DFA'd, he won't pass waivers. Some team that isn't going anywhere this year will grab him and play him. If he gets back on track, they'll have a usable player going forward, acquired for no cost in trade. Luhnow might be on the phone right now looking for a little something in return. Won't be a big something, but a player who the Astros can put in the minors for now and maybe get some use out of later. The Astros are bangin' pretty hard right now, so it's not like there's a HUGE need to replace him. But for sure if he doesn't start hitting, he won't be on the postseason roster. If a guy like Alvarez does not get called up then it sends a very bad message to everyone in the system. He will be brought up before the end of the month or whenever the super 2 period is safely behind us. If the trigger can be pulled on a trade for White then great if not, oh well. From what I've been reading, I wouldn't expect him before the 2nd week in june. It's only about three weeks, but it's like Christmas and never seems to get here. |
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Post by thomasj13 on May 18, 2019 18:18:37 GMT -6
It's a bummer no other team has signed Keuchel so far; come early June, if he signs somewhere else the Astros will not receive draft pick compensation.
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Post by abregmanfan on May 18, 2019 19:45:09 GMT -6
It's a bummer no other team has signed Keuchel so far; come early June, if he signs somewhere else the Astros will not receive draft pick compensation. Piss on Keuchel. Let whoever have him. |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on May 18, 2019 23:11:09 GMT -6
It's a bummer no other team has signed Keuchel so far; come early June, if he signs somewhere else the Astros will not receive draft pick compensation. I think it's only a 4th round pick, or something. |
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Post by astrosdoug on May 18, 2019 23:18:09 GMT -6
the other day an opposing pitcher was tapping his foot on the ground in between pitches and the announcers wondered why it wasn't called a balk.
Well, the Cubs manager today protested a game his team lost because Sean Doolittle was doing the same thing.
Will be interesting to see how the league explains this and whether the toe-tappers become required to change their act.
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Post by marshall on May 19, 2019 5:13:12 GMT -6
I was watching the toe tap that the Cubs protested the game over and had a question. How can it be a balk move if there aren't any runners on base?
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Post by marshall on May 19, 2019 6:02:32 GMT -6
Which FA are we most likely to extend? Cole will be 29 in his FA year (2020), so that will work for him and against the Astros. Springer will be 31 in his FA year (2021), so that works against him and for the Astros. Correa will be 27 in his FA tear (2022), so that definitely work for him and against the Astros. Springer honestly looks like the most likely of the three to extend and that will cover one arbitration year. Perhaps he could be extended for 4 years @ $25M per. ($20M-Arb year, $25M,$25M, $30M). Perhaps not. The big contracts from last season aren't working out very well at this point in time. Harper? Machado? One a definite fail and one OK. but not worth the price. The owners may finally learn their lesson about paying outrageous sums to a single player on a 25 man team. It looked like it was happening last year until they yielded to the fan pressure. Neither of the highest paid FAs from the off season are even the best on their respective teams. Machado's OPS+ of 121 would make him the Astros 8th best position player BEHIND Reddick. Correa at least has two arbitration years that can be covered as well so I would say he's second most likely.
The two numbers that seem to have significant weight these days are 30 for FA signings and long term contracts and $100M as the market guide to extentions for players with arbitration years ahead of them. Both are refinements of risk/reward evaluations of both players and owners meeting in the middle.
The owners are slowly adapting to paying for anticipated future performance rather than past performance rather than wasting resources. Even the Yankees are showing an unwillingness to waste money based on past performance hoping for some to repeat. This means that the soft Salary Cap is actually working.
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2019 6:37:46 GMT -6
I was watching the toe tap that the Cubs protested the game over and had a question. How can it be a balk move if there aren't any runners on base? Only in the mind of a delusional flub. This laughable franchise is in a rare state of being able to contend, and they still wallow in stupidity. |
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Post by Hunter McCormick on May 19, 2019 8:41:55 GMT -6
Which FA are we most likely to extend? The basic concept behind extending is to lock a player into a contract that overall is less expensive than if the player can negotiate on the free agent market. It benefits the team by providing a lower salary. But it comes with a risk. The money is guaranteed. In the case of injury or poor performance, the team is still committed to the full value of the contract. But a team is in a better position to absorb a loss than a player without a contract is. It benefits the player by providing a guaranteed payday. The cost is a salary at lower rate than they could have gotten on the free agent market, providing they stayed healthy and continued to perform well. Cole has the least to benefit from extending. The time when he's 'on the bubble' is short. He only has to get through the rest of this season in good shape and he'll be negotiating for a long-term high-salary deal. Of course the last year on a contract is risky in itself. An injury that takes him offline for the rest of the season means he'll enter the free agent market with question marks surrounding him. But his agent is Boras, who has a reputation for steering his clients away from extensions. Springer has a longer time at risk. So he'll be more likely to sign than Cole. He has $29 million 'in the bank' already so if something bad happens he won't walk away a poor man. But locking in several years even at a below-market rate could be an attractive choice. Correa has the longest time at risk. And he has only earned $7 million so far, including this year's salary. The thought several years with a guaranteed paycheck at a good rate could be very enticing compared to the possibility of never seeing the opportunity to negotiate for a huge contract. |
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Post by marshall on May 19, 2019 9:40:57 GMT -6
Harper's OPS+ is 119 and he would also place 8th on the Astros.
