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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2019 18:26:29 GMT -6
This actually sucks. I'm going to the game Sept 28th in Anaheim and that's the one game where it's open for another starter. No Verlander (although saw him in the World Series), no Cole and no Greinke. Not even Miley. Probably will be stuck with Framber Jayfree, I just looked on mlb.com at the schedule for the remaining games and the probable starters of those games. Mlb.com has Urquidy listed as our probable starter for the game on Friday the 27th with the starters for the 28th and 29th TBD. If Verlander stays on his every-fifth-day routine he would start on the 27th and then go 7 days before starting game #1 of the ALDS on October 4th. Cole is due to start on the 24th and, if he stays on his every-fifth-day routine, would start on the 29th and then go 6 days before starting game #2 of the ALDS on October 5th. It could be that Luhnow/Hinch have decided that they would rather not have JV going 7 days between his final regular season start and game #1 of the ALDS and have decided they would rather start him on the 28th... the 6th day since his last start... and again 6 days later on October 4th in game #1 of the ALDS. In that case the open game for another starter would be on Friday the 27th, rather than Saturday the 28th, which would explain Urquidy being listed as the probable starter on the 27th by mlb.com. Maybe you will get lucky and JV will start the game you are attending on the 28th. That would be awesome. Perhaps I see his 3000th K |
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Post by olpapa on Sept 22, 2019 18:36:18 GMT -6
Jayfree, I just looked on mlb.com at the schedule for the remaining games and the probable starters of those games. Mlb.com has Urquidy listed as our probable starter for the game on Friday the 27th with the starters for the 28th and 29th TBD. If Verlander stays on his every-fifth-day routine he would start on the 27th and then go 7 days before starting game #1 of the ALDS on October 4th. Cole is due to start on the 24th and, if he stays on his every-fifth-day routine, would start on the 29th and then go 6 days before starting game #2 of the ALDS on October 5th. It could be that Luhnow/Hinch have decided that they would rather not have JV going 7 days between his final regular season start and game #1 of the ALDS and have decided they would rather start him on the 28th... the 6th day since his last start... and again 6 days later on October 4th in game #1 of the ALDS. In that case the open game for another starter would be on Friday the 27th, rather than Saturday the 28th, which would explain Urquidy being listed as the probable starter on the 27th by mlb.com. Maybe you will get lucky and JV will start the game you are attending on the 28th. That would be awesome. Perhaps I see his 3000th K Maybe you will. I hope so. I know I have read that JV is a stickler for staying on a consistent routine. He is accustomed to pitching every fifth day. I could see him preferring going 6 days between each of his next 2 starts, rather than going 5 days and then 7 days between his next 2 starts. |
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Post by Saint on Sept 22, 2019 19:43:21 GMT -6
Jayfree, I just looked on mlb.com at the schedule for the remaining games and the probable starters of those games. Mlb.com has Urquidy listed as our probable starter for the game on Friday the 27th with the starters for the 28th and 29th TBD. If Verlander stays on his every-fifth-day routine he would start on the 27th and then go 7 days before starting game #1 of the ALDS on October 4th. Cole is due to start on the 24th and, if he stays on his every-fifth-day routine, would start on the 29th and then go 6 days before starting game #2 of the ALDS on October 5th. It could be that Luhnow/Hinch have decided that they would rather not have JV going 7 days between his final regular season start and game #1 of the ALDS and have decided they would rather start him on the 28th... the 6th day since his last start... and again 6 days later on October 4th in game #1 of the ALDS. In that case the open game for another starter would be on Friday the 27th, rather than Saturday the 28th, which would explain Urquidy being listed as the probable starter on the 27th by mlb.com. Maybe you will get lucky and JV will start the game you are attending on the 28th. That would be awesome. Perhaps I see his 3000th K If you do and are able to get an extra ticket, I will buy it from you! |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Sept 22, 2019 20:43:01 GMT -6
That would be awesome. Perhaps I see his 3000th K If you do and are able to get an extra ticket, I will buy it from you! Aren't those games in LA? |
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Post by Saint on Sept 23, 2019 5:50:12 GMT -6
If you do and are able to get an extra ticket, I will buy it from you! Aren't those games in LA? Yes. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Sept 23, 2019 7:41:24 GMT -6
Please, God, let JV get 12 more strikeouts.
