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Post by unionstation82 on Sept 24, 2019 14:56:05 GMT -6
Vote and explain your reasoning.
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Post by Saint on Sept 24, 2019 14:59:22 GMT -6
They respect them enough. They're going to show the teams, stories, and players that their customers are most interested in. The Astros, as good as they are, are still not the Yankees, Red Sox, Cubs, or Dodgers. If they continue to win and get more popular, they'll get more attention. They've come a long ways in the last few years compared to what they used to be. As good as Bagwell and Biggio were, they weren't household names the way some of our guys are now.
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Sept 24, 2019 15:04:39 GMT -6
They don't, but it's irrelevant. The national media (not individual reporters/writers...the conglomerates) only care about who will draw the most viewers/readers (Sox vs. NYY). Individual writers, though, are often complimentary of certain aspects of the Astros. (Altuve, Bregman)
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Post by unionstation82 on Sept 24, 2019 15:31:44 GMT -6
I think the lack of respect is a myth. Most fans just love having an imaginary enemy because it feels great when “the world is against you”.
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Post by blcoach8 on Sept 24, 2019 16:06:30 GMT -6
HELL NO. The media pulled against us in 2017 and are doing the same thing now. They want a Yankees-Dodgers WS for TV ratings.
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Post by Saint on Sept 24, 2019 16:13:31 GMT -6
It was predictable who would say otherwise...
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2019 18:15:54 GMT -6
Of course they don't respect us. I've wanted to think differently, but there's too much evidence otherwise. I remember clearly last year after we were eliminated by Boston in the ALCS, on Bill Hemmer on Fox New was announcing that the Red Sox and the Dodgers would be going to the World Series. It may have been my disappointment that perceived a smirk on his face, but his words did give him away. He was all smiles as he stacked his papers and commented about what a good thing it was that the World Series would be between the East Coast and the West Coast. I knew of that mindset before that comment, but that cemented it for me. Regarding whether it matters or not, I have a hard time keeping at bay thoughts that certain calls made by the umps, particularly toward the end of the season, are with "certain outcomes" in mind. There was that awful call on Altuve at home plate in Fenway. And none of us will forget how Joe West cheated Altuve of his home run in the ALCS game at Minute Maid. New York couldn't (wouldn't) see the error of these atrocious calls, but I did. I slow-motioned their slow-motion playbacks just to make sure I wasn't seeing with my heart instead of my head. Those were very bad calls that came at crucial times for the Astros. No, I'm not over them. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2019 20:37:33 GMT -6
Vote and explain your reasoning. I've probably written a 100,000 words on our forums the past 20 years on this subject. No need to add another few hundred |
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Post by blcoach8 on Sept 24, 2019 23:15:58 GMT -6
It was predictable who would say otherwise... Yes and that is something else you are wrong about. |
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Post by koolade2 on Sept 25, 2019 4:48:23 GMT -6
Since I live in the NY area I see it first hand. Even when the Astros got the game ahead they barely mentioned that the Yankees were a game behind in HF.
