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Post by unionstation82 on Oct 7, 2019 8:17:00 GMT -6
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2019 8:46:21 GMT -6
Looking at the rosters of all the other teams in the playoffs, it is evident that the one weakness on this team, is the lack iron clad reliable pen, and more specifically a stud closer. I say go with the hot hand, if there is a way AJ can discern that. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Oct 7, 2019 9:09:10 GMT -6
In my opinion, If Osuna had not been used in thbe 8th, his 9th inning problems may have been avoided. Articles like this at this time are uncalled for and can do nothing but create tension. I would stick with Osuna but have Harris ready. If Pressly were 100%, he would have been in there in the 8th instead of Osuna.
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Post by Saint on Oct 7, 2019 9:37:33 GMT -6
As I've always said, Osuna is a decent closer with great movement. But he's nothing special. He's fine for normal save situations just like Giles was but nothing more. He may not punch himself in the face, but he's got issues too.
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Post by blcoach8 on Oct 7, 2019 9:45:32 GMT -6
As I've always said, Osuna is a decent closer with great movement. But he's nothing special. He's fine for normal save situations just like Giles was but nothing more. He may not punch himself in the face, but he's got issues too. No, what you always say and say incorrectly is that he is a wife-beater even though he has never been married. You bashed the trade that brought him here and you have been whining about him ever since. If he went 50-50 in save opportunities, you would still be whining. Had you rather Rondon close? |
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Post by Saint on Oct 7, 2019 10:02:01 GMT -6
As I've always said, Osuna is a decent closer with great movement. But he's nothing special. He's fine for normal save situations just like Giles was but nothing more. He may not punch himself in the face, but he's got issues too. No, what you always say and say incorrectly is that he is a wife-beater even though he has never been married. You bashed the trade that brought him here and you have been whining about him ever since. If he went 50-50 in save opportunities, you would still be whining. Had you rather Rondon close? I'd rather not have a "closer". Him being a wife-beater is separate from him being a mediocre reliever. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Oct 7, 2019 12:42:23 GMT -6
As I've always said, Osuna is a decent closer with great movement. But he's nothing special. He's fine for normal save situations just like Giles was but nothing more. He may not punch himself in the face, but he's got issues too. No, what you always say and say incorrectly is that he is a wife-beater even though he has never been married. You bashed the trade that brought him here and you have been whining about him ever since. If he went 50-50 in save opportunities, you would still be whining. Had you rather Rondon close? Why would you think anybody would be whining if he went 50 for 50? |
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Post by unionstation82 on Oct 7, 2019 12:47:13 GMT -6
As I've always said, Osuna is a decent closer with great movement. But he's nothing special. He's fine for normal save situations just like Giles was but nothing more. He may not punch himself in the face, but he's got issues too. No, what you always say and say incorrectly is that he is a wife-beater even though he has never been married. You bashed the trade that brought him here and you have been whining about him ever since. If he went 50-50 in save opportunities, you would still be whining. Had you rather Rondon close? You’re always hung up on the wife beater thing. Is it better to beat your girlfriend? I don’t follow. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Oct 7, 2019 13:49:32 GMT -6
No, what you always say and say incorrectly is that he is a wife-beater even though he has never been married. You bashed the trade that brought him here and you have been whining about him ever since. If he went 50-50 in save opportunities, you would still be whining. Had you rather Rondon close? I'd rather not have a "closer". Him being a wife-beater is separate from him being a mediocre reliever. I see you are still stupid enough to refer to a man as a wife-beater in spite of the fact that he has never been married. This is one time you can't prove you are right, junior. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Oct 7, 2019 13:52:08 GMT -6
No, what you always say and say incorrectly is that he is a wife-beater even though he has never been married. You bashed the trade that brought him here and you have been whining about him ever since. If he went 50-50 in save opportunities, you would still be whining. Had you rather Rondon close? You’re always hung up on the wife beater thing. Is it better to beat your girlfriend? I don’t follow. There was NO evidence proving that he beat ANYONE. Charges all dropped......just another case of a tramp wanting to blackmail an athlete out of money by making charges she can't prove. Once it was evidence there was no evidence, the whole thing dropped. In any case, getting Osuna for Giles was a steal for Luhnow. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Oct 7, 2019 13:53:41 GMT -6