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Sept 23, 2019 8:15:44 GMT -6
Aren't those games in LA? Yes. Oh, you're just wanting the stub? (TIWSS) |
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Post by Saint on Sept 23, 2019 8:33:35 GMT -6
Oh, you're just wanting the stub? (TIWSS) I love the stub. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Sept 23, 2019 11:19:38 GMT -6
Oh, you're just wanting the stub? (TIWSS) I love the stub. fitting, you did play catcher. |
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Post by batman007 on Sept 23, 2019 12:56:11 GMT -6
fitting, you did play catcher. I’ve heard he still catches from time to time. |
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Post by Saint on Sept 23, 2019 13:11:02 GMT -6
fitting, you did play catcher. I’ve heard he still catches from time to time. You're going to be catching deez nuts. |
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Post by marshall on Sept 23, 2019 14:41:05 GMT -6
There are two thinks that lead the list of desires of those seeking their big first contract. One is AAV to indicate thier [lace on the pecking order of most valuable players. The other is financial security. Most of the time, maximizing one reduces the other. In other words, he can expect a $40M one year deal to get to the highest AAV or he can maximize his Financial security by signing a long term deal for less AAV.
After reductions for deferred money, Verlanders $32M/yr is now the standard for AAV. Kershaw had the highest Total Contract at $214M, but opted out before it's conclusion. He now becomes a FA in 2022. I think this is significant for the Astros to consider.
Cole will probably get both. A 7 year $33M/yr deal is probably close to what he'll get, but it may contain opt outs similar to Kershaw.
I'd personally like to see extensions every year for as long as Verlander is effective for as long as he wants. I wouldn't mind the same for other stars. So at seasons end, extend Verlander and Greinke for the 2022 season. We go into each season with 3 years of control and give the player security. If there is a down year, we can put off the extension and go for 2 the next season if the off season is an aberration. The player gets some security and the team get's partial relief if there are three consecutive seasons of under performance.
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Post by olpapa on Sept 26, 2019 8:00:04 GMT -6
Jayfree, I just looked on mlb.com at the schedule for the remaining games and the probable starters of those games. Mlb.com has Urquidy listed as our probable starter for the game on Friday the 27th with the starters for the 28th and 29th TBD. If Verlander stays on his every-fifth-day routine he would start on the 27th and then go 7 days before starting game #1 of the ALDS on October 4th. Cole is due to start on the 24th and, if he stays on his every-fifth-day routine, would start on the 29th and then go 6 days before starting game #2 of the ALDS on October 5th. It could be that Luhnow/Hinch have decided that they would rather not have JV going 7 days between his final regular season start and game #1 of the ALDS and have decided they would rather start him on the 28th... the 6th day since his last start... and again 6 days later on October 4th in game #1 of the ALDS. In that case the open game for another starter would be on Friday the 27th, rather than Saturday the 28th, which would explain Urquidy being listed as the probable starter on the 27th by mlb.com. Maybe you will get lucky and JV will start the game you are attending on the 28th. That would be awesome. Perhaps I see his 3000th K Just checked the schedule at MLB.com. Verlander is; in fact, now listed as the probable starter for the game on Saturday the 28th. Congratulations! |
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Post by unionstation82 on Sept 26, 2019 8:12:04 GMT -6
That would be awesome. Perhaps I see his 3000th K Just checked the schedule at MLB.com. Verlander is; in fact, now listed as the probable starter for the game on Saturday the 28th. Congratulations! Twelve K’s gets Verlander the Cy Young. Getting six would be great, though. Cole is making a strong push and has one more start the day after JV. |
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Post by Saint on Sept 26, 2019 8:31:39 GMT -6
Just checked the schedule at MLB.com. Verlander is; in fact, now listed as the probable starter for the game on Saturday the 28th. Congratulations! Twelve K’s gets Verlander the Cy Young. Getting six would be great, though. Cole is making a strong push and has one more start the day after JV. I think whomever wins the ERA title wins the CY. |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Sept 26, 2019 13:00:44 GMT -6
I'm pulling for Cole as CYA winner. JV has had enough.
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Post by Saint on Sept 26, 2019 13:11:13 GMT -6
Not me. JV has deserved at least one more if not two. I want to see him get this last one. Cole has another decade to win one. Plus he likely won't be an Astro next year.
