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Post by unionstation82 on Apr 11, 2018 15:11:26 GMT -6
So hard to tell with McCullers. In Game 7 of the World Series he was hitting batters left and right but Hinch left him in and he got outs with traffic on the basepaths. If the guy is gonna be a frontline starter he's got to show he can pitch out of jams like Verlander and Keuchel did to a lesser extent earlier in the series You know when McCullers is exhaling like the top of a train and doing those herky jerky moves with the shoulders that it’s going to be a rough day for him. |
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Post by astrosdoug on Apr 11, 2018 15:13:23 GMT -6
When Yuli gets back, I hope it's Fisher who goes down. Davis is starting to hit his stride.
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Post by bearbryant on Apr 11, 2018 15:18:09 GMT -6
doing those herky jerky moves with the shoulders |
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Post by unionstation82 on Apr 11, 2018 15:43:27 GMT -6
Are you saying he looks gay?
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Post by blcoach8 on Apr 11, 2018 15:48:26 GMT -6
Peacock is human and gave up that home run.....terrible location on that pitch. If we had gotten McCullers out before giving up 8 runs, this may have ended differently. This game is 100% on McCullers, but each reliever we’ve used as a closer has had shaky moments: Giles, Gregerson, Harris, Peacock (the past couple games in Minnesota), maybe Devenski (I’m not sure if he was ever closer). Losing this game is on McCullers and partly on Hinch for leaving him in to give up 8 runs. |
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Post by m240 on Apr 11, 2018 17:04:02 GMT -6
It is McCullers job to pitch and Hinch's job to determine if he is doing it well enough to stay in the game. In my mind Hinch blew it today as McCuller's did not have it. You could clearly see the ball was not moving normally and that ump was not giving out the low inside corner.
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Post by m240 on Apr 11, 2018 17:10:25 GMT -6
After today's game Davis is hitting 250 and Fisher is hitting 154. Fisher should be the one going down.
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Post by blcoach8 on Apr 11, 2018 18:07:41 GMT -6
When Yuli gets back, I hope it's Fisher who goes down. Davis is starting to hit his stride. I agree. Keep Davis and send Fisher down |
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Post by astrosdoug on Apr 11, 2018 18:50:21 GMT -6
Today's was the second game in a row in which the Astros hitters kept their strikeouts down to a reasonable level. Last year's team averaged 6.5 strikeouts per game, so any time they can complete a game with 8 K's or fewer I'm happy. It's those games with 10 or 13 that just don't give the baseball many chances to find green grass and get and earn a hit.
Astros have Cole - Morton - Verlander lined up for the Rangers so that gives the team an excellent chance of taking the series, if not sweeping it.
As for the Angels, I say bring 'em on. Astros will be ready for those upstarts.
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Post by astrosdoug on Apr 11, 2018 18:55:27 GMT -6
After today's game Davis is hitting 250 and Fisher is hitting 154. Fisher should be the one going down. When Fisher isn't striking out, he is grounding out on the infield. He hits the ball incredibly hard but that is not very helpful when he can't hit the ball over the infielders' heads. His main use has been as a pinch runner but the Astros already have Jake for that purpose and that one skill alone isn't enough to justify a roster spot. Yuli's return will help cut down on the strikeouts and add a power bat in plate of Fisher's blahness. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Apr 11, 2018 21:14:33 GMT -6
Losing this game is on McCullers and partly on Hinch for leaving him in to give up 8 runs. I don’t know what Hinch was doing with McCullers. I guess he was just seeing if he could work his way out of the inning. Too bad this exercise ended up costing the Astros the game. By the way, that Angels offense is legit. |
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Post by astrosdoug on Apr 11, 2018 22:03:46 GMT -6
Lance has often seemed angry about getting pulled from games early in the past; maybe this was Hinch's way of helping him see why sometimes that is the best thing to do.
At least, if Lance is demoted in the starting rotation, this game helps build a statistical basis to justify such a move.
I'm not too worried about how Keuchel or Lance did in this weather. It was anomalous and probably affected their grip as well as the flight characteristics of the ball enough to possibly have been crucial factors. I don't foresee them having to deal with this kind of weather on a regular basis.
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Post by blcoach8 on Apr 11, 2018 22:07:48 GMT -6
Losing this game is on McCullers and partly on Hinch for leaving him in to give up 8 runs. I don’t know what Hinch was doing with McCullers. I guess he was just seeing if he could work his way out of the inning. Too bad this exercise ended up costing the Astros the game. By the way, that Angels offense is legit. Lance's history says his tendency is to get worse instead of better in those situations. He should have never been left in for that long |
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Post by blcoach8 on Apr 11, 2018 22:09:08 GMT -6
Lance has often seemed angry about getting pulled from games early in the past; maybe this was Hinch's way of helping him see why sometimes that is the best thing to do. At least, if Lance is demoted in the starting rotation, this game helps build a statistical basis to justify such a move. I'm not too worried about how Keuchel or Lance did in this weather. It was anomalous and probably affected their grip as well as the flight characteristics of the ball enough to possibly have been crucial factors. I don't foresee them having to deal with this kind of weather on a regular basis. Keuchel hasn't been terrible, but, he hasn't looked good in any of his starts. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Apr 11, 2018 23:23:22 GMT -6
Keuchel is an umpire-dependent pitcher. If he gets the close calls, he’ll have a great day. If he doesn’t, he’ll give up hits when forced to challenge hitters. He doesn’t normally like to do so, which leads to walks and big innings that put his offense behind the 8-ball.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2018 7:42:34 GMT -6
Keuchel gives up so many light infield hits, it's crazy!
