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Post by nathangarza29 on Aug 2, 2019 19:13:01 GMT -6
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Aug 2, 2019 19:23:19 GMT -6
How do u share tweets with videos i have some to share fro. Jim Crane  |
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Post by Hunter McCormick on Aug 2, 2019 19:27:55 GMT -6
How do u share tweets with videos i have some to share fro. Jim Crane  EDIT: Ninja'd by the Green one.  |
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Post by nathangarza29 on Aug 2, 2019 19:47:01 GMT -6
I got it
Watch those videos fellas
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Post by abregmanfan on Aug 2, 2019 20:33:43 GMT -6
I got it Watch those videos fellas Thanks Nathan. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2019 20:59:44 GMT -6
I don't think it'll happen but it would be awesome if we could resign Cole and have JV, Cole, Greinke for the next couple of years
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Post by abregmanfan on Aug 2, 2019 21:06:29 GMT -6
I don't think it'll happen but it would be awesome if we could resign Cole and have JV, Cole, Greinke for the next couple of years JV, Cole, Greinke, WHITLEY and Sanchez. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Aug 2, 2019 21:32:32 GMT -6
The Washington Nationals have DFA former Astros reliever Tony Sipp Here comes our new lefty. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Aug 2, 2019 21:34:52 GMT -6
I don't think it'll happen but it would be awesome if we could resign Cole and have JV, Cole, Greinke for the next couple of years JV, Cole, Greinke, WHITLEY and Sanchez. If we worked a deal so Cole gets a lot of deferred money it could happen.........they also need to get Springer nailed down. |
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Post by Hunter McCormick on Aug 2, 2019 22:00:32 GMT -6
JV, Cole, Greinke, WHITLEY and Sanchez. it could happen.........they also need to get Springer nailed down. Worst. Idea. Ever. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2019 22:27:08 GMT -6
Soooo, are we just going to ignore the fact that White was put as the leadoff hitter in today's Dodger game. Weird
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Post by blcoach8 on Aug 2, 2019 22:51:10 GMT -6
If we worked a deal so Cole gets a lot of deferred money it could happen.........they also need to get Springer nailed down. Worst. Idea. Ever. why |
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Post by Hunter McCormick on Aug 2, 2019 23:09:19 GMT -6
You don't buy a player, you rent him. Max Scherzer is a prime example of a team mortgaging their future for right-now. They have him for 7 years (starting in 2015 through the 2021 season) but paying him for 14 years. The Nats are on the hook for $15 million per year for the 2022 through 2018 seasons. He'll be a drain on their payroll for those seven years but he won't be playing for them.
That's just plain stupid.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2019 23:12:39 GMT -6
You don't buy a player, you rent him. Max Scherzer is a prime example of a team mortgaging their future for right-now. They have him for 7 years (starting in 2015 through the 2021 season) but paying him for 14 years. The Nats are on the hook for $15 million per year for the 2022 through 2018 seasons. He'll be a drain on their payroll for those seven years but he won't be playing for them.
That's just plain stupid.
Agreed. It would be like leasing a used car and spreading out the payments over 6 years even though you will only have it for 3. |
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Post by m240 on Aug 3, 2019 8:40:10 GMT -6
You don't buy a player, you rent him. Max Scherzer is a prime example of a team mortgaging their future for right-now. They have him for 7 years (starting in 2015 through the 2021 season) but paying him for 14 years. The Nats are on the hook for $15 million per year for the 2022 through 2018 seasons. He'll be a drain on their payroll for those seven years but he won't be playing for them.
That's just plain stupid.
I detailed how you do it in a previous post. It is done all the time. A signing bonus is paid up front and amoritized over the course of the contract. We have 22 million under the luxury tax this year and the only way to use it is with signing bonuses. You extend Springer and give him a big signing bonus and reduce his contract for next year to 1 million with the balance being paid up front. Do the same with a big chunk of Altuve money and there you go another 22 million. It can happen it just takes a little bit of cooperation and the intelligence and knowledge on how the process works. Long term deferrals are stupid though on that we can agree |
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Post by talshill on Aug 3, 2019 9:24:05 GMT -6
You don't buy a player, you rent him. Max Scherzer is a prime example of a team mortgaging their future for right-now. They have him for 7 years (starting in 2015 through the 2021 season) but paying him for 14 years. The Nats are on the hook for $15 million per year for the 2022 through 2018 seasons. He'll be a drain on their payroll for those seven years but he won't be playing for them.
That's just plain stupid.
