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Post by Saint on Aug 26, 2019 8:17:16 GMT -6
85-47
Team OPS+: 120
Team ERA+: 122
Morton vs. Verlander
At least 9 games up (possibly as much 10) in the division, and tied for the best record in the AL before the games today. On pace for 104 Wins, and we only have to play .500 ball the rest of the season to be a 100-game winner again. Whereas Oakland would have to go 26-7 the rest of the way to catch us if that's all we did.
Going into the last month-worth of playing time, here are some projected numbers:
Springer: 33 HR 83 RBI 91 Runs 6/7 SB
Altuve: 29 HR 72 RBI 91 Runs 6/10 SB
Bregman: 39 HR 110 RBI 120 Runs 5/6 SB
Brantley: 23 HR 98 RBI 98 Runs 4/6 SB
Gurriel: 32 HR 112 RBI 88 Runs 5/9 SB
Correa: 23 HR 69 RBI 48 Runs 1/1 SB
Yordan: 23 HR 71 RBI 45 Runs 0/0 SB
Chirinos: 17 HR 55 RBI 58 Runs 0/2 SB
Reddick: 12 HR 49 RBI 58 Runs 5/7 SB
Verlander: 18-6 2.77 ERA 218 IP 293 K
Cole: 18-6 2.75 ERA 200 IP 292 K
Miley: 16-5 3.13 ERA 187 IP 158 K
Greinke: 17-5 2.83 ERA 210 IP 184 K
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Post by blcoach8 on Aug 26, 2019 9:40:15 GMT -6
I wouldn't count on Correa having those numbers.
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Post by unionstation82 on Aug 26, 2019 9:43:55 GMT -6
The stats are mostly great, but those SB numbers fail.
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Aug 26, 2019 9:50:22 GMT -6
I wouldn't count on Correa having those numbers. Ahh, good ol' bitter Corch. Sees a shitload of awesome numbers, but still manages to wheedle out the one likely negative from the list while ignoring the entire bottle of Awesomesauce. Did Unionstation hack your account? |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Aug 26, 2019 9:53:06 GMT -6
The stats are mostly great, but those SB numbers fail. LMAO, you're going to SUCK when you're 70, Corch Jr. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Aug 26, 2019 9:55:02 GMT -6
The stats are mostly great, but those SB numbers fail. LMAO, you're going to SUCK when you're 70, Corch Jr. Hey wassamattayou? You no agree? |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Aug 26, 2019 9:56:32 GMT -6
I don't care about stolen bases. I'd settle for some hit and run baseball, though.
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Post by blcoach8 on Aug 26, 2019 9:57:25 GMT -6
I wouldn't count on Correa having those numbers. Ahh, good ol' bitter Corch. Sees a shitload of awesome numbers, but still manages to wheedle out the one likely negative from the list while ignoring the entire bottle of Awesomesauce. Did Unionstation hack your account? I am not sure why not belieiving Correa can finish with those numbers makes me "bitter". Excuse me for not oohing and aahing over those numbers. I assumed everyone would realize how good they are without me needing to point it out. It will be diffiicult for Coree to improve on his current numbers until his vacation ends and he returns to the lineup. Do you really think it is realistic for Correa to be expected to have those numbers? |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Aug 26, 2019 10:34:40 GMT -6
Ahh, good ol' bitter Corch. Sees a shitload of awesome numbers, but still manages to wheedle out the one likely negative from the list while ignoring the entire bottle of Awesomesauce. Did Unionstation hack your account? I am not sure why not belieiving Correa can finish with those numbers makes me "bitter". Excuse me for not oohing and aahing over those numbers. I assumed everyone would realize how good they are without me needing to point it out. It will be diffiicult for Coree to improve on his current numbers until his vacation ends and he returns to the lineup. Do you really think it is realistic for Correa to be expected to have those numbers? "everyone would realize how good they are without (you) needing to point it out" but "everyone would not realize how bad Correa is without (you) needing to point it out"? My point is that you have a tendency to focus exclusively on the negatives and ignore the whole frigging list of positives. Well, except when it comes to the worst player in baseball. |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Aug 26, 2019 10:35:33 GMT -6
Ahh, good ol' bitter Corch. Sees a shitload of awesome numbers, but still manages to wheedle out the one likely negative from the list while ignoring the entire bottle of Awesomesauce. Did Unionstation hack your account? Do you really think it is realistic for Correa to be expected to have those numbers? Only if his nuts drop and he quits being a pantywaist. |
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Post by Saint on Aug 26, 2019 10:39:11 GMT -6
Correa likely won't hit those marks if he doesn't come back soon, but the fact that he was on pace for them even with all the missed time is pretty impressive. I know we get frustrated with his health, but the guy produces when he's on the field.
