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Post by Saint on Sept 13, 2019 10:18:11 GMT -6
Yeah he was shaky with his command in the first two innings whcih got his pitch count up, and he had bad luck with that bloop double. The HR was really the only bad thing he did. He may not have deserved to win, but he didn't deserve to lose. I don’t get why they don’t force Olson to have to go opposite field. If you go inside on him, you’d better make sure it’s way in on the hands. Also, that strikeout call on Yuli last night was bullshit. Olson is a heck of a player. If the A's can get another good starting pitcher or two, they could easily be just as good as us next year. They have a great core of young/prime players.
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Post by Saint on Sept 22, 2019 16:20:30 GMT -6
Win #20 for JV. If the no-hitter didn't do it, surely this has.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2019 16:30:53 GMT -6
I don’t get why they don’t force Olson to have to go opposite field. If you go inside on him, you’d better make sure it’s way in on the hands. Also, that strikeout call on Yuli last night was bullshit. Olson is a heck of a player. If the A's can get another good starting pitcher or two, they could easily be just as good as us next year. They have a great core of young/prime players. There lies the problem. The A's will not spend to get a legit starter. They are happy with being above average, banking money and not winning the ring.
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Post by unionstation82 on Sept 22, 2019 16:52:53 GMT -6
Win #20 for JV. If the no-hitter didn't do it, surely this has. I think it’s done.
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Post by olpapa on Sept 25, 2019 8:55:16 GMT -6
Me thinks CY race is tightening up. Cole now has a slightly lower ERA and has more K’s than JV. JV has the better WHIP, 20 wins and the no-hitter. If JV has an off game in his last start and Cole dominates and picks up his 20th win in his last start, he could get the nod for the CY over JV.
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Post by thomasj13 on Sept 25, 2019 8:56:49 GMT -6
Me thinks CY race is tightening up. Cole now has a slightly lower ERA and has more K’s than JV. JV has the better WHIP, 20 wins and the no-hitter. If JV has an off game in his last start and Cole dominates and picks up his 20th win in his last start, he could get the nod for the CY over JV. Just need collusion amongst the voters - Co-CYs
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Post by olpapa on Sept 25, 2019 8:59:07 GMT -6
Me thinks CY race is tightening up. Cole now has a slightly lower ERA and has more K’s than JV. JV has the better WHIP, 20 wins and the no-hitter. If JV has an off game in his last start and Cole dominates and picks up his 20th win in his last start, he could get the nod for the CY over JV. Just need collusion amongst the voters - Co-CYs That would be appropriate.
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Post by Saint on Sept 25, 2019 9:23:43 GMT -6
Yeah, this award is going down to the last game, and Cole is the one that's currently hotter. Right now I'd say it's completely even.
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Post by blcoach8 on Sept 25, 2019 9:28:34 GMT -6
Yeah, this award is going down to the last game, and Cole is the one that's currently hotter. Right now I'd say it's completely even. If it can be done, they should be co-Cy Young winners.
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Post by Saint on Sept 25, 2019 9:48:44 GMT -6
I like that idea but it won't happen.
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Post by unionstation82 on Sept 25, 2019 9:57:01 GMT -6
Isn't having co-CYA winners kind of a slight to both guys?
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Post by bearbryant on Sept 25, 2019 10:01:50 GMT -6
Isn't having co-CYA winners kind of a slight to both guys? It can happen since it is a vote. In 1979 Willie Stargell and Keith Hernandez were co-MVPs NL
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Post by unionstation82 on Sept 25, 2019 10:03:13 GMT -6
Isn't having co-CYA winners kind of a slight to both guys? It can happen since it is a vote. In 1979 Willie Stargell and Keith Hernandez were co-MVPs NLMan, when I was a kid, everyone had a kickass mustache.
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Post by Saint on Sept 25, 2019 10:15:33 GMT -6
Isn't having co-CYA winners kind of a slight to both guys? Not when they're far and away the best pitchers and so ridiculously close.
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Post by bearbryant on Sept 25, 2019 10:17:40 GMT -6
It can happen since it is a vote. In 1979 Willie Stargell and Keith Hernandez were co-MVPs NL Man, when I was a kid, everyone had a kickass mustache. and Roger McDowell was the second spitter
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Post by thomasj13 on Sept 25, 2019 11:09:20 GMT -6
It can happen since it is a vote. In 1979 Willie Stargell and Keith Hernandez were co-MVPs NL Man, when I was a kid, everyone had a kickass mustache. Boogie Night days.
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Post by bearbryant on Sept 25, 2019 14:02:20 GMT -6
Man, when I was a kid, everyone had a kickass mustache. Boogie Night days. Seems like Will Ferrell shoulda been in that since it had Mark Wahlberg and John C. Reilly
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2019 14:03:25 GMT -6
It can happen since it is a vote. In 1979 Willie Stargell and Keith Hernandez were co-MVPs NL Man, when I was a kid, everyone had a kickass mustache. Huh? Some of us never left the '70's behind.