I know it's still early, but there are great risks in long term contracts and owners are discovering they can't afford to play the Agents games anymore or they're doomed to mediocrity.
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Post by nathangarza29 on May 19, 2019 12:59:43 GMT -6
Which FA are we most likely to extend? The basic concept behind extending is to lock a player into a contract that overall is less expensive than if the player can negotiate on the free agent market. It benefits the team by providing a lower salary. But it comes with a risk. The money is guaranteed. In the case of injury or poor performance, the team is still committed to the full value of the contract. But a team is in a better position to absorb a loss than a player without a contract is. It benefits the player by providing a guaranteed payday. The cost is a salary at lower rate than they could have gotten on the free agent market, providing they stayed healthy and continued to perform well. Cole has the least to benefit from extending. The time when he's 'on the bubble' is short. He only has to get through the rest of this season in good shape and he'll be negotiating for a long-term high-salary deal. Of course the last year on a contract is risky in itself. An injury that takes him offline for the rest of the season means he'll enter the free agent market with question marks surrounding him. But his agent is Boras, who has a reputation for steering his clients away from extensions. Springer has a longer time at risk. So he'll be more likely to sign than Cole. He has $29 million 'in the bank' already so if something bad happens he won't walk away a poor man. But locking in several years even at a below-market rate could be an attractive choice. Correa has the longest time at risk. And he has only earned $7 million so far, including this year's salary. The thought several years with a guaranteed paycheck at a good rate could be very enticing compared to the possibility of never seeing the opportunity to negotiate for a huge contract. I think someone would have to do a friendly deal some where. COLE to me seems like he wants to get the money. Springer as I said before no more then a 3yr deal with options on a 4th and 5th yr. Correra i would try and keep before he gets to the mid point of his last yr. If he doesn't sign i would try and trade him. I wouldnt want to but players are bettwr then picks. |
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Post by thomasj13 on May 19, 2019 13:13:12 GMT -6
The basic concept behind extending is to lock a player into a contract that overall is less expensive than if the player can negotiate on the free agent market. It benefits the team by providing a lower salary. But it comes with a risk. The money is guaranteed. In the case of injury or poor performance, the team is still committed to the full value of the contract. But a team is in a better position to absorb a loss than a player without a contract is. It benefits the player by providing a guaranteed payday. The cost is a salary at lower rate than they could have gotten on the free agent market, providing they stayed healthy and continued to perform well. Cole has the least to benefit from extending. The time when he's 'on the bubble' is short. He only has to get through the rest of this season in good shape and he'll be negotiating for a long-term high-salary deal. Of course the last year on a contract is risky in itself. An injury that takes him offline for the rest of the season means he'll enter the free agent market with question marks surrounding him. But his agent is Boras, who has a reputation for steering his clients away from extensions. Springer has a longer time at risk. So he'll be more likely to sign than Cole. He has $29 million 'in the bank' already so if something bad happens he won't walk away a poor man. But locking in several years even at a below-market rate could be an attractive choice. Correa has the longest time at risk. And he has only earned $7 million so far, including this year's salary. The thought several years with a guaranteed paycheck at a good rate could be very enticing compared to the possibility of never seeing the opportunity to negotiate for a huge contract. I think someone would have to do a friendly deal some where. COLE to me seems like he wants to get the money. Springer as I said before no more then a 3yr deal with options on a 4th and 5th yr. Correra i would try and keep before he gets to the mid point of his last yr. If he doesn't sign i would try and trade him. I wouldnt want to but players are bettwr then picks. I think it is vital come trade deadline, the Astros acquire a #3 grade pitcher or better that is under team control, or one are allowed to talk in advance to discuss an extension. This would soften the blow if the Astros can not re-sign Cole; at the very least, the Astros will offer Cole a QO, and get draft pick compensation for him when signs elsewhere. I choose Springer over Correa because the Astros don't have a replacement for Springer in the minors. I think Alvarez replaces White this year, and helps fill the offensive void if Brantley leaves after 2020. Tucker replaces Reddick after 2020, but I still see him getting promoted this year to help the team. He might get the starting job next year if Brantley moves over to DH... Straw replaces Marisnick... It will be interesting to see how the Astros handle Correa...and a lot of that depends on Nova....If the Astros are serious playoff contenders in 2021, they might not trade him. They could just ride or die with him in 2021, and just do the QO in the off-season...all depends if Nova can slide-in and not be a big drop off in production/defense from what Correa is doing. |
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Post by nathangarza29 on May 20, 2019 7:20:37 GMT -6
Anyone listening to 610am this morning about Yordan Alvarez?