As for the stolen bases, I wish we ran more too (especially Altuve), but that is mostly a thing of the past. There will be fewer and fewer attempts, especially if the power numbers stay high. If the HR numbers dip again (balls returning to normal, or whatever), we'll probably see more attempts.
And I agree with more Hit & Runs. We don't utilize that nearly enough with hitters like Altuve and Yuli.
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Post by blcoach8 on Aug 26, 2019 11:15:21 GMT -6
I am not sure why not belieiving Correa can finish with those numbers makes me "bitter". Excuse me for not oohing and aahing over those numbers. I assumed everyone would realize how good they are without me needing to point it out. It will be diffiicult for Coree to improve on his current numbers until his vacation ends and he returns to the lineup. Do you really think it is realistic for Correa to be expected to have those numbers? "everyone would realize how good they are without (you) needing to point it out" but "everyone would not realize how bad Correa is without (you) needing to point it out"? My point is that you have a tendency to focus exclusively on the negatives and ignore the whole frigging list of positives. Well, except when it comes to the worst player in baseball. Well, I see you could not keep from taking another shot at a guy who is nowhere near the "worst player in baseball". Whatever his weaknesses may be, Marisnick plays when he is called upon and gives 100%. He doesn't take annual in-season vacations due to issues and cracked ribs that he lied about as to how he got them. Marisnick can be counted on to show up and give total effort while little Carlos can be counted on to do a disappearing act during a pennant drive. He was doing great since returning from his rib injury......come back from a road trip where nothing was mentioned about a sore back,. and, as soon as he returns home, he has another "issue". Excuse me for saying this bullshit is getting old. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Aug 26, 2019 11:17:43 GMT -6
Do you really think it is realistic for Correa to be expected to have those numbers? Only if his nuts drop and he quits being a pantywaist. Sadly, he has shown no signs of ceasing to be a pantywaist. It's time for him to man up and stop being a wimp. |
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Post by Saint on Aug 26, 2019 11:25:06 GMT -6
I have mixed feelings on it. On one hand, you like to see guys be tough and play through the pain, etc. But as somebody who did that in high school into college, only to completely ruin my shoulder forever and end any chances of anything further, I also see the importance in being prudent.
I'd rather have him perform this offseason rather than risk worse injury, us win another WS, and then trade him in the offseason while his stock is high.
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Post by unionstation82 on Aug 26, 2019 12:11:07 GMT -6
I don't care about stolen bases. I'd settle for some hit and run baseball, though. I’ll take either. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Aug 26, 2019 12:13:06 GMT -6
Only if his nuts drop and he quits being a pantywaist. Sadly, he has shown no signs of ceasing to be a pantywaist. It's time for him to man up and stop being a wimp. Correa was a badass his rookie year. It’s the only season I’ve seen him step up and say, “This is my team. I’ll carry us as far as I can.” |
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Post by blcoach8 on Aug 26, 2019 14:31:19 GMT -6
I have mixed feelings on it. On one hand, you like to see guys be tough and play through the pain, etc. But as somebody who did that in high school into college, only to completely ruin my shoulder forever and end any chances of anything further, I also see the importance in being prudent. I'd rather have him perform this offseason rather than risk worse injury, us win another WS, and then trade him in the offseason while his stock is high. Cprrea was useless after his return last season. Unless I misunderstood, the MRI showed no structural damage and he may not be out as long as feared. We don't need another performance like we got from him in Sept and the playoffs last year. Count me as one who wants to trade him and spend money trying to re-sign Cole and extend Springer. We should be able to get a good return for Correa. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Aug 26, 2019 14:33:21 GMT -6
Sadly, he has shown no signs of ceasing to be a pantywaist. It's time for him to man up and stop being a wimp. Correa was a badass his rookie year. It’s the only season I’ve seen him step up and say, “This is my team. I’ll carry us as far as I can.” I don't care what anyone argues against it......these "issues" began after he hooked up with his "fiance". She is a major cause of his problems. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Aug 26, 2019 14:36:24 GMT -6
I have mixed feelings on it. On one hand, you like to see guys be tough and play through the pain, etc. But as somebody who did that in high school into college, only to completely ruin my shoulder forever and end any chances of anything further, I also see the importance in being prudent. I'd rather have him perform this offseason rather than risk worse injury, us win another WS, and then trade him in the offseason while his stock is high. Cprrea was useless after his return last season. Unless I misunderstood, the MRI showed no structural damage and he may not be out as long as feared. We don't need another performance like we got from him in Sept and the playoffs last year. Count me as one who wants to trade him and spend money trying to re-sign Cole and extend Springer. We should be able to get a good return for Correa. If we can great value for Correa, and allows the Astros to re-sign Cole and extend Springer, then heck yeah....FTR - Correa is no slouch, he has upper/elite level talent/ceiling....If traded, and when not on the IL, when you see highlights of him just mashing it or defensive gems, you're going to miss him.... And that goes for everyone here. |