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Post by olpapa on Sept 26, 2019 14:12:56 GMT -6
Twelve K’s gets Verlander the Cy Young. Getting six would be great, though. Cole is making a strong push and has one more start the day after JV. I think whomever wins the ERA title wins the CY. I think if they both have good outings in their final start and end up with ERA’s that are as close as they are now, the no-hitter gives JV the edge. If JV struggles and Cole dominates again, I think Cole gets the CY. Is this a great time to be an Astros fan or what? Here we are speculating over which of our starters wins the CY because nobody else is close. |
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Post by Saint on Sept 26, 2019 14:24:50 GMT -6
I think whomever wins the ERA title wins the CY. I think if they both have good outings in their final start and end up with ERA’s that are as close as they are now, the no-hitter gives JV the edge. If JV struggles and Cole dominates again, I think Cole gets the CY. Is this a great time to be an Astros fan or what? Here we are speculating over which of our starters wins the CY because nobody else is close. Not to mention having the ROY who could very possibly be our first 50 HR hitter next year, and the potential MVP (who is locked up for 5 more years along with our AS 2B). Regardless of what happens in the postseason, we'll likely never see a team quite this good again. (Unless we can get Cole re-signed.) |
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Post by marshall on Sept 26, 2019 14:41:51 GMT -6
I'm pulling for Cole as CYA winner. JV has had enough. One? He's always in the running, but only closed the deal once. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Sept 26, 2019 15:04:15 GMT -6
I’m torn. I’m kind of rooting for Verlander, but he’s got an MVP. How many pitchers can say that?
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Post by abregmanfan on Sept 26, 2019 15:11:23 GMT -6
I think whomever wins the ERA title wins the CY. I think if they both have good outings in their final start and end up with ERA’s that are as close as they are now, the no-hitter gives JV the edge. If JV struggles and Cole dominates again, I think Cole gets the CY. Is this a great time to be an Astros fan or what? Here we are speculating over which of our starters wins the CY because nobody else is close. Good times indeed sir. |
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Post by abregmanfan on Sept 26, 2019 15:12:38 GMT -6
I think if they both have good outings in their final start and end up with ERA’s that are as close as they are now, the no-hitter gives JV the edge. If JV struggles and Cole dominates again, I think Cole gets the CY. Is this a great time to be an Astros fan or what? Here we are speculating over which of our starters wins the CY because nobody else is close. Not to mention having the ROY who could very possibly be our first 50 HR hitter next year, and the potential MVP (who is locked up for 5 more years along with our AS 2B). Regardless of what happens in the postseason, we'll likely never see a team quite this good again. (Unless we can get Cole re-signed.) What if we resign Kemp and then Vodoo trades him for Trout? World Serious Champs! |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2019 15:13:54 GMT -6
I think if they both have good outings in their final start and end up with ERA’s that are as close as they are now, the no-hitter gives JV the edge. If JV struggles and Cole dominates again, I think Cole gets the CY. Is this a great time to be an Astros fan or what? Here we are speculating over which of our starters wins the CY because nobody else is close. Good times indeed sir. Hopefully we'll say the same thing about the World Series MVP this year. |
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Post by bearbryant on Sept 26, 2019 15:28:22 GMT -6
Is this a great time to be an Astros fan or what? Here we are speculating over which of our starters wins the CY because nobody else is close. |
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Post by churchill on Oct 9, 2019 2:42:48 GMT -6
What uniform will Cole wear next season?
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Post by thomasj13 on Oct 9, 2019 5:29:42 GMT -6
What uniform will Cole wear next season? MLB one. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Oct 9, 2019 9:33:40 GMT -6
Is this a great time to be an Astros fan or what? Here we are speculating over which of our starters wins the CY because nobody else is close. Hinch needs to tell the offense to “sweep the leg”. |
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Post by bearbryant on Oct 9, 2019 14:17:16 GMT -6
We are the Cobra Kai of the All Valley Hinch needs to tell the offense to “sweep the leg”. |
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Post by olpapa on Oct 23, 2019 22:09:11 GMT -6
Folks, I’ve gotta tell you. No way will Cole be back with the Astros next season. It is going to take a 6-7 year deal with an AAV in the $35 million range to sign him. Crane/Luhnow are not going to (nor should they) invest that kind of money in an ace when they are already committed to JV and Greinke to the tune of a combined $60 million per year+/- while they have a group of position players who pad their numbers against the scrubs, but struggle to score runs against decent pitchers.
Let the re-tooling begin.
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