I detailed how you do it in a previous post. It is done all the time. A signing bonus is paid up front and amoritized over the course of the contract. We have 22 million under the luxury tax this year and the only way to use it is with signing bonuses. You extend Springer and give him a big signing bonus and reduce his contract for next year to 1 million with the balance being paid up front. Do the same with a big chunk of Altuve money and there you go another 22 million. It can happen it just takes a little bit of cooperation and the intelligence and knowledge on how the process works. Long term deferrals are stupid though on that we can agree I'm not sure I follow your logic. Say we extend Springer, for the sake of a round number, to a 5 yr/$100m contract. He's going to hit the cap for $20m/yr no matter what you actually pay him this year vs. next year vs. year 3, etc. |
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Post by talshill on Aug 3, 2019 9:25:16 GMT -6
If we worked a deal so Cole gets a lot of deferred money it could happen.........they also need to get Springer nailed down. Worst. Idea. Ever. Bobby Bonilla didn't think so ;0 |
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Post by abregmanfan on Aug 3, 2019 9:25:57 GMT -6
I detailed how you do it in a previous post. It is done all the time. A signing bonus is paid up front and amoritized over the course of the contract. We have 22 million under the luxury tax this year and the only way to use it is with signing bonuses. You extend Springer and give him a big signing bonus and reduce his contract for next year to 1 million with the balance being paid up front. Do the same with a big chunk of Altuve money and there you go another 22 million. It can happen it just takes a little bit of cooperation and the intelligence and knowledge on how the process works. Long term deferrals are stupid though on that we can agree I'm not sure I follow your logic. Say we extend Springer, for the sake of a round number, to a 5 yr/$100m contract. He's going to hit the cap for $20m/yr no matter what you actually pay him this year vs. next year vs. year 3, etc. That's what I thought too. I think in football you can use the signing bonus like that. |
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Post by Hunter McCormick on Aug 3, 2019 9:30:30 GMT -6
You don't buy a player, you rent him. Max Scherzer is a prime example of a team mortgaging their future for right-now. They have him for 7 years (starting in 2015 through the 2021 season) but paying him for 14 years. The Nats are on the hook for $15 million per year for the 2022 through 2018 seasons. He'll be a drain on their payroll for those seven years but he won't be playing for them.
That's just plain stupid.
I detailed how you do it in a previous post. It is done all the time. A signing bonus is paid up front and amoritized over the course of the contract. We have 22 million under the luxury tax this year and the only way to use it is with signing bonuses. You extend Springer and give him a big signing bonus and reduce his contract for next year to 1 million with the balance being paid up front. Do the same with a big chunk of Altuve money and there you go another 22 million. It can happen it just takes a little bit of cooperation and the intelligence and knowledge on how the process works. Long term deferrals are stupid though on that we can agree As long as you're done paying by the time the player stops playing with you, I'd be okay with it. But I think what's left under the CBT threshold this year might be less than you think. I don't know the details on deadline deals and mid-year extension signings but I do know that off-season FA contracts and winter trades are calculated by AAV, not each year. 2019 might have a prorated portion of Greinke's remaining salary (owed by the Astros) applied to this season. idk. |
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Post by astrosfan34 on Aug 3, 2019 9:37:06 GMT -6
Soooo, are we just going to ignore the fact that White was put as the leadoff hitter in today's Dodger game. Weird I saw that too. How does that happen? |
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Post by koolade2 on Aug 3, 2019 9:39:41 GMT -6
Soooo, are we just going to ignore the fact that White was put as the leadoff hitter in today's Dodger game. Weird I saw that too. How does that happen? Maybe he lost 25 lbs on the way to Communist Cal as you know what happens when a country goes Socialist everyone loses weight. |
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Post by talshill on Aug 3, 2019 9:43:58 GMT -6
I'm not sure I follow your logic. Say we extend Springer, for the sake of a round number, to a 5 yr/$100m contract. He's going to hit the cap for $20m/yr no matter what you actually pay him this year vs. next year vs. year 3, etc. That's what I thought too. I think in football you can use the signing bonus like that. Right, but MLB plays by different rules. Same thing with Altuve's contract. Only way to reduce his cap hit is to trash his current contract (and if you try to do that the MLB players union would like to have a word with you) and re-sign a different contract for a longer term, possibly one that includes deferred money. No thanks. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Aug 3, 2019 9:56:50 GMT -6
I could be wrong, but I think luxury tax rules are:
1. 1st year you go over. it is a 20% up-charge for the total amount above threshold
2. If your team has a consecutive year above then it is a 30% up-charge
3. Third year consecutive year and beyond, it is 50%
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Post by olpapa on Aug 3, 2019 9:57:10 GMT -6
I detailed how you do it in a previous post. It is done all the time. A signing bonus is paid up front and amoritized over the course of the contract. We have 22 million under the luxury tax this year and the only way to use it is with signing bonuses. You extend Springer and give him a big signing bonus and reduce his contract for next year to 1 million with the balance being paid up front. Do the same with a big chunk of Altuve money and there you go another 22 million. It can happen it just takes a little bit of cooperation and the intelligence and knowledge on how the process works. Long term deferrals are stupid though on that we can agree As long as you're done paying by the time the player stops playing with you, I'd be okay with it. But I think what's left under the CBT threshold this year might be less than you think. I don't know the details on deadline deals and mid-year extension signings but I do know that off-season FA contracts and winter trades are calculated by AAV, not each year. 2019 might have a prorated portion of Greinke's remaining salary (owed by the Astros) applied to this season. idk. Here is s link to Roster Resource payroll info on Astros. At the bottom of the page it has a detailed explanation of how the Luxury Tax works and also has the estimate of where the Astros stand vs the luxury tax for this year and several years down the road based on players we have under contract now; with FA walking each year, etc: www.rosterresource.com/mlb-houston-astros-info/ |