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Post by Saint on Aug 26, 2019 14:41:19 GMT -6
I have mixed feelings on it. On one hand, you like to see guys be tough and play through the pain, etc. But as somebody who did that in high school into college, only to completely ruin my shoulder forever and end any chances of anything further, I also see the importance in being prudent. I'd rather have him perform this offseason rather than risk worse injury, us win another WS, and then trade him in the offseason while his stock is high. Cprrea was useless after his return last season. Unless I misunderstood, the MRI showed no structural damage and he may not be out as long as feared. We don't need another performance like we got from him in Sept and the playoffs last year. Count me as one who wants to trade him and spend money trying to re-sign Cole and extend Springer. We should be able to get a good return for Correa. He was actually pretty good in the ALCS last year (.316 with a .409 OBP), he just didn't show a lot of power. "Count me as one who wants to trade him and spend money trying to re-sign Cole and extend Springer. We should be able to get a good return for Correa." Absolutely agree. |
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Post by Saint on Aug 26, 2019 14:43:23 GMT -6
Cprrea was useless after his return last season. Unless I misunderstood, the MRI showed no structural damage and he may not be out as long as feared. We don't need another performance like we got from him in Sept and the playoffs last year. Count me as one who wants to trade him and spend money trying to re-sign Cole and extend Springer. We should be able to get a good return for Correa. If we can great value for Correa, and allows the Astros to re-sign Cole and extend Springer, then heck yeah....FTR - Correa is no slouch, he has upper/elite level talent/ceiling....If traded, and when not on the IL, when you see highlights of him just mashing it or defensive gems, you're going to miss him.... And that goes for everyone here. Yeah, but I don't think it will matter since we'll lose him in free agency anyways. If we can get another WS out of him this year, I'd be be totally fine with trading him while his value is high for some MLB-ready talent at Catcher or pitching help. Heck, maybe even OF since we don't have Reddick, Brantley, or Springer past next year for sure. |
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Post by Saint on Aug 26, 2019 14:45:57 GMT -6
Another thing on the steals, it's a shame Correa doesn't run more. He has a career 80% success rate. I guess it brings the injury risk down if he isn't running/sliding more....
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Post by blcoach8 on Aug 26, 2019 14:50:23 GMT -6
Cprrea was useless after his return last season. Unless I misunderstood, the MRI showed no structural damage and he may not be out as long as feared. We don't need another performance like we got from him in Sept and the playoffs last year. Count me as one who wants to trade him and spend money trying to re-sign Cole and extend Springer. We should be able to get a good return for Correa. If we can great value for Correa, and allows the Astros to re-sign Cole and extend Springer, then heck yeah....FTR - Correa is no slouch, he has upper/elite level talent/ceiling....If traded, and when not on the IL, when you see highlights of him just mashing it or defensive gems, you're going to miss him.... And that goes for everyone here. agreed.....I am not suggesting trading Correa because I want to........I never expected him to keep on having his problems.........whatever the causes may be......every season and missing a large chunk of the schedule because of them. If he showed he could stiop having his issues and produce like we have seen him in the past and before his issues re-occurred this season., I would say don't trade him. As things stand now,. dealing him so we can have money for Cole and Springer makes sense. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Aug 26, 2019 14:56:16 GMT -6
If we can great value for Correa, and allows the Astros to re-sign Cole and extend Springer, then heck yeah....FTR - Correa is no slouch, he has upper/elite level talent/ceiling....If traded, and when not on the IL, when you see highlights of him just mashing it or defensive gems, you're going to miss him.... And that goes for everyone here. Yeah, but I don't think it will matter since we'll lose him in free agency anyways. If we can get another WS out of him this year, I'd be be totally fine with trading him while his value is high for some MLB-ready talent at Catcher or pitching help. Heck, maybe even OF since we don't have Reddick, Brantley, or Springer past next year for sure. I am firmly convinced we can't re-sign him if we keep him. So, go ahead and deal him at the end of this season and re-sign Cole and extend Springer. We can move Bregman to SS if needed. We may could get a quality SS or third baseman in a deal for him. I think we could improve our pitching in a deal for him. If we can re-sign Cole, we have him, Verlander, and Greinke under control. I'd make a good offer for Miley, too. If McCullers returns and can step in and start,we have a solid rotation...in fact, it could be the best in the game. I would think McCullers would be limited coming off Tommy John surgery. I like what I see from Toro......he may be a keeper and could lessen the blow if we deal Correa. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2019 14:58:24 GMT -6
I don't care about stolen bases. I'd settle for some hit and run baseball, though. I agree. It's obvious the Astros have devalued the SB this year. If it was a matter of speed then why doesn't Straw have something like 20 SB already? One of the fastest guys in the league has only 7 SB despite being on base 40 times and countless times as a pinch runner.