They all think they should bring him up for atleast a 10 day stent to see of he can hit mlb pitching. They think Springer should go on the DL to make sure his back is fine.
They also think that Jamison Taillon, Felipe Vazquez and Josh Bell are Targets for the Astros at the deadline.
They talked about how they aquired Cole and think the Pirates are gonna burn the team down again. They believe the Astros Minor league system is loaded and that they can add all three of those players for a fairly good rate of prospects.
Anyone wanna take a stab at what that would cost?
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Post by unionstation82 on May 20, 2019 7:23:03 GMT -6
Anyone listening to 610am this morning about Yordan Alvarez? They all think they should bring him up for atleast a 10 day stent to see of he can hit mlb pitching. They think Springer should go on the DL to make sure his back is fine. They also think that Jamison Taillon, Felipe Vazquez and Josh Bell are Targets for the Astros at the deadline. They talked about how they aquired Cole and think the Pirates are gonna burn the team down again. They believe the Astros Minor league system is loaded and that they can add all three of those players for a fairly good rate of prospects. Anyone wanna take a stab at what that would cost? If they land any of those Pirates, then the Red Sox and the media will be sweating like a whore in church. |
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Post by nathangarza29 on May 20, 2019 7:30:30 GMT -6
Anyone listening to 610am this morning about Yordan Alvarez? They all think they should bring him up for atleast a 10 day stent to see of he can hit mlb pitching. They think Springer should go on the DL to make sure his back is fine. They also think that Jamison Taillon, Felipe Vazquez and Josh Bell are Targets for the Astros at the deadline. They talked about how they aquired Cole and think the Pirates are gonna burn the team down again. They believe the Astros Minor league system is loaded and that they can add all three of those players for a fairly good rate of prospects. Anyone wanna take a stab at what that would cost? If they land any of those Pirates, then the Red Sox and the media will be sweating like a whore in church. I would be happy with the SP and RP. And yes it would shock the world. They made a compeling argument. Kinda like who they would replace on the roster. I would seriously think Josh James would have to be apart of that deal. |
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Post by thomasj13 on May 20, 2019 7:36:54 GMT -6
Anyone listening to 610am this morning about Yordan Alvarez? They all think they should bring him up for atleast a 10 day stent to see of he can hit mlb pitching. They think Springer should go on the DL to make sure his back is fine. They also think that Jamison Taillon, Felipe Vazquez and Josh Bell are Targets for the Astros at the deadline. They talked about how they aquired Cole and think the Pirates are gonna burn the team down again. They believe the Astros Minor league system is loaded and that they can add all three of those players for a fairly good rate of prospects. Anyone wanna take a stab at what that would cost? ~Well if 610 said that then you know it's going to happen~ |
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Post by nathangarza29 on May 20, 2019 7:46:03 GMT -6
Anyone listening to 610am this morning about Yordan Alvarez? They all think they should bring him up for atleast a 10 day stent to see of he can hit mlb pitching. They think Springer should go on the DL to make sure his back is fine. They also think that Jamison Taillon, Felipe Vazquez and Josh Bell are Targets for the Astros at the deadline. They talked about how they aquired Cole and think the Pirates are gonna burn the team down again. They believe the Astros Minor league system is loaded and that they can add all three of those players for a fairly good rate of prospects. Anyone wanna take a stab at what that would cost? ~Well if 610 said that then you know it's going to happen~ I doubt that much. I was just asking what you think about there suggestion. I did read we were interested in Jameson though. But I dont know the severity. |
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Post by Hunter McCormick on May 20, 2019 7:53:34 GMT -6
Correra i would try and keep before he gets to the mid point of his last yr. If he doesn't sign i would try and trade him. I wouldnt want to but players are bettwr then picks. Trading Correa in the winter before or during his final season of team control means the Astros have given up on that season. You aren't going to get ML-ready player s of quality who have substantial time under team control in return. For a one-year rental (and a pick attached if traded before the season begins), you would definitely get a top prospect and some nice pieces thrown in. |
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2019 8:54:03 GMT -6
Sad we are having this conversation, considering 5 years ago, he was supposed to be the next ARod.
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Post by nathangarza29 on May 20, 2019 9:24:13 GMT -6
Correra i would try and keep before he gets to the mid point of his last yr. If he doesn't sign i would try and trade him. I wouldnt want to but players are bettwr then picks. Trading Correa in the winter before or during his final season of team control means the Astros have given up on that season. You aren't going to get ML-ready player s of quality who have substantial time under team control in return. For a one-year rental (and a pick attached if traded before the season begins), you would definitely get a top prospect and some nice pieces thrown in. I would think he wants to stay its just gonna be hard presses to keep him. Unless money just flys off the books soon and the minor leaguers step up and play |
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