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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2019 14:02:37 GMT -6
I’ll take Molina more seriously when he stops getting his eyebrows done. I think Molina and the the Redturds need to focus more on bringing respectability back to a once proud sucessful franchise. The "so called" best fans in baseball won't be patient forever. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Jul 8, 2019 14:29:05 GMT -6
We can all agree that Marisnick veered toward Lucroy and that Lucroy blocked without possession. Suspending Marisnick would be fine if not for too long. I just dislike the rule. People are acting like Jake had no skin in the game. He put himself at risk too. Suspending Marisnick would be the wrong thing to do. The thing that should be the determining factor here is the fact that Lucroy blocked his path to the plate WITHOUT THE BALL. Jake ran him over because he has the right to home plate. The only way Jake would be in violation would be if Lucroy had the ball......He did not. |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Jul 8, 2019 14:58:26 GMT -6
Did y'all see where Molina told Correa to "shit in his mother's mouth"? In what context? Internet tells me it's some kind of Puerto Rican insult. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2019 15:01:01 GMT -6
Internet tells me it's some kind of Puerto Rican insult. I think that shit on Molina's neck is braille to give him instructions on how to piss. |
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Post by Saint on Jul 8, 2019 15:09:37 GMT -6
Internet tells me it's some kind of Puerto Rican insult. I feel like that's an insult to anybody... |
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Post by unionstation82 on Jul 8, 2019 15:14:21 GMT -6
Did y'all see where Molina told Correa to "shit in his mother's mouth"? I don’t know if I want Correa to curse him out or stay polite. That comment seems way out of line. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Jul 8, 2019 15:17:26 GMT -6
Did y'all see where Molina told Correa to "shit in his mother's mouth"? I don’t know if I want Correa to curse him out or stay polite. That comment seems way out of line. Politeness is not called for in this case. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Jul 8, 2019 15:20:06 GMT -6
I remember when Preston Wilson slid into Biggio to break up a double play (Biggio tore his ACL). Biggio’s response was something to the effect of “good baseball play”.
That’s the difference between real baseball and the softie rules they have now.
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Post by unionstation82 on Jul 8, 2019 15:21:42 GMT -6
I’ll take Molina more seriously when he stops getting his eyebrows done. I think Molina and the the Redturds need to focus more on bringing respectability back to a once proud sucessful franchise. The "so called" best fans in baseball won't be patient forever. I’m so sick of that nickname. They’re no classier than other other fan base. They just follow the team more. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Jul 8, 2019 15:22:48 GMT -6
We can all agree that Marisnick veered toward Lucroy and that Lucroy blocked without possession. Suspending Marisnick would be fine if not for too long. I just dislike the rule. People are acting like Jake had no skin in the game. He put himself at risk too. Suspension for Jake is not fine. What the hell was he supposed to do? Split second decisions were made by both parties. This is a man's game. If you can't man-up, then get off the field. I mean I think the rule is shit, but if he broke the rule, what else are they going to do? |
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Post by unionstation82 on Jul 8, 2019 15:24:44 GMT -6
We can all agree that Marisnick veered toward Lucroy and that Lucroy blocked without possession. Suspending Marisnick would be fine if not for too long. I just dislike the rule. People are acting like Jake had no skin in the game. He put himself at risk too. Except I do not believe that Marisnick PURPOSEFULLY veered toward Lucroy. I'm not sure how he could when he moved to the side first. I don’t think he did either, but what can you do? The replay looks incriminating even though you and I both know he didn’t do it on purpose. It seems to me they don’t give a damn about Lucroy blocking the area without the ball. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2019 15:24:50 GMT -6
Suspension for Jake is not fine. What the hell was he supposed to do? Split second decisions were made by both parties. This is a man's game. If you can't man-up, then get off the field. I mean I think the rule is shit, but if he broke the rule, what else are they going to do? Based on the Posey rule, I do not see how Jake avoids a suspension. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Jul 8, 2019 15:26:35 GMT -6
I mean I think the rule is shit, but if he broke the rule, what else are they going to do? Based on the Posey rule, I do not see how Jake avoids a suspension. I agree. The snowflakes will have their way. The public always rages about these sorts of things. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Jul 8, 2019 15:50:02 GMT -6
Based on the Posey rule, I do not see how Jake avoids a suspension. I agree. The snowflakes will have their way. The public always rages about these sorts of things. I am so sick of damn whining snowflakes getting their way. Yuli's suspension over the Darvish incident was bullshit to cater to the PC liberals and I have no doubt they will whine until Jake is suspended. My guess is if he played for the Yankees or Red Sox he would be in the clear. |
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Post by batman007 on Jul 8, 2019 15:56:53 GMT -6
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Post by unionstation82 on Jul 8, 2019 15:57:19 GMT -6
The more I see the replay, the more Jake looks like he was juked into the wrong direction. I’m leaning more into he shouldn’t be suspended at all, but that likely won’t happen.