One theory with him though is that he's so fast that he's in scoring position at first base.
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Post by blcoach8 on Aug 26, 2019 15:01:28 GMT -6
I don't care about stolen bases. I'd settle for some hit and run baseball, though. I agree. It's obvious the Astros have devalued the SB this year. If it was a matter of speed then why doesn't Straw have something like 20 SB already? One of the fastest guys in the league has only 7 SB despite being on base 40 times and countless times as a pinch runner.
One theory with him though is that he's so fast that he's in scoring position at first base.
Hinch's clipboard discourages the steal, hit and run, and bunting most of the time. |
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Post by Saint on Aug 26, 2019 15:01:50 GMT -6
Team Offensive Stats:
13th in Steals, but below average at only 69% success rate (20th out of 30).
25th in Sac. Hits
1st in Sac. Flies (Nice!)
2nd in Walks (Nice!)
1st in SO (Nice!)
2nd in GDP (Not nice...)
29th in Pinch Hitter AVG (Not nice...)
2nd in OPS (Nice!)
2nd in AVG (Nice!)
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Post by blcoach8 on Aug 26, 2019 15:17:26 GMT -6
Team Offensive Stats: 13th in Steals, but below average at only 69% success rate (20th out of 30). 25th in Sac. Hits 1st in Sac. Flies (Nice!) 2nd in Walks (Nice!) 1st in SO (Nice!) 2nd in GDP (Not nice...) 29th in Pinch Hitter AVG (Not nice...) 2nd in OPS (Nice!) 2nd in AVG (Nice!) GDP's will stay elevated as long as we refuse to use the hit and runk, bunt, or steal. Plus, we have guys who hit weak ground balls trying to pull every pitch. Our pinch hitting is terrible because we don't normally have a decent bitter on the bench to use since we think we need 13 pitchers. |
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Post by Saint on Aug 26, 2019 15:21:36 GMT -6
Team Offensive Stats: 13th in Steals, but below average at only 69% success rate (20th out of 30). 25th in Sac. Hits 1st in Sac. Flies (Nice!) 2nd in Walks (Nice!) 1st in SO (Nice!) 2nd in GDP (Not nice...) 29th in Pinch Hitter AVG (Not nice...) 2nd in OPS (Nice!) 2nd in AVG (Nice!) GDP's will stay elevated as long as we refuse to use the hit and runk, bunt, or steal. Plus, we have guys who hit weak ground balls trying to pull every pitch. Our pinch hitting is terrible because we don't normally have a decent bitter on the bench to use since we think we need 13 pitchers. It's hard to complain too much when we're also 4th in Runs Scored, 1st in OBP, and 2nd in Hits. You get a lot of guys on base and don't strike out much and you're going to hit into some double plays. But, I don't think any of us want to go back to the days of Chris Carter and a billion strikeouts. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Aug 26, 2019 15:41:19 GMT -6
GDP's will stay elevated as long as we refuse to use the hit and runk, bunt, or steal. Plus, we have guys who hit weak ground balls trying to pull every pitch. Our pinch hitting is terrible because we don't normally have a decent bitter on the bench to use since we think we need 13 pitchers. It's hard to complain too much when we're also 4th in Runs Scored, 1st in OBP, and 2nd in Hits. You get a lot of guys on base and don't strike out much and you're going to hit into some double plays. But, I don't think any of us want to go back to the days of Chris Carter and a billion strikeouts. I would like to see the hit and run used since we have so many guys who don't strike out a lot. |
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