No, what you always say and say incorrectly is that he is a wife-beater even though he has never been married. You bashed the trade that brought him here and you have been whining about him ever since. If he went 50-50 in save opportunities, you would still be whining. Had you rather Rondon close? Why would you think anybody would be whining if he went 50 for 50? He keeps calling him a wife beater so if he goes 50-50, would he shut the hell up.......NO, because he won't admit he's wrong.......which is most of the time. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Oct 7, 2019 13:59:44 GMT -6
Why would you think anybody would be whining if he went 50 for 50? He keeps calling him a wife beater so if he goes 50-50, would he shut the hell up.......NO, because he won't admit he's wrong.......which is most of the time. I think we’d all get on him if he didn’t approve of that. |
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Post by Saint on Oct 7, 2019 14:03:28 GMT -6
Why would you think anybody would be whining if he went 50 for 50? He keeps calling him a wife beater so if he goes 50-50, would he shut the hell up.......NO, because he won't admit he's wrong.......which is most of the time. I called the wife beater a mediocre closer. What else do you want? He's not great but he's not bad. He could be replaced fairly easily if we didn't have other holes to worry about next offseason. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Oct 7, 2019 14:11:14 GMT -6
He keeps calling him a wife beater so if he goes 50-50, would he shut the hell up.......NO, because he won't admit he's wrong.......which is most of the time. I called the wife beater a mediocre closer. What else do you want? He's not great but he's not bad. He could be replaced fairly easily if we didn't have other holes to worry about next offseason. This "mediocre closer" led the AL in saves.........what do you want? There are no more Mariano Riveras |
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Post by Saint on Oct 7, 2019 14:12:27 GMT -6
I called the wife beater a mediocre closer. What else do you want? He's not great but he's not bad. He could be replaced fairly easily if we didn't have other holes to worry about next offseason. This "mediocre closer" led the AL in saves.........what do you want? There are no more Mariano Riveras Whaaaaat? The winningest team in baseball also had the closer with the most Saves? How the heck did that happen?  Well that proves it. He's the best. |
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Post by Saint on Oct 7, 2019 14:13:32 GMT -6
He set an Astros record for saves. He also led the league in saves this year. That's what you want a closer to do, isn't it? Giles was getting Saves in Save opportunities as well. Y'all didn't care about Saves as a statistic then... Let's show some consistency. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Oct 7, 2019 14:15:32 GMT -6
He set an Astros record for saves. He also led the league in saves this year. That's what you want a closer to do, isn't it? Giles was getting Saves in Save opportunities as well. Y'all didn't care about Saves as a statistic then... Let's show some consistency. I for one never cared about saves. Too many 3-run wins for that stat. |
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Post by Saint on Oct 7, 2019 14:17:58 GMT -6
Giles was getting Saves in Save opportunities as well. Y'all didn't care about Saves as a statistic then... Let's show some consistency. I for one never cared about saves. Too many 3-run wins for that stat. Exactly. They used Osuna all season the way they wouldn't use Giles. For straight up one inning normal Save situations. If they tried to Osuna for more/different than that, he would have sucked too just like in Game 2. Osuna himself blamed it on that as some kind of excuse. If we were going to be hard on Giles for not being effective in other non-Save situations, we can't then go and praise Osuna for only being used in normal situations. |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Oct 7, 2019 14:19:13 GMT -6
I don't care about saves, either, and think it's a stupid stat. However, that's what you expect a "closer" to do, and Osuna did it better than anyone this season. Some of us just won't admit to not liking him, regardless of success, because he punched his chick in the dickholder.
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Post by Saint on Oct 7, 2019 14:23:36 GMT -6
He was fine. He had a lot of Saves because he had a lot of opportunities. He had a good WHIP, but a 2.63 ERA is not exactly special for a reliever (especially one only mostly coming in with no inherited runners and a 2-3 run lead). There is a reason why Pressly and Harris were used in tougher situations. And let's nto forget that he was awful for two months of the season after the all-star break. That hardly screams awesome closer to me....that's a 3rd of the season.