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Post by blcoach8 on Jul 8, 2019 16:18:33 GMT -6
The more I see the replay, the more Jake looks like he was juked into the wrong direction. I’m leaning more into he shouldn’t be suspended at all, but that likely won’t happen. I never thought he should be suspended.....I saw the play and replays........Lucroy created it by being in the baseline without the ball. |
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Post by sempersmom on Jul 8, 2019 16:36:17 GMT -6
The more I see the replay, the more Jake looks like he was juked into the wrong direction. I’m leaning more into he shouldn’t be suspended at all, but that likely won’t happen. It took you this long? I thought that as soon as someone suggested it. What was Jake supposed to do? No suspension is necessary. It was an unfortunate accident. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2019 16:49:25 GMT -6
The more I see the replay, the more Jake looks like he was juked into the wrong direction. I’m leaning more into he shouldn’t be suspended at all, but that likely won’t happen. It took you this long? I thought that as soon as someone suggested it. What was Jake supposed to do? No suspension is necessary. It was an unfortunate accident. SM.... You are on to something Holy smokes....why isn't anyone bring up this aspect of the Posey Rule (7.13) The catcher may not block the pathway of a runner attempting to score unless he has possession of the ball. If the catcher blocks the runner before he has the ball, the umpire may call the runner safe IMO...Lucroy never had possesion of the ball. Seems this would preclude the collision. and p.s. The lack of ball possession took place before the collision. |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Jul 8, 2019 16:53:37 GMT -6
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Post by unionstation82 on Jul 8, 2019 16:54:51 GMT -6
It took you this long? I thought that as soon as someone suggested it. What was Jake supposed to do? No suspension is necessary. It was an unfortunate accident. SM.... You are on to something Holy smokes....why isn't anyone bring up this aspect of the Posey Rule (7.13) The catcher may not block the pathway of a runner attempting to score unless he has possession of the ball. If the catcher blocks the runner before he has the ball, the umpire may call the runner safe IMO...Lucroy never had possesion of the ball. Seems this would preclude the collision. and p.s. The lack of ball possession took place before the collision. This is the only chance Jake has to avoid suspension, but I think they’ll still do it. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2019 16:56:24 GMT -6
SM.... You are on to something Holy smokes....why isn't anyone bring up this aspect of the Posey Rule (7.13) The catcher may not block the pathway of a runner attempting to score unless he has possession of the ball. If the catcher blocks the runner before he has the ball, the umpire may call the runner safe IMO...Lucroy never had possesion of the ball. Seems this would preclude the collision. and p.s. The lack of ball possession took place before the collision. This is the only chance Jake has to avoid suspension, but I think they’ll still do it. Unless he was with the Yankees, Red Sox, or Dodgers. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Jul 8, 2019 16:56:40 GMT -6
The more I see the replay, the more Jake looks like he was juked into the wrong direction. I’m leaning more into he shouldn’t be suspended at all, but that likely won’t happen. It took you this long? I thought that as soon as someone suggested it. What was Jake supposed to do? No suspension is necessary. It was an unfortunate accident. When you look at it for the first time, it looks like Jake went in the direction of the catcher intentionally. When you slow it down on replay, he clearly is confused on where to go then had to make the choice at the last possible moment. |
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Post by churchill on Jul 8, 2019 18:11:49 GMT -6
I don’t even understand how Marisnick could have attempted a slide. He probably would have hurt himself if he attempted to slide. Lucroy was blocking the entire plate and left no route to slide without leaving the base path. I’m very sympathetic towards what happened to Lucroy. It was a very unfortunate play both ways in my opinion. I don’t think some sort of collision could have been avoided. I love baseball, but the rules of the game are getting ridiculous.