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Post by unionstation82 on Sept 25, 2019 10:04:12 GMT -6
Since I live in the NY area I see it first hand. Even when the Astros got the game ahead they barely mentioned that the Yankees were a game behind in HF. They should talk about the Astros as much as we talk about the Yankees. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2019 11:43:09 GMT -6
It was predictable who would say otherwise... Did you predict how others would weigh in? Did your insult extend to all who voted that they don't respect the Stros, or was it a swipe at just one commenter? |
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Post by blcoach8 on Sept 25, 2019 14:24:11 GMT -6
It was predictable who would say otherwise... Did you predict how others would weigh in? Did your insult extend to all who voted that they don't respect the Stros, or was it a swipe at just one commenter? Hell will freeze over before Saint admits to being wrong about anything......He has a stat to prove it.  Without referring to OPS, WAR, etc, he is incapable of having an opinion., |
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Post by Saint on Sept 25, 2019 16:21:16 GMT -6
It was predictable who would say otherwise... Did you predict how others would weigh in? Did your insult extend to all who voted that they don't respect the Stros, or was it a swipe at just one commenter? One commenter. I don't know you yet to insult you.  |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2019 15:05:53 GMT -6
Vote and explain your reasoning. I've probably written a 100,000 words on our forums the past 20 years on this subject. No need to add another few hundred I haven't seen your previous comments. Can you tell me where I can find them? |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2019 15:26:13 GMT -6
Astros definitely don't get the respect they deserve. I take issue with whoever said it doesn't matter. Last night as TK was calling the game, he was telling the audience what the schedule will likely be for the next round of playoffs. Apparently Astros will be playing the day game on Friday and Yankees will have prime time. He recommended that those who want to watch Houston should plan to take Friday off. If I were still working, I'd be angry that I had to take a day of vacation to watch my team play. It matters. For those who haven't come to terms with it yet, we're flyover country -- not just politically and culturally, but in every way. We always will be. The wheels of power are on the coasts. Anything in between may be tolerated, but surely not elevated. www.sbnation.com/2011/10/5/2470744/new-york-yankees-mlb-playoffs-2011-albert-pujols-tvwww.si.com/extra-mustard/2018/10/05/mlb-tbs-yankees-red-sox-playoff-schedule-indians-astrosDid you predict how others would weigh in? Did your insult extend to all who voted that they don't respect the Stros, or was it a swipe at just one commenter? One commenter. I don't know you yet to insult you. I see. You weren't insulting his choice. Just him. I didn't see where you dissed the other 3 who believe the Astros aren't treated respectfully, so I guess you don't really have an issue with that. |
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Post by Saint on Sept 26, 2019 15:39:50 GMT -6
One commenter. I don't know you yet to insult you. I see. You weren't insulting his choice. Just him. I didn't see where you dissed the other 3 who believe the Astros aren't treated respectfully, so I guess you don't really have an issue with that. I disagree with the idea/belief that we're not treated respectfully. I think it gets blown out of proportion. It's going to be market based. If we continue to build a bigger market we'll get a bigger share of respect/coverage. As for dissing, I was only dissing one poster and he knows why. Although it wasn't really a "dis". More like a humorous slight. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Sept 26, 2019 15:42:21 GMT -6
Astros definitely don't get the respect they deserve. I take issue with whoever said it doesn't matter. Last night as TK was calling the game, he was telling the audience what the schedule will likely be for the next round of playoffs. Apparently Astros will be playing the day game on Friday and Yankees will have prime time. He recommended that those who want to watch Houston should plan to take Friday off. If I were still working, I'd be angry that I had to take a day of vacation to watch my team play. It matters. For those who haven't come to terms with it yet, we're flyover country -- not just politically and culturally, but in every way. We always will be. The wheels of power are on the coasts. Anything in between may be tolerated, but surely not elevated. www.sbnation.com/2011/10/5/2470744/new-york-yankees-mlb-playoffs-2011-albert-pujols-tvwww.si.com/extra-mustard/2018/10/05/mlb-tbs-yankees-red-sox-playoff-schedule-indians-astrosOne commenter. I don't know you yet to insult you. I see. You weren't insulting his choice. Just him. I didn't see where you dissed the other 3 who believe the Astros aren't treated respectfully, so I guess you don't really have an issue with that. He just likes disagreeing with me in hopes that he may eventually be right about something. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2019 15:57:26 GMT -6