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Post by blcoach8 on Sept 25, 2019 14:21:37 GMT -6
Isn't having co-CYA winners kind of a slight to both guys? Not when they're far and away the best pitchers and so ridiculously close. exactly. There is virtually no difference in them so a co-Cy Young is in order, but, I don't think it will happen.
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Post by unionstation82 on Sept 25, 2019 14:31:02 GMT -6
I’m just thinking about the NFL and how lame it was when Peyton and McNair both won the MVP.
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Post by koolade2 on Sept 25, 2019 14:50:23 GMT -6
I’m just thinking about the NFL and how lame it was when Peyton and McNair both won the MVP. They were on Different Teams not even close to the same thing. So of the Two do you insult. I bet in the last 25 + years there hasn't been two this close on the same team and worlds better than all the rest on other teams including the Astros.
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Post by unionstation82 on Sept 25, 2019 15:02:09 GMT -6
I’m just thinking about the NFL and how lame it was when Peyton and McNair both won the MVP. They were on Different Teams not even close to the same thing. So of the Two do you insult. I bet in the last 25 + years there hasn't been two this close on the same team and worlds better than all the rest on other teams including the Astros. If Cole wins his next game, I think he takes the Cy Young from Verlander.
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Post by blcoach8 on Sept 25, 2019 15:09:39 GMT -6
They were on Different Teams not even close to the same thing. So of the Two do you insult. I bet in the last 25 + years there hasn't been two this close on the same team and worlds better than all the rest on other teams including the Astros. If Cole wins his next game, I think he takes the Cy Young from Verlander. What if both wins his next game? I still think the no-hitter gives Verlander an edge unless Cole's strikeouts are a deciding factor. If I knew winning the Cy Young would get Cole to re-sign with us, I'd try to bribe the media to vote for him.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2019 15:26:57 GMT -6
If Cole wins his next game, I think he takes the Cy Young from Verlander. What if both wins his next game? I still think the no-hitter gives Verlander an edge unless Cole's strikeouts are a deciding factor. If I knew winning the Cy Young would get Cole to re-sign with us, I'd try to bribe the media to vote for him. Maybe kind of strange that I don't care which of the 2 win it. As long as an Astro wins it, that's all that matters to me.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2019 15:36:57 GMT -6
I wonder if winning the Cy Young will hurt our chances of resigning him or if it wouldn't make a difference. I vote for whatever needs to happen for him to be cheaper and stay in Houston. He can win it next year then
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Post by thomasj13 on Sept 25, 2019 15:38:54 GMT -6
What if both wins his next game? I still think the no-hitter gives Verlander an edge unless Cole's strikeouts are a deciding factor. If I knew winning the Cy Young would get Cole to re-sign with us, I'd try to bribe the media to vote for him. Maybe kind of strange that I don't care which of the 2 win it. As long as an Astro wins it, that's all that matters to me. One we know for sure will be an Astro next year....the other, only the few, myself included, believe will be here 2020.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2019 15:40:57 GMT -6
Ugh, what I've been doing today.
Future son in law wrecked his brand new 2020 Toyota worth $23k (and when I say wrecked I mean it's FUBAR) and the insurance company only wants to pay $19.5 for it. That pays off the remaining loan amount but the $4k he put down is toast. Expensive lesson for falling asleep behind the wheel.
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Sept 25, 2019 15:44:15 GMT -6
If Cole wins his next game, I think he takes the Cy Young from Verlander. What if both wins his next game? I still think the no-hitter gives Verlander an edge unless Cole's strikeouts are a deciding factor. If I knew winning the Cy Young would get Cole to re-sign with us, I'd try to bribe the media to vote for him. I think it's the opposite. Him winning the CYA would make it more difficult for us to sign him (as it will surely raise his price)
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Post by blcoach8 on Sept 25, 2019 15:45:49 GMT -6
What if both wins his next game? I still think the no-hitter gives Verlander an edge unless Cole's strikeouts are a deciding factor. If I knew winning the Cy Young would get Cole to re-sign with us, I'd try to bribe the media to vote for him. Maybe kind of strange that I don't care which of the 2 win it. As long as an Astro wins it, that's all that matters to me. I have no preference......both deserve it. My main concern is getting Cole to re-sign with us.
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Post by blcoach8 on Sept 25, 2019 15:49:26 GMT -6
Maybe kind of strange that I don't care which of the 2 win it. As long as an Astro wins it, that's all that matters to me. One we know for sure will be an Astro next year....the other, only the few, myself included, believe will be here 2020. Count me as one of the few who believes we keep him and I think we can get him for less than some think. Verlander money gets him. He knows that Strom has belped him get where he is and I think that, plus being on a winner with a good clubhouse helps sway him.
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