Blocking the plate, really...
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Post by talshill on Jul 8, 2019 18:50:03 GMT -6
I don’t even understand how Marisnick could have attempted a slide. He probably would have hurt himself if he attempted to slide. Lucroy was blocking the entire plate and left no route to slide without leaving the base path. I’m very sympathetic towards what happened to Lucroy. It was a very unfortunate play both ways in my opinion. I don’t think some sort of collision could have been avoided. I love baseball, but the rules of the game are getting ridiculous.
Blocking the plate, really...
You conveniently left the previous frames out, when Lucroy was on/just inside the line. You have the option in hindsight of assigning a motive to a man you don't know regarding an incident in which you played no part. You don't know his motive but you feel self-assured enough to assign one to him. Another member of the group "often wrong but never in doubt". Adios. |
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Post by churchill on Jul 8, 2019 19:12:32 GMT -6
Blocking the plate, really...
You conveniently left the previous frames out, when Lucroy was on/just inside the line. You have the option in hindsight of assigning a motive to a man you don't know regarding an incident in which you played no part. You don't know his motive but you feel self-assured enough to assign one to him. Another member of the group "often wrong but never in doubt". Adios.  |
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Post by m240 on Jul 8, 2019 20:26:58 GMT -6
A. I don't see how Jake violated anything. B. But, if he did...It's a dumb rule that is being enforced based on emotional responses, not actual baseball play. If Lucroy had stood right up and Jake had come up limping, I doubt it would have even been overturned. Jake has three choices at that split second. Go left, go right, or slide 5 feet away from getting to homeplate and being tagged out even though the catcher doesn't have the ball yet. He chose left based on what he thought his best option was, and there is no history in his career to suggest it was anything else. Does anybody think that Jake wanted to risk an injury to himself or Lucroy in the last game before the all-star break when we're up 7.5 games up in the division? In the end, if they're that concerned, they should make everybody slide at homeplate all the time, period. And the catcher can't be in the baseline without the ball, ever, period. No confusion. Marisnick violated the rules because he altered course Lucroy violated the rules because he blocked the plate without possession of the ball. If Marisnick does not deviate from his path he would of been called safe by rule even if he never touched the plate because Lucroy blocked the plate without the ball. Now having said that I do not think that I would of just ran through his leg because then I am going flying, if I drop my shoulder into is leg then I most likely bust my shoulder and break Lucroy's leg. If I slide feet first I never make it to the plate. Bottom line, we won and Marisnick gets suspended and Lucroy goes on concussion protocol. More interesting questions are what happens when the Astros play the Angels later this month and what happens when the Astros play the Cardinals. Expect some fireworks. Seems kind of silly to quote yourself but I have been saying since this morning that Lucroy violated the rule as well as Marisnick. The optics on Marisnick's violation will get him suspended. |
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Post by churchill on Jul 11, 2019 13:54:11 GMT -6
Marisnick suspended 2 games for Lucroy collision
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2019 15:43:47 GMT -6
If you know anybody trashing Marsinick for maliciousness or intent, please share this alternate camera angle of the event, that the MSM / ESPN shit media seems to be avoidinng.  |
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Post by talshill on Jul 11, 2019 17:12:00 GMT -6
Marisnick suspended 2 games for Lucroy collision
I'm OK with it. Marisnick DID alter his path to the left and I can certainly understand why an opposing fan group would think it was intentional contact, but Jake's been in the league 7(?) years and we've never seen him do anything to harm someone. He claims it was not intentional and I believe that. However, he did collide with Lucroy (and I sincerely hope he recovers soon) and per the rules he's suspended. BTW, thanks for the large font, otherwise we might have missed it. |
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