I see. You weren't insulting his choice. Just him. I didn't see where you dissed the other 3 who believe the Astros aren't treated respectfully, so I guess you don't really have an issue with that. I disagree with the idea/belief that we're not treated respectfully. I think it gets blown out of proportion. It's going to be market based. If we continue to build a bigger market we'll get a bigger share of respect/coverage. As for dissing, I was only dissing one poster and he knows why. Although it wasn't really a "dis". More like a humorous slight. You need to get exposure so others can know that you deserve respect. I doubt there will be others across the country who will take off work to watch a day game. To me, it's somewhat analogous to getting the DJ to play your record. If the audience doesn't like it, fine. But they'll never know until they've gotten a chance to hear it. Okay, I'm getting the idea that you and blcoach8 like to needle each other. I'll back off and let you two go at it -- even though you're complete wrong on this one. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Sept 26, 2019 16:19:25 GMT -6
Yankees fans might respect the Astros, but they’ll never re2pect them like they do Jeter.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2019 16:31:51 GMT -6
I've probably written a 100,000 words on our forums the past 20 years on this subject. No need to add another few hundred I haven't seen your previous comments. Can you tell me where I can find them? This board is only about a year and a half old. The main core of us came from the old MLB boards (mlb.com) which were eliminated at about the same time without warning. This is where we most all migrated. 16 years of fun, history, and discussions.... all eliminated with one key stroke. Yeah, we are all still bitter. |
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Post by marshall on Sept 26, 2019 16:33:05 GMT -6
Begrudging respect rather than adulation.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2019 16:38:00 GMT -6
Begrudging respect rather than adulation. Reading NYY boards you would believe we all live in trailer parks, marry our cousins, and guzzle Lone Star by the gallon. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Sept 26, 2019 16:47:22 GMT -6
Begrudging respect rather than adulation. Reading NYY boards you would believe we all live in trailer parks, marry our cousins, and guzzle Lone Star by the gallon. Hey, nothing wrong with Lone Star. |
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Post by marshall on Sept 26, 2019 16:58:01 GMT -6
I think the lack of respect is a myth. Most fans just love having an imaginary enemy because it feels great when “the world is against you”. It's very real. But it's not just baseball.
They think flyover country is a space between their marvelous civilization filled with bumpkins.
That's fine with me since I can't stand that ignorant but arrogant attitude anyway. Loving NYC is like loving the outhouse that gets overturned after a rock concert in 110 degree weather.
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Sept 26, 2019 17:39:03 GMT -6
Reading NYY boards you would believe we all live in trailer parks, marry our cousins, and guzzle Lone Star by the gallon. Hey, nothing wrong with Lone Star. Or cousins! |
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Post by bearbryant on Sept 26, 2019 18:33:18 GMT -6
They respect them enough. They're going to show the teams, stories, and players that their customers are most interested in. The Astros, as good as they are, are still not the Yankees, Red Sox, Cubs, or Dodgers. If they continue to win and get more popular, they'll get more attention. They've come a long ways in the last few years compared to what they used to be. As good as Bagwell and Biggio were, they weren't household names the way some of our guys are now.
Everything I'm seeing says we are and the fans are the reason. Astro fans are at games on the road in cities at a clip I've never seen before on TV
And we're getting more games on national TV because of it too |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Sept 26, 2019 18:42:03 GMT -6
They respect them enough. They're going to show the teams, stories, and players that their customers are most interested in. The Astros, as good as they are, are still not the Yankees, Red Sox, Cubs, or Dodgers. If they continue to win and get more popular, they'll get more attention. They've come a long ways in the last few years compared to what they used to be. As good as Bagwell and Biggio were, they weren't household names the way some of our guys are now.
Everything I'm seeing says we are and the fans are the reason. Astro fans are at games on the road in cities at a clip I've never seen before on TV
And we're getting more games on national TV because of it tooAll disproven the minute they scheduled the AL playoff games and assigned prime time to the NYY. |
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Post by bearbryant on Sept 26, 2019 18:50:44 GMT -6
the hell it has
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Post by bearbryant on Sept 26, 2019 18:53:29 GMT -6
We'll never be more popular than the Yankees even if we're this good for 10 years. It's a little unrealistic to expect otherwise
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Without referring to OPS, WAR, etc, he is incapable of having an opinion.,