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Post by Saint on Apr 12, 2018 8:13:12 GMT -6
There's no reason to worry about Keuchel. He's not an ace anymore, but he'll be a solid #3-#2 type pitcher. He has had a little bit of bad luck so far.
If the offense keeps coming around (and we get our stars going the way they can) they'll go on a tear. This day off comes at a good time.
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Post by thomasj13 on Apr 12, 2018 9:12:39 GMT -6
There's no reason to worry about Keuchel. He's not an ace anymore, but he'll be a solid #3-#2 type pitcher. He has had a little bit of bad luck so far. If the offense keeps coming around (and we get our stars going the way they can) they'll go on a tear. This day off comes at a good time. Morton and Cole have been great so far, are there any other Pirates pitchers that just need a change of scenery? |
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Post by bearbryant on Apr 12, 2018 10:01:50 GMT -6
By the way, that Angels offense is legit. |
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Post by olpapa on Apr 12, 2018 10:30:15 GMT -6
By the way, that Angels offense is legit. Angels GM did a great job addressing the teams needs in the offseason. Their offense is legit and their infield defense is much improved. If they can stay healthy they won’t finish 20 games behind the Astros this year. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Apr 12, 2018 11:11:42 GMT -6
There's no reason to worry about Keuchel. He's not an ace anymore, but he'll be a solid #3-#2 type pitcher. He has had a little bit of bad luck so far. If the offense keeps coming around (and we get our stars going the way they can) they'll go on a tear. This day off comes at a good time. Right now, Keuchel is a #4 in this rotation. Verlander, Cole, Morton as 1,2,3. McHugh might need to be #5 until McCullers pulls his head out of his butt. |
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Post by olpapa on Apr 12, 2018 11:34:36 GMT -6
There's no reason to worry about Keuchel. He's not an ace anymore, but he'll be a solid #3-#2 type pitcher. He has had a little bit of bad luck so far. If the offense keeps coming around (and we get our stars going the way they can) they'll go on a tear. This day off comes at a good time. Right now, Keuchel is a #4 in this rotation. Verlander, Cole, Morton as 1,2,3. McHugh might need to be #5 until McCullers pulls his head out of his butt. IMO AJ isn’t helping McCullers any by leaving him on the mound until he totally implodes before taking him out. It might do Lance some good to get the quick hook a few times. He is a competitor. I think getting the quick hook a few times might motivate Lance to conquer the nerves and anxiety and start dominating consistently in the way a guy with his kind of stuff should. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Apr 12, 2018 12:11:32 GMT -6
IMO, Hinch made a big mistake by leaving McCullers in the game that long. I would like to see what would happen if McHugh went into the rotation behind Verlander, Cole, Morton, and Keuchel. Put McCullers in the pen for awhile. I can see a time when Lance could develop into closer material.
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Post by Saint on Apr 12, 2018 12:19:27 GMT -6
There's no reason to worry about Keuchel. He's not an ace anymore, but he'll be a solid #3-#2 type pitcher. He has had a little bit of bad luck so far. If the offense keeps coming around (and we get our stars going the way they can) they'll go on a tear. This day off comes at a good time. Morton and Cole have been great so far, are there any other Pirates pitchers that just need a change of scenery? Joe Musgrove |
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Post by Saint on Apr 12, 2018 12:25:43 GMT -6
IMO, Hinch made a big mistake by leaving McCullers in the game that long. I would like to see what would happen if McHugh went into the rotation behind Verlander, Cole, Morton, and Keuchel. Put McCullers in the pen for awhile. I can see a time when Lance could develop into closer material. P I think they just need to start warming up McHugh by the 4th inning every time McCullers starts. Even if McCullers does well he's likely going 6 innings at most. |
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Post by olpapa on Apr 12, 2018 12:52:29 GMT -6
IMO, Hinch made a big mistake by leaving McCullers in the game that long. I would like to see what would happen if McHugh went into the rotation behind Verlander, Cole, Morton, and Keuchel. Put McCullers in the pen for awhile. I can see a time when Lance could develop into closer material. P I think they just need to start warming up McHugh by the 4th inning every time McCullers starts. Even if McCullers does well he's likely going 6 innings at most. Agreed |
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Post by blcoach8 on Apr 12, 2018 12:52:56 GMT -6
if you need to consistently warm up a reliever in the 4th, McCullers has no business in the rotation. Put him in the bullpen.
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Post by astrosdoug on Apr 12, 2018 13:02:33 GMT -6
There's no reason to worry about Keuchel. He's not an ace anymore, but he'll be a solid #3-#2 type pitcher. He has had a little bit of bad luck so far. If the offense keeps coming around (and we get our stars going the way they can) they'll go on a tear. This day off comes at a good time. Morton and Cole have been great so far, are there any other Pirates pitchers that just need a change of scenery? Felipe Rivero/Vazquez |
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Post by bearbryant on Apr 12, 2018 13:41:12 GMT -6
I think they just need to start warming up McHugh by the 4th inning every time McCullers starts. |
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Post by Saint on Apr 12, 2018 14:06:49 GMT -6
I think they just need to start warming up McHugh by the 4th inning every time McCullers starts. Hell, they could even rotate who is the starter and who is the reliever. First dynamic duo to potentially win and save 10 games each. |
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