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Post by unionstation82 on Oct 7, 2019 14:27:31 GMT -6
I for one never cared about saves. Too many 3-run wins for that stat. Exactly. They used Osuna all season the way they wouldn't use Giles. For straight up one inning normal Save situations. If they tried to Osuna for more/different than that, he would have sucked too just like in Game 2. Osuna himself blamed it on that as some kind of excuse. If we were going to be hard on Giles for not being effective in other non-Save situations, we can't then go and praise Osuna for only being used in normal situations. No, we got on Giles for his retard anger on himself on national TV and for cursing at Hinch, the one guy who had his back the whole time. |
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Post by Saint on Oct 7, 2019 14:29:59 GMT -6
Exactly. They used Osuna all season the way they wouldn't use Giles. For straight up one inning normal Save situations. If they tried to Osuna for more/different than that, he would have sucked too just like in Game 2. Osuna himself blamed it on that as some kind of excuse. If we were going to be hard on Giles for not being effective in other non-Save situations, we can't then go and praise Osuna for only being used in normal situations. No, we got on Giles for his retard anger on himself on national TV and for cursing at Hinch, the one guy who had his back the whole time. No people were complaining about him before that. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Oct 7, 2019 14:50:13 GMT -6
No, we got on Giles for his retard anger on himself on national TV and for cursing at Hinch, the one guy who had his back the whole time. No people were complaining about him before that. I was forced to support Giles because I backed the trade from the very beginning. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Oct 7, 2019 14:51:05 GMT -6
I don't care about saves, either, and think it's a stupid stat. However, that's what you expect a "closer" to do, and Osuna did it better than anyone this season. Some of us just won't admit to not liking him, regardless of success, because he punched his chick in the dickholder. Look at you, defending him like a messican. |
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Post by Saint on Oct 7, 2019 14:55:39 GMT -6
No people were complaining about him before that. I was forced to support Giles because I backed the trade from the very beginning. The trade was fine. Did we give up anybody that has gone on to do anything impressive? i think only Velasquez is even still playing and he's been a #5 starter at best. At least Giles gave us one good year, and then we turned around and traded him for another closer who, overall, has been pretty good (but he's not some elite closer that we couldn't replace or that is without fault outside of being a wife-beater). |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Oct 7, 2019 14:56:09 GMT -6
I don't care about saves, either, and think it's a stupid stat. However, that's what you expect a "closer" to do, and Osuna did it better than anyone this season. Some of us just won't admit to not liking him, regardless of success, because he punched his chick in the dickholder. Look at you, defending him like a messican. Well, I DO live in Mexico. |
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Post by bearbryant on Oct 7, 2019 15:10:25 GMT -6
I'm sure Hinch would like it if all his relievers could be used for multiple innings. Just like he'd like it if all his position players could field so he could rotate the DH In the same way giving Alvarez a mitt doesn't work, he needs to realize that Osuna is a creature of the 9th. It's just the way it is
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Post by unionstation82 on Oct 7, 2019 17:51:21 GMT -6
I'm sure Hinch would like it if all his relievers could be used for multiple innings. Just like he'd like it if all his position players could field so he could rotate the DH In the same way giving Alvarez a mitt doesn't work, he needs to realize that Osuna is a creature of the 9th. It's just the way it is
He’s also got to realize that if Greinke doesn’t have his command, it’s batting practice time. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Oct 7, 2019 17:52:55 GMT -6
I was forced to support Giles because I backed the trade from the very beginning. The trade was fine. Did we give up anybody that has gone on to do anything impressive? i think only Velasquez is even still playing and he's been a #5 starter at best. At least Giles gave us one good year, and then we turned around and traded him for another closer who, overall, has been pretty good (but he's not some elite closer that we couldn't replace or that is without fault outside of being a wife-beater). For all the talk of Strom being the Second Coming of the Lord, he track record for getting the best out of his closers has been mediocre. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Oct 7, 2019 18:31:45 GMT -6
The trade was fine. Did we give up anybody that has gone on to do anything impressive? i think only Velasquez is even still playing and he's been a #5 starter at best. At least Giles gave us one good year, and then we turned around and traded him for another closer who, overall, has been pretty good (but he's not some elite closer that we couldn't replace or that is without fault outside of being a wife-beater). For all the talk of Strom being the Second Coming of the Lord, he track record for getting the best out of his closers has been mediocre. Too many closers are head cases. |
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Well that proves it. He's the best.