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Post by abregmanfan on Aug 3, 2019 10:09:30 GMT -6
As long as you're done paying by the time the player stops playing with you, I'd be okay with it. But I think what's left under the CBT threshold this year might be less than you think. I don't know the details on deadline deals and mid-year extension signings but I do know that off-season FA contracts and winter trades are calculated by AAV, not each year. 2019 might have a prorated portion of Greinke's remaining salary (owed by the Astros) applied to this season. idk. Here is s link to Roster Resource payroll info on Astros. At the bottom of the page it has a detailed explanation of how the Luxury Tax works and also has the estimate of where the Astros stand vs the luxury tax for this year and several years down the road based on players we have under contract now; with FA walking each year, etc: www.rosterresource.com/mlb-houston-astros-info/Replacing Smith and Rondon that made 12.5 this year will help some. |
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Post by Hunter McCormick on Aug 3, 2019 10:27:30 GMT -6
Here is s link to Roster Resource payroll info on Astros. At the bottom of the page it has a detailed explanation of how the Luxury Tax works and also has the estimate of where the Astros stand vs the luxury tax for this year and several years down the road based on players we have under contract now; with FA walking each year, etc: www.rosterresource.com/mlb-houston-astros-info/That's pretty handy, the way they automatically add the benefits in for the CBT threshold calculation. And they've factored in a portion of Greinke's salary this year. So there isn't much room between where the Astros are for 2019 and the threshold. Lots of blanks to fill in for next year with arb guys and spots filled by exiting FAs. |
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Post by marshall on Aug 3, 2019 10:38:19 GMT -6
I detailed how you do it in a previous post. It is done all the time. A signing bonus is paid up front and amoritized over the course of the contract. We have 22 million under the luxury tax this year and the only way to use it is with signing bonuses. You extend Springer and give him a big signing bonus and reduce his contract for next year to 1 million with the balance being paid up front. Do the same with a big chunk of Altuve money and there you go another 22 million. It can happen it just takes a little bit of cooperation and the intelligence and knowledge on how the process works. Long term deferrals are stupid though on that we can agree I'm not sure I follow your logic. Say we extend Springer, for the sake of a round number, to a 5 yr/$100m contract. He's going to hit the cap for $20m/yr no matter what you actually pay him this year vs. next year vs. year 3, etc. Deffered Money is discounted by it's discount rate.
Pushing a signing bonus up enables you to include part of it to the current year rather than lose any gap you have. Not all of it, but some. Any that you can regain will not count against the future cap. It still costs the same, but it enables you to free up some future cap space.
The accounting is tricky, but shifting the hits to MLBs salary calculations enables you to maximize your spending without hitting the cap.
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Post by marshall on Aug 3, 2019 10:38:30 GMT -6
I detailed how you do it in a previous post. It is done all the time. A signing bonus is paid up front and amoritized over the course of the contract. We have 22 million under the luxury tax this year and the only way to use it is with signing bonuses. You extend Springer and give him a big signing bonus and reduce his contract for next year to 1 million with the balance being paid up front. Do the same with a big chunk of Altuve money and there you go another 22 million. It can happen it just takes a little bit of cooperation and the intelligence and knowledge on how the process works. Long term deferrals are stupid though on that we can agree I'm not sure I follow your logic. Say we extend Springer, for the sake of a round number, to a 5 yr/$100m contract. He's going to hit the cap for $20m/yr no matter what you actually pay him this year vs. next year vs. year 3, etc. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Aug 3, 2019 10:51:01 GMT -6
You don't buy a player, you rent him. Max Scherzer is a prime example of a team mortgaging their future for right-now. They have him for 7 years (starting in 2015 through the 2021 season) but paying him for 14 years. The Nats are on the hook for $15 million per year for the 2022 through 2018 seasons. He'll be a drain on their payroll for those seven years but he won't be playing for them.
That's just plain stupid.
I detailed how you do it in a previous post. It is done all the time. A signing bonus is paid up front and amoritized over the course of the contract. We have 22 million under the luxury tax this year and the only way to use it is with signing bonuses. You extend Springer and give him a big signing bonus and reduce his contract for next year to 1 million with the balance being paid up front. Do the same with a big chunk of Altuve money and there you go another 22 million. It can happen it just takes a little bit of cooperation and the intelligence and knowledge on how the process works. Long term deferrals are stupid though on that we can agree If they do it right, we can re-sign Cole, who reportedly wants to staty, and also extend Springer. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2019 10:53:46 GMT -6
It's giving me a headache trying to fish through this contractual rules largess. One thing is for certain though, Crane better be ready to open his checkbook on a monumental basis.
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